Frederick96 said:

Scorp said:

I am LOVIN this album. The originals are GEMS. Michael's vocals are EVERYTHING. I miss him so much. God bless you Mike, muah

Cinnamon234 said:

Scorp said:

a real live circus....

this "album" was never meant to recognize Michael Jackson.....it was never about that......

not for one second

I have no idea what you're talking about here as usual. Talking in circles once again. There's no circus going on. FOR ONCE! which is rare when it comes to Michael. Yes the album is about making a profit of course if that's what you're alluding too. Of course this is a business and the estate and SONY will continue to make a profit. In the estate's case, I'm pretty sure MJ would want that since any money made by the MJ estate benefits Katherine and MJ's kids. Anyhow, if some "fans" like yourself don't want to buy the album or aren't interested that's fine but it is silly imo to dismiss the project as being a "circus". I'm pretty sure you haven't even listened to the album. This is why I don't get when people on this site say that MJ fans always love everything he does or worships everything he does. Clearly that's not the case. MJ fans complain about everything! The biggest complainers and most difficult fans to please after Prince fans lol. I swear. If it was all about making a dollar only and not wanting to recognize MJ's artistry, they could've just re-released a super duper exclusive version of "Thriller" for the 5 billionth time. They can be just like Whitney's estate and not do anything. They don't have to release any "new" MJ songs or albums or work on any MJ related projects and they could just let MJ fade away and be forgotten for good but then some fans would complain about that of course. The point is that there's no conspiracy here. Nothing sinister going on. Please. Give me a break.

the last thing I'm doing is complaining about this album....trust me

my complaint over the past quarter center plus is a whole other issue

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darthbane2k said:

Even the included so called 'original versions' aren't good enough. Take blue gangsta - the 'original' one on the album is missing instruments. Listen to this http://m.youtube.com/watc...iqsEUMymzg and the instrumentation compared to the xscape deluxe edition version. Why didn't we get that quality in MJ solo form?

If they released this without the nonsensical rapping, then yes, it would be an interesting mix.

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Just received email from SiriusXM. Limited run MJ station, 15th through 26th. Channel 50 [Edited 5/15/14 20:03pm]

I wonder if any of the BAD25 unreleased songs would have made the cut if they hadn't already been released. 'Al Capone' contemporized might have been something.

Marrk said:

I wonder if any of the BAD25 unreleased songs would have made the cut if they hadn't already been released. 'Al Capone' contemporized might have been something.

Derek1984 said:

Marrk said:

I wonder if any of the BAD25 unreleased songs would have made the cut if they hadn't already been released. 'Al Capone' contemporized might have been something.

Sunset Driver also has some potential if it were to be contemporized.

Michael Jackson and The Black Keys continue to be locked in a head to head battle for the US #1.
Disney’s Frozen soundtrack falls out of the Top 3 for the first time in 20 weeks.

Here's how it looks headed into the weekend.

Michael Jackson (Epic) 145-155k
The Black Keys (Nonesuch/Warner Bros.) 145-155k
Now 50 (NOW) 75-80k
Frozen (Walt Disney) 65-70k
Rascal Flatts (Big Machine) 55-60k
Dolly Parton (Sony Masterworks) 35-40k
Hunter Hayes (Atlantic) 18-21k
Tori Amos (Mercury) 17-19k
Pharrell Williams (Columbia) 15-17K
Michael W. Smith (Sparrow) 15-17k

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi
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[Edited 5/16/14 9:04am]

Important updates re: the MJ/JB Hologram performance

And

Michael Jackson Hologram

Lawsuit Threatens Billboard Music Awards Performance

5/16/2014 7:13 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz31tiB1ybF

Scorp said:

Romeoblu said:

Loving you the original sounds like the tape is warped or off key, is it meant to sound like that. It really ruins it for me.

Timbo mentions it on the documentary. I've only noticed it at the beginnning after he mentioned it. It's not supposed to be like that, i'm amazed that couldn't be fixed. But like Timbaland, i don't think it's all that bad. You got a good ear for spotting it though.

Marrk said:

Romeoblu said:

Loving you the original sounds like the tape is warped or off key, is it meant to sound like that. It really ruins it for me.

Timbo mentions it on the documentary. I've only noticed it at the beginnning after he mentioned it. It's not supposed to be like that, i'm amazed that couldn't be fixed. But like Timbaland, i don't think it's all that bad. You got a good ear for spotting it though.

Derek1984 said:

Who is this Joe Vogel dude? Is he just a guy who is a big fan that wrote a book about unreleased stuff? I was wondering why he was included in the linear notes of Xscape and why he got to hear the album before it came out. Why doesn't this guy try to contact the likes of Barnes, Bottrell, etc. and get some real info. Was Loving You even included in his book as being unreleased?

He's the author of Man In The Music which came out a couple of years back.

Cloudbuster said:

Derek1984 said:

Who is this Joe Vogel dude? Is he just a guy who is a big fan that wrote a book about unreleased stuff? I was wondering why he was included in the linear notes of Xscape and why he got to hear the album before it came out. Why doesn't this guy try to contact the likes of Barnes, Bottrell, etc. and get some real info. Was Loving You even included in his book as being unreleased?

He's the author of Man In The Music which came out a couple of years back.

I have no connection with Joe Vogel, but I would say without hesitation that this book is the single best book on the MUSICAL ART of Michael Jackson I have ever come across, and that any fan who love's Jackson's music and wants to know more about the story of his adult career through his music (which is the only thing that truly matters imo), then do get hold of this book .

Miles said:

Cloudbuster said:

He's the author of Man In The Music which came out a couple of years back.

I have no connection with Joe Vogel, but I would say without hesitation that this book is the single best book on the MUSICAL ART of Michael Jackson I have ever come across, and that any fan who love's Jackson's music and wants to know more about the story of his adult career through his music (which is the only thing that truly matters imo), then do get hold of this book .

Miles said:

I have no connection with Joe Vogel, but I would say without hesitation that this book is the single best book on the MUSICAL ART of Michael Jackson I have ever come across, and that any fan who love's Jackson's music and wants to know more about the story of his adult career through his music (which is the only thing that truly matters imo), then do get hold of this book .

Pretty much the only in depth study of the man's work, unfortunately. Still I agree, indeed a good book.

Cloudbuster said:

Miles said:

I have no connection with Joe Vogel, but I would say without hesitation that this book is the single best book on the MUSICAL ART of Michael Jackson I have ever come across, and that any fan who love's Jackson's music and wants to know more about the story of his adult career through his music (which is the only thing that truly matters imo), then do get hold of this book .

Pretty much the only in depth study of the man's work, unfortunately. Still I agree, indeed a good book.

Yeah, it's pretty solid, only a couple of factual errors that i can't recall right now. Seems very well researched.

Derek1984 said:

Marrk said:

I wonder if any of the BAD25 unreleased songs would have made the cut if they hadn't already been released. 'Al Capone' contemporized might have been something.

Sunset Driver also has some potential if it were to be contemporized.

I was thinking about some of the tracks that had been included on Bad25 and The Ultimate Collection. 'I'm so Blue' is one that may have gone unnoticed on Bad25 (not by fans necessarily). That is a beautiful track and could have fitted well into this project.

'We've had enough' would have been another interesting one to have been re-worked

Glascutter said:

Derek1984 said:

Sunset Driver also has some potential if it were to be contemporized.

I was thinking about some of the tracks that had been included on Bad25 and The Ultimate Collection. 'I'm so Blue' is one that may have gone unnoticed on Bad25 (not by fans necessarily). That is a beautiful track and could have fitted well into this project.

'We've had enough' would have been another interesting one to have been re-worked

I can see another project like 'Xscape' somewhere down the line. Apart from perhaps the Black Keys crying foul, it's been a very positive response. People seemingly don't want or are prepared to let him go. That's a fact.

Derek1984 said:

Haven't bought his book yet. Maybe I will at somepoint. I just wonder where he gets his info. Does he try to contact producers like Barnes?

There's a fair bit of new interview material combined with dissections of old (and often grossly unfair) album reviews and some info taken from the gearslutz website. The most insightful contribution comes from Vogel himself with his assessment of Jackson's work, the cultural climate of the times and the impact the albums, songs, performances and videos had on the world of entertainment.

A book certainly worthy of your attention.

Marrk said:

Yeah, it's pretty solid, only a couple of factual errors that i can't recall right now. Seems very well researched.

A few minor errors, yeah, but overall great work by a generous man who clearly respects his subject.

We need to keep this gif alive just for Marlon's face.

Cloudbuster said:

Marrk said:

Yeah, it's pretty solid, only a couple of factual errors that i can't recall right now. Seems very well researched.

A few minor errors, yeah, but overall great work by a generous man who clearly respects his subject.

I've got a few, this is the best book (after death ) on MJ without a doubt. Even if you ony have a passable interest in him, it's really worth owning.

Cloudbuster said:

We need to keep this gif alive just for Marlon's face.

Deal. Jesus Christ or Michael Jackson, whoever, please give me the Triumph or Victory tours on DVD. Both preferably. Cheers.