I'd like to see some other big name celebrities speak out against Wade....where's Diana Ross? Madonna? Justin Timberlake? Beyonce and Jay-Z?
Wade is trying to drag Michael's reputation through the mud.MJ's famous friends shouldn't stand by and let that happen. | |
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I understand Diana Ross, hell, he even appointed her guardian of his children, but the rest - it's just colleagues, they were not even his friends. | |
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They are not going to speak outBecause they were not his friend although he inspired ALL of them even Madonna. I am sure Madonna might have a couple of words if she was asked about it but Justin, Beyonce and Jay Z ......you can forget it (they care to much about their own reputation to be dragged down as a result of defending Michael). A reporter asked Beyonce back in 03 how she felt about the allegations against Michael and her stuck up ass said "no comment". (Really no comment? To an artist that you claim you are crazy about? Even Brittany Spears defended MJ when a reporter asked her about it. ) Those celebs care to much about their own reputation. I dont expect to much from them because they did not know Michael personally and was not his friend. They claim Michael was their biggest inspiration but dont want to speak out when it counts. They all have meant him so its not like they cant speak out on how kind he was to them or how he was as a person. We already know Justin is a punk ass bitch for the way he dogged Janet so he is not going to speak out for nobody.I dont really care about these celebrities because their not real fans and they werent real friends. They were just people Michael inspired. Now I do give Madonna some credit because she has defended Michael over the last decade even before he passed.I know some celebrities who have never meant Michael but oddly defend him and have defended him so whether your friends or not really doesnt have anything to do with publicly defending someoneSomebody like Diana Ross should be speaking out (a person Michael called a dear friend) and she shockingly hasnt been doing a good job of publicly defending him. | |
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Since Michael's death, Diana Ross rarely does any interviews. And the few that she has done, she made it perfectly clear with all journalists (including Oprah) that she will NOT discuss Michael at all. And we all know that a discussion about the friendship of Diana & Michael can damn nearly be made into a motion picture in itself.
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Why would any of those celebrities want to add fuel to a fire... that's not really growing at all.
None of the major tabloids in Britain are reporting on this majorly, other than little articles on like the 50th page. Not a front page story which is shocking, considering many celebrities in the UK have been accused of the same thing, (child molestation and rape) since Jimmy Savile was exposed as one of Britains biggest pedophiles. Plus any MJ story is usually big news, but the press isn't really talking about it at all here. | |
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SUNDAY, 19 MAY 2013The sworn testimony that will come back to haunt Wade Robson
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It's just BS tho, there's no victim in the world that would allow their sexual abuser to eat dinner with his children if he had actually gotten molested. Wade and his kids met and had dinner with MJ and his kids back in 08... When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace -Jimi Hendrix | |
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'Michael Jackson definitely abused Wade': Maid who claims she saw King of Pop shower with Wade Robson when he was EIGHT 'agrees to testify at new lawsuit'By MATT BLAKE and HELEN POW
Michael Jackson's former housekeeper has agreed to back in court a choreographer's claim that the pop superstar molested him in the shower when he was a boy, it has been claimed. Blanca Francia, 57, says she walked in on The King of Pop showering with Australian Wade Robson, then eight, and has at last summoned up the courage to describe what she saw to a judge. Robson, 30, claims he was abused by Jackson for seven years who told him he'd go to jail for the rest of his life if he told anyone about it. The choreographer approached Ms Francia to testify at his abuse civil lawsuit last week, according to reports, but only now has she agreed to do so, claiming Jackson also abused her son, Jason. She told the Daily Mirror: 'Michael Jackson abused Wade. My opinion has never wavered. We have been through a lot since then. 'They [Wade’s lawyers] would have to subpoena me to appear in the court case, but I would tell the same story. I will talk to them. I am still in shock that this has all happened.' Lawsuit: Wade Robson, pictured yesterday with his family, has launched a civil lawsuit against Jackson's estate claiming he was abused and staff from the pop singer's company should have protected him
It is understood two other members of Jackson's staff have also emerged from the woodwork with claims the 'Smooth Criminal' singer behaved inappropriately when child visitors came to the house. Personal maid Adrian McManus revealed staff talked openly about Jackson’s bedtime antics with children while former ranch manager Mark Quindoy alleged he kissed a boy during a car trip in the early 1990s. Robson's lawsuit is a change of tune for Robson who took to the stand as the first defense witness at a trial in 2005, where Jackson was accused of molesting 13-year-old cancer survivor Gavin Arvizo. It was the same court case where Francia spoke out about seeing a young Robson in the shower with the singer. 'I walked in and they were in the shower,' Ms Francia told the court, according to a report from the time. 'When I saw it I saw clothes on the floor by the shower...underwear,' she said, adding that she recognized Jackson's and Robson's underclothes. According to TMZ in the maid's full written testimony she said she couldn't see what was happening in the shower but could hear Jackson laughing. Ms Francia's own son spoke at the court case in which Jackson was cleared of all 14 counts. Robson is planning to argue that Michael Jackson's companies -- MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures -- had a duty to protect him. However, his claims have been ridiculed by those close to the now deceased pop star. Debbie Rowe, 54, the ex-wife and mother of two of Jackson's children, criticized Robson on Thursday.
Seven years of alleged abuse: Robson, pictured right with Jackson as a kid, said from the age of seven to around 14 Jackson 'performed sexual acts on me and forced me to perform sexual acts on him'
She called the choreographer 'opportunistic' and said he was seeking publicity. She told TMZ on Thursday: 'It will be quickly forgotten, and will do nothing, nothing to tarnish Michael's extraordinary legacy.' Jackson's estate has called the claims 'outrageous and pathetic' while Jermaine Jackson has said that Robson is 'full of s***'. But Robson has been making his case too. He appeared on the Today program this week for a lengthy interview on why he is coming forward now and to outline his claims. He says from the age of seven to around 14, Jackson 'performed sexual acts on me and forced me to perform sexual acts on him'. Robson told Today Jackson convinced him that 'both of us would go to jail for the rest of our lives' if he told anyone about what they had done together. During the Arvizo case he adamantly denied that he had ever been molested or inappropriately touched by the singer.
Robson, now a top music choreographer who has worked with Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake, said he hadn't yet come to terms with what had happened to him. 'I said what I understood and I said what I was able to say,' he explained. 'From seven years old, from day one of the abuse, Michael told me that we loved each other and this was love, this was an expression of our love. And then he would follow it up with 'but if you ever tell anyone what we are doing both of our lives and careers would be over'.' 'This is not a case of repressed memory. I have never forgotten one moment of what Michael did to me, but I was psychologically and emotionally completely unable and unwilling to understand that it was sexual abuse.' He said having his own child two years ago made him face up to the truth, as he said he couldn't help thinking about how he'd feel if a stranger molested his little boy. 'I'm a father and I became a father two and a half years ago to this beautiful baby boy and during the first 18 months of his life I collapsed into two nervous breakdowns, terrifying nervous breakdowns,' he said.
'At that point, I had no idea what was going on. And for the first time in my life, I began to realize that my completely numb and unexplored feelings about what Michael did to me might be a problem and maybe I need to speak to somebody about it.' He has asked a probate court to allow him to file a late creditor's claim against Jackson's estate, even though the deadline has passed for creditors to file such claims. The estate's lawyer, Howard Weitzman, has dismissed Robson's claims. In a statement Weitzman said: 'This is a young man who has testified at least twice under oath over the past 20 years and said in numerous interviews that Michael Jackson never did anything inappropriate to him or with him. 'Now, nearly four years after Michael has passed, this sad and less-than-credible claim has been made.'. Robson said the ordeal of launching such a public case was too great for it to be about money. 'The idea that I would make all of this up and put myself, my wife, my son, my entire family through this extremely stressful and painful experience all for money is incomprehensible,' he said. 'I've lived in silence and denial for 22 years and I can't spend another moment in that... I'm never going to go away with this for the sake of money. I'm never going to be silenced for money. That's not going to happen.' Robson's lawsuit comes as the high profile trial of Michael Jackson's tour promoter, AEG, continues. The trial is brought by the singer's mother and children who claim AEG shares blame in his death for neglecting to vet and supervise Jackson's doctor, Dr Conrad Murray.
[Edited 5/20/13 11:58am] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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True and I'm happy she didn't speak to Oprah about it. Hahaha they might make a movie about in the future, don't give Hollyweird ideas now... When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace -Jimi Hendrix | |
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So is AEG paying off these former maids to publicly defend Wade's accusations too? MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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Sooo the maid repressed the memories too?? She Don't Speak..But She Remembers | |
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The maids are the same people that testified against MJ in 2005, their testimoney was discredited, but what makes it worse Wade himself at the time dismissed the testimoney under oath.
What Wade needs to win this case is a couple of kids that have never spoken out before as well as a new set of witnesses altogether, not witnesses that have been discredited. Infact Wade new claims are probably based around the ex-employees words. [Edited 5/20/13 12:34pm] [Edited 5/20/13 12:36pm] | |
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Oh yes, you mean Blanca Francia, the former maid, who wrestled out a million dollar settlement out of Jackson, and had to admit to selling her stories to tabloids instead of going to thepolice and is looked at as being a fraud. Or Adrian Macmanus, who supposedly saw something happen, but instead of going to the police, also sold her stories to tabloid and is also looked at as a fraud?? Wade Robson making up his lies is vindication for them. Let alone another possibility to make quick buck.
Why is it so hard to believe that action A, sets action B and C in motion? Most likely the media did approach these people, after Robson made up his BS. | |
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Blanca Francia's testimony. | |
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That is because MJ is dead, they are not exactly going to see him behind bars in hand cuffs...again. Secondly, the accuser is a perjuror, if what he is saying is true, therefore there are credibility issues here. | |
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Not so long ago,wasn't Wade trying to get a job with the Cirque Michael Jackson Vegas show? They didn't hire him,he got pissed and that's why he came up with these new set of lies.His career is over,the money ran out,so that explains these new,bogus charges.
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I agree with you. I see lot of blaming the victim here, and a lot of denial and wishful thinking.
This is an interesting piece linked below. The reality is that sexual abuse is a very complicated issue, as anybody who has experienced it will know. I think of the Jerry Sandusky case at Penn State. Imagine being in the shoes of one of these kids, or one of the kids MJ abused. It's beyond daunting to think about.
http://shine.yahoo.com/au...00823.html
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Wade Robson is not a "victim".He's a lying,cowardly SCUMBAG who has absolutely no credibility.His "repressed memories" BS would almost be laughable,if it weren't so damn pathetic. | |
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If this fool truly was abused as he claims then he can go to jail for perjury, because he LIED on the stand back in 2005. That's a serious offense.
Though, this is just a ruse so his broke ass can get some money. He's full of shit and I hope he loses his lawsuit. | |
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He's now saying he wasn't old enough to realise that it was abuse. I find that equally incredible. If, as he claims, the abuse lasted from the age of 7 to 14 and he didn't realise what was going on he must be the dumbest MF on earth. | |
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The irony of these two statements is too much for me to handle.
Also, I just want to express how much this angers me. This asshole is making a mockery of REAL sexually abused victims. He is taking advantage of them and all the laws that have been put in place for them in order to further his own gains. To think, there are REAL victims out there who will never have their molesters punished and this asshole comes up there and spews out utter bullshit for the sole fact that he needs to line he empty pockets. This is fucking gross and sickening. He is also taking advantage of all the feelings of people out there including REAL victims!
I can't even with this lying sack of shit. [Edited 5/20/13 13:51pm] | |
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The short version of this is: midnightmover talks shit. | |
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I agree.Wade is making a mockery of the REAL victims who are sexually abused...sincere,innocent people who aren't seeking money and attention.Wade obviously heard about Katherine's $40 billion lawsuit against against AEG and thought "Damn,how can I get a piece of that money?!".We now know what his real motivations are. | |
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Suddenly the date of his breakdown was changed to 2012. | |
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Exactly. Their entire lives are usually wrecked. The trauma is so great that they lock it away in a dark corner of their mind, but of course it never goes away. Even when they do understand what's happened they are reluctant to talk because they fear they'll be seen as the villains rather than the victims. Imagine how much worse it must be if your abuser is the most popular entertainer in the world.
Just look at the hatred, spleen and vitriol being aimed at Wade on this thread alone. Magnify that about a million times and that's what all of MJ's victims have to deal with. But it never occurs to the MJ fans that they are supporting an evil-doer. Even when he pays hush-money. Even when the recipients of that hush-money (who have nothing more to gain) come back years later - as adults - to testify against him in court. Even when we find out he had special alarms fitted in the hall leading up to his bedroom (where he was alone with those young pretty-boys). Even when we find out that bedroom was loaded with porn and alcohol. Even when close friends of his like Arnold Klein come out and say that he was gay and had a boyfriend. Even when the boyfriend comes out a month later and confirms it.
They don't even seem to have noticed the clues which he laced throughout his work (have they ever actually listened to "In The Closet" for instance?). These wackos are deluded beyond all hope. Wade is gonna need every bit of strength he can muster. The jackals are after him. [Edited 5/21/13 4:15am] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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His "breakdown" occurs when he finds out how much money the MJ estate is now worth | |
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Yeah,he is so full of shit He must be INSANE if he expects people to believe his bogus story | |
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And let's just take a moment to realize how silly it sounds when someone says "Robson's telling the truth. Because abused victims could take decades to come forward." I mean seriously. Their claim here is 'Robson's being truthful' and their reasoning is 'because in general victims take long time to speak about it'. Do they realize their "reasoning" cannot support their claim because for it to make any sense the claim has to be true first, iow, it has to be proven Robson was truly abused before anything for their argument to be anywhere near logical? Too bad Sneddon retired but I absolutely agree with you, Robson can't have it both ways. He can't all of a sudden claim to be a "victim" and not face the consequences of the disgusting lies he told on the stand in 2005 as a twenty two year old adult, which according to his theory, caused a "criminal" walk free and other "victim" to fail to seek justice and be humiliated internationally. During the cross examination he specifically denied he was ever inappropriately touched, periodically kissed or on his lips. But now he said himself he never forgot for one moment what Michael Jackson did to him, so that sounds like he deliberately lied under oath. This lowlife belongs behind bars. [Edited 5/20/13 15:59pm] | |
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that's the worst pedophile reason not to tell I've heard | |
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