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NoVideo said:

It's astonishing to me that people just refuse to acknowledge a simple truth because they just don't want to believe it.

The truth is that all off these so-called "victims" were shady as hell. No one ever presented a case that was credible and made sense and didn't fell apart when looking of what supposedly transpired. The truth is, all of them had one thing in common, they all were after money.

NoVideo said:

SoulAlive said:

NoVideo said:

It's astonishing to me that people just refuse to acknowledge a simple truth because they just don't want to believe it.

It's hard to believe people when they have no credibility.It's hard to believe someone when they contradict themselves,change their story,and tell lies.

THIS x 100!

Graycap23 said:

Celebs

Wade Robson: 'Pedophile' Michael Jackson abused me for 7 years

Randee Dawn TODAY contributor

In 2005, Wade Robson was the first defense witness at Michael Jackson's trial, where the singer was accused of molesting a 13-year-old cancer survivor. At the time, Robson was unequivocal: He was not sexually abused by the man known as the King of Pop. But eight years later, he has changed his tune.

Exclusively on TODAY Thursday, the 30-year-old choreographer told Matt Lauer that Jackson, who died in 2009, was "a pedophile and a child sexual abuser."

Robson said Jackson abused him from ages 7 to 14: Jackson "performed sexual acts on me and forced me to perform sexual acts on him."

Robson is currently asking a probate court to allow him to file a late creditor's claim against the Jackson estate, now that the deadline has passed for creditors to file such claims. His claim comes as a case brought by Jackson's family against AEG Live, promoters of his final concert tour, has begun in civil court.

http://www.today.com/entertainment/wade-robson-pedophile-michael-jackson-abused-me-7-years-1C9948163

[Edited 5/16/13 11:41am]

Allow me to say the following in Princely way:

smell bullshit!

Tokyo89 said:

Wade can GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE with that BULLSHIT!!!

Damn right!

BlaqueKnight said:

The phychological science of molesters is pretty defined these days. A molester molests as many as they have access to.

If MJ were a molester, there wouldn't be two victims, there would be 200.

Instead we have two liars that have recanted their stories from the past and exposed themselves.

Now this fool is trying to get a payday out of his association.

If Mayte believes this idiot, she's as big a fool as he is.

Exactly! And yet, there are some Michael-haters that are quick enough to drink the Nancy (Dis)grace and/or Oprah Twoface flavored Kool-Aid in believing that Michael is guilty until proven innocent.

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But in fairness to Mayte, she isn't the only celebrity thinking Michael is guilty for something. Gene Simmons, Nikki Sixx, and Jewell have mention their negative views about Michael as well.

Graycap23 said:

mjscarousal said:

Why would you post this mess here when there is already a topic about it in the MJ sticky?

Also,

if you have certain feelings about the claim I would advise you to research before making assumptions and judgements..... dont be one of the ignorant and naive people that are easily manipulated and influenced by everything they hear.

I don't believe 4 a minute that Mj would do something like this.

At the same time, why would Wade do this? Money? I don't think so.

Because THEY may have gotten to Wade and now are using him as a pawn to kill the legecy of Michael Jackson.

mjscarousal said:

For all the people who are to lazy to research the facts:

Wade has testified under oath in Michaels defense TWICE

For over the last 20 years Wade and his family have also defended Michael in interviews and public statements.

Wade helped Jermaine write his book 3 years ago

Wade was at Michaels memorial

Wade has public spoken highly about Michael and in his defense SINCE MJS PASSING and as recent AS LAST YEAR!!!!

Wade has been having money problems for over the last couple of years now and he is not a in demand choregrapher like he was during the early 00s

So before you people start assuming shit simply because someone makes a claim, why not research and look at the evidence instead of believing everything you fuckin hear. Dumbasses

When Wade filed the creditor claim he asked for MONEY not JUSTICE. His motives are perfectly clear. And then on the todays show he retracted his statements once he realized that his dumbass has made past public statements in Michaels defense and then wanted to blame the shit on "emotions getting in the way"

Bullshit

Even if it did happen.....what was stopping him from coming forward back in 2005 during the trial? Wade was not getting paid to defend Michael and he had nothing to loose if he honestly felt that Michael molested him.

Its all ABOUT MONEY and I feel sorry for Michael because he truly had no friends or people that sincerely cared about him.

The only reason why Wade is coming out with this shit now is because Michael is deceased and is not here to defend himself.

I knew I could count on you on the stats, Carousal.

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

I don't believe 4 a minute that Mj would do something like this.

At the same time, why would Wade do this? Money? I don't think so.

Because THEY may have gotten to Wade and now are using him as a pawn to kill the legecy of Michael Jackson.

Sounds about right.

It is shameful and pathetic for Wade to make these accusations NOW,when Michael is dead and is not here to defend himself There oughta be a law against doing something like this

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

I don't believe 4 a minute that Mj would do something like this.

At the same time, why would Wade do this? Money? I don't think so.

Because THEY may have gotten to Wade and now are using him as a pawn to kill the legecy of Michael Jackson.

I bet that they are secretly paying Wade to make these charges now.

SoulAlive said:

TonyVanDam said:

Because THEY may have gotten to Wade and now are using him as a pawn to kill the legecy of Michael Jackson.

I bet that they are secretly paying Wade to make these charges now.

That would probably be a sure bet.

I believe him. If I were molested by someone rich, I would want some money too! Who wouldn't? Lots of victims of molestation lie about it for years and only come clean years after the fact. It's extremely common, especially among same-sex molestations.

Only by reading nick-names of those who write posts in this thread, you can guess their content.
those who love/like MJ, write that it is not true and they don`t believe ...... those who dislike/hate MJ, believe that he's a monster and hurt the poor guy (who, by the way, wanted to participate in the tribute project, Cirque du Soleil: Michael Jackson ONE only a few months ago, but was rejected)

people's attitude to this situation depends entirely on the attitude towards MJ overall. it is a determining factor, because it is a matter of faith ....

in fact the truth will always be known only to a handful of people.
terrible situation in any case

[Edited 5/17/13 14:48pm]

MidniteMagnet said:

I believe him. If I were molested by someone rich, I would want some money too! Who wouldn't? Lots of victims of molestation lie about it for years and only come clean years after the fact. It's extremely common, especially among same-sex molestations.

Whether or not Wade's claims are true, we will never know but if he wanted money he could have gone after MJ a long time ago.

He praised and support MJ for the longest time. I bet he made alot money base on his association with MJ.

TonyVanDam said:

SoulAlive said:

It is shameful and pathetic for Wade to make these accusations NOW,when Michael is dead and is not here to defend himself There oughta be a law against doing something like this

Good thing is though, if the creditor's claim isn't already obvious enough (really, no real victim files a CREDITOR'S CLAIM against their dead molester) it seems any educated person at least considers how he's only coming forward when it's impossible to bring in any forensic evidence suspicious and questionable.

I watched the interview again with a friend of mine at work and he enlightened me with some good points. Robson totally contradicted himself in the interview. When Matt Lauer asks him why he lied under oath he says because that's what he understood at the time, meaning he didn't consider it abuse. But he also said "Michael also told me if the world found out what we were doing we would lose our career and we would go to jail." Yeah, a pedophile tries real hard to manipulate the victim by repeatedly underlining it is only a loving gesture, but at the same time warns his victim what they are doing is illegal. Ok, so he at least should've KNOWN it was an abuse, something not normal, something not legal, as a teenager and as an adult. And that's why his claim "Michael brainwashed me and trained me" does not work at all. The only possible explanation to him lying under oath would be if he was threatened to lie, but he never expressed he was even afraid of Michael Jackson (which is one of the common reasons why most real victims stay in denial) and he denied MJ's camp forced or enticed him to lie.

It's also no where near understandable to go through 10 years of adulthood paying tributes and willingly defending the man you consider a monster and a pedophile.

Someone mentioned calling this guy a "victim" is a mockery of real child sex abuse victims and I absolutely agree. Again even if we were to give any credit to his story and consider Michael a criminal, then Robson is only a man who helped discredit other victim's claims for more than 2 decades. This is the man who as an adult voluntarily prevented other victims from seeking justice.

I actually want him to do more interviews so he shows more flaws in his made-up stories.

[Edited 5/17/13 14:53pm]

mynameisnotsusan said:
If this is true this will be his undoing. Wade has said that money won't silence him so I hope he continues to speak out AS ALL ABUSE VICTIMS SHOULD.

Celebrities and the media defending Michael Jackson

Whoopi Goldberg and Barbra Walters didn't buy Wade's account.

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TMZ's Harvey Levin: "This is about money. That's the only reason you file a creditors claim. It's all about money."
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Nicole Richie's mother:

Brenda Harvey Richie ‏@BrendaRichie 9m
I just watched the Today Show! What a crock of BS fr Wade! Speaking as a Professional in Social Work, that interview was totally rehearsed

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Debbie called into TMZ

Debbie Rowe doesn't believe for one minute that her ex-husband, Michael Jackson, molested Wade Robson, telling TMZ the latest accuser will not blemish the memory of MJ.

Rowe -- reacting to Robson's appearance on "Today" and the 2 legal claims he's filed in court, tells TMZ:

"I was angered that Wade Robson reversed his sworn testimony from court in 2005, and now claims to be a victim of sexual abuse."

Rowe goes on ... "His publicity-seeking attempt is opportunistic and just oozes falseness."

Robson claims Jackson molested him for 7 years -- between the ages of 7 and 14, although he squarely denied it when he took the stand as Jackson's star witness in the 2005 molestation trial.

Rowe tells us, "It will be quickly forgotten, and will do nothing, nothing to tarnish Michael's extraordinary legacy."

mynameisnotsusan said:

TonyVanDam said:

mjscarousal said:

For all the people who are to lazy to research the facts:

Wade has testified under oath in Michaels defense TWICE

He said Michael groomed him. That's not impossible to believe.

This doesnt make sense.

Are you aware of the age Wade was when he testified on Michaels behalf?

Wade was 23 years old.

He was a GROWN ASS MAN.

How could Michael possibly groom a 23 year old man?

That would mean he was 10 years old since he's been denying abuse - and this would be at the same time Michael was abusing him. That's a very young age to be covering for someone. He said "I've been living in silence and denial for 22 years."

I don't see how these disproves what he's saying now.

Well he said to Matt Lauer, Michael was an incredibly talented artist with an incredible gift. You can keep saying those things and they remain true except this time he added that he was a pedophile and a child sexual abuser.

You have to be younger than 12 with this bullshit

WADE FILED A CREDITORS CLAIM ASKING FOR MONEY AGAINST THE MJ ESTATE. SO YOU CAN STOP ARGUING THAT HE DOES NOT WANT MONEY (If your going to assume Wade is telling the truth then you should at least take the time to research the facts instead of believing what you want). FUCK WHAT HE SAID OUT HIS MOUTH. HE FILED A CREDITORS CLAIM WHICH SHOWS HIS TRUE MOTIVES BEHIND THIS BULLSHIT PERIOD.

Wade answered this himself. "It was complete manipulation and brainwashing. It wasn't any sense of the truth. On the phone he would role play and train me for these scenarios."

Wade was a GROWN ASS MAN when he testfied back in 2005 so why are you painting him to be a minor? He was NOT a minor. Oh goodness you need to research the facts before you go labeling what is fact and what is not.

He knows what he was and is doing. He is not a child. Whether AEG put him up to doing this or not, He was never a real friend to Michael and is clearly after publicity and money.

This is probably true, it would definitely be easier to go aft

Then why did you give all these elementary responses for why you feel Wade is telling the truth? If you understand that its easy to accuse someone of something when they are deceased and can no longer defend themselves why are treating Wade like he is the gospel?

As soon as I heard the terms "repressed memory" and "nervouse breakdown" i knew he was full of it. Neither condition exists in science.

Amazing how folks keep coming of with this shit almost four years after death Wade is a lying piece of crap

A coupe of other points:

THe original accuser also claimed to have repressed memories. In that case, the father, a dentist who was pissed that MJ wouldn't finance his screenplay and had a closer relationship to his ex-wife and son than he did, drugged his kid during a weekend visit to supposedly bring out the memories. However the drug was known for actually implanting false memories in people, so had that case gone to trial, MJ would have most likely been vindicated. Johnny Cochran was MJ's lawyer and he advised against settlement, but SonyMusic wanted to protect their investment in MJ and insisted the issue be put to rest immediately.

There was a rumor back in the day that Wade Robson was sexing Mayte behind Prince's back when they were married. Prince split with Mayte almost immediately after those stories came out. I always wondered if Wade Robson was the reason.

Joe Vogel on the allegations :

http://www.joevogel.net/m...itch-hunts

so,how much money is this weasel suing for? Has anyone seen the actual lawsuit?

I like to think I'm a reasonable person who wouldn't like my appreciation for someones music effect my judgement on any criminal behaviour they but until some people who don't need money make an accusation I don't believe it.

The first case just seemed like straight up bullshit. The family involved in the second seemed kinda shady so I was somewhat torn. I suppose a smart pedophile would target with a bad parental situation for a number of reasons and there is hardly ever any evidence in molestation but like I say, everyone who has made these accusations has been in a bad situation financially.

GoldDolphin said:

Joe Vogel on the allegations :

http://www.joevogel.net/m...itch-hunts

THAT^ is an excellent essay Joe Vogel wrote. Thanks for staring the info GD.

Emancipation89 said:

mynameisnotsusan said:

Emancipation89 said:

Then how come he filed a creditor's claim LONG BEFORE he chose to speak out?

He filed May 1. That's only 3 weeks ago.

He filed a creditor's claim asking for financial compensation before he spoke out. 3 weeks is long enough but you really don't get the point do you? He's saying money won't silence him but he only said that AFTER Michael's estate made it clear they're not going to compensate him.