When I saw Lamar come out on stage all I thought about was this Sam Cooke Classic:

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MotownSubdivision said:

Musicslave said: Easily performance of the night. Interesting how those idiots up in arms over Beyonce aren't claiming this much more explicit performance to be a racist attack on white people? Guess it was that good, huh? Gotta give TPAB a new listen; maybe the album I'll warm up to the album upon hearing it again. BTW, I was in and out of Gaga's performance but thumbs seem to mostly in the middle, leaning down. What I paid attention to wasn't bad I say but it felt more like she was being herself rather than paying tribute to Bowie. I've never really listened to Bowie to know who he was as an artist or a person but this is how I felt. Overall, this Grammys was yet another Taylor Swift show. They couldn't keep the camera off her for one minute throughout the whole show and it was pretty annoying (as always). Kendrick may have netted the most awards last night but Taylor (unsurprisingly) was the focus. I'd like to see someone try to argue she had performance of the night. Outside of Kendrick, the B.B. King tribute, Alabama Shakes and to a lesser extent the Glenn Frey tribute, almost all of last night's performances were pretty weak. Taylor's was paint-by-numbers mediocrity, The Weeknd's was just one step above high school talent show level (the dude hardly moved and he's supposed to be today's Michael Jackson?), Lionel's tribute was patchy but a decent nostalgia trip (didn't know Demi could blow like that), Bieber's performance was embarrassing as was the "tribute" to Maurice White, Adele's performance would have been unimpressive and dull without the audio issues, Miguel's random cover of "She's Out of My Life" was good vocally but too short to be any better than a decent performance , unnecessary and felt like a commercial in the middle of the show, Gaga's tribute to Bowie was fine from what I've seen. Am I missing any? One thing that was made perfectly clear to me last night was how these old school acts even in their old age can perform circles around most of today's talent. Also, the only person who doesn't use special effects as a crutch is Kendrick who's performance was only enhanced by the imagery presented. On the other end of the spectrum you have The Weeknd, who's only performance highlight was when the lights shined brighter during the chorus and Bieber, who looked like a 5 year old jumping around during a school recital while the lights flared everywhere. Even the special effects couldn't make up for that travesty. Overall, a disappointing show that would have been better had they just not done individual tributes in the first place and kept everyone in the Memoriam video. People still would've complained but they wouldn't have been angry at certain artists getting priority over their favorites and ultimately not being satisfied with the performances or semi-performances that took place. Too bad Lauryn and Rihanna (never thought I'd say that) weren't there.

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I didn't see the show live. Only been able to catch certain performances on YT. From what I can tell, Kendrick was a standout.

Actually, he was The Standout.

Finally got to watch this tonight. What a ceremony! Only four boring performances: Sam Hunt, Justin Bieber, Pitbull (epilogue that doesn't really count), and the Lionel tribute full of losers and Meghan Trainor.

Musicslave said:

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No offense taken. I was just posting that to give insight to how the family felt about it for conversation. I knew somebody was going to be pissed. It never fails.

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As far as numbers go, I don't think albums sold should be the only criteria considered when it comes to things like this either. Sometimes an artist impact and influence can't be quantified to merely albums sold.

I agree, it shouldn't always be about just album sales. However it's difficult to come up with a better way to measure a performer's reach, influence and impact.

Pokeno4Money said:

Musicslave said:

Apparently Natalie Cole's family wasn't pleased with their loved one's tribute...

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/natalie-cole-grammys-tribute_us_56c32c94e4b0b40245c7d160

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Natalie Cole's Family Blasts Grammys For 'Disrespectful' Tribute

"She deserves more than [to be a part of] a minute-and-a-half tribute."

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Natalie Cole's family was not happy about the "forgettable" homage paid to the late singer.

"Words cannot express the outrage and utter disappointment at the disrespectful tribute, or lack thereof, to a legendary artist such as our sister," Cole's sisters Timolin and Casey told Entertainment Tonight after the show.

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Cole's image was included in an "In Memoriam" video for artists who have died recently.

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"Here is a woman who has been in the business for four decades, had 21 Grammy nominations and won nine Grammys. She deserves more than [to be a part of] a minute-and-a-half tribute," her son, Robert Adam Yancy, added. "It was shameless the way they minimized her legacy. We will find solace in her legacy as well as her endless fans around the world."

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The jazz singer died in January due to complications from ongoing health issues at the age of 65. She battled drug issues and hepatitis, which led to her receiving a kidney transplant in 2009.

Musicians like David Bowie and the Eagles' Glenn Frey were remembered with musical tributes Monday night.

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I knew somone would feel slighted considering how many deaths occured this past year.

Bowie sold 140 million records.

The Eagles alone sold 150 million records.

Natalie sold 30 million records.

No offense, but when it comes to popularity and impact she's not anywhere near the same league as a Frey or Bowie.

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She won 9 grammy awards though.

He won 2.

Hudson said:

Finally got to watch this tonight. What a ceremony! Only four boring performances: Sam Hunt, Justin Bieber, Pitbull (epilogue that doesn't really count), and the Lionel tribute full of losers and Meghan Trainor.

The viewer could not help but notice that they saved Pit & Robin for last....I'm not a Pitbull fan but he's alright....Being last can be Good & Bad but the credits played through their performance...The Latino community deserved better...

Pokeno4Money said:

I agree, it shouldn't always be about just album sales. However it's difficult to come up with a better way to measure a performer's reach, influence and impact.

True..I thought giving Natalie a "few seconds" was a bad move on the powers that be...Natalie's father was the ICONIC Nat King Cole and she created her own legacy that rivaled his....Not many Artists can carry Momma or Daddy's torch and Natalie did it with Elegance, Hits and a Mega selling Album...I read a google article that stated the GRAMMY entertainment producer(s) THOUGHT about booking a Female vocalist to pay tribute but they decided against it and went with a few seconds of memoriam...

Hudson said:

CynicKill said:

Pokeno4Money said:

Bowie sold 140 million records.

The Eagles alone sold 150 million records.

Natalie sold 30 million records.

No offense, but when it comes to popularity and impact she's not anywhere near the same league as a Frey or Bowie.

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She won 9 grammy awards though.

He won 2.

That's kinda like basing a movie's popularity and impact on the American public by using critic reviews rather than sales and television ratings. Quite often the most critically acclaimed movies bomb in the box office, and vice versa.

Heck, I'm a huge fan of Lenny Kravitz ... does his 4 Grammy wins mean he's one of the greatest of all time and had a major impact on the public? Plenty of people would say absolutely not.

Chancellor said:

Pokeno4Money said:

I agree, it shouldn't always be about just album sales. However it's difficult to come up with a better way to measure a performer's reach, influence and impact.

True..I thought giving Natalie a "few seconds" was a bad move on the powers that be...Natalie's father was the ICONIC Nat King Cole and she created her own legacy that rivaled his....Not many Artists can carry Momma or Daddy's torch and Natalie did it with Elegance, Hits and a Mega selling Album...I read a google article that stated the GRAMMY entertainment producer(s) THOUGHT about booking a Female vocalist to pay tribute but they decided against it and went with a few seconds of memoriam...

No doubt she's an all-time great and I certainly don't mean to diminish her accomplishments. I just think the Grammy's are a mainstream sort of awards show, and Bowie/Frey/The Eagles were a lot more mainstream than her.

As for having an iconic parent, don't you think that helps in some regards? Not that Natalie needed help, but early on she probably had a lot more opportunities presented to her because of her Dad's legacy. And for the casual fan, when they think of her performances it's her "duet" with her Dad that typically comes to mind first.

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