laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yeah, it basically sucked. I watched a few performers and it was a very painful experience. Last night's Grammys makes American Idol look entertaining! Miley Cyrus with Elton John.......OH GOD, my ears!!

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What the hell was Sting doing there? They don't have enough credible artists to perform or what?

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Bruno Mars.......

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Music today has no soul.......lifeless.

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I remember the day when artists were cutting-edge, and different (i.e., Prince)....everything you see today just seems so old, boring......meh!!

That was such a horrible performance for Sting. I think he should retire. I actually like him and felt embarraseed for him. Older artist need to say away from this show like Prince did and only show up if they have a project to promote.

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Sting looks pretty good for a 66 year-old Man. Trivial was explaining to me that Sting was there "Englishman in NY", because it was the first Grammys in NYC in 15-years, so I guess that's why they had him perform. I get that.......but, not the Shaggy part, LOL

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I am pissed that U2 performed and there was no mention of Dolores O'Riordan who just passed away on January 15th. I don't think she was mentioned the entire evening.......really sad.

namepeace said:

paisleypark4 said:

I dont understand how people complaiing about something they don't watch and music they dont listen to. What you even commenting for then?

The argument is valid because it is older people saying these things, comparing people to the 80's and 90's. Then when asked..oh i havent watched it since 1991. What the hell you even commenting for? Go talk about Matlock reruns, sit down. I'm 35 and I listened to every single album that was nominated for album of the year and they ALL were good. There was alot of good music that came out this year, quit being old fogies and join the conversation, not distance yourself.

Hold on there, whippersnapper.

Some of us old fogies know a lot of new music, by new artists. Much of it was not recognized on Grammy night. Quality music has become quite decentralized, you can't find it all on the radio anymore.

The OP issue was, why Grammy ratings were down. Some people make the claim that it's because music is terrible today, which is not true. Others say they don't watch because the artists they listen to are not being recognized or awarded by the Grammys.

Take a look at some of the Grammy winners in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Some of the choices look just as bad as the Macklemores of the 2010s. That's another reason why the "biggest night in music" is tuned out by a lot of heavy music buyers.

Now get off my lawn while I yell at this cloud.

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^^That was a funny post!

RodeoSchro said:

paisleypark4 said:

She's got the IT factor.

Maybe, but she sure doesn't have any musical talent.

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Cardi B.........

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this guy has it right....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTFkSjX3b8U

PennyPurple said:

I watched the entire show and enjoyed it.

My favorite was Kesha, what a very moving performance. All that she has been thru with Dr. Luke.

I saw that... the song was horrible.. the singing was horrible.... the content was blaringly pandering...and seemed very insincere.

2045RadicalMattZ said:

PennyPurple said:

I watched the entire show and enjoyed it.

My favorite was Kesha, what a very moving performance. All that she has been thru with Dr. Luke.

I saw that... the song was horrible.. the singing was horrible.... the content was blaringly pandering...and seemed very insincere.

We must not have watched the same thing then.

Her performance was very insincere? I don't agree.

Not surprised to hear that, we've joked about the gammies being irrelevant for a long time ("Wow! An awards statue....aww, it's a grammy"), but it might be a deeper thing with people generally being over the entertainment industry self-fellating itself in general. They tried to spice it up with some #metoo crap but that's so 2017 now and they can't fake beefs between people all the time since they're running out of lip-synching mannequins that are recognisable, the turnover with manufactured nigh-cons is just yikes nowadays.

The Prince fans no longer watch. lol

luvsexy4all said:

this guy has it right....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTFkSjX3b8U

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This is why I don't like watching award shows anymore. They are satanic rituals. I don't remember award shows being like this when I was a kid (symbolism), but maybe I just didn't see it?

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This guy is good too and funny as hell, LOL I laughed my arse off when he started talking about JayZ's hair, LOL

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https://www.youtube.com/w...wipQnzdF14

spacedolphin said:

Not surprised to hear that, we've joked about the gammies being irrelevant for a long time ("Wow! An awards statue....aww, it's a grammy"), but it might be a deeper thing with people generally being over the entertainment industry self-fellating itself in general. They tried to spice it up with some #metoo crap but that's so 2017 now and they can't fake beefs between people all the time since they're running out of lip-synching mannequins that are recognisable, the turnover with manufactured nigh-cons is just yikes nowadays.

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I agree. I also think it may have something to do with our internet culture. Young people don't have the attention span -- if something does not interest them within 3-seconds, they aren't going to watch it, LOL

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Not trying to offend anyone, but it's true, even with older folks (myself included)!

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I think we live in a fast-paced world and we have to filter-out the unimportant stuff.

2freaky4church1 said:

The Prince fans no longer watch. lol

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Now.......THIS is a Grammy Performance!!

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https://www.youtube.com/w...vbIbRMHirs

It was 1 of the best!

cloveringold85 said:

Now.......THIS is a Grammy Performance!!

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https://www.youtube.com/w...vbIbRMHirs

PennyPurple said:

It was 1 of the best!

cloveringold85 said:

Now.......THIS is a Grammy Performance!!

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https://www.youtube.com/w...vbIbRMHirs

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I will never forget that moment; I had chills going down my spine!

cloveringold85 said:

Now.......THIS is a Grammy Performance!!

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https://www.youtube.com/w...vbIbRMHirs

You mean THE Grammy Performance!!!

As for the ratings I think people just slept on them this year. Ratings have been high for the past 8-9 years.

paisleypark4 said:

RodeoSchro said:

This is what happens when someone like Cardi B is classified as "talent".

She's got the IT factor.

Yes she does. Lots of ass for porno.

I don't get her music at all and really don't understand what the fuck

she is saying.

I did not watch but I pre-set my DVR in advance, then on Saturday I deleted the setting..LOL..There was NO reason for me to watch the Ceremony LIVE or recorded...Propers to the Big Winners...

It has nothing to do with the "there is better music" out there you just have to search, that is a given, we can apply that thinking and reasoning to many times, the problem is the narrow focus of the industry because of its idea of thinking it knows. Problem is also SOCIAL MEDIA, everyone (pretty much) on that stage at that show is 24/7 in everyones face, Why do I need to see Cardi B when she is all over twitter and facebook and instagram and snap chat etc....Remember how LABELS complained about PRINCE saturating the market, WELL todays artists are over saturating the market NOT with music but with their "brand" their gimmicks, hype, scandals etc....And even the "Political" statements made, people are tired of hearing it, regardless if they are on your side and despise Trump and things he has done, I want to see a TV show with awards and music, not hear over and over about where you stand. I mean if one artist is making a statement like say u2 back in the day, but now every artist thinks because they have a single out they also have a platform. I am already hearing that networks might force or at least restrict artists, actors, actresses etc...to saying anything outside of what the show is for because people have political exhaustion at this point.

namepeace said:

paisleypark4 said:

I dont understand how people complaiing about something they don't watch and music they dont listen to. What you even commenting for then?

The argument is valid because it is older people saying these things, comparing people to the 80's and 90's. Then when asked..oh i havent watched it since 1991. What the hell you even commenting for? Go talk about Matlock reruns, sit down. I'm 35 and I listened to every single album that was nominated for album of the year and they ALL were good. There was alot of good music that came out this year, quit being old fogies and join the conversation, not distance yourself.

Hold on there, whippersnapper.

Some of us old fogies know a lot of new music, by new artists. Much of it was not recognized on Grammy night. Quality music has become quite decentralized, you can't find it all on the radio anymore.

The OP issue was, why Grammy ratings were down. Some people make the claim that it's because music is terrible today, which is not true. Others say they don't watch because the artists they listen to are not being recognized or awarded by the Grammys.

Take a look at some of the Grammy winners in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Some of the choices look just as bad as the Macklemores of the 2010s. That's another reason why the "biggest night in music" is tuned out by a lot of heavy music buyers.

Now get off my lawn while I yell at this cloud.

cloveringold85 said:

PennyPurple said:

It was 1 of the best!

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I will never forget that moment; I had chills going down my spine!

So is this...


Damn near cried at the end of this, couldnt believe it

luvsexy4all said:

this guy has it right....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTFkSjX3b8U

Hysterical. Schmoney is my new favorite shape shift word.

lastdecember said:

Remember how LABELS complained about PRINCE saturating the market, WELL todays artists are over saturating the market NOT with music but with their "brand" their gimmicks, hype, scandals etc....

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Does this have to do with their sponsorships being more lucrative (to them) than their music? "DJ Khaled" for example is basically bankrolled by Snapchat.

StrangeButTrue said:

lastdecember said:

Remember how LABELS complained about PRINCE saturating the market, WELL todays artists are over saturating the market NOT with music but with their "brand" their gimmicks, hype, scandals etc....

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Does this have to do with their sponsorships being more lucrative (to them) than their music? "DJ Khaled" for example is basically bankrolled by Snapchat.

Totally he is someone that is depending on LIKES and clicks and views, I could not tell you one thing that he has done

MotownSubdivision said:

rogifan said:

Yep. That new song by Sting and Shaggy is awful. And it sounds like every other song Shaggy has sung on. What was the point of Elton John and Miley Cyrus? The NY Times called the Grammys racist but I disagree. There’s plenty of indie rock music that doesn’t get the attention it deserves either.

The Grammys can still be racist regardless.

Given that Stevie Wonder won AOTY 3 times in the 70s (with many songs of social commentary included), I don't hink you can chalk it up simply to "racism". And as someone who was around in the 1970s, I don't think there was LESS racism then as opposed to now...

What the Grammys DO have is a bias towards musicianship and songwriting, and a lot of the older members don't see Hip-Hop/Rap acts (or even Beyonce) as "real musicians" or "real songwriters", with their reliance on sampling, programming, and 10 writers listed on every song.

laurarichardson said:

paisleypark4 said:

She's got the IT factor.

She has boobs and ass. That is all.

You can take the stripper out of the Bronx, but you cant...

jjhunsecker said:

MotownSubdivision said:

if only the estate would release 5 albums of his at once