NaughtyKitty said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Did Billboard Use a Micha... Hologram?

Monday, May 19, 2014

The Internet is buzzing about an odd Michael Jackson impersonation that was billed as the King of Pop returning to perform a new song in the form of a Hologram at the 2014 Billboard Awards. Whether it was hologram technology or not, it clearly was a Michael Jackson impersonation.

The (Caucasian) impersonator did not look like Michael and the body wasn’t his. The technology is here to bring Michael Jackson back onscreen — using an impersonator and superimposing his face over the impersonator’s face. But that’s not what we saw on the Billboard Awards last night.

Besides the fact that he’s dead, Michael has never performed that song particular before. So there would be no way to superimpose his face singing that new song.

Still, gullible Americans were manipulated into believing the drivel they saw onscreen during the Billboard Awards was really Michael Jackson appearing through the magic of Hologram technology.

It just goes to show you that mass delusions are real.

Yes to all of this!

all true

I DVR'ed the Billboard Awards, and I've watched the performance 7 times already since it aired. I know there are A LOT of differing views and opinions about this among the fanbase, but personally I enjoyed it very, very much. I don't think it's trying to "bring the real Michael Jackson back" at all. That's impossible to do. It's quite obviously a hologram -- I notice some of the mouth movements don't seem natural or fluid. But, for what it is, it's quite extraordinary to me!

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As an entertainer, Michael loved to "WOW" people and fill them with a sense of wonder, and I think that this holographic technology does that. For those that call the music industry hypocritical for seeming to revere MJ today, when they seemed to condemn him while he was still with us, the sad truth is, like Joni Mitchell sang, "You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone." Many people never get the respect they deserve until *after* they've passed on.

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A part of me does indeed understand the argument of things like this hologram being exploitative of Michael's image, and yet another part of me can't help but feel like it's a wonderful, creative way of keeping his memory alive. JMHO

bluefish said:

For those that call the music industry hypocritical for seeming to revere MJ today, when they seemed to condemn him while he was still with us, the sad truth is, like Joni Mitchell sang, "You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone." Many people never get the respect they deserve until *after* they've passed on.

You're giving the media and the music industry too much credit. It's not as simple and lighthearted as "You don't know what you've got till it's gone" in the slightest. Whenever there was an opportunity to demonize him, the media seized it and ran with it and then he dies and they act like they never hated the man. That's bullshit. Hardly anyone was there for MJ when he needed support the most and if he were still with us today, it would be no different.

The problem I have is with the way they sold it. Ludachris kept saying things like "Michael Jackson will be appearing Live." As if MJ himself was coming out of his grave to make the performance. They sold it pre-show as a brilliant hologram. During the show they kept talking about mJ as if it was he himself performing. Anyway I expected a hologram of MJ, not an impersonator...that was disgusting. Had they just said. " A tribute performance by MJ impersonator..." it would have been cool.

This reminds me of them trying to pass off certain tracks on "Michael" as MJ...not cool.

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DonRants said:

The problem I have is with the way they sold it. Ludachris kept saying things like "Michael Jackson will be appearing Live." As if MJ himself was coming out of his grave to make the performance. They sold it pre-show as a brilliant hologram. During the show they kept talking about mJ as if it was he himself performing. Anyway I expected a hologram of MJ, not an impersonator...that was disgusting. Had they just said. " A tribute performance by MJ impersonator..." it would have been cool.

This reminds me of them trying to pass off certain tracks on "Michael" as MJ...not cool.

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All of this. That's why so many hated this performance. Its like they did a bait and switch. They shouldnt have hyped and marketed this as a genuine Michael Jackson performance by using a real Michael Jackson hologram. They should have marketed it as a Michael Jackson tribute performance because that's basically what it was. But oh well...

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MotownSubdivision said:

bluefish said:

For those that call the music industry hypocritical for seeming to revere MJ today, when they seemed to condemn him while he was still with us, the sad truth is, like Joni Mitchell sang, "You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone." Many people never get the respect they deserve until *after* they've passed on.

You're giving the media and the music industry too much credit. It's not as simple and lighthearted as "You don't know what you've got till it's gone" in the slightest. Whenever there was an opportunity to demonize him, the media seized it and ran with it and then he dies and they act like they never hated the man. That's bullshit. Hardly anyone was there for MJ when he needed support the most and if he were still with us today, it would be no different.

Yes, the media loved to write BS about him at all times but now it's a different story because of the power of social media. In many ways I would have wished for Michael to have been around during this era of social media because it could have possibly been a bit of a better situation for him since the presence of us fans/stans is very high on social media and since magazines etc are dependant on peoples interaction - I do think it would have been a bit different, at least on online media.

Derek1984 said:

The only book I've read on Michael Jackson is Moonwalker. Which of course, was an autobiography and a great read. Really the only book on MJ that I care about since it's straight from the source.

What about Dancing the dream :O ? A must read for any Michael Jackson fan!!

GoldDolphin said:

Derek1984 said:

The only book I've read on Michael Jackson is Moonwalker. Which of course, was an autobiography and a great read. Really the only book on MJ that I care about since it's straight from the source.

What about Dancing the dream :O ? A must read for any Michael Jackson fan!!

I bought that book in '92. To this day I haven't fully read it. So no, it's not a must read. Not at all.

In other news, according to HitsDailyDouble Xscape will be #1 in the US, but it's awfully close, too close to really be sure. Lets hope their guestimate is right and won't swing back into the black keys favor:

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That is so immensely fucked up. That has nothing to do with remembering or "honoring" him, his legacy or what he did. It's only sensationalism and using a dead star for attention and money.

His sister Janet's next!!

NaughtyKitty said:

When were these taken?

Stop complaining, it was brilliant PR wise, thats what MJ wants, more shock value to promote his name and act. Even god likes it lol MJ's status will live on for centuries , they wont wipe him away that easily, cause the fans speaks, not controllers. MJ rocks forever to the universe.

purplethunder3121 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

When were these taken?

Looks like the video shoot for In The Closet

Quincy Jones On Michael Jackson's 'Xscape': 'It's About Money'

http://www.billboard.com/...bout-money

getxxxx said:

Quincy Jones On Michael Jackson's 'Xscape': 'It's About Money'

http://www.billboard.com/...bout-money

that's EXACTLY, all and everthing this is about...nothing more.....

well of course it's about money....that's why it's called the music business

SoulAlive said:

well of course it's about money....that's why it's called the music business

lollll

getxxxx said:

Quincy Jones On Michael Jackson's 'Xscape': 'It's About Money'

http://www.billboard.com/...bout-money

said the man, who is suing the Estate for the money!
I can not tolerate this hypocrisy.

LiLi1992 said:

getxxxx said:

Quincy Jones On Michael Jackson's 'Xscape': 'It's About Money'

http://www.billboard.com/...bout-money

said the man, who is suing the Estate for the money!
I can not tolerate this hypocrisy.

Exactly. He's still miffed that they didn't cut him in on the profits of the last albums. Hello pot, meet kettle. I so don't have any sympathies left for that man.

Quincy is just pissed because they didn't ask him to be involved with this project.

Aint nobody checking for Quincy unless it's related to Michael Jackson tho, that's why he's so damn bitter and keeps talking about having worked with other artists like Ray Charles etc. It's a shame that at this point of his life he can't get over the fact that Michael was amazingly talented artist (probably the most talented!) People always like to forget that MJ wrote his biggest hits and produced them as well and did so before Quincy even co-produced OTW and Thriller. What about his input as a producer on Destiny and Triumph (Tito talked about this in one of his interviews, can't remember which one right now)? Q should just stop it and start talkin about Tevin or something....

as usual....a majority of MJ's current following direct their hate at the wrong source

I think this is so unfortunate, because all the information we need to determine whether or not Quincy Jones was relevant before we knew who Michael Jackson was is available on the internet but yet the majority chooses to uphold the narrative that he rode MJ'S name to glory......

but these are the real facts of the matter:

-Learned how to play trumpet at age 11

First score learned was Igor Stravinsky’s “Firebird Suite

at the age of 17, Quincy joined Lionel Hampton's musical band, Lionel Hampton was one of the country's greatest musicians of the 20th century and he asked Quincy to join his bad

in 1956, he was performing in Jazz legend Dizzy Gillespie's musical band around the world

Quincy Jones became the first black person to be promoted as Vice-President of a major music label back in the 60s.....

composition “I Can’t Stop Loving You”

repeating, Quincy Jones was the first black person ever to score the Academy Awards and the theme music for Sanford and Son is one of the most recognizable efforts for

repeating, Quincy scored the most heavily viewed TV mini series of all time in ROOTS....this was before the The Wiz

Everyone in the music industry from every endeavor wanted Quincy to work on their projects in one form or fashion INCLUDING MIchael Jackson himself

it was not Quincy who approached Michael to produce OFF THE WALL, it was Michael who approached Quincy seeking a producer for his debut adult solo album

IN THE 80S

"The Dude" was releaseed in 1981, more than a year earlier than the release of Thriller and that album won a series of Grammy Awards in the process....so nobody can suggest "The Dude" was riding the coattails of MJ

IN THE 1990S

and I can tell by the continuous hate unleashed by the majority of the following, they dont' have a clue that Quincy remained just as active after working with MJ over the years than he had ever been.....but none of these facts were ever mention by commercial media, which makes it seems that Quincy's career was done after BAD

THROUGHOUT QUINCY'S ENTIRE CAREER

His career has spanned over the course of the past 6 decades, and in no doubt should go down in history as the music field's greatest, most prolific, and accomplished producer who's ever done it

but yet, the majority hold on the narrative that he's senile, all generated by contrived hate that is totally misdirected

he was already the best producer of all time before him and MJ starting working together

but the education system don't teach this stuff and it's so sad

OH, one last thing......that musical theme we here during those AUSTIN POWER'S movies staring Mike Meyers, that musical theme is SOUL BOSA NOVA, which Quincy arranged back in the 1960s, and that same musical theme was played at outdoor soccer stadiums in the 90s during the World Cup event....rappers have sampled the theme song including Ludacris

[Edited 5/22/14 1:42am]

"Love Never Felt So Good" by Michael Jackson & Justin Timberlake jumps from #22 to #9 in its third week on the Hot 100. This makes Jackson the only artist in Hot 100 history to land a top 10 hit in each of five decades. He passes five artists who have notched top 10 hits in each of four decades: Barbra Streisand, Cher, Aerosmith, Madonna and Whitney Houston.

Making this even more amazing, if you combine Jackson's solo hits with his hits with the Jackson 5, he has made the top 10 in each of six decades. The J5's debut hit, "I Want You Back," first made the top 10 the last week of 1969.

As Billboard's Gary Trust notes, Jackson also sets a new record for the longest span of top 10 hits in Hot 100 history. He first cracked the top 10 (as a solo artist) in November 1971 with "Got To Be There." This week's chart is dated May 31, which gives him a 42 year and six month span of top 10 hits. He passes Santana, whose top 10 hits span 33 years and eight months.

"Love Never Felt So Good" is Jackson's 29th top 10 hit. Since the Hot 100 began in August 1958, only two artists have amassed as many or more top 10 hits: Madonna (38) and the Beatles (34). This is Jackson's 40th top 10 hit if you add in eight top 10 hits with the Jackson 5 and three with the re-named the Jacksons. It's Timberlake's 16th top 10 hit (his 22nd if you add in six *NSYNC hits).

This is Jackson's fourth top 10 hit on which he shared billing, following "The Girl Is Mine" and "Say Say Say" (both with Paul McCartney) and "Scream" (with Janet Jackson). (Siedah Garrett sang an uncredited backup vocal on "I Just Can't Stop Loving You").

Jackson co-wrote "Love Never Felt So Good" with pop veteran Paul Anka. Anka wrote 11 of his 12 top 10 hits as an artist. (That was unusual when he started in 1957, especially for a teen artist.) Anka's only top 10 hit that he didn't write was his last, the nostalgic ballad "Times Of Your Life."

Timberlake was just two when Jackson recorded this pop-disco tune in 1983. At that time, with disco winding down (and Prince coming on strong), it might have seemed a little dated. Now it's like a little lost gem. Johnny Mathis recorded the song on his 1984 album A Special Part Of Me.

Timberlake has a second hit in the top 10. His solo smash "Not A Bad Thing" holds at #8 for the third week. Billboard's Trust notes that this is the 13th time that Timberlake has had two songs in the top 10 at the same time. That's a lot of doubling up.

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/chart-watch-mj-makes-hot-100-history-225547952.html

SoulAlive said:

Looks like Michael Jackson has the Number One album in the US this week Nice to see his music still making an impact ,after all these years.

Entered at #2 behind The Black Keys.

Scorp said:

as usual....a majority of MJ's current following direct their hate at the wrong source

I think this is so unfortunate, because all the information we need to determine whether or not Quincy Jones was relevant before we knew who Michael Jackson was is available on the internet but yet the majority chooses to uphold the narrative that he rode MJ'S name to glory......

but these are the real facts of the matter:

-Learned how to play trumpet at age 11

•Musical inspiration was Ray Charles

• Attended Berklee College of Music in Boston

• Joined Lionel Hampton’s r&b/blues band as trumpeter

• Became a freelance arranger in New York City

• Agreed to music direct Count Basie’s travelling band

•Received first award of merit as an arranger in 1956

• Began writing music for Barclay Records in France

• Studied composition and theory from Nadia Boulanger

• Boulanger was one of 20th century’s best music tutors

First score learned was Igor Stravinsky’s “Firebird Suite

at the age of 17, Quincy joined Lionel Hampton's musical band, Lionel Hampton was one of the country's greatest musicians of the 20th century and he asked Quincy to join his bad

•Began scoring for major musicals

• Formed his own jazz band

• Recorded song “Birth of a Band” winning wave reviews

• Signed with Mercury Records as A&R representative

• Promoted as Vice-President of Mercury

in 1956, he was performing in Jazz legend Dizzy Gillespie's musical band around the world

Quincy Jones became the first black person to be promoted as Vice-President of a major music label back in the 60s.....

•Earned 1st Grammy Award for arranging Count Basie’s

composition “I Can’t Stop Loving You”

• Scored for Frank Sinatra and Count Basie’s Orchestra

• Scored first feature length film “The Pawnbroker

• Began scoring major TV shows also

also in the 60s, Quincy was scoring music for the likes of Frank Sinatra himself and Count Basie, another great luminarie in the musical field....Quincy also became the first black person to score a feature length film which extended to major TV shows

ALL THIS HAPPENED before the world even knew who Michael Jackson was, before J-5 debuted on the scene at Motown with I WANT YOU BACK in 1969.......

Quincy was already the most sought after musical arranger and producer in the industry before 1970 hit

•Composed musical theme for TV Show “Sanford & Son”

• Began to champion social activism with his music

• First black person to score the Academy Awards in 1973

• Co-produced a major special honoring Duke Ellington

repeating, Quincy Jones was the first black person ever to score the Academy Awards and the theme music for Sanford and Son is one of the most recognizable efforts for

•Scored for the Mini-Series “Roots” in 1977

• Musical arranger for “The Wiz” in 1978

repeating, Quincy scored the most heavily viewed TV mini series of all time in ROOTS....this was before the The Wiz

Everyone in the music industry from every endeavor wanted Quincy to work on their projects in one form or fashion INCLUDING MIchael Jackson himself

it was not Quincy who approached Michael to produce OFF THE WALL, it was Michael who approached Quincy seeking a producer for his debut adult solo album

IN THE 80S

•Scored for the movie “The Color Purple” in 1986

• Throughout the 80’s, released two albums of his own

• “The Dude” and “Back On The Block”

• Both albums earned him a total of 8 Grammy Awards

"The Dude" was releaseed in 1981, more than a year earlier than the release of Thriller and that album won a series of Grammy Awards in the process....so nobody can suggest "The Dude" was riding the coattails of MJ

IN THE 1990S

•Co-produced “Fresh Prince” starring Will Smith

• Co-produced “In The House” starring L.L. Cool J.

• He scored for the TV program “In The Heat of the Night” starring Carrol O'Connor and Howard Rollins

• Musical arranger for President Clinton’s Inauguration

and I can tell by the continuous hate unleashed by the majority of the following, they dont' have a clue that Quincy remained just as active after working with MJ over the years than he had ever been.....but none of these facts were ever mention by commercial media, which makes it seems that Quincy's career was done after BAD

•Founded “Vibe” Magazine in 1995

• Released the album “Q’s Jook Joint” the same year

• The album celebrated Quincy’s 50 years in music

• Focused on educational tools and humanitarian cause

• Began to address world debt relief for struggling nations

THROUGHOUT QUINCY'S ENTIRE CAREER

•Has scored 33 major films and dozens of TV shows

• Arranged over 500 recordings

• Nominated for 77 Grammy Awards, winning 27 in all

• Seven Oscar Nominations

• Won an Emmy Award

•Received distinction by National Endowment of the Arts

• The distinction identified him as “The Jazz Master”

• The nation’s highest jazz honor

His career has spanned over the course of the past 6 decades, and in no doubt should go down in history as the music field's greatest, most prolific, and accomplished producer who's ever done it

but yet, the majority hold on the narrative that he's senile, all generated by contrived hate that is totally misdirected

he was already the best producer of all time before him and MJ starting working together

but the education system don't teach this stuff and it's so sad

OH, one last thing......that musical theme we here during those AUSTIN POWER'S movies staring Mike Meyers, that musical theme is SOUL BOSA NOVA, which Quincy arranged back in the 1960s, and that same musical theme was played at outdoor soccer stadiums in the 90s during the World Cup event....rappers have sampled the theme song including Ludacris

[Edited 5/22/14 1:42am]

It doesn't excuse him acting like a giant twat.

Marrk said:

Scorp said:

as usual....a majority of MJ's current following direct their hate at the wrong source

I think this is so unfortunate, because all the information we need to determine whether or not Quincy Jones was relevant before we knew who Michael Jackson was is available on the internet but yet the majority chooses to uphold the narrative that he rode MJ'S name to glory......

but these are the real facts of the matter:

-Learned how to play trumpet at age 11

•Musical inspiration was Ray Charles

• Attended Berklee College of Music in Boston

• Joined Lionel Hampton’s r&b/blues band as trumpeter

• Became a freelance arranger in New York City

• Agreed to music direct Count Basie’s travelling band

•Received first award of merit as an arranger in 1956

• Began writing music for Barclay Records in France

• Studied composition and theory from Nadia Boulanger

• Boulanger was one of 20th century’s best music tutors

First score learned was Igor Stravinsky’s “Firebird Suite

at the age of 17, Quincy joined Lionel Hampton's musical band, Lionel Hampton was one of the country's greatest musicians of the 20th century and he asked Quincy to join his bad

•Began scoring for major musicals

• Formed his own jazz band

• Recorded song “Birth of a Band” winning wave reviews

• Signed with Mercury Records as A&R representative

• Promoted as Vice-President of Mercury

in 1956, he was performing in Jazz legend Dizzy Gillespie's musical band around the world

Quincy Jones became the first black person to be promoted as Vice-President of a major music label back in the 60s.....

•Earned 1st Grammy Award for arranging Count Basie’s

composition “I Can’t Stop Loving You”

• Scored for Frank Sinatra and Count Basie’s Orchestra

• Scored first feature length film “The Pawnbroker

• Began scoring major TV shows also

also in the 60s, Quincy was scoring music for the likes of Frank Sinatra himself and Count Basie, another great luminarie in the musical field....Quincy also became the first black person to score a feature length film which extended to major TV shows

ALL THIS HAPPENED before the world even knew who Michael Jackson was, before J-5 debuted on the scene at Motown with I WANT YOU BACK in 1969.......

Quincy was already the most sought after musical arranger and producer in the industry before 1970 hit

•Composed musical theme for TV Show “Sanford & Son”

• Began to champion social activism with his music

• First black person to score the Academy Awards in 1973

• Co-produced a major special honoring Duke Ellington

repeating, Quincy Jones was the first black person ever to score the Academy Awards and the theme music for Sanford and Son is one of the most recognizable efforts for

•Scored for the Mini-Series “Roots” in 1977

• Musical arranger for “The Wiz” in 1978

repeating, Quincy scored the most heavily viewed TV mini series of all time in ROOTS....this was before the The Wiz

Everyone in the music industry from every endeavor wanted Quincy to work on their projects in one form or fashion INCLUDING MIchael Jackson himself

it was not Quincy who approached Michael to produce OFF THE WALL, it was Michael who approached Quincy seeking a producer for his debut adult solo album

IN THE 80S

•Scored for the movie “The Color Purple” in 1986

• Throughout the 80’s, released two albums of his own

• “The Dude” and “Back On The Block”

• Both albums earned him a total of 8 Grammy Awards

"The Dude" was releaseed in 1981, more than a year earlier than the release of Thriller and that album won a series of Grammy Awards in the process....so nobody can suggest "The Dude" was riding the coattails of MJ

IN THE 1990S

•Co-produced “Fresh Prince” starring Will Smith

• Co-produced “In The House” starring L.L. Cool J.

• He scored for the TV program “In The Heat of the Night” starring Carrol O'Connor and Howard Rollins

• Musical arranger for President Clinton’s Inauguration

and I can tell by the continuous hate unleashed by the majority of the following, they dont' have a clue that Quincy remained just as active after working with MJ over the years than he had ever been.....but none of these facts were ever mention by commercial media, which makes it seems that Quincy's career was done after BAD

•Founded “Vibe” Magazine in 1995

• Released the album “Q’s Jook Joint” the same year

• The album celebrated Quincy’s 50 years in music

• Focused on educational tools and humanitarian cause

• Began to address world debt relief for struggling nations

THROUGHOUT QUINCY'S ENTIRE CAREER

•Has scored 33 major films and dozens of TV shows

• Arranged over 500 recordings

• Nominated for 77 Grammy Awards, winning 27 in all

• Seven Oscar Nominations

• Won an Emmy Award

•Received distinction by National Endowment of the Arts

• The distinction identified him as “The Jazz Master”

• The nation’s highest jazz honor

His career has spanned over the course of the past 6 decades, and in no doubt should go down in history as the music field's greatest, most prolific, and accomplished producer who's ever done it

but yet, the majority hold on the narrative that he's senile, all generated by contrived hate that is totally misdirected

he was already the best producer of all time before him and MJ starting working together

but the education system don't teach this stuff and it's so sad

OH, one last thing......that musical theme we here during those AUSTIN POWER'S movies staring Mike Meyers, that musical theme is SOUL BOSA NOVA, which Quincy arranged back in the 1960s, and that same musical theme was played at outdoor soccer stadiums in the 90s during the World Cup event....rappers have sampled the theme song including Ludacris

[Edited 5/22/14 1:42am]

It doesn't excuse him acting like a giant twat.

the whole situation has been a giant twat for the past 26 years and 9 months to be exact