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Reply #120 posted 02/14/15 9:19am

SeventeenDayze

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SeventeenDayze said:




SoulAlive said:


Many years from now,we're gonna find out that Beyonce secretly sabotaged the careers of the two other ladies in Destiny's Child.She used her clout to get radio stations not to play their solo stuff.Ever wonder why Kelly Rowland can never seem to score a hit record?? hmmm Think about it.Beyonce is just that type of person.



Her PR team works overtime to promote this image of her as being so sweet and wholesome but the skullduggery that she's laid out over the years is very telling of her. She's extremely overrated and satures the market to the point where you cannot escape her. I'm on the verge of giving up watching some of my favorite entertainment shows because they mention her damn near everyday that I watch. It's really getting to be too much. I just change the channel.



When you have news journalist like Anderson Cooper saying "It's Beyonce's world and we just live in it" in a serious matter, you know it's gotten ridiculous. Plus John Legend saying you can't say no to her. This is why she thinks she can do whatever she wants like forcing her way onto credits she doesn't deserve, and doing shady shit at the expense of other artists because everyone's lips are so firmly planted on her ass.





I've never seen the media kiss a celebrities ass so much, but with excessive ass kissing comes excessive backlash. I wouldn't want it lol. It looks like the backlash has been starting the last couple years too. She better pray they don't do her like they did Michael.


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That's sad even when Anderson Cooper joins in on the foolery. I just don't see what is so great about this chick that warrants all this butt kissing...
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Reply #121 posted 02/14/15 11:50am

mjscarousal

starbelly said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Her PR team works overtime to promote this image of her as being so sweet and wholesome but the skullduggery that she's laid out over the years is very telling of her. She's extremely overrated and satures the market to the point where you cannot escape her. I'm on the verge of giving up watching some of my favorite entertainment shows because they mention her damn near everyday that I watch. It's really getting to be too much. I just change the channel.

When you have news journalist like Anderson Cooper saying "It's Beyonce's world and we just live in it" in a serious matter, you know it's gotten ridiculous. Plus John Legend saying you can't say no to her. This is why she thinks she can do whatever she wants like forcing her way onto credits she doesn't deserve, and doing shady shit at the expense of other artists because everyone's lips are so firmly planted on her ass.



I've never seen the media kiss a celebrities ass so much, but with excessive ass kissing comes excessive backlash. I wouldn't want it lol. It looks like the backlash has been starting the last couple years too. She better pray they don't do her like they did Michael.

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The thing about Michael is that people geniunely loved him all over the world. Michael might have publish some false stories in the late 80's BUT besides that he did not have to do calculating things to generate hype because there was a geniune interest in him by the public. People loved his songs, performances, videos etc with Beyonce not so much. With Beyonce it appears her popularity is a made up media driven facade that she creates and the industry reinforces. If you walk down the street and ask the average person if they are a fan or if they love Beyonce (like her PR hype implies) you will get the opposite response. lol Its her PR thats generating this hype and the ass kissing the industry does on top of that reinforces it hmmm

Even Michael Jackson did not get this much ass kissing by the industry lol lol Michael actually had a back bone and was a threat. Beyonce is not viewed the same as Michael. Michael was viewed as a threat so her backlash would never be on the same level but yes her backlash is coming...

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Reply #122 posted 02/14/15 12:15pm

SeventeenDayze

mjscarousal said:



starbelly said:




SeventeenDayze said:



Her PR team works overtime to promote this image of her as being so sweet and wholesome but the skullduggery that she's laid out over the years is very telling of her. She's extremely overrated and satures the market to the point where you cannot escape her. I'm on the verge of giving up watching some of my favorite entertainment shows because they mention her damn near everyday that I watch. It's really getting to be too much. I just change the channel.



When you have news journalist like Anderson Cooper saying "It's Beyonce's world and we just live in it" in a serious matter, you know it's gotten ridiculous. Plus John Legend saying you can't say no to her. This is why she thinks she can do whatever she wants like forcing her way onto credits she doesn't deserve, and doing shady shit at the expense of other artists because everyone's lips are so firmly planted on her ass.





I've never seen the media kiss a celebrities ass so much, but with excessive ass kissing comes excessive backlash. I wouldn't want it lol. It looks like the backlash has been starting the last couple years too. She better pray they don't do her like they did Michael.



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The thing about Michael is that people geniunely loved him all over the world. Michael might have publish some false stories in the late 80's BUT besides that he did not have to do calculating things to generate hype because there was a geniune interest in him by the public. People loved his songs, performances, videos etc with Beyonce not so much. With Beyonce it appears her popularity is a made up media driven facade that she creates and the industry reinforces. If you walk down the street and ask the average person if they are a fan or if they love Beyonce (like her PR hype implies) you will get the opposite response. lol Its her PR thats generating this hype and the ass kissing the industry does on top of that reinforces it hmmm


Even Michael Jackson did not get this much ass kissing by the industry lol lol Michael actually had a back bone and was a threat. Beyonce is not viewed the same as Michael. Michael was viewed as a threat so her backlash would never be on the same level but yes her backlash is coming...

I agree. Everything about this chick is fake and her fame is make believe. She's boring and overrated.
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Reply #123 posted 02/14/15 12:30pm

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Reply #124 posted 02/15/15 3:01pm

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Very dissappointed in Common. I'm not at all suprised by the others.

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Reply #125 posted 02/15/15 3:34pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

The thing about Michael is that people geniunely loved him all over the world. Michael might have publish some false stories in the late 80's BUT besides that he did not have to do calculating things to generate hype because there was a geniune interest in him by the public. People loved his songs, performances, videos etc with Beyonce not so much. With Beyonce it appears her popularity is a made up media driven facade that she creates and the industry reinforces. If you walk down the street and ask the average person if they are a fan or if they love Beyonce (like her PR hype implies) you will get the opposite response. lol Its her PR thats generating this hype and the ass kissing the industry does on top of that reinforces it hmmm

Even Michael Jackson did not get this much ass kissing by the industry lol lol Michael actually had a back bone and was a threat. Beyonce is not viewed the same as Michael. Michael was viewed as a threat so her backlash would never be on the same level but yes her backlash is coming...

I agree. Everything about this chick is fake and her fame is make believe. She's boring and overrated.

IDK... Meghan Trainor says she's the most talented artist ever:

wacky

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Reply #126 posted 02/16/15 12:38am

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I LOVE B-Girl but Nobody in their right mind is going to say they'd rather see Beyonce perform the Track over Ledesi. Ledesi's voice is CRAZY good, that Sista can sing a song. The Good thing is that Ledesi was Nominated for a GRAMMY and she was going to be in the audience regardless...Don't believe ANY rumors about Ledesi "crying" backstage, that's not even who she is as a Performer...She was very honest to the Press about being dissapointed but she also lifted everybody up...That's CLASS baby..You can't buy CLASS and winning a GRAMMY sure as Hell won't give you some CLASS...

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Reply #127 posted 02/16/15 9:42am

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mjscarousal said:

starbelly said:

When you have news journalist like Anderson Cooper saying "It's Beyonce's world and we just live in it" in a serious matter, you know it's gotten ridiculous. Plus John Legend saying you can't say no to her. This is why she thinks she can do whatever she wants like forcing her way onto credits she doesn't deserve, and doing shady shit at the expense of other artists because everyone's lips are so firmly planted on her ass.



I've never seen the media kiss a celebrities ass so much, but with excessive ass kissing comes excessive backlash. I wouldn't want it lol. It looks like the backlash has been starting the last couple years too. She better pray they don't do her like they did Michael.

[Edited 2/14/15 7:46am]

The thing about Michael is that people geniunely loved him all over the world. Michael might have publish some false stories in the late 80's BUT besides that he did not have to do calculating things to generate hype because there was a geniune interest in him by the public. People loved his songs, performances, videos etc with Beyonce not so much. With Beyonce it appears her popularity is a made up media driven facade that she creates and the industry reinforces. If you walk down the street and ask the average person if they are a fan or if they love Beyonce (like her PR hype implies) you will get the opposite response. lol Its her PR thats generating this hype and the ass kissing the industry does on top of that reinforces it hmmm

Even Michael Jackson did not get this much ass kissing by the industry lol lol Michael actually had a back bone and was a threat. Beyonce is not viewed the same as Michael. Michael was viewed as a threat so her backlash would never be on the same level but yes her backlash is coming...

And aint that the COMPLETE HONEST TRUTH!!! clapping clapping clapping PREACH IT GURL!!

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Reply #128 posted 02/16/15 11:53pm

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God don't like arrogant...

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Reply #129 posted 02/23/15 9:15pm

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Not what happened.

Ledisi was not invited to perform by the Grammys. As an Album of the Year nominee, Beyoncé was. Beyoncé approached John Legend and Common and asked to use HER performance slot to introduce their performance, which would probably explain why they got to close the show. Someone between the three of them came up with the idea of her performing "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" (John says Bey did, Common says he did). Beyoncé performed it, it's over, the song does not belong to her, Ledisi, Aretha, Mahalia, or anyone besides Thomas Dorsey. Get over it. The end.

People need to actually be concerned about how Ledisi never gets invited to perform her own material on the BET Awards (where she has never won) or ANY awards show period.

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Reply #130 posted 02/24/15 12:57am

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Not what happened.

Ledisi was not invited to perform by the Grammys. As an Album of the Year nominee, Beyoncé was. Beyoncé approached John Legend and Common and asked to use HER performance slot to introduce their performance, which would probably explain why they got to close the show. Someone between the three of them came up with the idea of her performing "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" (John says Bey did, Common says he did). Beyoncé performed it, it's over, the song does not belong to her, Ledisi, Aretha, Mahalia, or anyone besides Thomas Dorsey. Get over it. The end.

People need to actually be concerned about how Ledisi never gets invited to perform her own material on the BET Awards (where she has never won) or ANY awards show period.

Ledesi performed on The BET Awards the same year they paid tribute to Whitney. She also performed on "Black Girls Rock"(airs on BET) in 2013...

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Reply #131 posted 02/24/15 1:12am

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damacy said:

Not what happened.

Ledisi was not invited to perform by the Grammys. As an Album of the Year nominee, Beyoncé was. Beyoncé approached John Legend and Common and asked to use HER performance slot to introduce their performance, which would probably explain why they got to close the show. Someone between the three of them came up with the idea of her performing "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" (John says Bey did, Common says he did). Beyoncé performed it, it's over, the song does not belong to her, Ledisi, Aretha, Mahalia, or anyone besides Thomas Dorsey. Get over it. The end.

People need to actually be concerned about how Ledisi never gets invited to perform her own material on the BET Awards (where she has never won) or ANY awards show period.

the bottom line is....Beyonce should NOT have performed the song that Ledesi recorded for the Selma movie.Beyonce has NO connection to that movie or the soundtrack.Ledesi actually appears in the film,playing Mahalia Jackson,and performs the song in the movie and on the soundtrack.Shame on Beyonce for (once again) hogging the spotlight and stealing attention away from someone else who truly deserves it.As you pointed out,Beyonce was already asked to perform.She could have just did one of her own songs.But no,she chooses to do a song that Ledesi recorded.Poor Ledesi was sitting in the audience,unable to finally have "her" big moment because of the greedy,spotlight-stealing Beyonce.Spin it anyway you want,but that is fucked up.

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Reply #132 posted 02/24/15 7:28am

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damacy said:

Not what happened.

Ledisi was not invited to perform by the Grammys. As an Album of the Year nominee, Beyoncé was. Beyoncé approached John Legend and Common and asked to use HER performance slot to introduce their performance, which would probably explain why they got to close the show. Someone between the three of them came up with the idea of her performing "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" (John says Bey did, Common says he did). Beyoncé performed it, it's over, the song does not belong to her, Ledisi, Aretha, Mahalia, or anyone besides Thomas Dorsey. Get over it. The end.

People need to actually be concerned about how Ledisi never gets invited to perform her own material on the BET Awards (where she has never won) or ANY awards show period.

"AT LAST" isn't Beyonce's song either, but tell me how it would look if someone else performed that song while she was promoting Cadillac Records and she was capable of doing it herself? Stans would have a fit.



No shit it isn't Ledisi song but Selma came out LAST MONTH and she was in the movie and on the soundtrack. I don't understand why people keep giving Beyonce excuses like this. She said herself it was her idea to do the song, just look at the behind the scenes video. You can say John and Common greenlit her doing the song but Beyonce probably knew that she would get a "yes" from her being Beyonce alone which is what happened, and that's some shady shit. I'm sure she abuses her power like that often. So it doesn't matter if Ledisi was slated to perform or not, Beyonce had a million other songs to choose from.

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Reply #133 posted 02/24/15 10:39am

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starbelly said:

damacy said:

Not what happened.

Ledisi was not invited to perform by the Grammys. As an Album of the Year nominee, Beyoncé was. Beyoncé approached John Legend and Common and asked to use HER performance slot to introduce their performance, which would probably explain why they got to close the show. Someone between the three of them came up with the idea of her performing "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" (John says Bey did, Common says he did). Beyoncé performed it, it's over, the song does not belong to her, Ledisi, Aretha, Mahalia, or anyone besides Thomas Dorsey. Get over it. The end.

People need to actually be concerned about how Ledisi never gets invited to perform her own material on the BET Awards (where she has never won) or ANY awards show period.

"AT LAST" isn't Beyonce's song either, but tell me how it would look if someone else performed that song while she was promoting Cadillac Records and she was capable of doing it herself? Stans would have a fit.



No shit it isn't Ledisi song but Selma came out LAST MONTH and she was in the movie and on the soundtrack. I don't understand why people keep giving Beyonce excuses like this. She said herself it was her idea to do the song, just look at the behind the scenes video. You can say John and Common greenlit her doing the song but Beyonce probably knew that she would get a "yes" from her being Beyonce alone which is what happened, and that's some shady shit. I'm sure she abuses her power like that often. So it doesn't matter if Ledisi was slated to perform or not, Beyonce had a million other songs to choose from.

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Common and John Legend talked about slavery and the stuggle black people have to go through in their Oscar acceptance speech Sunday. I thought it was really fake and phony especially after what they did to Ledisi. I don't like pretentious fake black "afrocentrics" who talk about the struggles of black America and historically BUT when it comes to putting their money where their mouth is they shit on their own kind. They are SUPER fake, seriously. How can you seriously talk about black people struggling BUT you gave the OKAY for someone to steal another black singer's spotlight? Really Common? Really?

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Reply #134 posted 02/24/15 11:20am

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mjscarousal said:

starbelly said:

"AT LAST" isn't Beyonce's song either, but tell me how it would look if someone else performed that song while she was promoting Cadillac Records and she was capable of doing it herself? Stans would have a fit.



No shit it isn't Ledisi song but Selma came out LAST MONTH and she was in the movie and on the soundtrack. I don't understand why people keep giving Beyonce excuses like this. She said herself it was her idea to do the song, just look at the behind the scenes video. You can say John and Common greenlit her doing the song but Beyonce probably knew that she would get a "yes" from her being Beyonce alone which is what happened, and that's some shady shit. I'm sure she abuses her power like that often. So it doesn't matter if Ledisi was slated to perform or not, Beyonce had a million other songs to choose from.

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Common and John Legend talked about slavery and the stuggle black people have to go through in their Oscar acceptance speech Sunday. I thought it was really fake and phony especially after what they did to Ledisi. I don't like pretentious fake black "afrocentrics" who talk about the struggles of black America and historically BUT when it comes to putting their money where their mouth is they shit on their own kind. They are SUPER fake, seriously. How can you seriously talk about black people struggling BUT you gave the OKAY for someone to steal another black singer's spotlight? Really Common? Really?

Exactly. Their pro-blackness apparently went out the window when campaigning for that Oscar win. They probably thought Beyonce performing it would help them even more. She's a big name and White people love her. lol



I was disappointed in Common for going along with it and not speaking up for Ledisi, I don't even expect much from John though lol. But I hope someone apologized to Ledisi (all 3 of them should) because she said she was disappointed about it so that's the least they could do.

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Reply #135 posted 02/24/15 12:15pm

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Oh, it's that person who will defend Beyonce to death registered under a new screen name.

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Reply #136 posted 02/24/15 12:32pm

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starbelly said:

mjscarousal said:

Common and John Legend talked about slavery and the stuggle black people have to go through in their Oscar acceptance speech Sunday. I thought it was really fake and phony especially after what they did to Ledisi. I don't like pretentious fake black "afrocentrics" who talk about the struggles of black America and historically BUT when it comes to putting their money where their mouth is they shit on their own kind. They are SUPER fake, seriously. How can you seriously talk about black people struggling BUT you gave the OKAY for someone to steal another black singer's spotlight? Really Common? Really?

Exactly. Their pro-blackness apparently went out the window when campaigning for that Oscar win. They probably thought Beyonce performing it would help them even more. She's a big name and White people love her. lol



I was disappointed in Common for going along with it and not speaking up for Ledisi, I don't even expect much from John though lol. But I hope someone apologized to Ledisi (all 3 of them should) because she said she was disappointed about it so that's the least they could do.

I was as well. Common is great rapper but as far as I am concerned he showed his "true" colors. I don't take his "pro-black image" seriously any more.

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Reply #137 posted 02/24/15 4:45pm

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mjscarousal said:

starbelly said:

Exactly. Their pro-blackness apparently went out the window when campaigning for that Oscar win. They probably thought Beyonce performing it would help them even more. She's a big name and White people love her. lol



I was disappointed in Common for going along with it and not speaking up for Ledisi, I don't even expect much from John though lol. But I hope someone apologized to Ledisi (all 3 of them should) because she said she was disappointed about it so that's the least they could do.

I was as well. Common is great rapper but as far as I am concerned he showed his "true" colors. I don't take his "pro-black image" seriously any more.

For some reason, I think Common may have wanted Ledisi but got bullied into dealing with Beyawnce stealing the spotlight (again). I would imagine that Common wouldn't have been able to lobby for Ledisi the way that we think he would have been able to. I think Beyawnce is one of the most overrated, overexposed and overbearing artists out there these days. Her PR machine works in overtime to make her out to be some kind of sweet and wholesome woman but I think she's anything but that. I think it was messed up that Ledisi didn't get her moment to shine but it just shows how cutthroat the industry really is. Beyawnce's "girl power" theme that she always totes around is nothing but bullshit.

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Reply #138 posted 02/24/15 5:31pm

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starbelly said:

damacy said:

Not what happened.

Ledisi was not invited to perform by the Grammys. As an Album of the Year nominee, Beyoncé was. Beyoncé approached John Legend and Common and asked to use HER performance slot to introduce their performance, which would probably explain why they got to close the show. Someone between the three of them came up with the idea of her performing "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" (John says Bey did, Common says he did). Beyoncé performed it, it's over, the song does not belong to her, Ledisi, Aretha, Mahalia, or anyone besides Thomas Dorsey. Get over it. The end.

People need to actually be concerned about how Ledisi never gets invited to perform her own material on the BET Awards (where she has never won) or ANY awards show period.

"AT LAST" isn't Beyonce's song either, but tell me how it would look if someone else performed that song while she was promoting Cadillac Records and she was capable of doing it herself? Stans would have a fit.



No shit it isn't Ledisi song but Selma came out LAST MONTH and she was in the movie and on the soundtrack. I don't understand why people keep giving Beyonce excuses like this. She said herself it was her idea to do the song, just look at the behind the scenes video. You can say John and Common greenlit her doing the song but Beyonce probably knew that she would get a "yes" from her being Beyonce alone which is what happened, and that's some shady shit. I'm sure she abuses her power like that often. So it doesn't matter if Ledisi was slated to perform or not, Beyonce had a million other songs to choose from.

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Reply #139 posted 02/24/15 5:50pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

I was as well. Common is great rapper but as far as I am concerned he showed his "true" colors. I don't take his "pro-black image" seriously any more.

For some reason, I think Common may have wanted Ledisi but got bullied into dealing with Beyawnce stealing the spotlight (again). I would imagine that Common wouldn't have been able to lobby for Ledisi the way that we think he would have been able to. I think Beyawnce is one of the most overrated, overexposed and overbearing artists out there these days. Her PR machine works in overtime to make her out to be some kind of sweet and wholesome woman but I think she's anything but that. I think it was messed up that Ledisi didn't get her moment to shine but it just shows how cutthroat the industry really is. Beyawnce's "girl power" theme that she always totes around is nothing but bullshit.

I see your point but I still think Common is in the wrong. I would argue that he could have chosen "not to be apart of it" if he truly did not agree with it that of course would have taken a lot of guts and independence which Common obviously does not have despite what his brand tries to promote.

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Reply #140 posted 02/24/15 5:56pm

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mjscarousal said:

SeventeenDayze said:

For some reason, I think Common may have wanted Ledisi but got bullied into dealing with Beyawnce stealing the spotlight (again). I would imagine that Common wouldn't have been able to lobby for Ledisi the way that we think he would have been able to. I think Beyawnce is one of the most overrated, overexposed and overbearing artists out there these days. Her PR machine works in overtime to make her out to be some kind of sweet and wholesome woman but I think she's anything but that. I think it was messed up that Ledisi didn't get her moment to shine but it just shows how cutthroat the industry really is. Beyawnce's "girl power" theme that she always totes around is nothing but bullshit.

I see your point but I still think Common is in the wrong. I would argue that he could have chosen "not to be apart of it" if he truly did not agree with it that of course would have taken a lot of guts and independence which Common obviously does not have despite what his brand tries to promote.

Yeah I think someone should have had some more backbone and told Beyawnce no. I mean, is she the mafia or something? I have never seen an artist steamroll over so many other artists to make themselves seem more relevant than what they really are. Beyawnce isn't relevant she just has a machine that pushes her onto the masses. I think she is past her best years at this point and she knows it as well. I think she jacked Ledisi of a well-deserved moment and it's another reason why I am NOT a fan of hers and never will be.

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Reply #141 posted 02/24/15 8:27pm

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^^Exactly! I'm sick and tired of seeing people acting like they can't tell Beyonce "no".She's not the damn president of the USA!! mad People need to stop letting her steal the spotlight all the time.They need to stop acting as if she is the only female artist that matters.Let someone else shine,for once!!

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Reply #142 posted 02/24/15 8:55pm

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^^Exactly! I'm sick and tired of seeing people acting like they can't tell Beyonce "no".She's not the damn president of the USA!! mad People need to stop letting her steal the spotlight all the time.They need to stop acting as if she is the only female artist that matters.Let someone else shine,for once!!

I wish she would just go away for a decade or three but I doubt we will be that lucky...

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Reply #143 posted 02/24/15 10:18pm

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Reply #144 posted 02/25/15 4:32am

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damacy said:

Not what happened.

Ledisi was not invited to perform by the Grammys. As an Album of the Year nominee, Beyoncé was. Beyoncé approached John Legend and Common and asked to use HER performance slot to introduce their performance, which would probably explain why they got to close the show. Someone between the three of them came up with the idea of her performing "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" (John says Bey did, Common says he did). Beyoncé performed it, it's over, the song does not belong to her, Ledisi, Aretha, Mahalia, or anyone besides Thomas Dorsey. Get over it. The end.

People need to actually be concerned about how Ledisi never gets invited to perform her own material on the BET Awards (where she has never won) or ANY awards show period.

Ledesi performed on The BET Awards the same year they paid tribute to Whitney. She also performed on "Black Girls Rock"(airs on BET) in 2013...

Wasn't that the year she performed "Out on a Limb"? Not her own material.

Black Girls Rock! isn't the BET Awards.

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Reply #145 posted 02/25/15 4:39am

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SoulAlive said:

damacy said:

Not what happened.

Ledisi was not invited to perform by the Grammys. As an Album of the Year nominee, Beyoncé was. Beyoncé approached John Legend and Common and asked to use HER performance slot to introduce their performance, which would probably explain why they got to close the show. Someone between the three of them came up with the idea of her performing "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" (John says Bey did, Common says he did). Beyoncé performed it, it's over, the song does not belong to her, Ledisi, Aretha, Mahalia, or anyone besides Thomas Dorsey. Get over it. The end.

People need to actually be concerned about how Ledisi never gets invited to perform her own material on the BET Awards (where she has never won) or ANY awards show period.

the bottom line is....Beyonce should NOT have performed the song that Ledesi recorded for the Selma movie.Beyonce has NO connection to that movie or the soundtrack.Ledesi actually appears in the film,playing Mahalia Jackson,and performs the song in the movie and on the soundtrack.Shame on Beyonce for (once again) hogging the spotlight and stealing attention away from someone else who truly deserves it.As you pointed out,Beyonce was already asked to perform.She could have just did one of her own songs.But no,she chooses to do a song that Ledesi recorded.Poor Ledesi was sitting in the audience,unable to finally have "her" big moment because of the greedy,spotlight-stealing Beyonce.Spin it anyway you want,but that is fucked up.

Ledisi appeared in that movie for about sixty seconds. Please.

Beyoncé could perform whatever she (and John Legend, and Common) wanted her to do with her performance and HER mouth, and that is what she did.

The song is older than Selma. The song is older than Beyoncé. The song is older than Ledisi. The song is older than the march on Selma. The song is older than the damn Civil Rights Movement. It doesn't belong to ANY ONE OF THEM.

Ledisi wasn't going to get her "big moment" (in ANOTHER tribute) ANYWAY. NARAS did not invite her to walk on the stage. Beyoncé didn't steal Ledisi's spotlight, there was no spotlight on Ledisi to begin with. End.

And you can't even spell Ledisi's name so I'm sure you can't purchase one of her albums. You should remove that cape.

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Reply #146 posted 02/25/15 4:57am

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starbelly said:

damacy said:

Not what happened.

Ledisi was not invited to perform by the Grammys. As an Album of the Year nominee, Beyoncé was. Beyoncé approached John Legend and Common and asked to use HER performance slot to introduce their performance, which would probably explain why they got to close the show. Someone between the three of them came up with the idea of her performing "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" (John says Bey did, Common says he did). Beyoncé performed it, it's over, the song does not belong to her, Ledisi, Aretha, Mahalia, or anyone besides Thomas Dorsey. Get over it. The end.

People need to actually be concerned about how Ledisi never gets invited to perform her own material on the BET Awards (where she has never won) or ANY awards show period.

"AT LAST" isn't Beyonce's song either, but tell me how it would look if someone else performed that song while she was promoting Cadillac Records and she was capable of doing it herself? Stans would have a fit.



No shit it isn't Ledisi song but Selma came out LAST MONTH and she was in the movie and on the soundtrack. I don't understand why people keep giving Beyonce excuses like this. She said herself it was her idea to do the song, just look at the behind the scenes video. You can say John and Common greenlit her doing the song but Beyonce probably knew that she would get a "yes" from her being Beyonce alone which is what happened, and that's some shady shit. I'm sure she abuses her power like that often. So it doesn't matter if Ledisi was slated to perform or not, Beyonce had a million other songs to choose from.

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And like this argument, that would be stupid because "At Last" isn't Beyoncé's song. HELL. People had SUCH coronaries when Beyoncé sung the song at President Obama's first Inauguration as opposed to Etta James, INCLUDING Etta James and THAT was stupid because it wasn't Etta's song either.

Not to mention the First Couple danced to that song at nine other Inaugural Balls (and you can BET somebody sang it live at one of them) and nobody had their heads for not dragging Beyoncé to all of them.

It's not Ledisi's song YEAH NO SHIT. So there really isn't anything else to say about the matter, now is there. No question mark for a reason.

Beyoncé did NOT say it was her idea to sing the song in that video. Here, check again. As a matter of fact, Beyoncé hasn't said anything about this foolshit, and she probably never will. Good for her not descending into a pack of idiots like I unfortunately chose to this morning.

Beyoncé had a million songs to choose from, including "Take My Hand, Precious Lord". Guess which one she (or John, or Common, or any combination of the three) chose?

Ledisi had no songs to choose from because she was never performing. SO!

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Reply #147 posted 02/25/15 5:11am

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Oh, it's that person who will defend Beyonce to death registered under a new screen name.

falloff

The orange font still gets on my nerves.

Well, gouge your fat-ass eyes out and you won't have to see it.

Or I can do it for you.

Or you can shut your Acer.

Or you can shut UP.

Those are your four options because I post in #ff6600 and it is not changing. Deal.

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Reply #148 posted 02/25/15 6:44am

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novabrkr said:

Oh, it's that person who will defend Beyonce to death registered under a new screen name.

falloff

The orange font still gets on my nerves.

LOL You're completely right. In which case I'ma keep it moving. No time for delusional stans.

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Reply #149 posted 02/25/15 6:53am

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It's hilarious that people have created a counterfeit scenario in their minds of Beyonce stealing some phantom career making "moment" from Ledesi when Ledesi was never slated to appear on the Grammy's at all. Do you get that?! She...wasn't...invited...to...perform...period. She wasn't a consideration. Beyonce or no Beyonce, the Grammys didn't want Ledesi. No one "took" anything from her. She wasn't going to get that stage. Hell, did she even have a ticket to sit in the audience and watch the show, or was she stuck watching it on the backstage monitors with the caterers?

Next, these embittered souls will be mad that Beyonce didn't take it upon on herself to act as Ledesi's agent and campaign for the Grammy's to invite her...just like they're still mad at Justin for not taking it upon himself to pick fights with the media on Janet's behalf so that his career could die along with hers. Don't get mad at these artists and their teams for being competent in playing the game of the chess that is the music business, while others are more inept. It would have been "nice," I suppose, if the Grammy's had extended Ledesi an invite to perform that song -- but they didn't. Boo-Hoo. You can't "steal" something that was unclaimed. If Ledesi wanted that "moment," then she should have asked for it. She didn't. Beyonce did, and she got it. No one owes Ledesi anything. Her career is for her to build. Take that sanctimoneous and idealistic appalled/bleeding heart shit elsewhere.

It's also hilarious how all this happened weeks ago now, the rest of the media/world got over this "controversy" shortly after the telecast, yet the embittered souls of long-pressed orgers predictably continue to moan as they pick at their own scabs over this. Heh. Well, bleed.

"Janet Jackson is like an 80s sitcom that's been off the air for over 25 years; you see a rerun and realize it wasn't that great..."
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