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Reply #180 posted 12/31/20 6:42am

JayCrawford

RODSERLING said:

JayCrawford said:



Nope, this is you CLEARLY going all over the place. I was saying this whole time that Thriller period was his biggest and most successful era period WORLDWIDE especially his album. Stop trying to twist things you liar.

You on the other hand made a claim that it was only his most successful era in the US market that's it. Remember this?

"Thiller was his biggest era/success for the US market. And that s about all"

So who's now trolling exactly? You're all over the place and you can't stay consistent.

You mentioning the Michael Jackson's 90s albums in terms of sales etc etc still doesn't change the fact that Thriller is still the biggest selling album, once again how many times do I have to keep repeating myself for you to understand this? It still doesn't change the fact that it was also his most successful period. 8 Grammy's, 8 AMAs, Hollywood walk of fame, best selling album, 2 of his best selling singles are from that album, Billie Jean and Beat It helped him to get heavy rotation on MTV, he earned his most accolades because of that album and era. Thriller is also in the Grammy hall of fame.

These are well documented. You can continue to try and rewrite history but they are here. There's more to successful periods than just sales for albums, award's, record breaking moments, selling singles. Thriller gave him all of this.

So as I stated previously you're clearly all over the place.

Regarding to Prince... I never mentioned about him and his work artistically and even if you want to go there... The 80s artistically was his best work, especially with the album's like Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT, Controversy, Parade. Unless you're going to say something dumb as usual and claim that "the 90s and 00s were his best work" which would basically tell me NOW you're trolling.

But I do recall saying Purple Rain was his most successful and biggest era of his career which is a fact. Won an Oscar, won Grammy's during the Purple Rain, number 1 album, number 1 film and number 1 single. I can continue if you want?

Purple Rain: 25 million copies worldwide

And now I only just found out you were ONLY 15 when Michael Jackson's Invincible was out in 2001. Makes sense why you're in self defense mode over Michaels 90s era.

Because you weren't alive throughout the 70s and 80s. You missed out on your idols peak which was the 80s. You also missed out on Prince and his prime which was from 80-89.

Still want to continue this shit? Because I'm getting tired of having to school you kids on this now?

Continue the emotional breakdown now. This conversation is over. Can't take 80s babies who missed out seriously.
[Edited 12/31/20 3:54am]
[Edited 12/31/20 4:02am]


Loooool
Thanks for the laugh.
I m also a Beatles and Sly Stone fan, do you think I missed their peak too ?
So I m just a moron who can't enjoy their music because I was 15 when Invincible came out? Wow
And did I mentioned Invincible was his best era or something? No. I said it was his worst.
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But I already mentioned I enjoyed mainly, now, the 70's over the 80's, and over the 90's.

You see, I wasn't born in the 70's neither...Just a matter of subjective taste.
Objectively,MJ's 90's are superior at all levels over the 80's, the 80's over the 70's, the 70's over the 2000's, and the 2000's over the 60's ( disputable!).
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But charts and sales are objective.
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In the Thriller era, MJ sold dozens of millions of discs ( albums, singles, video).
In the Bad era, MJ sold dozens of millions of discs
In the Dangerous era, MJ sold dozens of millions of discs.
History sold dozens millions of discs.
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I saw no changing until until Invincible came.
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You know what?
His TRUE best era, was the following months after he died in 2009 (!).
He was all over the place, was critically acclaimed again, sold 30 millions albums, 50 millions singles, had a worldwide #1 movie, sold 20 millions dvd...
Compared to that, Thriller was a flop

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Prince best era was in the 80's ok, but it didn't prevent him from releasing masterpieces after.
The Rainbow Children is better than many of its 80 album.
ATWIAD, Parade or even Dirty Mind are a bit overrated, compared to his best albums of the 90's.
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Objectively 90s Michael Jackson is superior than 80s Michael Jackson? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Ok buddy if you feel better by saying that since you missed out on Michaels prime years. Sure. But is not a fact though so sorry to burst your bubble there. You really need to learn how to use the word "objectively" sounds you just throw it out at this point.


"But charts and sales are objective"

Which is where his whole 80s career comes into play and tops everything he did after the 80s. Thriller and Bad his best selling albums. Most of his number 1 hits are from the 80s.

I never said anything about you claiming that Invincible was his best work but continue putting words into my mouth. You still missed out on The Beatle's and Sly Stone. I mean if you want to pretend to remember their heyday. Go ahead, you'd ONLY look silly. Tell me what it was like The Beatlemania in real time by being thereπŸ€”

The Rainbow Children is better than any 80s Prince album's? πŸ˜‚

90s Prince albums... Let's not go there now because we both know he was a complete joke then.

But yeah this is a sign of your emotional breakdown.
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