No doubt the 90's was it for definable musical decades, or definable decades period.

Fran Lebowitz blames the young. She claims it's the job of the young to be innovative and come up with new things.

rogifan said:

Ouch. I didn’t watch. One of the last radio programs Nikki Sixx did he had Slash on. They talked about how there’s no discernible decades for music anymore. Here right. Everything just kind of blurs together now. Can anyone really say what 2000-2009 was musically? Or 2010-current? How much of it is really memorable? Maybe some individual artists but as decades not really.

Totally agree and if you say it people say the same things "your not embracing new music" etc... your not letting go etc.... I am so tired of hearing that argument from milennials who are so clueless to anything before the internet like that was the god damn stone ages or something. It has nothing to even do with whos good and bad and this and that, there is no definition of a time now, no era, i mean even the era of "britney" which to me was the last defining era of something in music, there is nothing now because everything is so labelled and put in a box that no one has a vision now, they think they do, but they dont.

There could be a number of factors:

1. Demographically, Boomers are still a huge chunk of the TV audience. As they're nearing or in retirement, they have little if any interest in the music being made by their grandchildren's or great-grandchildren's generations. On the other hand, X'ers are a smaller slice of the audience and many of them aren't much more interested in the hitmakers of this generation than their parents/grandparents are.

2. The album simply isn't as important as it was even in the 2000's.

3. It is easier than ever before for people to tune out of the mainstream and tune in to whatever their specific tastes are.

There's good music being made in this decade. Much of it is under the radar. I listen to more new artists in 2018 than I did in 2013 or 2008. I simply don't care about which acts/material the Grammys choose to validate, even if they are artists like K-Dot whom I like.

I pretty much gave up on the Grammys when Joshua Tree beat out Sign O' The Times for AOTY. 30 years ago. I've watched maybe 3 times since.

I didn't even know that the Grammys came on last night I haven't watched a Grammy show in years.Too much terrible music nowadays.

I haven't watched a Grammy Show all the way thru since maybe 1992 or 1993. But, I'm glad Bruno was the big winner last night.

Well the Grammys have many instances of proving how out of touch and downright stupid they are by the various blunders they've made over the years in (not) awarding certain artists. However, since at least 2014 there's been a problem that's been vocalized every year.

2014: Macklemore almost sweeping the hip hop categories over Kendrick

2015: Beck winning AotY

2016: Taylor Swift winning AotY (Kenny gets screwed again)

2017: Adele winning AotY (or rather, Beyonce not winning AotY); the noms being a joke altogether (Bieber gets nominated for AotY but not Rihanna?)

2018: Remains to be seen but the noms seemed to be something many complained about

Discounting this year, that's 4 straight shows where the bad outweighed the good. I'm guessing people just got sick of it and decided not to waste their time. I know I wasn't going too.

EDIT: I guess a notable issue with the Grammys this year were Tina Turner and Queen receiving deserved Lifetime Achievement Awards only for them not to be televised...

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Beyonce has won more Grammys than Prince.Let that sink in for a moment.That's reason enough to not watch this show.

SoulAlive said:

Beyonce has won more Grammys than Prince.Let that sink in for a moment.That's reason enough to not watch this show.

Her, Jay and Kanye. While none of them have won the award, they've won more than their fair share of Grammys which is certainly more than enough to make up for not winning AotY.

I'm glad, this show has descended into the depths of music hell. Even in the 80's when MJ, P, Madonna and Bruce ruled as pop stars I dont recall them being nominated so often and in every single category. And good God, this utter worship of all things hip-hop is sickening, how many times in a row do these shite acts get to perform, it feels like a straight deade thatallthe same people perform or present.

Musician9 said:

I'm glad, this show has descended into the depths of music hell. Even in the 80's when MJ, P, Madonna and Bruce ruled as pop stars I dont recall them being nominated so often and in every single category. And good God, this utter worship of all things hip-hop is sickening, how many times in a row do these shite acts get to perform, it feels like a straight deade thatallthe same people perform or present.

Well the 80's had far more talent being represented than now.

Hip hop is the biggest genre in the world and has been for a long time. Traditional rockstars are almost non-existent in the mainstream because rappers took their place. It shouldn't be surprising that hip hop is so prominently featured.

Well in the mainstream world, MUSIC is not important like it was, it just is NOT. Wherever it all went we can all debate that shit till we explode, but whether its because music does not sell, or there are so many other forms of media, why would i watch you on CBS when you stream a concert and post snap chat shit 24/7 so in turn I think artists are killing themselves slowly.

rogifan said:

Ouch. I didn’t watch. One of the last radio programs Nikki Sixx did he had Slash on. They talked about how there’s no discernible decades for music anymore. Here right. Everything just kind of blurs together now. Can anyone really say what 2000-2009 was musically? Or 2010-current? How much of it is really memorable? Maybe some individual artists but as decades not really.

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Yeah, it basically sucked. I watched a few performers and it was a very painful experience. Last night's Grammys makes American Idol look entertaining! Miley Cyrus with Elton John.......OH GOD, my ears!!

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What the hell was Sting doing there? They don't have enough credible artists to perform or what?

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Bruno Mars.......

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Music today has no soul.......lifeless.

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I remember the day when artists were cutting-edge, and different (i.e., Prince)....everything you see today just seems so old, boring......meh!!

lastdecember said:

Well in the mainstream world, MUSIC is not important like it was, it just is NOT. Wherever it all went we can all debate that shit till we explode, but whether its because music does not sell, or there are so many other forms of media, why would i watch you on CBS when you stream a concert and post snap chat shit 24/7 so in turn I think artists are killing themselves slowly.

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Exactly! The world is so fast-paced today and people are whipping-out music faster than you can say Mississippi.......we have the technology to create music at a moments notice. It's all over the internet.....lots of good musicians out there, doing well and working with small labels. It's kinda scary for these big music execs, when you think about it. I think less people will sign with big labels anymore. We really only have a handful of artists that are selling record-number albums......Bruno, Rihanna, Beyonce, and the like......but that's about it. They don't have much.

MotownSubdivision said:

Musician9 said:

I'm glad, this show has descended into the depths of music hell. Even in the 80's when MJ, P, Madonna and Bruce ruled as pop stars I dont recall them being nominated so often and in every single category. And good God, this utter worship of all things hip-hop is sickening, how many times in a row do these shite acts get to perform, it feels like a straight deade thatallthe same people perform or present.

Well the 80's had far more talent being represented than now.

Hip hop is the biggest genre in the world and has been for a long time. Traditional rockstars are almost non-existent in the mainstream because rappers took their place. It shouldn't be surprising that hip hop is so prominently featured.

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OMG, YES!!

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We had a big explosion of new music in the 1980s........I'm not sure that will ever happen again.

Musician9 said:

I'm glad, this show has descended into the depths of music hell. Even in the 80's when MJ, P, Madonna and Bruce ruled as pop stars I dont recall them being nominated so often and in every single category. And good God, this utter worship of all things hip-hop is sickening, how many times in a row do these shite acts get to perform, it feels like a straight deade thatallthe same people perform or present.

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Musician9 said:

I get the whole "you're old and don't want to listen to new music" argument, what other position can one take when I say "where's the mind-blowing music today?"

Fact is that I do hear great new music today, it just doesn't get national or popular recognition. It's a business problem, not an artist problem. Show me something that I can feel and I'll buy it, I love music.

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cloveringold85 said:

lastdecember said:

Well in the mainstream world, MUSIC is not important like it was, it just is NOT. Wherever it all went we can all debate that shit till we explode, but whether its because music does not sell, or there are so many other forms of media, why would i watch you on CBS when you stream a concert and post snap chat shit 24/7 so in turn I think artists are killing themselves slowly.

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Exactly! The world is so fast-paced today and people are whipping-out music faster than you can say Mississippi.......we have the technology to create music at a moments notice. It's all over the internet.....lots of good musicians out there, doing well and working with small labels. It's kinda scary for these big music execs, when you think about it. I think less people will sign with big labels anymore. We really only have a handful of artists that are selling record-number albums......Bruno, Rihanna, Beyonce, and the like......but that's about it. They don't have much.

the problem is also the fact that there is no organization. We can argue that labels are bad and they are now for the most part because of how they have to function, its like an assembly line for most, in and out next etc.... But its hard to organize when music is all over the place, yes there is good stuff all over the place but also marketing is a huge problem, social media is actually a problem too because for me social media is just as bad as a label people share the same crap, you know, i mean all i see is a million cardi b things who cares about this person. But we also have an AGE-IST society and that is a huge issue too, look at label like Frontiers Records this is where all the older artists put their stuff out now because they own it there is little overhead and they can call the shots, they market to their base and thats that. But youll never hear them on the radio nor will an award show let them on because its about ratings, really well all the POPULAR cats were on last night, like Bruno and Jay Z etc..and the ratings sucked. Time to mix it up, there are more females in this industry besides Beyonce and yet every year i see her and the other females are like decorations and yet females are pretty much what keep the industry from going under because of sales. So it has to change or just let it crash.

SoulAlive said:

Beyonce has won more Grammys than Prince.Let that sink in for a moment.That's reason enough to not watch this show.

Beyonce surpassed Aretha for the black female with the most Grammy wins. It's amazing how long it took (decades) Aretha to amass her Grammy Awards and it took Beyonce a very short period of time to surpass her. That's one of the main reasons I lost respect for the show and the committe who vote on these awards.

cloveringold85 said:

Musician9 said:

kitbradley said:

rogifan said:

Musician9 said:

I'm glad, this show has descended into the depths of music hell. Even in the 80's when MJ, P, Madonna and Bruce ruled as pop stars I dont recall them being nominated so often and in every single category. And good God, this utter worship of all things hip-hop is sickening, how many times in a row do these shite acts get to perform, it feels like a straight deade thatallthe same people perform or present.

This is interesting because The NY Times just ran a piece claiming the Grammys are racist.

The Grammy wasn't designed to embrace Rock & Roll let alone Hip-Hop / Rap. Again, Frank Sinatra and the old guard invited the Grammys awards to promote "real" music and to stave off Rock & Roll. No one is going to squeeze blood from a Grammy. For the New York Times to claim, the Grammys are out of touch; when NYT has the Grammy's ever been progressive? When?

Its a promo for the major labels(or should I say conglomerates) who aren't even relevant, that much now. They kids are listen to music, they just aren't listening much to wha these conglomerats are pushing out.

I watched the entire show and enjoyed it.

My favorite was Kesha, what a very moving performance. All that she has been thru with Dr. Luke.

SoulAlive said:

Beyonce has won more Grammys than Prince.Let that sink in for a moment.That's reason enough to not watch this show.

I'll see your Beyoncé and raise you Bruno Mars, who has more Grammys than George Michael and Bowie--combined.

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