SoulAlive said:

I think the collaboations/medleys are the best part of the Grammys.It's a good way to educate the young viewers on what real music sounds like Carole King was there performing with some young artist and it was a good performance.Stevie Wonder with Daft Punk was also a great idea that truly worked.Some of these young acts really aren't that good.They actually benefit from being onstage with a seasoned veteran,lol.

Yeah! If the match-up is good, then I also think this is the best part of the Grammy's. I mean you can see these performers do their own stuff on their own all the time. But teaming them up with others is something special.

worst grammy's ever in my opinion but Stevie w/Daft Punk was cool

good article on the show here below which kinda sums up what I was thinking about the music industry in general:

http://www.washingtonpost...story.html

did anyone mention when Pharrell made the joke about Prince? was kinda funny

and what was up with Madonna wearing a grill? she looked old and scary - read here for the reason she wears it:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3...ub1_rROnIU

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Lang Lang is one bad mofo. Prince, watch it, that is how you fucking play piano, sucka.

SoulAlive said:

ufoclub said:

I'm also not a fan of getting multiple different genre performers all up on stage to perform some medley (seeing Lindsey Buckingham perform on the same stage and number as Trent Reznor really feels bad). It kills the mystique of the individual acts and their various fan bases, and exposes the artificial backbone that is all corporate puppet strings instead of some cool unique pioneering individual vibe.

My wish: Stop the multiple performer teamup performances on music awards shows. They are not cool.

I think the collaboations/medleys are the best part of the Grammys.It's a good way to educate the young viewers on what real music sounds like Carole King was there performing with some young artist and it was a good performance.Stevie Wonder with Daft Punk was also a great idea that truly worked.Some of these young acts really aren't that good.They actually benefit from being onstage with a seasoned veteran,lol.

I think all this harmonious bullshit can destroy the image cred of each one's persona. I like my bands and artist seperate and rubbing against each other's flavor and striving to outdo each other and remain unique. Young or old. I think it was cool back in the day to have artists even diss each other on the mic at an awards show. Prince was cool to construct this type of vibe artifically with The Time way back when.

Hip-Hop at the Grammys: Macklemore Wins, Kendrick Lamar and the Rest of Rap Music Lose

'Thrift Shop' and 'Same Love' spitter nearly sweeps rap categories

WRITTEN BY
Brandon Soderberg

The Grammys' continued ghettoizing of the rap awards to the pre-telecast was actually welcome this year: It meant not having to hear Macklemore's name called over and over again and hearing that opportunistic, conscious-rap cornball "aww shucks" his way through a whole bunch of speeches. Macklemore and Ryan Lewis pretty much swept the rap awards, receiving Best Rap Performance and Best Rap Song (for "Thrift Shop"), Best Rap Album (for The Heist), and, during the primetime awards telecast, Best New Artist.

The industry's long been looking to find the white rapper they can hold near and dear to their hearts, ostensibly in an effort to extricate blackness from hip-hop, just as they did with rock music decades earlier. There have been pockets of white novelty rap — as "old school" as Vanilla Ice and as recent as Kreayshawn — and the rub with Eminem was that he never really played the game and always used his whiteness for transgression and subversion and rebellion, rather than selling a culture out. But they've finally cracked the white rapper code with Macklemore, a sanctimonious doofus.

The trick, it turned out, was that Macklemore's novelty isn't just that he's a wacky whiteboy spitting and mugging, or even that he could rap really well (which no longer matters, because rapping is anathema to pop success in the 2000s), but rather, that he's po-faced do-gooder delivering the kinds of messages the rest of rap's too dumb to deliver. It's apparent on the lame and deceptive "Thrift Shop," and the ultimately clueless pro-gay marriage rap, "Same Love," which was given an epic performance piece featuring Madonna and Trombone Shorty, alongside Macklemore, Lewis, vocalist Mary Lambert, and Queen Latifah, who officiated the marriage of 30-plus gay and straight couples.

There are plenty of problems with "Same Love": namely, that its truly problematic hook deigns to even acknowledge the idea that something is "wrong" with homosexuality ("I can't change, even if I tried"), that Macklemore confesses that, Yo! he thought he was gay for a hot minute, too, because he enjoyed drawing as a kid. Consider the sheer number of times the song goes out of its way to clarify that the dude rapping is totally not gay.

There are even more problems with last night's "Same Love" performance. Let's start with Madonna's dicey history with the gay community, having capitalized on voguing and ball culture. Hang your head in shame as CBS cut away from gay couples kissing during the performance. Meanwhile, other elements of "Same Love" quietly reminded relatively aware hip-hop heads of how rap's stance on homosexuality is a little more nuanced than Mackelmore, who rapped "If I was gay I would think hip-hop hates me," a masterful tossing of his creative peers under the bus that also, simultaneously, affirms his own heterosexuality.

The inclusion of Queen Latifah, who has long chosen not to discuss her sexual preference, is an example of the accepting — if not exactly thorough — way that hip-hop has dealt with homosexuality beyond the lunkheaded lyrics that need to go (and have been going away, slowly but surely) for quite some time now. Not addressing it but not speaking out against it certainly isn't ideal (and Queen Latifah is a human being first and a symbol for a movement second, if at all), but it isn't any less sophisticated than the sloppy and hedged "Same Love."

Last night's Macklemore mania also functioned as an epic snub to Kendrick Lamar and his incredible concept album, good kid, m.A.A.d city, which was most certainly the best rap album nominated (Drake's Nothing Was the Same, Jay Z's Magna Carta Holy Grail, and Kanye West's Yeezus were the other nominees). And even Macklemore all but agreed, posting his fawning, apologetic texts to Kendrick on Instagram — because every magnaminous stance this guy takes must go public.

An easy and legitimate compromise here would've been to give Kendrick Rap Album of the Year — which he deserved — and award "Thrift Shop" Best Song and Performance, which it deserved, if only because it was so massively popular. (That the rap arm of the Grammy committee reportedly tried to remove Macklemore from the categories altogether is as short sighted and clueless a measure as Macklemore's privileged rap activism, by the way).

Overall, there's an all too familiar, frustrating sense that the goalposts for what's "good" or "respectable" in hip-hop keep moving. The party line by old farts who don't listen to hip-hop very closely anymore is that the genre lost its way, devolving from its political origins into ignorance and materialism. Putting aside the frustrating assumption that black art must always be first and foremost political, this year's Best Rap Album nominees were all very much in the "sophisticated hip-hop" wheelhouse. The Heist is easily the least nuanced political rap record that got nominated.

Kanye West's Yeezus is an explosive, personal-as-political record that combines noise and techno, speaks on the country's history of racism, and comments on immediate issues like privately owned prisons. Jay Z's Magna Carta Holy Grail is a sincere rumination on what it's like to have made it as a black artist, and promotes a boot-straps-style argument towards success and power that should make even Rand Paul types proud. Drake's Nothing Was t he Same is an epic of interiority that certainly deads the still-prevalent sense that mainstream hip-hop is hateful, violent nonsense.

But for fuck's sake, good kid, m.A.A.d city is tailor made for the Grammys! If there is an issue with the record, it's that it's total Grammy Bait: a rap-filled, incredibly mindful, deeply empathetic album that goes pop strictly on its own terms, while smuggling in some of the most buggy and insightful lyricism on a mainstream rap record in years; a fully-formed concept album that dares to be square, dismissing heavy-drinking, decrying gang violence, and, in one of its most poignant and somber moments, gives voice to a women he mischaracterized on a previous track.

At the Grammys, Kendrick performed "m.A.A.d city.," one of the most vicious and overtly political tracks from the album, with Imagine Dragons, which meant Lamar, who has supported gay mar...interviews, rapped instructive lines like, "You moving backwards if you suggest that you sleep with a TEC" to people who thought a song that begins, "When I was in the third grade 
I thought that I was gay" is somehow more admirable. Yes, this is about how terrible Macklemore is, but more importantly, it's about the indefatigable greatness of Kendrick Lamar.

And once again the Best Time Had At An Awards Show goes to....

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I haven't been paying attention to this awards shows. Was Janelle Monae really shut out of the Grammys? I wasn't even a big fan of Electric Lady, but I thought it would have gotten a few nods.

So happy Lorde wom two. As a New Zealander as well. The whole of my country is exhilarated, especially as she is a 17 year old high school girl.

Just like Australia was in the late 80s, NZ may become the flavour of the month in the USA because of Lorde and the Hobbit

Go KIWI go!

Ryan Lewis is so cute. I wish he was marrying me. Those Madonna red carpet pics have to be fake, is she 137 years old? She makes Dionne and Carol King look like Miss USAs.

ufoclub said:

SoulAlive said:

I think the collaboations/medleys are the best part of the Grammys.It's a good way to educate the young viewers on what real music sounds like Carole King was there performing with some young artist and it was a good performance.Stevie Wonder with Daft Punk was also a great idea that truly worked.Some of these young acts really aren't that good.They actually benefit from being onstage with a seasoned veteran,lol.

I think all this harmonious bullshit can destroy the image cred of each one's persona. I like my bands and artist seperate and rubbing against each other's flavor and striving to outdo each other and remain unique. Young or old. I think it was cool back in the day to have artists even diss each other on the mic at an awards show. Prince was cool to construct this type of vibe artifically with The Time way back when.

come on...you didn't think it was cool seeing Stevie Wonder jammin' with Daft Punk? And Niles Rodgers?! That was so cool

lazycrockett said:

he's like "get out the way,Madonna's coming"

btw,Madonna sprained her ankle recently,which is why she has the cane.A few weeks ago,she was in crutches.

lrn36 said:

I haven't been paying attention to this awards shows. Was Janelle Monae really shut out of the Grammys? I wasn't even a big fan of Electric Lady, but I thought it would have gotten a few nods.

let's face it.. for the most part,if a record doesn't sell big,it gets ignored at the Grammys.

PatrickS77 said:

SoulAlive said:

I think the collaboations/medleys are the best part of the Grammys.It's a good way to educate the young viewers on what real music sounds like Carole King was there performing with some young artist and it was a good performance.Stevie Wonder with Daft Punk was also a great idea that truly worked.Some of these young acts really aren't that good.They actually benefit from being onstage with a seasoned veteran,lol.

Yeah! If the match-up is good, then I also think this is the best part of the Grammy's. I mean you can see these performers do their own stuff on their own all the time. But teaming them up with others is something special.

Yeah,the trick is to pair the right people up.I like the idea of older artists being included on the Grammys.In fact,the older artists are the only reason I would watch the show if the show only featured "artists" like Drake and Miley Cyrus,I would never watch it.

ufoclub said:

SoulAlive said:

Robin Thicke didn't win any awards,so he'll just have to settle with having the year's biggest selling single I think his album deserved a few nods

Actually, he had to settle with Marvin Gaye's family...

No,he didn't the case hasn't gone to court yet

lazycrockett said:

Yeah I was wondering what was up with that. Looked awkward.

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SoulAlive said:

lazycrockett said:

he's like "get out the way,Madonna's coming"

btw,Madonna sprained her ankle recently,which is why she has the cane.A few weeks ago,she was in crutches.

Thanks for that info. She looks great to me, despite unbelievable criticism on the org. I esp. am fond of her MJ glitter glove.

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Kacey Musgraves

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noimageatall said:

In case you missed The GRAMMYs last night, here's what it looked like...

mrsnet said:

SoulAlive said:

he's like "get out the way,Madonna's coming"

btw,Madonna sprained her ankle recently,which is why she has the cane.A few weeks ago,she was in crutches.

Thanks for that info. She looks great to me, despite unbelievable criticism on the org. I esp. am fond of her MJ glitter glove.

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As much as I love Madge, that outfit is just silly and woman you are 55, the flowing hair needs to go already. Plus you can start to see her face slipping close up. Really I am just frustrated because MDNA was such a big piece of shit. Madge needs to stop strutting around like a cross between the world's scariest femmy lesbian and a pimp and get into the studio and make Music part 2.

Pellwormer said:

3rdeyedude said:worst grammy's ever in my opinion but Stevie w/Daft Punk was cool good article on the show here below which kinda sums up what I was thinking about the music industry in general: http://www.washingtonpost...story.html did anyone mention when Pharrell made the joke about Prince? was kinda funny and what was up with Madonna wearing a grill? she looked old and scary - read here for the reason she wears it: http://www.mirror.co.uk/3...ub1_rROnIU [Edited 1/27/14 16:13pm] Yeah, I noticed the Prince reference, too.But as a german I only speak germish (je parle frallemand) and didn't get it as a joke.What does the compare between Daft Punk - Prince mean?

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Yeah, his delivery wasn't all that great so it was easy to miss really. He said "You know, Prince would be proud of these guys right now" since they were not talking - basically meaning Prince would envy them because they are not talking - since Prince is a man of few words.

SoulAlive said:

ufoclub said:

I think all this harmonious bullshit can destroy the image cred of each one's persona. I like my bands and artist seperate and rubbing against each other's flavor and striving to outdo each other and remain unique. Young or old. I think it was cool back in the day to have artists even diss each other on the mic at an awards show. Prince was cool to construct this type of vibe artifically with The Time way back when.

come on...you didn't think it was cool seeing Stevie Wonder jammin' with Daft Punk? And Niles Rodgers?! That was so cool

I didn't think it was cool at all! I think Stevie Wonder and Nile Rodgers are genius though. Was Wonder's mic accidentally off at the beginning there? something Seemed off, tame, and bland about that performance.

Man, I remember Stevie Wonder opening that 9/11 tribute concert with Love is in Need of Love Today... that was strong.

Adorecream said:

mrsnet said:

Thanks for that info. She looks great to me, despite unbelievable criticism on the org. I esp. am fond of her MJ glitter glove.

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As much as I love Madge, that outfit is just silly and woman you are 55, the flowing hair needs to go already. Plus you can start to see her face slipping close up. Really I am just frustrated because MDNA was such a big piece of shit. Madge needs to stop strutting around like a cross between the world's scariest femmy lesbian and a pimp and get into the studio and make Music part 2.

She looks like Boss Hog from Dukes of Hazzard !

I'm glad Lalah Hathaway won a Grammy(Best R&B Performance)...She has such a beautiful & haunting voice...I have no idea who Snark puppy is, but congrats to him as well.

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Pharrell Williams proved he was King of the Night and 2013 by walking away with 4 Grammys including (Producer of The Year).

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And I'm proud of my South Carolina Homie Darius Rucker for making History taking home a Grammy for (Best Country Solo Performance)

SoulAlive said:

it's true

SoulAlive said:

Adorecream said:

mrsnet said:

Thanks for that info. She looks great to me, despite unbelievable criticism on the org. I esp. am fond of her MJ glitter glove.

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As much as I love Madge, that outfit is just silly and woman you are 55, the flowing hair needs to go already. Plus you can start to see her face slipping close up. Really I am just frustrated because MDNA was such a big piece of shit. Madge needs to stop strutting around like a cross between the world's scariest femmy lesbian and a pimp and get into the studio and make Music part 2.

I've never been a huge Madge fan. I hate that she did something with stupid Miley on the MTV Unplugged. And I have to say she didn't sound too good at the Grammys.

But damn...I get tired of the ageism. Despite the fact of her recent idiotic comment on twitter, why all the hate? And really? She needs to cut her hair because she's over 55? Who made that rule? I will never ever cut my hair I don't care if I'm 90.

And what about the suit? Personally I could do without the hat, but Steven Tyler who is 65 and I guess his face has been 'slipping' for a long time, who also had affairs with underage girls and other misadventures and was an addict and alcoholic...had on the same type of suit and when I posted his Grammy pic on a page I run all the women were talking about how hot he is and they love him to death and love his mustache and he looked good on all white yada yada yada. I just don't get it. Men never get the hate women do as they age. Steven's still a stud but Madonna is an aging hag.