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Secret Michael Jackson tapes. The guy was a freak.

He wanted to die young, he hated black women, used fame to be loved, sick dude:

https://www.youtube.com/w...YC87HPNWA0

He was troubled.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 12/28/20 3:17pm

alphastreet

He had issues but I feel sorry for him. His dad really put him through a lot and it makes sense why he seeked validation from fans or whoever. I used to fall for it cause I cared a lot about him when alive, but now I wish he had better people around that had his best interests. And though I still love him, I’m not as emotionally attached as before though I still get excited over his music and fun memories of enjoying him
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Reply #2 posted 12/28/20 4:13pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

He wanted to die young, he hated black women, used fame to be loved, sick dude:

https://www.youtube.com/w...YC87HPNWA0

He was troubled.


And so are you. What's the point of dragging up 20 year old recordings, which aren't really secret and are out since a number of years? All just to shit on him?? Do you feel better now?? It's judgmental, hateful asswipes like you, who are the real sick freaks. There are plenty of artists I don't give a shit about, but never would I open a thread about them just to shit on them.

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Reply #3 posted 12/28/20 4:24pm

alphastreet

PatrickS77 said:



2freaky4church1 said:


He wanted to die young, he hated black women, used fame to be loved, sick dude:



https://www.youtube.com/w...YC87HPNWA0



He was troubled.





And so are you. What's the point of dragging up 20 year old recordings, which aren't really secret and are out since a number of years? All just to shit on him?? Do you feel better now?? It's judgmental, hateful asswipes like you, who are the real sick freaks. There are plenty of artists I don't give a shit about, but never would I open a thread about them just to shit on them.



Feeling the same, I can never hate on Michael for his feelings, I still have compassion for him
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Reply #4 posted 12/28/20 6:11pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

He wanted to die young, he hated black women, used fame to be loved, sick dude:



https://www.youtube.com/w...YC87HPNWA0



He was troubled.



Seriously, is something wrong with YOU? I listened to this audio/video and there is nothing “freaky” about MJ. He was pouring out his soul. He was being honest about his life. I didn’t hear him say he hated black women. Where the fuck did that come from? Your sick mind? Just because MJ was different, doesn’t make him a freak. It’s people like you who are most likely a “freak” and want to project YOUR sickness on other people.

Hypocritical people like you make me want to vomit.
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Reply #5 posted 12/28/20 6:11pm

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Unless I missed something, I didn't see or hear anything from Michael about hating black women, and I think that if he hated black women, then that would have included his mother and sisters too, but I didn't hear him say anything like that....am I wrong? Also, the man is dead and long gone, what does any of this matter now? Michael had a troubled life, starting from childhood, and it messed with him emotionally, just like the rest of us. There''s not a person I know that life hasn't affected in one way or another, and Michael was no different in that aspect. At least some of us had normal childhoods, where we got to be the kids we were meant to be, Michael didn't have that. Imagine how you would feel or turn out if you lived the life he did. Yeah, he had riches and fame, but look at the price he paid for it. The guy's life was a living hell, and he really suffered a lot. Michael was a tortured soul until the day he died. So unless you walked in his shoes, don't judge him, because it's easy for us to call him a freak, and gossip about him, because that's what people do to other human beings, although we shouldn't, because we haven't lived his life, nor have we experienced the things he did, that made him who he was. What good is it to dredge up the guy's past life, and talk about him, when he's dead and gone?

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Reply #6 posted 12/28/20 6:16pm

alphastreet

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Unless I missed something, I didn't see or hear anything from Michael about hating black women, and I think that if he hated black women, then that would have included his mother and sisters too, but I didn't hear him say anything like that....am I wrong? Also, the man is dead and long gone, what does any of this matter now? Michael had a troubled life, starting from childhood, and it messed with him emotionally, just like the rest of us. There''s not a person I know that life hasn't affected in one way or another, and Michael was no different in that aspect. At least some of us had normal childhoods, where we got to be the kids we were meant to be, Michael didn't have that. Imagine how you would feel or turn out if you lived the life he did. Yeah, he had riches and fame, but look at the price he paid for it. The guy's life was a living hell, and he really suffered a lot. Michael was a tortured soul until the day he died. So unless you walked in his shoes, don't judge him, because it's easy for us to call him a freak, and gossip about him, because that's what people do to other human beings, although we shouldn't, because we haven't lived his life, nor have we experienced the things he did, that made him who he was. What good is it to dredge up the guy's past life, and talk about him, when he's dead and gone?



Well said
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Reply #7 posted 12/28/20 6:18pm

looby

^^Thanks @alphastreet.

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Reply #8 posted 12/28/20 7:51pm

alphastreet

looby said:

^^Thanks @alphastreet.



Anytime! Having an mj marathon as we speak!
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Reply #9 posted 12/28/20 8:15pm

jfenster

Here's my ...take....he should've never been alone with children just so no one can say anything wrong
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Reply #10 posted 12/28/20 8:54pm

alphastreet

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Here's my ...take....he should've never been alone with children just so no one can say anything wrong


I guess he was desperate for friends who didn’t treat him like a celebrity
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Reply #11 posted 12/28/20 10:23pm

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Well this was enlightening. Mysteries have been solved and questions answered.
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Reply #12 posted 12/28/20 10:25pm

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jfenster said:

Here's my ...take....he should've never been alone with children just so no one can say anything wrong


Yeah. That would have been the logical thing. But since he had nothing to hide, why should he?

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Reply #13 posted 12/29/20 2:33am

ReddBlitz

Ok, what's the point of all this? Really? Does it matter? Gee, the man is dead. Who cares? Just let the man RIP.
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Reply #14 posted 12/29/20 3:20am

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You're seriously troubled yourself to have had this unreasonably personal vendetta against MJ for all these years.
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Reply #15 posted 12/29/20 4:17am

RJOrion

WTF is your problem with Michael in regards to this video?...your hate should be directed at Joseph Jackson, a man who obviously couldnt deal with the pressures of having a wife and nine children (and alledegly others outside of the immediate family) in racist ass Indiana...he obviously and wrongly took his frustrations out physically on all of them.
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Reply #16 posted 12/29/20 4:25am

RJOrion

LOL... told yall in the other thread with the MJ/Madonna photos, that it was obvious that Mike hated her ...now we hear it from his own mouth...good stuff
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Reply #17 posted 12/29/20 4:31am

RJOrion

Madonna tried to expose MJ to her "alternate" lifestyle full of gay strip clubs and sado masochism, and he wasnt with the shits...good for him... she tried to turn him out like she did with Dennis Rodman and Mike wasnt havin it... Madonna was Kim Kardashian before Kim Kardashian...known industry witches
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Reply #18 posted 12/29/20 6:03am

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RJOrion said:

Madonna tried to expose MJ to her "alternate" lifestyle full of gay strip clubs and sado masochism, and he wasnt with the shits...good for him... she tried to turn him out like she did with Dennis Rodman and Mike wasnt havin it... Madonna was Kim Kardashian before Kim Kardashian...known industry witches

I think that she wanted to bang him but when she wanted to kiss him his heart stopped and he turned away his cheeck and started laughin,so she thought that he was gay so thats why she wanted to expose him.

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Reply #19 posted 12/29/20 6:29am

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Well hell, when I heard "freak", I thought I was going to hear some good stuff like wild and kinky sexual stuff. lol This is just more of that dull Peter Pan side of him that has always turned me off. The only good dirt was him talking about Madonna but if she couldn't get him away from that Peter Pan shit, then he was hopeless. I do blame all of that shit on Joseph though. Michael was a better person than me though because if I was him, once I made all that money after "Thriller", I would have used my money and fame to make Joseph's life as miserable as he had made mine. I wouldn't have stopped until he was on the side of the road holding up a "Will Work For Food" sign. evillol

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Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #20 posted 12/29/20 10:35am

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Secrets? This is the same stuff he talked about in interviews. Millions of kids got their tail beat in the same way many without their parents caring how they ended up. Others became doctors and lawyers because their parents didn't play. Not fair but it is what it is. Some resolve the issue some don't. Too bad he didn't have the self preservation to stop with the kids. We saw that with the Bashir interview. No clue why he thought any child would be more loyal to him over their parents. Stubbornness I guess. My heart sank when that child laid his head on his shoulder on national tv. No idea it was going to be as bad as it was. The women he dated. I always took him and Prince dating Madonna as a publicity stunt. I never put much value in it. Gotta laugh at the others he mentioned. All were BIG names at the time, All became celebrities as children, and he's saying they all asked to date him not him asking any of them. And the whole wacko jacko thing. It's been written he planted some of that earlier stuff himself. I dunno if he did or not. I don't see why he couldn't. Been in the game a longtime.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #21 posted 12/29/20 11:06am

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RJOrion said:

WTF is your problem with Michael in regards to this video?...your hate should be directed at Joseph Jackson, a man who obviously couldnt deal with the pressures of having a wife and nine children (and alledegly others outside of the immediate family) in racist ass Indiana...he obviously and wrongly took his frustrations out physically on all of them.

Why hate Joseph Jackson?

If it weren't for him there'd be no Michael Jackson.

From his personality I doubt Michael would've ever persued a recording career.

I don't condone abuse, but to varying degrees he made all his children famous.

They were even on TV in the seventies!

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Reply #22 posted 12/29/20 11:15am

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CynicKill said:

RJOrion said:

WTF is your problem with Michael in regards to this video?...your hate should be directed at Joseph Jackson, a man who obviously couldnt deal with the pressures of having a wife and nine children (and alledegly others outside of the immediate family) in racist ass Indiana...he obviously and wrongly took his frustrations out physically on all of them.

Why hate Joseph Jackson?

If it weren't for him there'd be no Michael Jackson.

From his personality I doubt Michael would've ever persued a recording career.

I don't condone abuse, but to varying degrees he made all his children famous.

They were even on TV in the seventies!


Yeah. Not even Michael "hated" him. He also called him a genius. I guess it just was different times, although some of the "upbringing" was highly questionable. But it is what it is. And each child obviously responds differently to that.

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Reply #23 posted 12/29/20 11:36am

RJOrion

CynicKill said:

RJOrion said:

WTF is your problem with Michael in regards to this video?...your hate should be directed at Joseph Jackson, a man who obviously couldnt deal with the pressures of having a wife and nine children (and alledegly others outside of the immediate family) in racist ass Indiana...he obviously and wrongly took his frustrations out physically on all of them.

Why hate Joseph Jackson?

If it weren't for him there'd be no Michael Jackson.

From his personality I doubt Michael would've ever persued a recording career.

I don't condone abuse, but to varying degrees he made all his children famous.

They were even on TV in the seventies!

the man soaked his babies in oil and whipped them with extension cords... im a parent of two teenage boys, and there is under no circumstances a good reason to reprimand a child by soaking them in oil and whipping them like a slave...thats abusive and masochistic...no wonder MJ has so many emotional scars...did u listen to the recording?

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Reply #24 posted 12/29/20 11:44am

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RJOrion said:



CynicKill said:




RJOrion said:


WTF is your problem with Michael in regards to this video?...your hate should be directed at Joseph Jackson, a man who obviously couldnt deal with the pressures of having a wife and nine children (and alledegly others outside of the immediate family) in racist ass Indiana...he obviously and wrongly took his frustrations out physically on all of them.

Why hate Joseph Jackson?


If it weren't for him there'd be no Michael Jackson.


From his personality I doubt Michael would've ever persued a recording career.


I don't condone abuse, but to varying degrees he made all his children famous.


They were even on TV in the seventies!








the man soaked his babies in oil and whipped them with extension cords... im a parent of two teenage boys, and there is under no circumstances a good reason to reprimand a child by soaking them in oil and whipping them like a slave...thats abusive and masochistic...no wonder MJ has so many emotional scars...did u listen to the recording?


I doubt anybody is in agreement with that kind of treatment but we all know that kind of thing isn't as rare as it should be and we know it's generational. We all know where that mentality stems from. It's not just simply being sadistic. It's buried deep.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #25 posted 12/29/20 12:22pm

CynicKill

RJOrion said:

CynicKill said:

Why hate Joseph Jackson?

If it weren't for him there'd be no Michael Jackson.

From his personality I doubt Michael would've ever persued a recording career.

I don't condone abuse, but to varying degrees he made all his children famous.

They were even on TV in the seventies!

the man soaked his babies in oil and whipped them with extension cords... im a parent of two teenage boys, and there is under no circumstances a good reason to reprimand a child by soaking them in oil and whipping them like a slave...thats abusive and masochistic...no wonder MJ has so many emotional scars...did u listen to the recording?

I did not.

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Reply #26 posted 12/29/20 12:50pm

RJOrion

onlyforaminute said:

RJOrion said:

the man soaked his babies in oil and whipped them with extension cords... im a parent of two teenage boys, and there is under no circumstances a good reason to reprimand a child by soaking them in oil and whipping them like a slave...thats abusive and masochistic...no wonder MJ has so many emotional scars...did u listen to the recording?

I doubt anybody is in agreement with that kind of treatment but we all know that kind of thing isn't as rare as it should be and we know it's generational. We all know where that mentality stems from. It's not just simply being sadistic. It's buried deep.

theres no excusing his behavior...we as people of African descent, all have our scars from slavery, but thats no excuse to deflect and transfer the abuse from ours oppressors and captors, onto our own innocent flesh and blood. no excuse

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Reply #27 posted 12/29/20 1:11pm

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RJOrion said:



onlyforaminute said:


RJOrion said:





the man soaked his babies in oil and whipped them with extension cords... im a parent of two teenage boys, and there is under no circumstances a good reason to reprimand a child by soaking them in oil and whipping them like a slave...thats abusive and masochistic...no wonder MJ has so many emotional scars...did u listen to the recording?



I doubt anybody is in agreement with that kind of treatment but we all know that kind of thing isn't as rare as it should be and we know it's generational. We all know where that mentality stems from. It's not just simply being sadistic. It's buried deep.



theres no excusing his behavior...we as people of African descent, all have our scars from slavery, but thats no excuse to deflect and transfer the abuse from ours oppressors and captors, onto our own innocent flesh and blood. no excuse


Ok. Honestly I don't know if it all went down like MJ said. LaToya has said things worse and then said she was made to say those things by an abusive husband. Who frikkin knows but them. There's a boatload of other siblings that seem to be living some pretty regular lives considering, if all that kind of stuff was going down regularly, that's all I know.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #28 posted 12/29/20 5:06pm

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RJOrion said:



onlyforaminute said:


RJOrion said:





the man soaked his babies in oil and whipped them with extension cords... im a parent of two teenage boys, and there is under no circumstances a good reason to reprimand a child by soaking them in oil and whipping them like a slave...thats abusive and masochistic...no wonder MJ has so many emotional scars...did u listen to the recording?



I doubt anybody is in agreement with that kind of treatment but we all know that kind of thing isn't as rare as it should be and we know it's generational. We all know where that mentality stems from. It's not just simply being sadistic. It's buried deep.



theres no excusing his behavior...we as people of African descent, all have our scars from slavery, but thats no excuse to deflect and transfer the abuse from ours oppressors and captors, onto our own innocent flesh and blood. no excuse



eek
Ouch. It goes that far.
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Reply #29 posted 12/29/20 5:55pm

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Half the people on this site probably get off being pissed on - so who's to call anyone a freak? MJ never said he was perfect. And they'll continue to try and tear down a dead man who was the biggest star in the world. You can't unhear Thriller or Off The Wall. It's out there, and his rep doesn't mean anything now. It's about his music.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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