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PrintableI think mjs music was better than most in the 90s even if it wasn’t another thriller or bad. It’s just that in the 80s there were more artist to choose from to admire | |
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What difference does it make when one becomes a fan? The music doesn't go away. Having been around for Bad, Dangerous and HIStory I don't see an advantage other than living through it and not having to read up on it. All of those eras were equally massive and the music great. He just evolved. Either you're in for the ride or you aren't. You choose to be stuck in the the past. Because you're old and can't get with the time. | |
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What difference does it make when one becomes a fan? The music doesn't go away. Having been around for Bad, Dangerous and HIStory I don't see an advantage other than living through it and not having to read up on it. All of those eras were equally massive and the music great. He just evolved. Either you're in for the ride or you aren't. You choose to be stuck in the the past. Because you're old and can't get with the time. Why does it matter? Because anyone that actually lived it knows that Michaels prime were the 70s-80s. Especially during Thriller from 82-84 that was Michael at his absolute best. You grew up during a time when Michael was becoming the media's plaything so of course you'd say something like that lol. All of those era's were equally massive? Oh ok... So Dangerous was just as big as Thriller then? I mean considering what Thriller did for music and MTV and Michael's career... I'm sure you know the answer to this. These young kids man. HIStory era... Let's not get into that era 🤣 I mean I'd rather stay in the past musically because music of the 60s-80s were the golden ages and I lived it. I'm ready for the old insults. | |
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Well I remember some of bad and dangerous eras and his singles/videos were popular enough to be performed at events, so glad I have memories of that, as it played a role in making me into a fan | |
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Wow. You're such a tool. And not a sharp one, but, well, you're old and think that's a claim to fame. So that's to be expected. [Edited 12/28/20 22:33pm] | |
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Seriously, at this point I'm beginning to wonder whether you are a few fries short of a happy meal. Did too much drugs back in the day? Something is seriously wrong with you. Who cares about the media chatter?? What does that have to do with the merit of his music? None. Nothing. Nada. All that counts is the music, which is still around. Regardless of age. And the fact that apparently you were around when Dinosaurs roamed the earth, doesn't make you an authority on Michael Jackson. It just makes you a pathetic laughing stock, thinking your age gives you some points. Well, it doesn't. And yes, all those eras where massive. Bad in some territories was bigger than Thriller (actually he became a bigger international star with Bad, Dangerous and HIStory). And Dangerous wasn't far behind, as was HIStory. But whatever. Keep living in the past. Your opinion luckily don't mean shit.alphastreet said: Well I remember some of bad and dangerous eras and his singles/videos were popular enough to be performed at events, so glad I have memories of that, as it played a role in making me into a fan Favourite Michael video? | |
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Wow. You're such a tool. And not a sharp one, but, well, you're old and think that's a claim to fame. So that's to be expected. [Edited 12/28/20 22:33pm] Just as I expected. Boring drug and ageist insult's. Nope Thriller is still his biggest era. Best selling album, won most awards then, Thriller is his best selling single, Billie Jean and Beat It helped him to finally have his music videos being played, Hollywood walk of fame then, Motown 25. I can go on if you want? Nope sorry Thriller was and always will be his biggest era... Something tells me you're another Michael fan who tries their best to discredit what Thriller did for him. Have a good one  | |
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JayCrawford said: alphastreet said: Well I remember some of bad and dangerous eras and his singles/videos were popular enough to be performed at events, so glad I have memories of that, as it played a role in making me into a fan
Favourite Michael video? Most of them, hard to choose one from whichever decade. But I remember in the 90s, Mjs videos were popular and always highly anticipated. Sure thriller started that, but he continued to have high sales and success even if not at thrillers level. He was still considered a popular artist regardless of what critics say [Edited 12/29/20 15:47pm] | |
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JayCrawford said: PatrickS77 said:
Wow. You're such a tool. And not a sharp one, but, well, you're old and think that's a claim to fame. So that's to be expected. [Edited 12/28/20 22:33pm] Just as I expected. Boring drug and ageist insult's. Nope Thriller is still his biggest era. Best selling album, won most awards then, Thriller is his best selling single, Billie Jean and Beat It helped him to finally have his music videos being played, Hollywood walk of fame then, Motown 25. I can go on if you want? Nope sorry Thriller was and always will be his biggest era... Something tells me you're another Michael fan who tries their best to discredit what Thriller did for him. Have a good one So Purple Rain was Prince best era? Everything that comes after was crap, since it sold at the best 4 times less? In many countries, including the UK, Bad sales excessed those of Thriller. . Then, in many countries, especially in Asia, Dangerous sales excessed those of Thriller. . If we re talking in term of value, since History was a double album, it sold more discs in many countries than for Thriller. . In many big markets, including the Uk and Germany, Earth Song and TDCAU were his best selling singles ever. . So you see, your notion of " Success" And "best era" Is complete BS. Thriller was his biggest era/success for the US market. And that s about all. . P.S. : Thriller was never his best selling single, at the time. Now that there is download and streaming, it s one of his more popular song. . His most popular song on YouTube is in fact They Don't Care About Us, released in 1996 and that was banned in the US. I let you imagine its success if it wasn't. . But at the time of physical singles, Thriller sold less than many of 90's singles from MJ, even if generzl sales of singles went downhill in the 90's. Thriller peaked " only" At #9 in Germany, and #10 in the UK. [Edited 12/29/20 16:36pm] |
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RODSERLING said: JayCrawford said: Just as I expected. Boring drug and ageist insult's. Nope Thriller is still his biggest era. Best selling album, won most awards then, Thriller is his best selling single, Billie Jean and Beat It helped him to finally have his music videos being played, Hollywood walk of fame then, Motown 25. I can go on if you want? Nope sorry Thriller was and always will be his biggest era... Something tells me you're another Michael fan who tries their best to discredit what Thriller did for him. Have a good one So Purple Rain was Prince best era? Everything that comes after was crap, since it sold at the best 4 times less? In many countries, including the UK, Bad sales excessed those of Thriller. . Then, in many countries, especially in Asia, Dangerous sales excessed those of Thriller. . If we re talking in term of value, since History was a double album, it sold more discs in many countries than for Thriller. . In many big markets, including the Uk and Germany, Earth Song and TDCAU were his best selling singles ever. . So you see, your notion of " Success" And "best era" Is complete BS. Thriller was his biggest era/success for the US market. And that s about all. . P.S. : Thriller was never his best selling single, at the time. Now that there is download and streaming, it s one of his more popular song. . His most popular song on YouTube is in fact They Don't Care About Us, released in 1996 and that was banned in the US. I let you imagine its success if it wasn't. . But at the time of physical singles, Thriller sold less than many of 90's singles from MJ, even if generzl sales of singles went downhill in the 90's. Thriller peaked " only" At #9 in Germany, and #10 in the UK. [Edited 12/29/20 16:36pm] I never said that about Prince. Thriller in terms of Michael Jackson's biggest and most successful period was indeed Thriller. How hard is that for you to understand this? The biggest selling album of all time which is a fact, 8 Grammy's which is a fact, 8 AMAs which is a fact, his best selling singles are from that album which is a fact, he earned a Hollywood walk of fame which is a fact, Billie Jean finally helped his ass to get on MTV with heavy rotation which is a fact. Wasn't Princes most successful era Purple Rain? Yes or no? I'll wait for that answer. Yet again the BIGGEST selling album of all time so you making that bullshit up that it was only successful in the US market is wrong and is clearly obvious you weren't even alive then. If that's the case then why is it the biggest selling album of all time WORLDWIDE lol? What a load of crap you millennial Michael fans make up. Most of Michael Jackson's accolades are from his glory days which were the 80s, number 1's the 80s. Your argument about Thriller sales in the 90s is weak because Thriller came out in 82... Dangerous was a brand new album. Continue trying to discredit Thriller and act like his biggest success was from Dangerous... An album Nirvana almost outsold. | |
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Someone still sounds upset because they couldn't back up their claim on a previous thread regarding Janet's untalented ass. Get off my ass now kid | |
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alphastreet said: JayCrawford said: Favourite Michael video? Most of them, hard to choose one from whichever decade. But I remember in the 90s, Mjs videos were popular and always highly anticipated. Sure thriller started that, but he continued to have high sales and success even if not at thrillers level. He was still considered a popular artist regardless of what critics say [Edited 12/29/20 15:47pm] I remember how big of a deal scream was though | |
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JayCrawford said: alphastreet said: Most of them, hard to choose one from whichever decade. But I remember in the 90s, Mjs videos were popular and always highly anticipated. Sure thriller started that, but he continued to have high sales and success even if not at thrillers level. He was still considered a popular artist regardless of what critics say [Edited 12/29/20 15:47pm] I remember how big of a deal scream was though I remember that too, I instantly loved it and it during that time I came to appreciate mj more for his artistry | |
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alphastreet said: JayCrawford said: I remember how big of a deal scream was though I remember that too, I instantly loved it and it during that time I came to appreciate mj more for his artistry Isn't it his most expensive video? | |
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JayCrawford said: alphastreet said: I remember that too, I instantly loved it and it during that time I came to appreciate mj more for his artistry Isn't it his most expensive video? Yep, $7 million at the time though the director also denies this | |
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JayCrawford said: RODSERLING said: So Purple Rain was Prince best era? Everything that comes after was crap, since it sold at the best 4 times less? In many countries, including the UK, Bad sales excessed those of Thriller. . Then, in many countries, especially in Asia, Dangerous sales excessed those of Thriller. . If we re talking in term of value, since History was a double album, it sold more discs in many countries than for Thriller. . In many big markets, including the Uk and Germany, Earth Song and TDCAU were his best selling singles ever. . So you see, your notion of " Success" And "best era" Is complete BS. Thriller was his biggest era/success for the US market. And that s about all. . P.S. : Thriller was never his best selling single, at the time. Now that there is download and streaming, it s one of his more popular song. . His most popular song on YouTube is in fact They Don't Care About Us, released in 1996 and that was banned in the US. I let you imagine its success if it wasn't. . But at the time of physical singles, Thriller sold less than many of 90's singles from MJ, even if generzl sales of singles went downhill in the 90's. Thriller peaked " only" At #9 in Germany, and #10 in the UK. [Edited 12/29/20 16:36pm] I never said that about Prince. Thriller in terms of Michael Jackson's biggest and most successful period was indeed Thriller. How hard is that for you to understand this? The biggest selling album of all time which is a fact, 8 Grammy's which is a fact, 8 AMAs which is a fact, his best selling singles are from that album which is a fact, he earned a Hollywood walk of fame which is a fact, Billie Jean finally helped his ass to get on MTV with heavy rotation which is a fact. Wasn't Princes most successful era Purple Rain? Yes or no? I'll wait for that answer. Yet again the BIGGEST selling album of all time so you making that bullshit up that it was only successful in the US market is wrong and is clearly obvious you weren't even alive then. If that's the case then why is it the biggest selling album of all time WORLDWIDE lol? What a load of crap you millennial Michael fans make up. Most of Michael Jackson's accolades are from his glory days which were the 80s, number 1's the 80s. Your argument about Thriller sales in the 90s is weak because Thriller came out in 82... Dangerous was a brand new album. Continue trying to discredit Thriller and act like his biggest success was from Dangerous... An album Nirvana almost outsold. I m not discrediting Thriller. You are discrediting MJ s carreer after Thriller. . Moreover, I never talked about Thriller sales in the 90's. You re out of your mind. In fact you don't know what you re talking About at all. . As most americans, you got stuck in the Thriller era. But MJ was bigger outside the US after Thriller. . As I pointed out, Bad, Dangerous and History sold better in many markets than Thriller. . In terms of singles, in Eurocharts, Thriller only had 3 top ten. Bad had 8, Dangerous 7, History/BOTDF 7. . In the 90's, MJ was most successfull than in the 70's. Everybody knows that. MJ's most succesful era worldwide was 1983/ 1997, where his sales were always huge. . Again, you re showing your ignorance and your americano-centrism, by comparing sales from Nevermind and Dangerous. As you said it, not only that Dangerous outsold Nevermind, but it sold more singles, more videos... But only one quarter of the Dangerous sales came from USA, while half of the sales from Nevermind came from the USA. In fact Dangerous sold exactly what Nevermind sold worldwide... But outside the US alone . Nevermind has good catalogue sales because, well, they only have 3 albums, and the first was released confidentially. Whereas MJ has 5 albums that sold more than 20 millionsmillions, including 3 afafter Thriller. . [Edited 12/30/20 7:00am] [Edited 12/30/20 7:01am] [Edited 12/30/20 7:02am] |
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RODSERLING said: JayCrawford said: I never said that about Prince. Thriller in terms of Michael Jackson's biggest and most successful period was indeed Thriller. How hard is that for you to understand this? The biggest selling album of all time which is a fact, 8 Grammy's which is a fact, 8 AMAs which is a fact, his best selling singles are from that album which is a fact, he earned a Hollywood walk of fame which is a fact, Billie Jean finally helped his ass to get on MTV with heavy rotation which is a fact. Wasn't Princes most successful era Purple Rain? Yes or no? I'll wait for that answer. Yet again the BIGGEST selling album of all time so you making that bullshit up that it was only successful in the US market is wrong and is clearly obvious you weren't even alive then. If that's the case then why is it the biggest selling album of all time WORLDWIDE lol? What a load of crap you millennial Michael fans make up. Most of Michael Jackson's accolades are from his glory days which were the 80s, number 1's the 80s. Your argument about Thriller sales in the 90s is weak because Thriller came out in 82... Dangerous was a brand new album. Continue trying to discredit Thriller and act like his biggest success was from Dangerous... An album Nirvana almost outsold. I m not discrediting Thriller. You are discrediting MJ s carreer after Thriller. . Moreover, I never talked about Thriller sales in the 90's. You re out of your mind. In fact you don't know what you re talking About at all. . As most americans, you got stuck in the Thriller era. But MJ was bigger outside the US after Thriller. . As I pointed out, Bad, Dangerous and History sold better in many markets than Thriller. . In terms of singles, in Eurocharts, Thriller only had 3 top ten. Bad had 8, Dangerous 7, History/BOTDF 7. . In the 90's, MJ was most successfull than in the 70's. Everybody knows that. MJ's most succesful era worldwide was 1983/ 1997, where his sales were always huge. . Again, you re showing your ignorance and your americano-centrism, by comparing sales from Nevermind and Dangerous. As you said it, not only that Dangerous outsold Nevermind, but it sold more singles, more videos... But only one quarter of the Dangerous sales came from USA, while half of the sales from Nevermind came from the USA. In fact Dangerous sold exactly what Nevermind sold worldwide... But outside the US alone . Nevermind has good catalogue sales because, well, they only have 3 albums, and the first was released confidentially. Whereas MJ has 5 albums that sold more than 20 millionsmillions, including 3 afafter Thriller. . [Edited 12/30/20 7:00am] [Edited 12/30/20 7:01am] [Edited 12/30/20 7:02am]  Thank you for pointing out these facts. The media and public want to downplay how successful Michael was AFTER Thriller. The man was still selling out concerts, selling millions and millions of albums and STILL popular and influential despite the fake allegations and media conspiracies to destroy him. I seriously don’t know anyone in history who went through what MJ did and still maintained his popularity, success and influence. Most artists would have been completely destroyed. Let’s not forget that this man SOLD OUT 50 concerts in ONE CITY, without a new album or project. It was reported that he could have sold out even more. The bottomline is that he SOLD OUT those concerts in ONE CITY with the power of his name only. Mind boggling! This just shows that Michael was STILL popular and could still SELL, even after Thriller. | |
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RODSERLING said: JayCrawford said: I never said that about Prince. Thriller in terms of Michael Jackson's biggest and most successful period was indeed Thriller. How hard is that for you to understand this? The biggest selling album of all time which is a fact, 8 Grammy's which is a fact, 8 AMAs which is a fact, his best selling singles are from that album which is a fact, he earned a Hollywood walk of fame which is a fact, Billie Jean finally helped his ass to get on MTV with heavy rotation which is a fact. Wasn't Princes most successful era Purple Rain? Yes or no? I'll wait for that answer. Yet again the BIGGEST selling album of all time so you making that bullshit up that it was only successful in the US market is wrong and is clearly obvious you weren't even alive then. If that's the case then why is it the biggest selling album of all time WORLDWIDE lol? What a load of crap you millennial Michael fans make up. Most of Michael Jackson's accolades are from his glory days which were the 80s, number 1's the 80s. Your argument about Thriller sales in the 90s is weak because Thriller came out in 82... Dangerous was a brand new album. Continue trying to discredit Thriller and act like his biggest success was from Dangerous... An album Nirvana almost outsold. I m not discrediting Thriller. You are discrediting MJ s carreer after Thriller. . Moreover, I never talked about Thriller sales in the 90's. You re out of your mind. In fact you don't know what you re talking About at all. . As most americans, you got stuck in the Thriller era. But MJ was bigger outside the US after Thriller. . As I pointed out, Bad, Dangerous and History sold better in many markets than Thriller. . In terms of singles, in Eurocharts, Thriller only had 3 top ten. Bad had 8, Dangerous 7, History/BOTDF 7. . In the 90's, MJ was most successfull than in the 70's. Everybody knows that. MJ's most succesful era worldwide was 1983/ 1997, where his sales were always huge. . Again, you re showing your ignorance and your americano-centrism, by comparing sales from Nevermind and Dangerous. As you said it, not only that Dangerous outsold Nevermind, but it sold more singles, more videos... But only one quarter of the Dangerous sales came from USA, while half of the sales from Nevermind came from the USA. In fact Dangerous sold exactly what Nevermind sold worldwide... But outside the US alone . Nevermind has good catalogue sales because, well, they only have 3 albums, and the first was released confidentially. Whereas MJ has 5 albums that sold more than 20 millionsmillions, including 3 afafter Thriller. . [Edited 12/30/20 7:00am] [Edited 12/30/20 7:01am] [Edited 12/30/20 7:02am] Is clearly obvious you are trying to discredit Thriller young boy. But I understand since you didn't live it. Ah so you basically admitted that Michael in 1983 was also huge WORLDWIDE in 1983 but previously you said "Thriller was his biggest era/success for the US market. And that s about all" When in we fact we both know that is bullshit? You're all over the place. Try and make sense. Your Euro charts proves my point... Bad 80s album had more number 1's than any 90s Michael Jackson album. So once again the 80s was Michaels heyday. "As I pointed out, Bad, Dangerous and History sold better in many markets than Thriller" So where did this whole "biggest selling album of all time" notion come from then? Did everyone just pull it out of their ass and made it up? Worldwide Thriller is still the biggest selling album period. Try and understand this shit. Once again it was his most successful era PERIOD. 8 Grammy's, best selling album, best selling singles, 8 AMAs, Hollywood walk of fame, Motown 25, Billie Jean heavy rotation MTV etc etc. These young kids who weren't even alive when Michael Jackson was at his peak will do anything to wipe out what Thriller did for music 🤣 Continue the breakdown. I'm loving it | |
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Thank you. Not surprising the douche is too thick to get it through his skull. Nevermind the facts. It's about time to ignore the troll. | |
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Someone is still upset because they couldn't counter any of my arguments. Get off my ass now kid. Is getting annoying. | |
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What arguments? All you bring is bullshit and think you have to win due to seniority. You're pathetic and not worth my time. | |
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It s completely typical of americans. If an album or a movie "flops" Or underperforms in their country, then for them it s a global flop. They don't understand what "worldwide" Means. . The same way, when something is sucessful in their country, they assume it s the same everywhere ( As americans are persuaded that 1999 was a great success outside the USA). . The fact is that none other solo artist sold 25 millions copies of an album outside the USA, like MJ did with BAD and Dangerous. BAD is the #2 world best selling album ever for a solo artist. Dangerous is #3. . MJ is only competiting with himself. But that s a flop for some people... . MJ is the only artist to have sold more than 10 millions singles from 4 albums, including Dangerous and History. . So his beat era was constany between 1983 and 1997, because no one could match his sales. |
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What arguments? All you bring is bullshit and think you have to win due to seniority. You're pathetic and not worth my time. So me stating facts about Thriller is all "bullshit" according to you? You kids do not have thick skin these days when people state the obvious facts. What bunch of soft skinned fucks seriously. Go back to crying you sad kid. What a joke. | |
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RODSERLING said: It s completely typical of americans. If an album or a movie "flops" Or underperforms in their country, then for them it s a global flop. They don't understand what "worldwide" Means. . The same way, when something is sucessful in their country, they assume it s the same everywhere ( As americans are persuaded that 1999 was a great success outside the USA). . The fact is that none other solo artist sold 25 millions copies of an album outside the USA, like MJ did with BAD and Dangerous. BAD is the #2 world best selling album ever for a solo artist. Dangerous is #3. . MJ is only competiting with himself. But that s a flop for some people... . MJ is the only artist to have sold more than 10 millions singles from 4 albums, including Dangerous and History. . So his beat era was constany between 1983 and 1997, because no one could match his sales. So you basically admitted 83 was his best era yet previously you were having a piss and claiming that Thriller era was only successful in the US market? Make up your fucking mind. Also Princes biggest and most successful era was Purple Rain. Again name another era that was just as big as Purple Rain? | |
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JayCrawford said: RODSERLING said: It s completely typical of americans. If an album or a movie "flops" Or underperforms in their country, then for them it s a global flop. They don't understand what "worldwide" Means. . The same way, when something is sucessful in their country, they assume it s the same everywhere ( As americans are persuaded that 1999 was a great success outside the USA). . The fact is that none other solo artist sold 25 millions copies of an album outside the USA, like MJ did with BAD and Dangerous. BAD is the #2 world best selling album ever for a solo artist. Dangerous is #3. . MJ is only competiting with himself. But that s a flop for some people... . MJ is the only artist to have sold more than 10 millions singles from 4 albums, including Dangerous and History. . So his beat era was constany between 1983 and 1997, because no one could match his sales. So you basically admitted 83 was his best era yet previously you were having a piss and claiming that Thriller era was only successful in the US market? Make up your fucking mind. Also Princes biggest and most successful era was Purple Rain. Again name another era that was just as big as Purple Rain? No, I stated clearly MJ's biggest era was 1983/1997.During this era, no one could match his sales, especially outside the USA. . Of course Purple Rain was Prince biggest success, but not his best era artistically. . Then, again, in many countries Purple Rain wasn't his best selling album. Batman and D&P made better numbers in some markets. . Your point is only to dismiss MJ s album after Thriller, when you are accusing others to dismiss Thriller, when they aRe not at all. . In fact, what albums did better numbers (albums, singles, VHS, concert tickets) than Dangerous and History in the 90's? Good luck. Now yhis is the end of your trolling. |
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RODSERLING said: JayCrawford said: So you basically admitted 83 was his best era yet previously you were having a piss and claiming that Thriller era was only successful in the US market? Make up your fucking mind. Also Princes biggest and most successful era was Purple Rain. Again name another era that was just as big as Purple Rain? No, I stated clearly MJ's biggest era was 1983/1997.During this era, no one could match his sales, especially outside the USA. . Of course Purple Rain was Prince biggest success, but not his best era artistically. . Then, again, in many countries Purple Rain wasn't his best selling album. Batman and D&P made better numbers in some markets. . Your point is only to dismiss MJ s album after Thriller, when you are accusing others to dismiss Thriller, when they aRe not at all. . In fact, what albums did better numbers (albums, singles, VHS, concert tickets) than Dangerous and History in the 90's? Good luck. Now yhis is the end of your trolling. Nope, this is you CLEARLY going all over the place. I was saying this whole time that Thriller period was his biggest and most successful era period WORLDWIDE especially his album. Stop trying to twist things you liar. You on the other hand made a claim that it was only his most successful era in the US market that's it. Remember this? "Thiller was his biggest era/success for the US market. And that s about all" So who's now trolling exactly? You're all over the place and you can't stay consistent. You mentioning the Michael Jackson's 90s albums in terms of sales etc etc still doesn't change the fact that Thriller is still the biggest selling album, once again how many times do I have to keep repeating myself for you to understand this? It still doesn't change the fact that it was also his most successful period. 8 Grammy's, 8 AMAs, Hollywood walk of fame, best selling album, 2 of his best selling singles are from that album, Billie Jean and Beat It helped him to get heavy rotation on MTV, he earned his most accolades because of that album and era. Thriller is also in the Grammy hall of fame. These are well documented. You can continue to try and rewrite history but they are here. There's more to successful periods than just sales for albums, award's, record breaking moments, selling singles. Thriller gave him all of this. So as I stated previously you're clearly all over the place. Regarding to Prince... I never mentioned about him and his work artistically and even if you want to go there... The 80s artistically was his best work, especially with the album's like Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT, Controversy, Parade. Unless you're going to say something dumb as usual and claim that "the 90s and 00s were his best work" which would basically tell me NOW you're trolling. But I do recall saying Purple Rain was his most successful and biggest era of his career which is a fact. Won an Oscar, won Grammy's during the Purple Rain, number 1 album, number 1 film and number 1 single. I can continue if you want? Purple Rain: 25 million copies worldwide And now I only just found out you were ONLY 15 when Michael Jackson's Invincible was out in 2001. Makes sense why you're in self defense mode over Michaels 90s era. Because you weren't alive throughout the 70s and 80s. You missed out on your idols peak which was the 80s. You also missed out on Prince and his prime which was from 80-89. Still want to continue this shit? Because I'm getting tired of having to school you kids on this now? Continue the emotional breakdown now. This conversation is over. Can't take 80s babies who missed out seriously. [Edited 12/31/20 3:54am] [Edited 12/31/20 4:02am] | |
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Invincible destroys Rave and would have been a hit if not for Sony problems and the album being too bloated. There's a great 10 song album there. | |
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JayCrawford said: RODSERLING said: No, I stated clearly MJ's biggest era was 1983/1997.During this era, no one could match his sales, especially outside the USA. . Of course Purple Rain was Prince biggest success, but not his best era artistically. . Then, again, in many countries Purple Rain wasn't his best selling album. Batman and D&P made better numbers in some markets. . Your point is only to dismiss MJ s album after Thriller, when you are accusing others to dismiss Thriller, when they aRe not at all. . In fact, what albums did better numbers (albums, singles, VHS, concert tickets) than Dangerous and History in the 90's? Good luck. Now yhis is the end of your trolling. Nope, this is you CLEARLY going all over the place. I was saying this whole time that Thriller period was his biggest and most successful era period WORLDWIDE especially his album. Stop trying to twist things you liar. You on the other hand made a claim that it was only his most successful era in the US market that's it. Remember this? "Thiller was his biggest era/success for the US market. And that s about all" So who's now trolling exactly? You're all over the place and you can't stay consistent. You mentioning the Michael Jackson's 90s albums in terms of sales etc etc still doesn't change the fact that Thriller is still the biggest selling album, once again how many times do I have to keep repeating myself for you to understand this? It still doesn't change the fact that it was also his most successful period. 8 Grammy's, 8 AMAs, Hollywood walk of fame, best selling album, 2 of his best selling singles are from that album, Billie Jean and Beat It helped him to get heavy rotation on MTV, he earned his most accolades because of that album and era. Thriller is also in the Grammy hall of fame. These are well documented. You can continue to try and rewrite history but they are here. There's more to successful periods than just sales for albums, award's, record breaking moments, selling singles. Thriller gave him all of this. So as I stated previously you're clearly all over the place. Regarding to Prince... I never mentioned about him and his work artistically and even if you want to go there... The 80s artistically was his best work, especially with the album's like Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT, Controversy, Parade. Unless you're going to say something dumb as usual and claim that "the 90s and 00s were his best work" which would basically tell me NOW you're trolling. But I do recall saying Purple Rain was his most successful and biggest era of his career which is a fact. Won an Oscar, won Grammy's during the Purple Rain, number 1 album, number 1 film and number 1 single. I can continue if you want? Purple Rain: 25 million copies worldwide And now I only just found out you were ONLY 15 when Michael Jackson's Invincible was out in 2001. Makes sense why you're in self defense mode over Michaels 90s era. Because you weren't alive throughout the 70s and 80s. You missed out on your idols peak which was the 80s. You also missed out on Prince and his prime which was from 80-89. Still want to continue this shit? Because I'm getting tired of having to school you kids on this now? Continue the emotional breakdown now. This conversation is over. Can't take 80s babies who missed out seriously. [Edited 12/31/20 3:54am] [Edited 12/31/20 4:02am] Loooool Thanks for the laugh. I m also a Beatles and Sly Stone fan, do you think I missed their peak too ? So I m just a moron who can't enjoy their music because I was 15 when Invincible came out? Wow And did I mentioned Invincible was his best era or something? No. I said it was his worst. . But I already mentioned I enjoyed mainly, now, the 70's over the 80's, and over the 90's. You see, I wasn't born in the 70's neither...Just a matter of subjective taste. Objectively,MJ's 90's are superior at all levels over the 80's, the 80's over the 70's, the 70's over the 2000's, and the 2000's over the 60's ( disputable!). . But charts and sales are objective. . In the Thriller era, MJ sold dozens of millions of discs ( albums, singles, video). In the Bad era, MJ sold dozens of millions of discs In the Dangerous era, MJ sold dozens of millions of discs. History sold dozens millions of discs. . I saw no changing until until Invincible came. . You know what? His TRUE best era, was the following months after he died in 2009 (!). He was all over the place, was critically acclaimed again, sold 30 millions albums, 50 millions singles, had a worldwide #1 movie, sold 20 millions dvd... Compared to that, Thriller was a flop 
Prince best era was in the 80's ok, but it didn't prevent him from releasing masterpieces after. The Rainbow Children is better than many of its 80 album. ATWIAD, Parade or even Dirty Mind are a bit overrated, compared to his best albums of the 90's. [Edited 12/31/20 6:24am] |
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