D.L. Hughley Says Society Gave Michael Jackson a Pass Because of His Talent

Reply #1381 posted 03/11/19 10:49am

ItsLetoyaBaby

PatrickS77 said:

jayaredee said:

She later retracted her statements and said her ex husband made her say those things. Who to believe?

But oddly enough those interviews she did she seemed so convinced about it hmm.

Which just shows you how easy it is to convince people. If there really was a crime committed and hush money paid for people to shut up, do you really think Michael would be that stupid the let checks and shit lie around all over the house for everyone to see? Do you really think if he paid people and parents to shut up from accusing him LaToya, of all people, would be privy to any information on that?? Think.

But I still despise LaToya for never really owing up to it and publicly apologizing and adressing this issue. All she ever did was say that "management" made her say these things and quickly changed the topic. Really, she's a cunt. Many people cite her as a reason they believe this shit. And really, with her it's the same as with Robson and Safechuck. Either she was lying then or she is lying now. No reason to ever believe anything she says.

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Latoya has been silent this whole time. Not a word. Not a word in his defence. Is she trying to tell us something through silence or is it vengeance over the will like the junkie image?

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Reply #1382 posted 03/11/19 10:52am

RichardS

CherryMoon57 said:

Free2BMe said:
CherryMoon57 said:
Most people generally Do enjoy the company of kids without insisting on and making special arrangements to spend the night alone with some selected boys.
[/ quote] Damn, you perverted NAMBLA enthusiasts are really getting off on these sick pedophilic FANTASIES from Robson and Safechuck! This fraudomentary has given you Sickos a platform to promote your fetishs. NAMBLA is probably jumping for joy that two pieces of TP trash and a porn director are giving their doctrine such a boost. Great job promoting NAMBLA doctrine, Dan Reed. You and your actors-Robson and Safechuck- are a danger to society. Scum!!

I am not sure who is promoting what here lol. I even had to look it up as I had never heard about this NAMBLA thing until you mentioned it!

Free2BMe thinks that anyone who suggests MJ had a sexual interest in boys must themselves have a sexual interest in boys. It is one of the most bizarre beliefs that anyone here has, and he/she appears to be very irrational.

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Reply #1383 posted 03/11/19 10:59am

jayaredee

ItsLetoyaBaby said:

PatrickS77 said:

Which just shows you how easy it is to convince people. If there really was a crime committed and hush money paid for people to shut up, do you really think Michael would be that stupid the let checks and shit lie around all over the house for everyone to see? Do you really think if he paid people and parents to shut up from accusing him LaToya, of all people, would be privy to any information on that?? Think.

But I still despise LaToya for never really owing up to it and publicly apologizing and adressing this issue. All she ever did was say that "management" made her say these things and quickly changed the topic. Really, she's a cunt. Many people cite her as a reason they believe this shit. And really, with her it's the same as with Robson and Safechuck. Either she was lying then or she is lying now. No reason to ever believe anything she says.

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Latoya has been silent this whole time. Not a word. Not a word in his defence. Is she trying to tell us something through silence or is it vengeance over the will like the junkie image?

According to Taj Jackson, Janet is saying nothing because it is the Jackson way to not give the negativity any attention. So I assume this is the same for Latoya?

However he does acknowledge that silence will not solve the issue in this new social media infested world and that they should be a little more outspoken.

Those 2 podcasts with Taj and Brandi Jackson were very interesting. They're an hour each. Please listen if you all have the time.

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Reply #1384 posted 03/11/19 11:29am

nd33

jayaredee said:

ItsLetoyaBaby said:

PatrickS77 said:

Which just shows you how easy it is to convince people. If there really was a crime committed and hush money paid for people to shut up, do you really think Michael would be that stupid the let checks and shit lie around all over the house for everyone to see? Do you really think if he paid people and parents to shut up from accusing him LaToya, of all people, would be privy to any information on that?? Think.

But I still despise LaToya for never really owing up to it and publicly apologizing and adressing this issue. All she ever did was say that "management" made her say these things and quickly changed the topic. Really, she's a cunt. Many people cite her as a reason they believe this shit. And really, with her it's the same as with Robson and Safechuck. Either she was lying then or she is lying now. No reason to ever believe anything she says.

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Latoya has been silent this whole time. Not a word. Not a word in his defence. Is she trying to tell us something through silence or is it vengeance over the will like the junkie image?

According to Taj Jackson, Janet is saying nothing because it is the Jackson way to not give the negativity any attention. So I assume this is the same for Latoya?

Yeah I saw him saying something similar - that the older Jackson’s are operating on the philosophy of - any comment draws attention and gives credibility to the accusations. In contrast, the younger gen Jackson’s, such as Taj and Brandi see that the new internet/social media age is a different beast. I think the elders made a mistake. But anyway, the youngsters are doing a better job IMO. They’re some smart cookies.

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Reply #1385 posted 03/11/19 11:43am

ItsLetoyaBaby

nd33 said:
jayaredee said:

According to Taj Jackson, Janet is saying nothing because it is the Jackson way to not give the negativity any attention. So I assume this is the same for Latoya?

However he does acknowledge that silence will not solve the issue in this new social media infested world and that they should be a little more outspoken.

Those 2 podcasts with Taj and Brandi Jackson were very interesting. They're an hour each. Please listen if you all have the time.

Yeah I saw him saying something similar - that the older Jackson’s are operating on the philosophy of - any comment draws attention and gives credibility to the accusations. In contrast, the younger gen Jackson’s, such as Taj and Brandi see that the new internet/social media age is a different beast. I think the elders made a mistake. But anyway, the youngsters are doing a better job IMO. They’re some smart cookies.

Are you talking about the same family that went all over the media describing Michael as a hopeless addict? The same family who made sure to contradict Michael and instead defend Joe Jackson over and over again, repainting him as just a disciplinarian? Janet is silent because she doesn't want this to rub off on her career. She will distance herself as much as possible from this controversy praying this won't affect her. Rebbie could care less about Michael, she even supported Stacy Brown during the trial lol And Latoya, well, does anyone really believe Jack Gordon "Forced" her to say those things?

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Reply #1386 posted 03/11/19 11:46am

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ItsLetoyaBaby said:

nd33 said:
jayaredee said: Yeah I saw him saying something similar - that the older Jackson’s are operating on the philosophy of - any comment draws attention and gives credibility to the accusations. In contrast, the younger gen Jackson’s, such as Taj and Brandi see that the new internet/social media age is a different beast. I think the elders made a mistake. But anyway, the youngsters are doing a better job IMO. They’re some smart cookies.

Are you talking about the same family that went all over the media describing Michael as a hopeless addict? The same family who made sure to contradict Michael and instead defend Joe Jackson over and over again, repainting him as just a disciplinarian? Janet is silent because she doesn't want this to rub off on her career. She will distance herself as much as possible from this controversy praying this won't affect her. Rebbie could care less about Michael, she even supported Stacy Brown during the trial And Latoya, well, does anyone really believe Jack Gordon "Forced" her to say those things?

This is the same family that leaked negative rumors to the press regarding This Is It when they realized there would be no money for them. Remember all those negative reports on the show? I can only imagine Randy and Joe's buddy L. Rowe calling TMZ lol

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Reply #1387 posted 03/11/19 11:54am

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PatrickS77 said:

jayaredee said:

This is what I never understood. You think he would have been quiet about it. Instead he was presenting a way of life that was normal for him. If he simply shared the bed with the child and went to sleep it isn't a crime. The parents knew where their child was. And more often than not he would sleep on the floor and give up his bed for the child. That is the message I believe he was trying to convey. He was saying that it was a loving thing to "share" the bed. But many interpreted as that he was sleeping in the bed with them. Meanwhile he was the one giving up his bed.

Probably because he just simply had nothing to hide. He wanted to show that there is nothing wrong with his relationships to kids. But of course, it got misunderstood. It ruffled some feathers, alerted some people and put ideas in the head of more people and eventually was his big mistake that put a downward spiral into motion. Because people simply don't want to believe that someone just likes to be in company of kids without wanting to fuck them. It's really sad that people at large seem to think that the only reason someone wants to be with kids is something pervert.

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Most people generally Do enjoy the company of kids without insisting on and making special arrangements to spend the night alone with some selected boys.

Did he really make "special arrangements" though or did it happen naturally?
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Reply #1388 posted 03/11/19 11:57am

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ItsLetoyaBaby said:

PatrickS77 said:

jayaredee said:

She later retracted her statements and said her ex husband made her say those things. Who to believe?

But oddly enough those interviews she did she seemed so convinced about it hmm.

Which just shows you how easy it is to convince people. If there really was a crime committed and hush money paid for people to shut up, do you really think Michael would be that stupid the let checks and shit lie around all over the house for everyone to see? Do you really think if he paid people and parents to shut up from accusing him LaToya, of all people, would be privy to any information on that?? Think.

But I still despise LaToya for never really owing up to it and publicly apologizing and adressing this issue. All she ever did was say that "management" made her say these things and quickly changed the topic. Really, she's a cunt. Many people cite her as a reason they believe this shit. And really, with her it's the same as with Robson and Safechuck. Either she was lying then or she is lying now. No reason to ever believe anything she says.

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Latoya has been silent this whole time. Not a word. Not a word in his defence. Is she trying to tell us something through silence or is it vengeance over the will like the junkie image?

She did talk in his defense on an australian special 2 weeks ago.

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Reply #1389 posted 03/11/19 12:02pm

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RichardS said:

PatrickS77 said:

jayaredee said:

This is what I never understood. You think he would have been quiet about it. Instead he was presenting a way of life that was normal for him. If he simply shared the bed with the child and went to sleep it isn't a crime. The parents knew where their child was. And more often than not he would sleep on the floor and give up his bed for the child. That is the message I believe he was trying to convey. He was saying that it was a loving thing to "share" the bed. But many interpreted as that he was sleeping in the bed with them. Meanwhile he was the one giving up his bed.

Probably because he just simply had nothing to hide. He wanted to show that there is nothing wrong with his relationships to kids. But of course, it got misunderstood. It ruffled some feathers, alerted some people and put ideas in the head of more people and eventually was his big mistake that put a downward spiral into motion. Because people simply don't want to believe that someone just likes to be in company of kids without wanting to fuck them. It's really sad that people at large seem to think that the only reason someone wants to be with kids is something pervert.

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People DO want to believe that people enjoy the company of kids without wanting to fuck them. Because most of the time that is true, thank God. I wish that it were true all of the time, but it isn't.

I reckon that most people who innocently enjoy the company of children don't have naked pictures of children kept in the same location as heterosexual and homosexual erotica and pornography.

Yeah. That certainly doesn't help. But like you said, he had everything. And nothing that classifies as child porn.

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Reply #1390 posted 03/11/19 12:40pm

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RichardS said:

jayaredee said:

How do you conclude that he had a sexual interest in young boys? Just out of sheer curiosity because I have not seen evidence of this.

The contents of this court document - https://www.mjfacts.com/r...aseemd.pdf

It is from mjfacts - which some people claim is a hater site - but I've asked people to discredit this doucment as faked or tampered with, and no-one has.

Take a look at wha was found, and where it was found, in both 1993 and 2003. Note that none of it is illegal and the judge ruled it inadmissable, for the purposes of the trial. Note also that the document nevertheless appears to be accurate. Research the books yourself in terms of the photographs and the photographers who took them. Some are more damning than others.

Also, at least 4 of the jurors in the 2005 trial have stated that although they did not have the evidence to convict in that case, they still believed that he had molested children at some point in the past. These are people who are not haters (because MJ's lawyers would have vetted them) and who saw the evidence first hand. They seem about as credible as possible and even if wrong about the molesting, it is still a strong indication of sexual interest. I don't know if the other jurors disagreed with this or simply did not comment.

The out of court settlement is also a factor, albeit a lesser one. It is often claimed that the insurance company paid out, and that MJ wanted to go to court, but even Jackson's lawyers have stated this not to be the case. I don't have the links to hand - but can dig them out if necessary - one was even on the vindicatemj site, who argued that the insurance company may have paid part fo the claim, but it didn't matter who paid it - so even they agreed the insurance company did not pay all of the money.

From the documentary I found Safechuck's testimony and credibility to be compelling and much of the discrediting of him has been done by association to Robson, which doesn't hold water imo - they are separate (alleged) victims.

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Agreed about Safecheck, I found he and his wife to be credible in the doc. Safecheck appears to be is an emotoinally damaged individual. Thanks for that court document link. Do we know why the judge ruled the book as inadmissable evidence?

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Reply #1391 posted 03/11/19 12:46pm

MoBettaBliss

people here like to act like every allegation was just designed to bring this man down with no credibility

this grown ass man liked to have little boys in his bedroom... that should never have happened... as a parent, i can't believe this was allowed to happen... the parents should hang their head in shame

he paid people off

all through the court cases right up until now, i've held the same line... he was found innocent... nobody who wasn't there truly knows the truth either way

but what do i think?... what do my instincts tell me?... they tell me michael jackson was a putrid child molesting cunt

an awful lot of people think that... regardless of what the majority of one eyed fans on a prince site think

some of y'all make me fuckin sick

i hope you don't have kids... for real

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Reply #1392 posted 03/11/19 12:54pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

RichardS said:

The contents of this court document - https://www.mjfacts.com/r...aseemd.pdf

It is from mjfacts - which some people claim is a hater site - but I've asked people to discredit this doucment as faked or tampered with, and no-one has.

Take a look at wha was found, and where it was found, in both 1993 and 2003. Note that none of it is illegal and the judge ruled it inadmissable, for the purposes of the trial. Note also that the document nevertheless appears to be accurate. Research the books yourself in terms of the photographs and the photographers who took them. Some are more damning than others.

Also, at least 4 of the jurors in the 2005 trial have stated that although they did not have the evidence to convict in that case, they still believed that he had molested children at some point in the past. These are people who are not haters (because MJ's lawyers would have vetted them) and who saw the evidence first hand. They seem about as credible as possible and even if wrong about the molesting, it is still a strong indication of sexual interest. I don't know if the other jurors disagreed with this or simply did not comment.

The out of court settlement is also a factor, albeit a lesser one. It is often claimed that the insurance company paid out, and that MJ wanted to go to court, but even Jackson's lawyers have stated this not to be the case. I don't have the links to hand - but can dig them out if necessary - one was even on the vindicatemj site, who argued that the insurance company may have paid part fo the claim, but it didn't matter who paid it - so even they agreed the insurance company did not pay all of the money.

From the documentary I found Safechuck's testimony and credibility to be compelling and much of the discrediting of him has been done by association to Robson, which doesn't hold water imo - they are separate (alleged) victims.

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Agreed about Safecheck, I found he and his wife to be credible in the doc. Safecheck appears to be is an emotoinally damaged individual. Thanks for that court document link. Do we know why the judge ruled the book as inadmissable evidence?

I think it was simply ruled as not relevant to the trial. Can't remember why - probably because no laws were broken in possessing the material. Don't quote me on that though. However, the defence made no attempt to claim that any of that stuff wasn't found - they accepted that it was found.

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Reply #1393 posted 03/11/19 12:56pm

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MoBettaBliss said:

people here like to act like every allegation was just designed to bring this man down with no credibility

this grown ass man liked to have little boys in his bedroom... that should never have happened... as a parent, i can't believe this was allowed to happen... the parents should hang their head in shame

he paid people off

all through the court cases right up until now, i've held the same line... he was found innocent... nobody who wasn't there truly knows the truth either way

but what do i think?... what do my instincts tell me?... they tell me michael jackson was a putrid child molesting cunt

an awful lot of people think that... regardless of what the majority of one eyed fans on a prince site think

some of y'all make me fuckin sick

i hope you don't have kids... for real

True.

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Reply #1394 posted 03/11/19 12:57pm

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MoBettaBliss said:

people here like to act like every allegation was just designed to bring this man down with no credibility

this grown ass man liked to have little boys in his bedroom... that should never have happened... as a parent, i can't believe this was allowed to happen... the parents should hang their head in shame

he paid people off

all through the court cases right up until now, i've held the same line... he was found innocent... nobody who wasn't there truly knows the truth either way

but what do i think?... what do my instincts tell me?... they tell me michael jackson was a putrid child molesting cunt

an awful lot of people think that... regardless of what the majority of one eyed fans on a prince site think

some of y'all make me fuckin sick

i hope you don't have kids... for real

Right? I have no time to watch another feature explaining the obvious creeppenis going on here.

The second I read that Corey Feldman finally stopped defending MJ in public I knew 'this is it'. Corey was a ride or die for so long.

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Reply #1395 posted 03/11/19 1:03pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

MoBettaBliss said:

people here like to act like every allegation was just designed to bring this man down with no credibility

this grown ass man liked to have little boys in his bedroom... that should never have happened... as a parent, i can't believe this was allowed to happen... the parents should hang their head in shame

he paid people off

all through the court cases right up until now, i've held the same line... he was found innocent... nobody who wasn't there truly knows the truth either way

but what do i think?... what do my instincts tell me?... they tell me michael jackson was a putrid child molesting cunt

an awful lot of people think that... regardless of what the majority of one eyed fans on a prince site think

some of y'all make me fuckin sick

i hope you don't have kids... for real

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Right? I have no time to watch another feature explaining the obvious creeppenis going on here.

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The second I read that Corey Feldman finally stopped defending MJ in public I knew 'this is it'. Corey was a ride or die for so long.

Yep.

Corey Feldman is dramatically pulling back his support for embattled friend Michael Jackson in light of "horrendous" child sexual abuse allegations.

The former child star, 47, told America's HLN (Headline News) that he can "no longer" speak in support of Jackson after he watched and processed Leaving Neverland, the bombshell documentary that debuted in New Zealand on Sunday night.

"I don't want to be perceived as I'm here to defend Michael Jackson, because I can no longer do that. I can not in good consciousness defend anyone who's being accused of such horrendous crimes," Feldman said. "I'm also not here to judge him, because again, he did not do those things to me and that was not my experience."

Feldman later said on social media that the HLN discussion was "the hardest interview" he had ever done.

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Reply #1396 posted 03/11/19 1:12pm

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RichardS said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Agreed about Safecheck, I found he and his wife to be credible in the doc. Safecheck appears to be is an emotoinally damaged individual. Thanks for that court document link. Do we know why the judge ruled the book as inadmissable evidence?

I think it was simply ruled as not relevant to the trial. Can't remember why - probably because no laws were broken in possessing the material. Don't quote me on that though. However, the defence made no attempt to claim that any of that stuff wasn't found - they accepted that it was found.

Interesting.

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Reply #1397 posted 03/11/19 1:46pm

MoBettaBliss	ChocolateBox3121 said: D.L. Hughley Says Society Gave Michael Jackson a Pass Because of His Talent some actual common sense
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Reply #1398 posted 03/11/19 1:52pm

ecnirp98

PatrickS77 said:

ecnirp98 said:

We will never know for sure as only Michael could confess it, but from seeing the documentary I am pretty convinced.

Michael admitted sleeping with children alone in his bed in the Bashir interview, that is not normal bahaviour and should never have happened, so that's enough of a wrong doing in my book, without the further allegations of this documentary, which are more believable based on the facts Michael admitted.

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What a bullshit and simple minded reasoning.

So in your world it's ok for Adults to sleep with children? in any walk of life, if that happens, questions would be asked and need to be answered.

Michael admitted this happened, so I am going on a piece of information that Michael answered/admitted, allot of the other stuff is unproven as I said, only Michael could confirm, or some evidence would need to be produced.

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Reply #1399 posted 03/11/19 1:58pm

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The second I read that Corey Feldman finally stopped defending MJ in public I knew 'this is it'. Corey was a ride or die for so long.

And yet it doesn't negate or change a single thing he said/tweeted before:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEVER ONCE SWORE IN MY PRESENCE, NEVER TOUCHED ME INAPPROPRIATELY, & NEVER EVER SUGGESTED WE SHOULD BE LOVERS IN ANY WAY! I FEEL LIKE IF PPL COULD HEAR OUR CONVOS THEY WOULD HEAR THE INNOCENCE IN THEM. NO HINT OF PERVERSION. I HAV A TAPE, IM THINKIN ABOUT RELEASING, WHICH COULD</p>— Corey Feldman (@Corey_Feldman) <a href="https://twitter.com/Corey_Feldman/status/1102485661100044289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GIV PPL A REAL LOOK @ WHAT A 30 YR OLD MAN/CHILD & A 13 YR OLD BOY WOULD DISCUSS, SO EVERY1 COULD HEAR THE INNOCENCE OF R RELATIONSHIP. AGAIN I WASNT THERE WHEN THOSE BOYS WERE. BUT I WAS THERE AROUND THE SAME TIME AS JIMMY, & I SAW MANY KIDS AROUND (GIRLS INCLUDED) WHO I AM</p>— Corey Feldman (@Corey_Feldman) <a href="https://twitter.com/Corey_Feldman/status/1102485663520251905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">STILL FRIENDS WITH 2 THIS DAY, & NONE OF US WERE EVER APPROACHED BY HIM IN A SEXUAL WAY AT ALL! SO AS MUCH AS THOSE 2 MEN DESERVE 2 HAV THEIR VOICES HEARD, SO DO THE THOUSANDS OF KIDS WHO HUNG AROUND HIM, THAT DONT AGREE! MOST PEDOS R SERIAL OFFENDERS. THEY DONT HAV SELF CONTROL.</p>— Corey Feldman (@Corey_Feldman) <a href="https://twitter.com/Corey_Feldman/status/1102485664514240512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SO GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY WHICH HE CERTAINLY HAD W ME & OTHERS, BEING ALONE, W NO PARENTS AROUND, HOW DID HE CONTROL THOSE URGES SO WELL, WHILE SO BLATANTLY SEXUAL W THOSE 2 BOYS? IT DOESNT REALLY FIT THE PROFILE. BUT WHAT MOTIVE BESIDES $ DO THEY HAV? ABANDONMENT IS A STRONG 1!</p>— Corey Feldman (@Corey_Feldman) <a href="https://twitter.com/Corey_Feldman/status/1102485678338670592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HOWEVER I DO TAKE ISSUE WITH THE FACT THAT THIS WHOLE THING IS 1 SIDED W NO CHANCE OF A DEFENSE FROM A DEAD MAN, & NO EVIDENCE OTHER THAN THE WORD OF 2 MEN WHO AS ADULTS DEFENDED HIM IN COURT! BUT AS WE WILL NEVER REALLY KNOW, I ONLY HAV</p>— Corey Feldman (@Corey_Feldman) <a href="https://twitter.com/Corey_Feldman/status/1102485680603619328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MY MEMORIES. AND THANK GOD 4 ME, MY MEMORIES OF MJ WERE MOSTLY FOND, ASIDE FROM R 1 & ONLY FIGHT BECAUSE HE INCORRECTLY FEARED I WOULD TURN ON HIM, & MAKE UP LIES. I NEVER DID. I NEVER WOULD! I PRAY THOSE BOYS CAN SLEEP W THAT SAME CLARITY OF CONSCIOUSNESS! LET GOD B THY JUDGE!</p>— Corey Feldman (@Corey_Feldman) <a href="https://twitter.com/Corey_Feldman/status/1102485681580855296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Neverland?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Neverland</a> OK I WATCHED IT ALL I KNOW IS WHAT I EXPERIENCED, & YES EVERY EXPERIENCE WAS THE SAME....RIGHT UP 2 THE SEX PART! THAT IS WHERE IT BECOMES LALA LAND, INSTEAD OF NEVERLAND 4 ME. WE NEVER SPOKE ABOUT SEX OTHER THAN A FEW WARNINGS ABOUT HOW SEX WAS SCARY, & DANGEROUS. MJ</p>— Corey Feldman (@Corey_Feldman) <a href="https://twitter.com/Corey_Feldman/status/1102485660236079104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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As a victim himself, he just wants to be politically correct and not perceived as victim shaming. A problem most former victims will have, as obviously they themselves could have easily been disbelieved and know how that would feel and wouldn't want to do that to someone else.

Edit: Geez. I hate this fucking last century buggy forum so fucking much. When I previewed it, the format was okay and now it looks like shit. Sorry, for the fucked up format.

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Reply #1400 posted 03/11/19 2:06pm

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ecnirp98 said:

So

PatrickS77 said:

What a bullshit and simple minded reasoning.

So in your world it's ok for Adults to sleep with children? in any walk of life, if that happens, questions would be asked and need to be answered.

Michael admitted this happened, so I am going on a piece of information that Michael answered/admitted, allot of the other stuff is unproven as I said, only Michael could confirm, or some evidence would need to be produced.

But it wasn't any walk of life. I'm aware how it looks and know it's not a good idea, for both sides, in terms of people talking about it and yet I'm not so hung up on it, like many people are. It's highly unsual. Obviously. But if both want to do it, in a none sexual way obviously and the parents trust that person and have no problem with it, where is the harm, other than motherfuckers talking shit about it?? Of course, if they don't trust the person, wanna be on the safe side and/or have a bad feeling about it, but still do it, because, oh, well, it's Michael Jackson and they get something out of it, than obviously that's a different story.

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Reply #1401 posted 03/11/19 2:09pm

jayaredee	Taj mentions in the podcast that there was more to the story of Corey changing his approach. He knows the whole story but cannot say. Most likely the lynch mob got to him and pressured him to retract his statements. Defending MJ now in and of itself makes one a pariah.
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Reply #1402 posted 03/11/19 2:11pm

Free2BMe

CherryMoon57 said:

Free2BMe said:

CherryMoon57 said:

Probably because he just simply had nothing to hide. He wanted to show that there is nothing wrong with his relationships to kids. But of course, it got misunderstood. It ruffled some feathers, alerted some people and put ideas in the head of more people and eventually was his big mistake that put a downward spiral into motion. Because people simply don't want to believe that someone just likes to be in company of kids without wanting to fuck them. It's really sad that people at large seem to think that the only reason someone wants to be with kids is something pervert.

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Most people generally Do enjoy the company of kids without insisting on and making special arrangements to spend the night alone with some selected boys.

[/ quote] Damn, you perverted NAMBLA enthusiasts are really getting off on these sick pedophilic FANTASIES from Robson and Safechuck

! This fraudomentary has given you Sickos a platform to promote your fetishs. NAMBLA is probably jumping for joy that two pieces of TP trash and a porn director are giving their doctrine such a boost. Great job promoting NAMBLA doctrine, Dan Reed. You and your actors-Robson and Safechuck- are a danger to society. Scum!!

I am not sure who is promoting what here lol. I even had to look it up as I had never heard about this NAMBLA thing until you mentioned it!

I find it laughable and ironic that morons who are gullible enough to fall for the pedophilic FANTASIES of Robson and Safechuck can call someone irrational. In case, you haven’t figured it out, it is irrational to take the scripted words of two liars who are also perjurers, with no corroborating evidence of their lies.
It is also irrational to believe liars who have changed their stories 6 times. I realize that haters don’t have deductive reasoning skills, but, is it too much to ask you lazy people to do some damn research for the evidence and FACTS. Stop being so gullible. You people are embarrassing. cool

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Reply #1403 posted 03/11/19 2:13pm

MoBettaBliss

PatrickS77 said:

ecnirp98 said:

So

So in your world it's ok for Adults to sleep with children? in any walk of life, if that happens, questions would be asked and need to be answered.

Michael admitted this happened, so I am going on a piece of information that Michael answered/admitted, allot of the other stuff is unproven as I said, only Michael could confirm, or some evidence would need to be produced.

But it wasn't any walk of life. I'm aware how it looks and know it's not a good idea, for both sides, in terms of people talking about it and yet I'm not so hung up on it, like many people are. It's highly unsual. Obviously. But if both want to do it, in a none sexual way obviously and the parents trust that person and have no problem with it, where is the harm, other than motherfuckers talking shit about it?? Of course, if they don't trust the person, wanna be on the safe side and/or have a bad feeling about it, but still do it, because, oh, well, it's Michael Jackson and they get something out of it, than obviously that's a different story.

madness

absolute... unadulterated fucking madness

give me ONE example where having your child sleep in a bed with a grown ass man they don't really know (at the man's suggestion, no less) is an acceptable situation

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Reply #1404 posted 03/11/19 2:34pm

Cloudbuster

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jayaredee said:
Taj mentions in the podcast that there was more to the story of Corey changing his approach. He knows the whole story but cannot say. Most likely the lynch mob got to him and pressured him to retract his statements. Defending MJ now in and of itself makes one a pariah.

His comments about David Geffen and John Branca were intriguing as well.

"Think inside out." stoned

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Reply #1405 posted 03/11/19 2:41pm

Free2BMe

CherryMoon57 said:

Free2BMe said:

CherryMoon57 said:

Probably because he just simply had nothing to hide. He wanted to show that there is nothing wrong with his relationships to kids. But of course, it got misunderstood. It ruffled some feathers, alerted some people and put ideas in the head of more people and eventually was his big mistake that put a downward spiral into motion. Because people simply don't want to believe that someone just likes to be in company of kids without wanting to fuck them. It's really sad that people at large seem to think that the only reason someone wants to be with kids is something pervert.

[Edited 3/11/19 8:31am]

Most people generally Do enjoy the company of kids without insisting on and making special arrangements to spend the night alone with some selected boys.

[/ quote] Damn, you perverted NAMBLA enthusiasts are really getting off on these sick pedophilic FANTASIES from Robson and Safechuck! This fraudomentary has given you Sickos a platform to promote your fetishs. NAMBLA is probably jumping for joy that two pieces of TP trash and a porn director are giving their doctrine such a boost. Great job promoting NAMBLA doctrine, Dan Reed. You and your actors-Robson and Safechuck- are a danger to society. Scum!!

I am not sure who is promoting what here lol. I even had to look it up as I had never heard about this NAMBLA thing until you mentioned it!

I forgot you haters are only aware of what fits your agenda. If you had done your research you would know that the script that Robson, Safechuck, and Reed are promoting and regurgitating are the words of Victor Guitterez, who used NAmBLA’s doctrine in his book during the 1993 scam. Of course, I’m not surprised that you don’t know or care to know about Guitterez’s use of NAMBLA as a source and even thanked them in the forward. Every AWARE Michael supporter knows the script that the TP trash is using comes from the perverted mind of Guitterez. It is obvious that Guitterez and the tabloid whore, Dian Demon are involved in this scam, also. It reeks of their foul stench.

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Reply #1406 posted 03/11/19 2:45pm

motownlover

Cloudbuster said:

jayaredee said:

Taj mentions in the podcast that there was more to the story of Corey changing his approach. He knows the whole story but cannot say. Most likely the lynch mob got to him and pressured him to retract his statements. Defending MJ now in and of itself makes one a pariah.

His comments about David Geffen and John Branca were intriguing as well.

Cluld you post a link to the Taj podcast?

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Reply #1407 posted 03/11/19 2:51pm

Ugot2shakesumt
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MoBettaBliss said:

PatrickS77 said:

ecnirp98 said:

So

So in your world it's ok for Adults to sleep with children? in any walk of life, if that happens, questions would be asked and need to be answered.

Michael admitted this happened, so I am going on a piece of information that Michael answered/admitted, allot of the other stuff is unproven as I said, only Michael could confirm, or some evidence would need to be produced.

But it wasn't any walk of life. I'm aware how it looks and know it's not a good idea, for both sides, in terms of people talking about it and yet I'm not so hung up on it, like many people are. It's highly unsual. Obviously. But if both want to do it, in a none sexual way obviously and the parents trust that person and have no problem with it, where is the harm, other than motherfuckers talking shit about it?? Of course, if they don't trust the person, wanna be on the safe side and/or have a bad feeling about it, but still do it, because, oh, well, it's Michael Jackson and they get something out of it, than obviously that's a different story.

Exactly. People get so star-struck and have so much invested in a celebrity that they can’t think straight

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Reply #1408 posted 03/11/19 3:59pm

RichardS

Free2BMe said:
CherryMoon57 said:

I am not sure who is promoting what here lol. I even had to look it up as I had never heard about this NAMBLA thing until you mentioned it!

I find it laughable and ironic that morons who are gullible enough to fall for the pedophilic FANTASIES of Robson and Safechuck can call someone irrational. In case, you haven’t figured it out, it is irrational to take the scripted words of two liars who are also perjurers, with no corroborating evidence of their lies. It is also irrational to believe liars who have changed their stories 6 times. I realize that haters don’t have deductive reasoning skills, but, is it too much to ask you lazy people to do some damn research for the evidence and FACTS. Stop being so gullible. You people are embarrassing.

Here is just one fact.

When Neverland was searched in November 2003 they found, in the same plastic bag, in the master bathroom, the following 3 items :-

1. Camp Cove - a book of photographs, including full frontal adult males

2. Scenes D'Interieur - book, including pictures of adult women, some sado-masochistic

3. Dress Up - Playacts and fantasies of childhood - book, including 3 photos of teenage boys naked.

None of this is illegal. They may be considered art books, or perhaps simply erotica, with photos and pictures by reputable artists and photographers.

But who keeps their erotic art books in a plastic bag on a shelf in the bathroom and for what purpose?

The teenage boys in the photos were, I'm assuming, not underage, so again, nothing criminal.

But to me this evidence alone (and there is other similar evidence) indicates that MJ had a sexual interest in teenage boys. This evidence alone does not prove a sexual interest in underage boys or molestation of anyone. But it makes for a very disturbing starting point for someone who spent nights alone with underage boys arond the same time.

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Reply #1409 posted 03/11/19 4:40pm

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RichardS said:

Free2BMe said:
CherryMoon57 said: I find it laughable and ironic that morons who are gullible enough to fall for the pedophilic FANTASIES of Robson and Safechuck can call someone irrational. In case, you haven’t figured it out, it is irrational to take the scripted words of two liars who are also perjurers, with no corroborating evidence of their lies. It is also irrational to believe liars who have changed their stories 6 times. I realize that haters don’t have deductive reasoning skills, but, is it too much to ask you lazy people to do some damn research for the evidence and FACTS. Stop being so gullible. You people are embarrassing.

Here is just one fact.

When Neverland was searched in November 2003 they found, in the same plastic bag, in the master bathroom, the following 3 items :-

1. Camp Cove - a book of photographs, including full frontal adult males

2. Scenes D'Interieur - book, including pictures of adult women, some sado-masochistic

3. Dress Up - Playacts and fantasies of childhood - book, including 3 photos of teenage boys naked.

None of this is illegal. They may be considered art books, or perhaps simply erotica, with photos and pictures by reputable artists and photographers.

But who keeps their erotic art books in a plastic bag on a shelf in the bathroom and for what purpose?

The teenage boys in the photos were, I'm assuming, not underage, so again, nothing criminal.

But to me this evidence alone (and there is other similar evidence) indicates that MJ had a sexual interest in teenage boys. This evidence alone does not prove a sexual interest in underage boys or molestation of anyone. But it makes for a very disturbing starting point for someone who spent nights alone with underage boys arond the same time.

Proof of any wrong-doing? No.

Casts a reasonable doubt? Yes.

VOTE....EARLY

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