PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I'm very surprised to see you talking this way. You always seem to take a empathetic approach to these sensitive subjects, until now.

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Try to educate yourself on the subject of Anxiety. Lots of people need anti-anxiety medication to help them cope with stress or a traumatic event.

i know all about it, didn't i say i hate being around people? I don't really like people much and i don't feel comfortable around them because i don't trust them, I don't need a pill for it though. I've said it since prince died but htis country has a problem with drugs, we have a problem with pain, part of it is that we're just a buncha babies. you don't need a pill for every little ache.

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Well, unfortunately for you, you don't understand depression and someone who needs treatment and therapy for it. Some people go through a traumatic event in their life, or abuse, or emotional problems or whatever, and they need help. Is there something wrong with that?

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You stated that you don't like people or trust them, so that suggests to me that you suffer from paranoia. I guess if you don't surround yourself with other people, you are devoid of any stressful (potentially) situations, thus you are never stressed-out. I guess you live a great life without any problems or stress!

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Why do you think people are out to get you?

GustavoRibas said:

And EVEN if he committed suicide after he had a discussion with his wife, she wouldnt be the responsible for it. It would be only one of the factors. The basic cause is still depression.

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True! Chris was an adult, therefore, he ultimately chose to take that extra dose of Ativan.

TrivialPursuit said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Wow! That was beneath the belt.

I agree. It's an unreasonable and inconsiderate thing to say about a situation that no one knows the dynamics or details of at all. My Prince GIF was in response to the former two posters playfully going at each other. It went dark after that.

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Yes, I got it. Good visual.

PennyPurple said:

PeteSilas said:

don't worry about me, i wasn't talking to you. guy asked a question i answered, now you want to just come with tired insult about my mental health. internet is full of those just because someone can't handle or don't like what someone said. What would really help is if we changed society for the better, less nastiness, less boorishness and people wouldn't feel the need to take a pill or drink or drug. No one wants to look at that because they're too brainwashed. Of course a person is going to be miserable trying to live this lifestyle we do here, of course they are going to be stressed, it's a sick way of living. That's why I get rid of people who feel they have to be demanding, have to be manipulative and have to have their way come hell or high water, even if they are family. I'll say one more thing and I'm done. I've known people from other generations and they weren't like this, they weren't entitled, they weren't expecting for everything to be perfect and they did not try to play with anyone's head. today, that's all anyone tries to do, things are just too complicated so you take a pill "I think I know a better way" to quote the great man himself.

When you are on an open forum, you are talking to all of us. You have blamed it on the wife, and in the process of blaming her, you also insulted women. You seem to think that because you are 'strong' enough and don't take meds, that everyone else should be strong enough not to take meds. You said his wife helped cause his retardation.

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Again, glad you don't have to take anything and can handle things yourself, some people like Prince, and Chris and many others who suffer from depression and anxiety need medicine to help them. There is no shame in that.

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PennyPurple said:

PeteSilas said:

Now Pete, Don't try to back pedal on what you've said. Please see below. Now if he was sober & clean the past few years, and when he talked to his wife after the show, and was slurring his words, if I was the wife, I'd be concerned and a little pissed too, especially if she thought he was falling back into his old habits. The things you've said on this thread are inexcusable. Yeah, I'm glad you can deal with your anxiety and depression on your own without the use of meds. There are a lot of people who can't. It's called mental illiness and people like you, are why there is such a stigma involved in this disease, and some don't seek the help that they need.

PeteSilas said:

i figured a woman and an arguement would be behind it. I don't know why men can't just stay away from someone who wants to play with your head. always been easy for me.

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PeteSilas said:

ya, i know it pisses off feminists, everything pisses off feminists, i'm just being honest, it was the first thing that came to my mind. Now the woman is playing cover my ass by saying some drugs did it to him. No one wants to be a yoko ono or even a priscilla presley, not to mention courtney love. I said it and I meant it, i don't know what's wrong with some of these men, some kind of mommy issue or something. I don't like seeing women fall for guy like that either which probably happens even MORE if I'm being honest. I just don't like seeing anyone played with and taken advantage of, that's just me.

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PeteSilas said:

exactly, they ain't happy till that's where they got ya. she said his words were slurring, she probably drove him to retardation, poor guy.

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PeteSilas said:

here's how the wife was treating a maid, she probably treated chris just as badly, RIP Chris: http://www.tmz.com/2012/1...per-fired/

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PeteSilas said:

backpedal, i don't think your comprehending me at all which is ok.

PennyPurple said:

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Pete: You did in fact, "backpeddal" on several statements, as PennyPurple noted, and was witnessed by several of us here.

My doctor prescribed me anti-anxiety meds last year because I was having a panic attack and my blood pressure was all over the place and I had to be taken to the ER. It was a very tramatic experience that I hope I never have to go through again. I've recently been going through a lot of stress, and one day it got the best of me. When your heart starts racing like a horse and you feel like you are going to die, you need something to help manage it. I'm doing much better now and haven't taken a Xanax in over a year and I'm not dependent on it either. I'm not ashamed to say that I needed help for my stress. I try and stay away from stressful situations and I practice Yoga and meditation now, which helps me greatly. There is no shame in anyone needing meds to help them with the stresses of life.

cloveringold85 said:

My doctor prescribed me anti-anxiety meds last year because I was having a panic attack and my blood pressure was all over the place and I had to be taken to the ER. It was a very tramatic experience that I hope I never have to go through again. I've recently been going through a lot of stress, and one day it got the best of me. When your heart starts racing like a horse and you feel like you are going to die, you need something to help manage it. I'm doing much better now and haven't taken a Xanax in over a year and I'm not dependent on it either. I'm not ashamed to say that I needed help for my stress. I try and stay away from stressful situations and I practice Yoga and meditation now, which helps me greatly. There is no shame in anyone needing meds to help them with the stresses of life.

There certainly is not. And many people only need these meds for a temporary amount of time. The shame and stigma still attached by society to mental health disorders is what stops people from getting the help they need.

purplethunder3121 said:

There certainly is not. And many people only need these meds for a temporary amount of time. The shame and stigma still attached by society to mental health disorders is what stops people from getting the help they need.

Very true. In 2017, there is prejudice against pshychiatrists, therapists and medications. It´s a shame

purplethunder3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

My doctor prescribed me anti-anxiety meds last year because I was having a panic attack and my blood pressure was all over the place and I had to be taken to the ER. It was a very tramatic experience that I hope I never have to go through again. I've recently been going through a lot of stress, and one day it got the best of me. When your heart starts racing like a horse and you feel like you are going to die, you need something to help manage it. I'm doing much better now and haven't taken a Xanax in over a year and I'm not dependent on it either. I'm not ashamed to say that I needed help for my stress. I try and stay away from stressful situations and I practice Yoga and meditation now, which helps me greatly. There is no shame in anyone needing meds to help them with the stresses of life.

There certainly is not. And many people only need these meds for a temporary amount of time. The shame and stigma still attached by society to mental health disorders is what stops people from getting the help they need.

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Thank you for saying that. None of us are perfect and we certainly don't live in a perfect world and some people go through hard times or suffer with mental-illness due to external factors that are beyond their control. There are people who go through tough times and never recover.

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My Mother who passed in 2014 was diagnosed with Bi-Polar. She had a tough childhood (was abandonded by her parents), and was a single-mother who raised me and my sister on her own. She went through a lot of tough times, and there wasn't much help for someone like her when she was a young adult. She lost her husband (my step dad) in 1999, and she was never the same again. She needed anti-depressants and therapy. I'm glad she sought-out help instead of resorting to worse things. Anywho, just my short-story.

cloveringold85 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

There certainly is not. And many people only need these meds for a temporary amount of time. The shame and stigma still attached by society to mental health disorders is what stops people from getting the help they need.

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Thank you for saying that. None of us are perfect and we certainly don't live in a perfect world and some people go through hard times or suffer with mental-illness due to external factors that are beyond their control. There are people who go through tough times and never recover.

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My Mother who passed in 2014 was diagnosed with Bi-Polar. She had a tough childhood (was abandonded by her parents), and was a single-mother who raised me and my sister on her own. She went through a lot of tough times, and there wasn't much help for someone like her when she was a young adult. She lost her husband (my step dad) in 1999, and she was never the same again. She needed anti-depressants and therapy. I'm glad she sought-out help instead of resorting to worse things. Anywho, just my short-story.

I, too, had a mother with mental health problems. To add insult to injury, she developed early-onset Alzheimer's. No one else on either side of the family ever had that as far as I know. Why some people develop these issues and others don't is still a mystery. It isn't always hereditary. My condolences on your Mom's passing. I just talked to a co-worker today who came back from his Mom's funeral. It was quick and sudden like my Mom's departure almost 10 years ago. We really don't know how long any one of us has...and need to treasure those moments with those we care about as much as possible.

purplethunder3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Thank you for saying that. None of us are perfect and we certainly don't live in a perfect world and some people go through hard times or suffer with mental-illness due to external factors that are beyond their control. There are people who go through tough times and never recover.

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My Mother who passed in 2014 was diagnosed with Bi-Polar. She had a tough childhood (was abandonded by her parents), and was a single-mother who raised me and my sister on her own. She went through a lot of tough times, and there wasn't much help for someone like her when she was a young adult. She lost her husband (my step dad) in 1999, and she was never the same again. She needed anti-depressants and therapy. I'm glad she sought-out help instead of resorting to worse things. Anywho, just my short-story.

I, too, had a mother with mental health problems. To add insult to injury, she developed early-onset Alzheimer's. No one else on either side of the family ever had that as far as I know. Why some people develop these issues and others don't is still a mystery. It isn't always hereditary. My condolences on your Mom's passing. I just talked to a co-worker today who came back from his Mom's funeral. It was quick and sudden like my Mom's departure almost 10 years ago. We really don't know how long any one of us has...and need to treasure those moments with those we care about as much as possible.

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Thank you for your condolences. I am so sorry for your loss as well. I can only imagine how difficult it was for you to see your Mother struggling with Alzheimer's. Losing a parent is by far, one of the toughest times a person will ever go through. My Mother was still very mentally-sharp. She was only 73 when she passed. She suffered from COPD, then had a bad fall and broke her hip and needed emergency surgery in January, 2014, and passed away on the 28th. I miss her so much, every day.

MickyDolenz said:

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Ann Wilson!! I love her!! She looks really good!!

CBS This Morning (April 22, 2017)

cloveringold85 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I, too, had a mother with mental health problems. To add insult to injury, she developed early-onset Alzheimer's. No one else on either side of the family ever had that as far as I know. Why some people develop these issues and others don't is still a mystery. It isn't always hereditary. My condolences on your Mom's passing. I just talked to a co-worker today who came back from his Mom's funeral. It was quick and sudden like my Mom's departure almost 10 years ago. We really don't know how long any one of us has...and need to treasure those moments with those we care about as much as possible.

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Thank you for your condolences. I am so sorry for your loss as well. I can only imagine how difficult it was for you to see your Mother struggling with Alzheimer's. Losing a parent is by far, one of the toughest times a person will ever go through. My Mother was still very mentally-sharp. She was only 73 when she passed. She suffered from COPD, then had a bad fall and broke her hip and needed emergency surgery in January, 2014, and passed away on the 28th. I miss her so much, every day.

I'm glad she was still mentally sharp and that you got as much time as you did with her. My Mom passed right before she turned 65. I know how hard it is. That was a tough year...

cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

i know all about it, didn't i say i hate being around people? I don't really like people much and i don't feel comfortable around them because i don't trust them, I don't need a pill for it though. I've said it since prince died but htis country has a problem with drugs, we have a problem with pain, part of it is that we're just a buncha babies. you don't need a pill for every little ache.

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Well, unfortunately for you, you don't understand depression and someone who needs treatment and therapy for it. Some people go through a traumatic event in their life, or abuse, or emotional problems or whatever, and they need help. Is there something wrong with that?

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You stated that you don't like people or trust them, so that suggests to me that you suffer from paranoia. I guess if you don't surround yourself with other people, you are devoid of any stressful (potentially) situations, thus you are never stressed-out. I guess you live a great life without any problems or stress!

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Why do you think people are out to get you?

no i just don't like people, they are pretty much all the same, play a lot of games, lots of drama, try to get into your head by doing things like calling you paranoid, ya know. I'd rather hang out with my cats. I really think a lot of it is dissapointment that comes from me being a native american, our values and priorities weren't like this and I think the western world's version of things are sick and deviant. I learned what the great writer vine deloria meant when he said "just forget about all these things that they present as problems to you, realize the schizophrenia is in the white man and not you". A major problem is, Indians are pretty much as bad or worse as everyone else in these later generations, it's all very dissapointing and leaves me with a great feeling of loss and dissapointment but I can't and won't try to change it. Life on it's own it beautiful like i said.

purplethunder3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Thank you for your condolences. I am so sorry for your loss as well. I can only imagine how difficult it was for you to see your Mother struggling with Alzheimer's. Losing a parent is by far, one of the toughest times a person will ever go through. My Mother was still very mentally-sharp. She was only 73 when she passed. She suffered from COPD, then had a bad fall and broke her hip and needed emergency surgery in January, 2014, and passed away on the 28th. I miss her so much, every day.

I'm glad she was still mentally sharp and that you got as much time as you did with her. My Mom passed right before she turned 65. I know how hard it is. That was a tough year...

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Your Mom was young. I'm so sorry.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Well, unfortunately for you, you don't understand depression and someone who needs treatment and therapy for it. Some people go through a traumatic event in their life, or abuse, or emotional problems or whatever, and they need help. Is there something wrong with that?

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You stated that you don't like people or trust them, so that suggests to me that you suffer from paranoia. I guess if you don't surround yourself with other people, you are devoid of any stressful (potentially) situations, thus you are never stressed-out. I guess you live a great life without any problems or stress!

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Why do you think people are out to get you?

no i just don't like people, they are pretty much all the same, play a lot of games, lots of drama, try to get into your head by doing things like calling you paranoid, ya know. I'd rather hang out with my cats. I really think a lot of it is dissapointment that comes from me being a native american, our values and priorities weren't like this and I think the western world's version of things are sick and deviant. I learned what the great writer vine deloria meant when he said "just forget about all these things that they present as problems to you, realize the schizophrenia is in the white man and not you". A major problem is, Indians are pretty much as bad or worse as everyone else in these later generations, it's all very dissapointing and leaves me with a great feeling of loss and dissapointment but I can't and won't try to change it. Life on it's own it beautiful like i said.

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I apologize for my comments, it was a bit harsh. It just seems unfair for you to blame Chris Cornell's wife for his suicide death, when we really don't know what happened, that's all.

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I think there are still some good people in this world, but I will also say that there are some people that I do not like either.

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I think that is awesome that you are Native-American. I also have native american in my family, but I don't know much about the history, but that's another story, LOL

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Again, I meant no harm and I'm sorry if I offended you. We've had conversations in the past and I've always respected your opinions. Peace!

cloveringold85 said:

MickyDolenz said:

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Ann Wilson!! I love her!! She looks really good!!

Still sounds great, too. Just saw her in March.

his PRINCE encounter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnWEnBQa1DE

listen at 9:45

Sorry but we live in a culture now that writes prescriptions for anything. Everything has a PILL for it, and for the life of me I cannot understand HOW intelligent people like a doctor knows someone has had ADDICTIONS and SUBSTANCE abuse issues and dealing with Depression, writes prescriptions to him and no one is monitoring him and what he is taking, when a doctor writes it he knows how many he gave you if he gives you 90 pills and says take one a day and you come back in a week for another prescription what the FUCK is going on in this god damn country with writing this shit out just for $$$$ and if someone dies fuck it, as long as we save more than we kill who cares. That is the american way.

lastdecember said:

Sorry but we live in a culture now that writes prescriptions for anything. Everything has a PILL for it, and for the life of me I cannot understand HOW intelligent people like a doctor knows someone has had ADDICTIONS and SUBSTANCE abuse issues and dealing with Depression, writes prescriptions to him and no one is monitoring him and what he is taking, when a doctor writes it he knows how many he gave you if he gives you 90 pills and says take one a day and you come back in a week for another prescription what the FUCK is going on in this god damn country with writing this shit out just for $$$$ and if someone dies fuck it, as long as we save more than we kill who cares. That is the american way.

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- I asked myself the same question, but on the other hand, if a person gets 90 pills and wants to take 2 or 3 in a day, the doctor doesnt even know. I wonder if he had any doctor, btw. Lots of people just want a prescription.

luvsexy4all said:

his PRINCE encounter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnWEnBQa1DE

listen at 9:45

Hahahaha. Funny story. Thanks!