I totally dig what you are saying.. but some people dont like rudimentary rock & roll..

since Prince 'does it all'...

I can see how some Funk fans might think D'angelo is out Prince-ing Prince..

In the end you are 100% correct as well...

bashraka said:

Ego101 said:

I think the point was D'angelo shouldnt have a stronger/tighter/funkier

band out on the road than the one Prince has.

& IMO in 2015 he does.. 100%.

What I don't understand is that fans can't accept that these two musicians have two totally different career trajectories and two different musical scopes. Prince can assemble a band like the one you described in a heartbeat, but that's besides the point. What D does is independent of Prince and vice versa and that's the way it should be. The Vanguard is a tight soul band and D's is a soul musician to the core, so he should have a band with tight and funky chops. I think the intention of 3RDEYEGIRL is a female rock trio that plays loose and intense. This is not a contest on which artist has the "funkier" band.

Ego101 said:

I totally dig what you are saying.. but some people dont like rudimentary rock & roll..

since Prince 'does it all'...

I can see how some Funk fans might think D'angelo is out Prince-ing Prince..

In the end you are 100% correct as well...

bashraka said:

What I don't understand is that fans can't accept that these two musicians have two totally different career trajectories and two different musical scopes. Prince can assemble a band like the one you described in a heartbeat, but that's besides the point. What D does is independent of Prince and vice versa and that's the way it should be. The Vanguard is a tight soul band and D's is a soul musician to the core, so he should have a band with tight and funky chops. I think the intention of 3RDEYEGIRL is a female rock trio that plays loose and intense. This is not a contest on which artist has the "funkier" band.

Prince is a musician that doesn't operate in a box-not with his music, songwriting, career choices and certainly not with his bands. "Funk fans might think D'angelo is out Prince-ing Prince" is not an insult to Prince but really a knock on D'angelo. At some point, fans have to allow D to get out of the shadow of his predecessors. By saying "D'angelo is out Prince-ing Prince" is essentially saying D is performing Prince's past musical ideas more than the man who pioneered them. I respect D'angelo as a great contemporary soul musician whose music echoes the best of past Black music while forging a legacy of music that speaks to modern day issues and times. To me these cats are mutually exclusive figures in music.

D is a soul musician. Prince has never been that. Prince once said "I am music" and that's true. D'Angelo is black music.

tab32792 said:

the Vanguard is a thousand times better than 3rdEyeGirl. it's a damn shame.

Prince is known for recruiting band members not only based on skills alone, but also other factors such as looks/race/sex.

3rdEyeGirl is a solid band but the songs on PlectrumElectrum suck so they don't really get a chance to shine.

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Ego101 said:

I was disappointed that he didnt play it last night.. its my fav song on the new album.

nuttynutmeg said:

Anyone noticed no Another Life in his 2015 setlist so far?

I suspect that he's saving Another Life for the next single so he doesn't want to over-expose the song.

In some cases, I'd argue D has done the same.

nuttynutmeg said:

Anyone noticed no Another Life in his 2015 setlist so far?

It was played in Berlin

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Ahh man....can he please release some US dates????!!!!????

I dont see how he could possibly 'Hurt' future sales by playing a song everyone in his audience owns already..?

nuttynutmeg said:

Ego101 said:

I was disappointed that he didnt play it last night.. its my fav song on the new album.

I suspect that he's saving Another Life for the next single so he doesn't want to over-expose the song.

To be REALLY honest with you..

Im very 'put off' with how much 'Prince' i see in D'angelo..

it boarders on a Joke/Parody to anyone

who actually was there during the Parade era.

Everybody stop on the One.... Good Gawd!.. Chicken Grease...

Jesse cut em.. Too MUCH!

bashraka said:

Ego101 said:

I totally dig what you are saying.. but some people dont like rudimentary rock & roll..

since Prince 'does it all'...

I can see how some Funk fans might think D'angelo is out Prince-ing Prince..

In the end you are 100% correct as well...

Prince is a musician that doesn't operate in a box-not with his music, songwriting, career choices and certainly not with his bands. "Funk fans might think D'angelo is out Prince-ing Prince" is not an insult to Prince but really a knock on D'angelo. At some point, fans have to allow D to get out of the shadow of his predecessors. By saying "D'angelo is out Prince-ing Prince" is essentially saying D is performing Prince's past musical ideas more than the man who pioneered them. I respect D'angelo as a great contemporary soul musician whose music echoes the best of past Black music while forging a legacy of music that speaks to modern day issues and times. To me these cats are mutually exclusive figures in music.

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Ego101 said:

I think the point was D'angelo shouldnt have a stronger/tighter/funkier

band out on the road than the one Prince has.

& IMO in 2015 he does.. 100%.

bashraka said:

What difference does it make when D studies Prince like a college entrance exam? I thought D'angelo was his own man but apparently he isn't with that statement.

precisely

I've seen the group ay HOB in Boston...Prince's presense alone is like MJ, Lebron or Magic.,,he elevates the group..3EG will blow D's group out the water,,,Yes, it reminds me of what Prince did in 19fuckign 86 ..you act like P cant go recreate that; he can if he wanted..l

Now with said,, enjoyable show but dont be so dismissive of what Prine is doing as Prince is doing what Prince wants to do. Further, Prince made the sound and band change to the revue format for hit and run in several months back in 86 how long has it taken D...get real people

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I agree with the whole P thing. At some point, D has got to stop that. I wonder what P thinks of Black Messiah?

Lastly,

compare reviews of the shows..when d starts gettig glowing revue after frevue then we can talk..with that said, i lieki d's show, Prince he is not though in any way

D has been getting great reviews

Ego101 said:

To be REALLY honest with you..

Im very 'put off' with how much 'Prince' i see in D'angelo..

it boarders on a Joke/Parody to anyone

who actually was there during the Parade era.

Everybody stop on the One.... Good Gawd!.. Chicken Grease...

Jesse cut em.. Too MUCH!

bashraka said:

Prince is a musician that doesn't operate in a box-not with his music, songwriting, career choices and certainly not with his bands. "Funk fans might think D'angelo is out Prince-ing Prince" is not an insult to Prince but really a knock on D'angelo. At some point, fans have to allow D to get out of the shadow of his predecessors. By saying "D'angelo is out Prince-ing Prince" is essentially saying D is performing Prince's past musical ideas more than the man who pioneered them. I respect D'angelo as a great contemporary soul musician whose music echoes the best of past Black music while forging a legacy of music that speaks to modern day issues and times. To me these cats are mutually exclusive figures in music.

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Exactly. I got much respect for D'angelo but there's a huge difference between taking inspiration from someone you musically admire to just flat out d-ridin'. D is an incredible musician when doing HIS thing. D has carved out a lane for himself as a great soul musician who still uses the musical and creative devices of the best r&b music of the past and IS pushing the music forward with his latest album. But even Lenny Kravitz, as derivative he is grew out of his fandom and came into his own for good.

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

jasontate said:

Hello

Where were you positioned? We rolled in at the balcony at the back and the sound was some of the best I've ever heard. Even with his bass heavy grooves, it sounded clean and crisp. Maybe the sound travels better to the top at the Academy?

Very near to the stage, maybe 7 rows back. Glad to hear it was so good for you, obviously I know that standing so close to the stage is going to make the sound worse, but I was in a similar position when I saw P at the Roundhouse last year and that sounded a lot better than this I thought. Like I said it did seem to get a lot better towards the end and it didn't spoil an overall amazing gig, but the Jesse guitar thing was very noticeable at points (how was the solo in The Charade for you), and Pino's bass occasionally seemed rather loud and distorted at points. I accept this is probably totally due to my standing position, but it was noticeable.

If I'm totally honest, yes Jesse was difficult to pick out during the Charade, but that was probably the only time. I think they turned him up immediately after that, without being asked. Pino sounded crisp at the back, but that's prolly just a volume thing. It was noticeably quieter than any (small) P gig that I've been to. Agree that the sound at the Roundhouse last year was the BEST sound I have ever heard at a Prince gig. Amazing show from start to stop. There were some equally bad sounding shows too.

Interesting about the D ripping off Prince too much.

I don't notice it as much as I used to, but my friend who came to the D show with me in Birmingham actually burst out laughing at the 'parody' as he put it. He thought the Charade was just too much like the revolution and that 'Untitled' although brilliant was clearly too far Prince.

Personally, I'm just happy he's here, playing and with an off the scale band.

The difference I find with this band and a Prince band is primarily how relaxed they are, whilst holding together some TIGHT grooves. Blovely.

lol i didn't think my comment was that big of a deal. it's a subjective opinion. 3rdeyegirl is good but Vanguard is better. Chris Dave will run circles around Hannah and Jesse Johnson vs. Donna? are you kidding me? Ida might actually have a fight in her though. Yes D's stage show is based off the parade tour but that has nothing to do with his quality of musicians.

tab32792 said:

lol i didn't think my comment was that big of a deal. it's a subjective opinion. 3rdeyegirl is good but Vanguard is better. Chris Dave will run circles around Hannah and Jesse Johnson vs. Donna? are you kidding me? Ida might actually have a fight in her though. Yes D's stage show is based off the parade tour but that has nothing to do with his quality of musicians.

Circles? How about 100 mile chunks..........

We're on the same page!

bashraka said:

Ego101 said:

To be REALLY honest with you..

Im very 'put off' with how much 'Prince' i see in D'angelo..

it boarders on a Joke/Parody to anyone

who actually was there during the Parade era.

Everybody stop on the One.... Good Gawd!.. Chicken Grease...

Jesse cut em.. Too MUCH!

[Edited 2/19/15 5:14am]

Exactly. I got much respect for D'angelo but there's a huge difference between taking inspiration from someone you musically admire to just flat out d-ridin'. D is an incredible musician when doing HIS thing. D has carved out a lane for himself as a great soul musician who still uses the musical and creative devices of the best r&b music of the past and IS pushing the music forward with his latest album. But even Lenny Kravitz, as derivative he is grew out of his fandom and came into his own for good.

It was an excellent show in Birmingham.

D'Angelo's stagecraft draws on a tradition in general and Prince very much in particular. That's no news but the introduction of some more of his own moves would be welcomed and embraced.

The Vanguard musicianship, with Pino Palladino in particular, was superb.

But, most of all, the songs from 'Black Messiah' delivered. Choosing 'Prayer' to open the show was a great choice and 'Ain't That Easy', Sugah Daddy', 'Back To The Future', and 'Really Love' were readily greeted by the audience as firm friends that sat comfortably next to old favourites from the back catalogue.

[Edited 2/19/15 14:29pm]

Graycap23 said:

tab32792 said:

lol i didn't think my comment was that big of a deal. it's a subjective opinion. 3rdeyegirl is good but Vanguard is better. Chris Dave will run circles around Hannah and Jesse Johnson vs. Donna? are you kidding me? Ida might actually have a fight in her though. Yes D's stage show is based off the parade tour but that has nothing to do with his quality of musicians.

Circles? How about 100 mile chunks..........

lmaoooo

How were the backup singers, tho? Anthony Hamilton and Shelby J are irreplaceable, imho.

Ego101 said:

I think the point was D'angelo shouldnt have a stronger/tighter/funkier

band out on the road than the one Prince has.

& IMO in 2015 he does.. 100%.

bashraka said:

What difference does it make when D studies Prince like a college entrance exam? I thought D'angelo was his own man but apparently he isn't with that statement.

Not really...

Bland, Weaver, Dr., Eric, Sonny-or-BrownMark-or-Levi aren't in either band...yet.

Shelby J can sing her ASS off.

scriptgirl said: