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Reply #180 posted 03/07/18 8:34pm

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MattyJam said:

Meh.

Yes, it sounds like Prince. Big whoop. Prince was great because he didn't sound like anyone else. I don't see what's exciting about hearing another artist ape someone elses sound at the expense of their own individuality.

In fairness, there ARE many Prince songs that sound like other songs that came before. And Prince supposedly features on the Janelle Monae song so it's bound to have his imprint on it somewhere. Also, we know from her previous work that she has her own style and individuality. But it's also refreshing to hear old school influences on modern pop music, especially when most modern pop music is so fucking awful that generic, talentless record company creations are held aloft and looked upon as modern day equivalents of artists like Michael Jackson etc. So when you hear someone like Janelle Monae pay tribute to the great artists of yesteryear, but also keeping true to herself, it IS exciting because it reminds you that REAL music is not dead yet. There is hope that this type of music will catch on and perhaps influence the next generation of artists so we don't end up with yet more generic, talentless record company creations clogging up the airwaves and the charts.

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Reply #181 posted 03/07/18 8:37pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

EmmaMcG said:

MattyJam said: In fairness, there ARE many Prince songs that sound like other songs that came before. And Prince supposedly features on the Janelle Monae song so it's bound to have his imprint on it somewhere. Also, we know from her previous work that she has her own style and individuality. But it's also refreshing to hear old school influences on modern pop music, especially when most modern pop music is so fucking awful that generic, talentless record company creations are held aloft and looked upon as modern day equivalents of artists like Michael Jackson etc. So when you hear someone like Janelle Monae pay tribute to the great artists of yesteryear, but also keeping true to herself, it IS exciting because it reminds you that REAL music is not dead yet. There is hope that this type of music will catch on and perhaps influence the next generation of artists so we don't end up with yet more generic, talentless record company creations clogging up the airwaves and the charts.

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Reply #182 posted 03/08/18 5:47pm

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EmmaMcG said:

MattyJam said:

Meh.

Yes, it sounds like Prince. Big whoop. Prince was great because he didn't sound like anyone else. I don't see what's exciting about hearing another artist ape someone elses sound at the expense of their own individuality.

In fairness, there ARE many Prince songs that sound like other songs that came before. And Prince supposedly features on the Janelle Monae song so it's bound to have his imprint on it somewhere. Also, we know from her previous work that she has her own style and individuality. But it's also refreshing to hear old school influences on modern pop music, especially when most modern pop music is so fucking awful that generic, talentless record company creations are held aloft and looked upon as modern day equivalents of artists like Michael Jackson etc. So when you hear someone like Janelle Monae pay tribute to the great artists of yesteryear, but also keeping true to herself, it IS exciting because it reminds you that REAL music is not dead yet. There is hope that this type of music will catch on and perhaps influence the next generation of artists so we don't end up with yet more generic, talentless record company creations clogging up the airwaves and the charts.

So well said...

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Reply #183 posted 03/08/18 5:49pm

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cindymay said:

Janelle never said Prince wrote her song/songs on the album. She only said he helped her collecting sounds when she started working on Dirty Computer and that she misses him a lot. I think she is one of the few artists of the new generation to bring something different on the table and being her own persona and clearly Prince thought the same since he liked her to the point to feature on her previous album accepting to be produced by her team, something he wasn't usually inclined to do. I consider "Make me feel" her tribute to Prince and to the role he had in her life/career, being her mentor and all.

Sigh DJ Lenka already said this is a track that Prince gave her to play at a party a few years ago.

This is a Prince track. I am sure Janelle will tell more when the album comes out.

It is not a tribute it is a Prince track.

That would not suprise me...Despite the Fatman and Robin credits...the overall sound to my ear anyway sounds so much like Prince has touched more that just the SYnth...

You know...the whole thing is just a little bit..well behind the beat...

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Reply #184 posted 03/08/18 10:19pm

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I wouldn't be surprised if this IS a Prince penned track.

It sure sounds like one to be honest.

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But I remember Prince covering 'What If God Was One Of Us', the original (artists escapes me right now) and it already sounded so much like Prince.

'Oh Sheila' by Ready For The World back in '85 I think the same story.

And we can go on and on and on.

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So,

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I always try to stick to facts !

EVERYONE SHOULD !

For now we know nothing more.

Prince just hit the keys she said.

And maybe that's the truth, for ever on this song. smile

So, take it or leave there.

And let's wait with that 'forever' until the album is released, or there is more info.

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Ever come to think of it, that it could be a Prince pennend track givin' to her, but not legaly well organised by (the) Prince (camp) ?

Like, sharks could go after her right now for instance.

We all know Prince was very good in 'organising' his 'adminstration' (to put it softly). wink

U know...

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Reply #185 posted 03/09/18 1:45pm

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Not very good at all really is it.

She is one of those sorts of people who thinks swearing every 5 seconds shows her superior intellect.

Yet what it does show is her limits in using the English language.


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Reply #186 posted 03/09/18 5:29pm

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darkroman said:

Not very good at all really is it.

She is one of those sorts of people who thinks swearing every 5 seconds shows her superior intellect.

Yet what it does show is her limits in using the English language.


sad sad sad

Ah geez.

Get over the swearing already.

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Reply #187 posted 03/10/18 5:28am

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darkroman said:

Not very good at all really is it.

She is one of those sorts of people who thinks swearing every 5 seconds shows her superior intellect.

Yet what it does show is her limits in using the English language.


sad sad sad


Which also tells me that Prince didn't write the lyrics smile

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Reply #188 posted 03/10/18 11:20pm

Vannormal

CherryMoon57 said:

darkroman said:

Not very good at all really is it.

She is one of those sorts of people who thinks swearing every 5 seconds shows her superior intellect.

Yet what it does show is her limits in using the English language.


sad sad sad


Which also tells me that Prince didn't write the lyrics smile

Oh who says prince wouldn't be able to write a 'swear' word for someone else ?

He wasn't a saint, he was just human (although dipped in a JW sauce unfortunately, but less lately) :-O

wink

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Reply #189 posted 03/11/18 5:12am

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Vannormal said:

CherryMoon57 said:


Which also tells me that Prince didn't write the lyrics smile

Oh who says prince wouldn't be able to write a 'swear' word for someone else ?

He wasn't a saint, he was just human (although dipped in a JW sauce unfortunately, but less lately) :-O

wink


He wasn't a saint but I very much doubt he would do that... The fact that the song is being released a long time after his passing says a lot; why not before or soon after they were working on it and why wait so long to release it?

I am guessing the production team had to add/build a lot around the initial Prince's input because there probably wasn't much from him to start with. My take is that Prince and Janelle probably just messed around on the keyboard together one day and that's now turned into 'we wrote this song together' kind of thing and she is trying to maximise profit from it, using her own (or perhaps someone else's) 'profanity and sex sells' way now.

And with Prince out of the way... anything goes.


[Edited 3/11/18 5:15am]

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Reply #190 posted 03/11/18 9:45am

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CherryMoon57 said:

Vannormal said:

Oh who says prince wouldn't be able to write a 'swear' word for someone else ?

He wasn't a saint, he was just human (although dipped in a JW sauce unfortunately, but less lately) :-O

wink


He wasn't a saint but I very much doubt he would do that... The fact that the song is being released a long time after his passing says a lot; why not before or soon after they were working on it and why wait so long to release it?

I am guessing the production team had to add/build a lot around the initial Prince's input because there probably wasn't much from him to start with. My take is that Prince and Janelle probably just messed around on the keyboard together one day and that's now turned into 'we wrote this song together' kind of thing and she is trying to maximise profit from it, using her own (or perhaps someone else's) 'profanity and sex sells' way now.

And with Prince out of the way... anything goes.


[Edited 3/11/18 5:15am]

LIES! I know a Prince beat when I hear it. That is ALL Prince's studio wizardry. Prince already revealed that beat to a stunned Paisley Park PurplePartyPeople crowd before his transitioning into the afterworld.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #191 posted 03/11/18 11:04am

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It seems to be a trend on here now to bash artists who incorporate a strong old school sound to their music; artists like Childish Gambino and Bruno. I hope people don't suddenly decide to turn on Janelle next for daring to call back and reference the past.

[Edited 3/11/18 11:04am]

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Reply #192 posted 03/11/18 11:07am

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MotownSubdivision said:

It seems to be a trend on here now to bash artists who incorporate a strong old school sound to their music; artists like Childish Gambino and Bruno. I hope people don't suddenly decide to turn on Janelle next for daring to call back and reference the past.

[Edited 3/11/18 11:04am]

Nonsense. People like GOOD musc not B.S.

Gambino = good music.

Marrs = garbage wrapped around what was good music.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #193 posted 03/11/18 11:10am

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Graycap23 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

It seems to be a trend on here now to bash artists who incorporate a strong old school sound to their music; artists like Childish Gambino and Bruno. I hope people don't suddenly decide to turn on Janelle next for daring to call back and reference the past.

[Edited 3/11/18 11:04am]

Nonsense. People like GOOD musc not B.S.

Gambino = good music.

Marrs = garbage wrapped around what was good music.

Yes, your post is nonsense.

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Reply #194 posted 03/11/18 3:41pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

CherryMoon57 said:


He wasn't a saint but I very much doubt he would do that... The fact that the song is being released a long time after his passing says a lot; why not before or soon after they were working on it and why wait so long to release it?

I am guessing the production team had to add/build a lot around the initial Prince's input because there probably wasn't much from him to start with. My take is that Prince and Janelle probably just messed around on the keyboard together one day and that's now turned into 'we wrote this song together' kind of thing and she is trying to maximise profit from it, using her own (or perhaps someone else's) 'profanity and sex sells' way now.

And with Prince out of the way... anything goes.


[Edited 3/11/18 5:15am]

LIES! I know a Prince beat when I hear it. That is ALL Prince's studio wizardry. Prince already revealed that beat to a stunned Paisley Park PurplePartyPeople crowd before his transitioning into the afterworld.


Really? Then why is he only credited for the synthesizer???

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Reply #195 posted 03/11/18 5:36pm

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CherryMoon57 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

LIES! I know a Prince beat when I hear it. That is ALL Prince's studio wizardry. Prince already revealed that beat to a stunned Paisley Park PurplePartyPeople crowd before his transitioning into the afterworld.


Really? Then why is he only credited for the synthesizer???

Prince wrote and virtually played ALL the instruments on The Time's first three albums. So maybe this is what he wanted credited.

The instrumental version was played @ Paisley Park when he was still on earth by his request.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #196 posted 03/12/18 3:13am

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Graycap23 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

It seems to be a trend on here now to bash artists who incorporate a strong old school sound to their music; artists like Childish Gambino and Bruno. I hope people don't suddenly decide to turn on Janelle next for daring to call back and reference the past.

[Edited 3/11/18 11:04am]

Nonsense. People like GOOD musc not B.S.

Gambino = good music.

Marrs = garbage wrapped around what was good music.

Mars pulled off great album with 3 huge worldwide hits: That's What i Like, 24K Magic, Finesse. Calling it garbage is offensively ignorant.

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Reply #197 posted 03/12/18 5:34am

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CherryMoon57 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

LIES! I know a Prince beat when I hear it. That is ALL Prince's studio wizardry. Prince already revealed that beat to a stunned Paisley Park PurplePartyPeople crowd before his transitioning into the afterworld.


Really? Then why is he only credited for the synthesizer???

Once again for 1,000th time DJ. Lenka has said that Prince gave her this track to play at a party a few years ago. Prince did entire albums for people without his name appearing anywhere in the credits.

He gave away tunes and sometimes his name appeared in the actual copyright of the song but not in the album credits.

Stop being hard headed and enjoy that Prince is on the charts lol

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Reply #198 posted 03/12/18 5:36am

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Graycap23 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

It seems to be a trend on here now to bash artists who incorporate a strong old school sound to their music; artists like Childish Gambino and Bruno. I hope people don't suddenly decide to turn on Janelle next for daring to call back and reference the past.

[Edited 3/11/18 11:04am]

Nonsense. People like GOOD musc not B.S.

Gambino = good music.

Marrs = garbage wrapped around what was good music.

You have a problem with Bruno but no problem with that non-singing Gambino who should be sued by Bootsy for stealing " I'd Rather Be With You"

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Reply #199 posted 03/12/18 5:39am

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CherryMoon57 said:

Vannormal said:

Oh who says prince wouldn't be able to write a 'swear' word for someone else ?

He wasn't a saint, he was just human (although dipped in a JW sauce unfortunately, but less lately) :-O

wink


He wasn't a saint but I very much doubt he would do that... The fact that the song is being released a long time after his passing says a lot; why not before or soon after they were working on it and why wait so long to release it?

I am guessing the production team had to add/build a lot around the initial Prince's input because there probably wasn't much from him to start with. My take is that Prince and Janelle probably just messed around on the keyboard together one day and that's now turned into 'we wrote this song together' kind of thing and she is trying to maximise profit from it, using her own (or perhaps someone else's) 'profanity and sex sells' way now.

And with Prince out of the way... anything goes.


[Edited 3/11/18 5:15am]

You do not like Janelle. We get it. Move on. Nothing you wrote here makes any sense when people who were at the party are telling you they heard this track. If Prince gave her the track she is free to do what she wants lyrically.

You realize that Prince had thousands of unrealeashed tracks and I am sure many artist he worked with have unrealeashed stuff.

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Reply #200 posted 03/12/18 6:45am

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laurarichardson said:

Graycap23 said:

Nonsense. People like GOOD musc not B.S.

Gambino = good music.

Marrs = garbage wrapped around what was good music.

You have a problem with Bruno but no problem with that non-singing Gambino who should be sued by Bootsy for stealing " I'd Rather Be With You"

Sued? U are right bit what u seem 2 be missing is his execution of the song. Gambino pulled it off.....while Marrs sounds like a funk fraud.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #201 posted 03/12/18 9:38am

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Graycap23 said:

laurarichardson said:

You have a problem with Bruno but no problem with that non-singing Gambino who should be sued by Bootsy for stealing " I'd Rather Be With You"

Sued? U are right bit what u seem 2 be missing is his execution of the song. Gambino pulled it off.....while Marrs sounds like a funk fraud.

So does Gambino.

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Reply #202 posted 03/12/18 11:28am

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Tried to get thru Awaken My Love like:

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Had 2 quick switch 2 the latest Tribe album like:

if it was just a dream, call me a dreamer 2
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Reply #203 posted 03/12/18 4:40pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

CherryMoon57 said:


He wasn't a saint but I very much doubt he would do that... The fact that the song is being released a long time after his passing says a lot; why not before or soon after they were working on it and why wait so long to release it?

I am guessing the production team had to add/build a lot around the initial Prince's input because there probably wasn't much from him to start with. My take is that Prince and Janelle probably just messed around on the keyboard together one day and that's now turned into 'we wrote this song together' kind of thing and she is trying to maximise profit from it, using her own (or perhaps someone else's) 'profanity and sex sells' way now.

And with Prince out of the way... anything goes.


[Edited 3/11/18 5:15am]

LIES! I know a Prince beat when I hear it. That is ALL Prince's studio wizardry. Prince already revealed that beat to a stunned Paisley Park PurplePartyPeople crowd before his transitioning into the afterworld.


Excuse me, I think you dropped this earlier:


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Reply #204 posted 03/12/18 4:48pm

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laurarichardson said:

CherryMoon57 said:


He wasn't a saint but I very much doubt he would do that... The fact that the song is being released a long time after his passing says a lot; why not before or soon after they were working on it and why wait so long to release it?

I am guessing the production team had to add/build a lot around the initial Prince's input because there probably wasn't much from him to start with. My take is that Prince and Janelle probably just messed around on the keyboard together one day and that's now turned into 'we wrote this song together' kind of thing and she is trying to maximise profit from it, using her own (or perhaps someone else's) 'profanity and sex sells' way now.

And with Prince out of the way... anything goes.


[Edited 3/11/18 5:15am]

You do not like Janelle. We get it. Move on. Nothing you wrote here makes any sense when people who were at the party are telling you they heard this track. If Prince gave her the track she is free to do what she wants lyrically.

You realize that Prince had thousands of unrealeashed tracks and I am sure many artist he worked with have unrealeashed stuff.


Of course she is, but that still doesn't mean it is ethical. Personally, I am not even convinced that he really 'gave' her the so-called 'track' in the first place.

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Reply #205 posted 03/12/18 5:06pm

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CherryMoon57 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

LIES! I know a Prince beat when I hear it. That is ALL Prince's studio wizardry. Prince already revealed that beat to a stunned Paisley Park PurplePartyPeople crowd before his transitioning into the afterworld.


Excuse me, I think you dropped this earlier:


Yes I did! I was referring to the PROFANITY LACED lyrics not the instrumental beat(that Prince revealed a few years ago).

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #206 posted 03/12/18 5:16pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

CherryMoon57 said:


Excuse me, I think you dropped this earlier:


Yes I did! I was referring to the PROFANITY LACED lyrics not the instrumental beat(that Prince revealed a few years ago).


Don't just randomly respond 'LIES!' if you agree with parts of my post then.

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Reply #207 posted 03/12/18 10:05pm

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Interesting that Janelle has profanity in this Prince associated song when she doesn't typically use it in her music. I listened to her entire Electric Lady album today and didn't notice any swear words. Of course it is possible that I missed one or two, as I was listening first and foremost for pleasure! Doesn't make sense she would start doing so for a Prince related song.
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Reply #208 posted 03/13/18 3:57am

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CherryMoon57 said:

laurarichardson said:

You do not like Janelle. We get it. Move on. Nothing you wrote here makes any sense when people who were at the party are telling you they heard this track. If Prince gave her the track she is free to do what she wants lyrically.

You realize that Prince had thousands of unrealeashed tracks and I am sure many artist he worked with have unrealeashed stuff.


Of course she is, but that still doesn't mean it is ethical. Personally, I am not even convinced that he really 'gave' her the so-called 'track' in the first place.

I guess the D.J. and other guest at the party all got together in a meeting to back up Janelle.

As far as ethical if he gave her the music and her job was to come up with the lyrics how the hell is that unethical?

He gave her the song to do as she wanted and if he did not want her to have say on the lyrics he could have written some for her.

Once again stop hating on any women Prince spent two minutes with.

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Reply #209 posted 03/13/18 4:26am

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laurarichardson said:

CherryMoon57 said:


Of course she is, but that still doesn't mean it is ethical. Personally, I am not even convinced that he really 'gave' her the so-called 'track' in the first place.

I guess the D.J. and other guest at the party all got together in a meeting to back up Janelle.

As far as ethical if he gave her the music and her job was to come up with the lyrics how the hell is that unethical?

He gave her the song to do as she wanted and if he did not want her to have say on the lyrics he could have written some for her.

Once again stop hating on any women Prince spent two minutes with.


Hate is a strong word... I am just not that excited about the fact that so many of those who spent 2 minutes with Prince try so hard to profit from him.

Janelle clearly is very successful in her 'project' though, and (to my regret, since I find her singing rather annoying) we hear her key title several times a day on our national radios.

Perhaps her and her 'team' could push their 'influence' a little further and help radios play more of the many actual Prince tracks other than her rip off of them or the usual same three that are only played once in a blue moon (ie. 1999, When Doves Cry & Let's Go Crazy).

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