independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Baby It's Cold Outside (rapey?) for the #MeToo generation
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 3 of 3 <123
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #60 posted 12/18/19 5:22pm

BlaqueKnight

avatar

MickyDolenz said:

paligap said:

I wonder if millenials are misinterpreting the original lyrics , particulaly the line, "Say, what's in this drink?"

There's a local radio station that plays old hits from the 1970s to the early 2000s and they play Funky Cold Medina by Tone Lōc all the time. I guess the main listeners for that station isn't the Tumblr or Lipstick Alley #ADOS audience lol

That a whole lot of different things you just combined into one there, buddy. Care to clarify?

Tumblr is a photo sharing site. Lipstick Alley is a female-centric gossip site and #ADOS is about reparations and reform for American decendents of slaves.

They might discuss Funky Cold Medina on Lipstick Alley but how do the other two relate? Please explain.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #61 posted 12/18/19 7:10pm

MickyDolenz

avatar

BlaqueKnight said:

Care to clarify? Please explain.

It's a joke, that's why the laughy face is there. I make jokes about stuff all the time here, it's not that serious. If you've ever been to those sites, then you'd have gotten it. I didn't say that Funky Cold Medina was mentioned, but what the song is about and It's Cold Outside is the kind of thing that gets complained about there. So if they listened to that station, the song might be gone like Rosanne Barr was fired from her own TV show for her Twitter posts and it was renamed The Connors. Tumblr is not just photos. People post all kinds of things there like poetry, stories, writings, history, fan fiction, have fundraisers, feminist blogs, LGBTQ+, superheores, sci fi, stuff they sell, etc. It's sorta like an updated Myspace. On Tumblr, a lot of people would not like that Tone Lōc gives women a drink to get them into bed and the transgender people there would object to the "Sheena was a man" verse as homophobic/transphobic. There's a lot of "cancel culture" on both Tumblr & Lipstick Alley & also on Youtube comments. The ADOS people say things like black British actors shouldn't play "African Americans", only black actors born in the USA who have slave ancestors should play these roles. Some are against Africans from Africa too, saying they're the ones who sold their people to slave traders. They also say performers like Bruno Mars & Post Malone are doing cultural appropriation, so don't listen to their music. One even has a Youtube video saying she hopes Bruno dies because he "stole black music" and got rich.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #62 posted 12/18/19 8:08pm

kpowers

avatar

TrivialPursuit said:

It's not rapey. Never was, never will be. I get tired of snowflake liberals (and frankly conservatives too) trying to fuck stuff up. I don't believe "Blurred Lines" was rapey either.

Yup agree with that 100%

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #63 posted 12/18/19 8:33pm

BlaqueKnight

avatar

MickyDolenz said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Care to clarify? Please explain.

It's a joke, that's why the laughy face is there. I make jokes about stuff all the time here, it's not that serious. If you've ever been to those sites, then you'd have gotten it. I didn't say that Funky Cold Medina was mentioned, but what the song is about and It's Cold Outside is the kind of thing that gets complained about there. So if they listened to that station, the song might be gone like Rosanne Barr was fired from her own TV show for her Twitter posts and it was renamed The Connors. Tumblr is not just photos. People post all kinds of things there like poetry, stories, writings, history, fan fiction, have fundraisers, feminist blogs, LGBTQ+, superheores, sci fi, stuff they sell, etc. It's sorta like an updated Myspace. On Tumblr, a lot of people would not like that Tone Lōc gives women a drink to get them into bed and the transgender people there would object to the "Sheena was a man" verse as homophobic/transphobic. There's a lot of "cancel culture" on both Tumblr & Lipstick Alley & also on Youtube comments. The ADOS people say things like black British actors shouldn't play "African Americans", only black actors born in the USA who have slave ancestors should play these roles. Some are against Africans from Africa too, saying they're the ones who sold their people to slave traders. They also say performers like Bruno Mars & Post Malone are doing cultural appropriation, so don't listen to their music. One even has a Youtube video saying she hopes Bruno dies because he "stole black music" and got rich.

Well, ADOS is not really about that. I don't think you have a full grasp of what that organization is about. If your takeaway from ADOS is about actors, you really aren't listening AT ALL.

I have heard the arguments against British actors portraying the black American experience. There may be some validity to the theory that a Brit can not fully grasp the experience because they don't live here to experience it. Frankly, I could care less most of the times. Its just entertainment, but I understand the argument. Brits would flip if an American played James Bond. Americans have the right to flip over Brits playing Americans, too. Who cares? They do, I guess.

Lipstick Alley is a gossip site. Anything can be said there.

You are right; I don't visit Tumblr. I've just seen pics posted with tumblr tags.

I like Bruno Mars. I don't like Post Malone. IDK about appropriation. I just choose artists according to my personal taste.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #64 posted 12/18/19 10:13pm

MickyDolenz

avatar

BlaqueKnight said:

Well, ADOS is not really about that. I don't think you have a full grasp of what that organization is about. If your takeaway from ADOS is about actors, you really aren't listening AT ALL.

I never said anything about an organization. I clearly said the #ADOS (with a hashtag) people on Lipstick Alley, Tumblr, & Youtube. My comment was a joke, it wasn't meant to be replied to or given an explantion for. You're taking a throwaway comment way too seriously. This is a gossip site, so not that much of a difference from Lipstick Alley. You think "Johnny Depp is making a musical about Michael Jackson's glove" or Robin Crawford's relationship with Whitney Houston or the some of the threads in general discussion is not gossip?

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #65 posted 12/19/19 5:32am

WhisperingDand
elions

avatar

Wasn't meant to be replied to? I think you may be on the wrong medium.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #66 posted 12/19/19 8:39am

blacknote

avatar

lastdecember said:

Yes there will always be the removal of the scene in Purple Rain where Prince slaps Apollonia, the dumpster scene is gone for sure, they are going to edit clothes on to Apollonia 6 rather than have them in Lingerie a new remaster will be done with CGI and it will be called "Purple Rain" the woke anniversary edition.

Well, it appears that cable network Showtime has started editing films to omit scenes of violence to women. I was watching Frank Miller’s Sin City on Showtime the other night and they deleted a brief scene where Detective Rafferty slaps Shellie the bar maid. I was floored.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #67 posted 12/19/19 8:41am

MickyDolenz

avatar

WhisperingDandelions said:

Wasn't meant to be replied to? I think you may be on the wrong medium.

Explaining a joke takes the fun out of it. It's supposed to be a silly comment, that's all. It's wasn't for some serious discussion about it. Writing what it's about is like a magician explaining how he or she saw a woman in half. I don't care how it's done, it would ruin the trick. If a person doesn't get the joke oh well. Like the Red Hot Chili Peppers song says "If you have to ask, you'll never know". razz

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #68 posted 12/19/19 9:55am

BlaqueKnight

avatar

It helps when the "joke" makes sense.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #69 posted 12/19/19 10:53am

MickyDolenz

avatar

BlaqueKnight said:

It helps when the "joke" makes sense.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/1SekLmOLpm21W/giphy.gif

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #70 posted 12/19/19 5:48pm

kpowers

avatar

Image result for southpark taylor swift bill cosby gif

Image result for southpark taylor swift bill cosby gif

Image result for southpark taylor swift bill cosby gif

Image result for southpark taylor swift bill cosby gif

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #71 posted 12/22/19 2:01pm

kpowers

avatar

OldFriends4Sale said:

John Legend defends his 'Baby, It's Cold Outside' remake: 'It wasn't supposed to be preachy at all'

Erin Donnelly

2 days ago

http://www.msn.com/en-us/...ocid=ientp

His updated, pro-consent lyrics to "Baby, It's Cold Outside" — written with Insecure's Natasha Rothwell and sung as a duet with Kelly Clarkson — has been accused of "destroying" Christmas , but John Legend is standing his ground.

"The song was supposed to be silly!" the singer says in a new interview with the Observer in the U.K. "It wasn't supposed to be preachy at all. I never disparaged the old version. And, by the way, the original writer, or his family, gets paid for my version, too."

That'd be Frank Loesser, who wrote the Christmas classic — deemed flirty by fans, and predatory by critics — in 1944. Since then, it's been a holiday favorite sung by the likes of Ella Fitzgerald and Dean Martin, whose daughter Deana Martin called Legend's new lyrics "absolutely absurd." In Legend and Clarkson's version, the male protagonist offers to call his date an Uber when his female date insists she's got to go home.


They will probably bitch about that too. Women don't need men to call them an uber, they can do it themselves, sexiest pigs lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #72 posted 12/22/19 10:56pm

BlaqueKnight

avatar

kpowers said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

In Legend and Clarkson's version, the male protagonist offers to call his date an Uber when his female date insists she's got to go home.

They will probably bitch about that too. Women don't need men to call them an uber, they can do it themselves, sexiest pigs lol

lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #73 posted 12/24/19 11:13am

BlaqueKnight

avatar

Its like they heard me! Gotta love these guys! Now THIS is how you do it and make a point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqd84F6R33g

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 3 of 3 <123
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Baby It's Cold Outside (rapey?) for the #MeToo generation