Michael Jackson Is Not Your #MeToo Minstrel https://reidunsaxerud.com...-minstrel/

As a good chunk of the world is aware, “Leaving Neverland” screened during the first week of the 2019 Sundance Film Festival. In it is nearly four hours’ worth of allegedly damning…testimony? Content? Guided by its two teary-eyed stars: Wade Robson and James Safechuck.

There’s already been much written about the documentary itself. HBO went against their better judgment and has scheduled to air in early March.

Unfortunately, much like many things in Jackson’s life, there is no one-size-fits-all, simple discussion of this matter. Because it centers around Jackson, there is no way to reduce the spectacle and sensationalism. Even in death, he is still larger-than-life: due to the content of the film, Sundance provided immediate on-site counseling for anyone traumatized, standing in the wings at the ready.

And, you know: I get it. True or not, a four-hour documentary that chronicles alleged sexual abuse reminds me a little too much of A Clockwork Orange-style aversion therapy for good ol’ chellovek Alex. It can be a lot to take. I had to take a break watching the recent Ted Bundy series on Netflix due to my own experience with malignant narcissists, previous abuse triggers, and the creative direction of the series. It was simply too much to handle at one time I wouldn’t have been able to sit through a full series binge either without assistance. But I had no warning and certainly no pre-emptive hand-holding at the ready.

So, sure, why not. Let’s just go ahead and signal to the audience in advance that what they are about to see is Weird and Very Bizarre, simply because it features Michael Jackson.

The Harvey Weinstein documentary did not, as I understand, have the same assistance immediately on-hand. Yeah, that guy. That Harvey Weinstein. Remember him? The top of this entire pyramid of rightfully angry sexual abuse victims coming forward and working to removing their abusers from power. That guy. Remember him?.....

[Edited 2/12/19 20:31pm]

Michael Jackson Is Not Your #MeToo Minstrel https://reidunsaxerud.com...-minstrel/

As a good chunk of the world is aware, “Leaving Neverland” screened during the first week of the 2019 Sundance Film Festival. In it is nearly four hours’ worth of allegedly damning…testimony? Content? Guided by its two teary-eyed stars: Wade Robson and James Safechuck.

There’s already been much written about the documentary itself. HBO went against their better judgment and has scheduled to air in early March.

Unfortunately, much like many things in Jackson’s life, there is no one-size-fits-all, simple discussion of this matter. Because it centers around Jackson, there is no way to reduce the spectacle and sensationalism. Even in death, he is still larger-than-life: due to the content of the film, Sundance provided



immediate on-site counseling for anyone traumatized, standing in the wings at the ready.

And, you know: I get it. True or not, a four-hour documentary that chronicles alleged sexual abuse reminds me a little too much of A Clockwork Orange-style aversion therapy for good ol’ chellovek Alex. It can be a lot to take. I had to take a break watching the recent Ted Bundy series on Netflix
due to my own experience with malignant narcissists, previous abuse triggers, and the creative direction of the series. It was simply too much to handle at one time I wouldn’t have been able to sit through a full series binge either without assistance. But I had no warning and certainly no pre-emptive hand-holding at the ready.

So, sure, why not. Let’s just go ahead and signal to the audience in advance that what they are about to see is Weird and Very Bizarre, simply because it features Michael Jackson.

The Harvey Weinstein documentary did not, as I understand, have the same assistance immediately on-hand. Yeah, that guy. That Harvey Weinstein. Remember him? The top of this entire pyramid of rightfully angry sexual abuse victims coming forward and working to removing their abusers from power. That guy. Remember him?.....

[Edited 2/12/19 20:31pm]

Michael Jackson Is Not Your #MeToo Minstrel https://reidunsaxerud.com...-minstrel/

As a good chunk of the world is aware, “Leaving Neverland” screened during the first week of the 2019 Sundance Film Festival. In it is nearly four hours’ worth of allegedly damning…testimony? Content? Guided by its two teary-eyed stars: Wade Robson and James Safechuck.

There’s already been much written about the documentary itself. HBO went against their better judgment and has scheduled to air in early March.

Unfortunately, much like many things in Jackson’s life, there is no one-size-fits-all, simple discussion of this matter. Because it centers around Jackson, there is no way to reduce the spectacle and sensationalism. Even in death, he is still larger-than-life: due to the content of the film, Sundance provided

The
immediate on-site counseling for anyone traumatized, standing in the wings at the ready.

And, you know: I get it. True or not, a four-hour documentary that chronicles alleged sexual abuse reminds me a little too much of A Clockwork Orange-style aversion therapy for good ol’ chellovek Alex. It can be a lot to take. I had to take a break watching the recent Ted Bundy series on Netflix due to my own experience with malignant narcissists, previous abuse triggers, and the creative direction of the series. It was simply too much to handle at one time I wouldn’t have been able to sit through a full series binge either without assistance. But I had no warning and certainly no pre-emptive hand-holding at the ready.

So, sure, why not. Let’s just go ahead and signal to the audience in advance that what they are about to see is Weird and Very Bizarre, simply because it features Michael Jackson.

The Harvey Weinstein documentary did not, as I understand, have the same assistance immediately on-hand. Yeah, that guy. That Harvey Weinstein. Remember him? The top of this entire pyramid of rightfully angry sexual abuse victims coming forward and working to removing their abusers from power. That guy. Remember him?.....

[Edited 2/12/19 20:31pm]

SoulAlive said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Paris & Prince aren't Katherine. She's the only one that would know & can speak of her being kidnapped. What would be the purpose of kidnapping your own mother? U can see your Mother whenever U want. Just like the bold face lie that was told that Janet slapped Paris. Smh

The Jackson children,including Janet,kidnapped Katherine.They were gonna try to get her to sign over her share of MJ’s estate.They wrongly assumed that she was being deceived by those lawyers that MJ left in charge.It was a shameful plot by the Jacksons and I was disappointed at Janet for participating in that.

I know all the sorid details of what was "said" that happened. But still Katherine NEVER verified it. She ONLY said her nephew kidnapped her & stole money from her two years ago.

This is the statement she made about the fabrication of the other false kidnapping.

"There are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped and held against my will," she said in the prepared statement. "I am here today to let everybody to know that I am fine.

"My children would never do a thing to me like that, holding me against my will. It's very stupid for people to think that," she said. "There's a lot of lies that have been put out there and I am going home to straighten them out, and this kind of stuff doesn't make sense."

Katherine out of her own MOUTH.

alphastreet said:

Maybe it was

It sure would be nice to see a tribute to Michael's music to counteract this bullshit so-called doc.

ItsLetoyaBaby said:

RODSERLING said:

The documentary will be broadcast on M6 in France, the same channel that broadcast Live with MJ in 2003. The response was 90% positive at the time. . Now, with this crap being broadcast all over the world, MJ s reputation is damaged forever. The situation is worst than in 2003/2005. . It sucks a lot, it s too sad to play his records anymore.

Just wait until the doc is broadcast on HBO and Channel 4, TV channels of the two biggest media and public influencer countries, USA and the UK. All hell is going to break loose and MJ's reputation will be forever tainted. Sad, very sad. I am deeply saddened by all of this, not for MJ but for me. I was a HUGE fan when I was a teenager, I loved MJ with all my heart and cared a lot for him. I spent a lot of personal and emotional baggage on him thinking it was worth it because MJ deserved it. He was a childlike human being with a pure heart and pure soul uncapable of harming anyone let alone those he loved the most, children. We all believed it and fought for him tooth and nails, defending him every time a negative article came out or a less than sympathetic statement was made regarding our god-like idol. It turns out he could care less and just wanted to do what he wished regardless. Constant sleepovers, rotating "special friends" that seemed to always accompany him wherever he went, a seemingly endless obsession and fixation on children. Even after the first allegations he continued doing the same things over and over again. I cannot do for him what he didn't do for himself. He took no precautions and never even seemed remotely interested in doing that, so why should I defend him? It's like he shat a mountain of shit and expects the fans to clean it for him. Also, his siblings have done nothing to defend him from this doc. It seems they only care when it comes to getting his money. Now that Katherine is close to dying they will be left with nothing from him so they don't really give a crap about his reputation, they will not be the ones at the receiving end, monetarily speaking, of his brand so for all they care it could be in tatters. I feel let down by Michael and his family and honestly I will just turn my back like I and some others did the first time around, when the drug addict image came about and we warned everyone about what the family (who was creating the junkie image) was doing and their motives. We were repelled by the other fans and just left the mess behind. Now, I am personally repelled by everything especially the one person that attracted me in the first place. Mikey, you let me down.

Oh. Boohoo. Then just leave.

Really. Nothing has changed. These two fuckers playing victim in a movie changes nothing. Absolutely nothing. Either you believe Michael is innocent or you don't.

RODSERLING said:

The documentary will be broadcast on M6 in France, the same channel that broadcast Live with MJ in 2003. The response was 90% positive at the time. . Now, with this crap being broadcast all over the world, MJ s reputation is damaged forever. The situation is worst than in 2003/2005. . It sucks a lot, it s too sad to play his records anymore.

Just wait until the doc is broadcast on HBO and Channel 4, TV channels of the two biggest media and public influencer countries, USA and the UK. All hell is going to break loose and MJ's reputation will be forever tainted. Sad, very sad. I am deeply saddened by all of this, not for MJ but for me. I was a HUGE fan when I was a teenager, I loved MJ with all my heart and cared a lot for him. I spent a lot of personal and emotional baggage on him thinking it was worth it because MJ deserved it. He was a childlike human being with a pure heart and pure soul uncapable of harming anyone let alone those he loved the most, children. We all
believed it and fought for him tooth and nails, defending him every time a negative article came out or a less than sympathetic statement was made regarding our god-like idol. It turns out he could care less and just wanted to do what he wished regardless. Constant sleepovers, rotating "special friends" that seemed to always accompany him wherever he went, a seemingly endless obsession and fixation on children. Even after the first allegations he continued doing the same things
over and over again. I cannot do for him what he didn't do for himself. He took no precautions and never even seemed remotely interested in doing that, so why should I defend him? It's like he shat a mountain of shit and expects the fans to clean it for him. Also, his siblings have done nothing to defend him from this doc. It seems they only care when it comes to getting his money. Now that Katherine is close to dying they will be left with nothing from him so they don't really give a crap about his reputation, they will not be the ones at the receiving end, monetarily speaking, of his brand so for all they care it could be in tatters. I feel let down by Michael and his family and honestly I will just turn my back like I and some others did the first time around, when the drug addict image came about and we warned everyone about what the family (who was creating the junkie image) was doing and their motives. We were repelled by the other fans and just left the mess behind. Now, I am personally repelled by everything especially the one person that attracted me in the first place. Mikey, you let me down.

You look at what's happening with R. Kelly, and there will be a rush to tie to the two together. The difference is, there was proof of Kelly marrying Aaliyah in the 90's, he had a sex tape circulating in bootleg stores, P2P sites, etc. at the turn of the century, and now the news coming out today which sounds pretty damning. The details of the tape sound like everything we've heard about the allegations him.

People describe patterns against MJ's alleged abuse too, but the difference is that there is no cooroberating evidence. Strip search did nothing, raids on his house did nothing, surveillance and investigations only turned up allegations. And this documentary is about probably two of the least credible accusers there are. Obviously, if the allegations were true that would make it more damaging and horrible for them, but you can't walk backwards towards allegations. From the interviews I've seen, the documentary maker seems to take the stance that the men are telling the truth, and then walks back from that. He says "it's not about MJ, its about abuse". Well, if these men were abused then in essence it is about him... The main selling point here seems to be the graphic detail. Nobody who has seen the documentary has laid claim to seeing new proof, details.

Essentially, it will stir the same argument that people have had for 25 years, with more sordid details thrown in, but no proof to back those details up. I don't think anyone who wasn't already a fan or believed the allegations will change their mind, and I don't think anyone who isn't the most casual of fans will be tossing their Jackson albums out. I think this will continue to be talked about, discussed and debated for a long time until when and if any actual proof comes to light, in whoever's favor, because there is no gray area; he was guilty or he wasn't. Until that gray area is no more, I think his legacy will survive.

The whole saga that's been going on over the last 5 years with this movement is really a mind****. You don't want to falsely accuse, and you don't want to belittle victims or dismiss them. And you never really know who is telling the truth in some of these cases.