I agree.
I am just going to say this and then leave Janet alone I do love Janet (the artist) but I lost alot of respect towards her after her brother passed. It just kills me her fans make her out to be so "perfect" like she has not done any wrong or has not hurt anybody. Janet was NEVER as big as MJ NEVER at any point in her career. Even in the US she was never bigger than MJ during the 90s. Maybe she could have arguably been a bigger charter on the music charts but as far as fame and global notoriety.... no and not even close.
Her fans also have amnesia because Janet was a MEDIA DARLING before 2004 UNLIKE MJ who was NEVER a media darling. Janet was critically acclaimed and was always depicted as the "normal jackson" She also did not receive the same scurnity as MJ for his personal life as well as music set backs. MJ went through 2 criminal accussations against him and still was able to sell out 50 arena shows at the age of 50. Janet on the other hand has not been the same since her SB incident and can barely sell out a theatre. ( I am not trying to bash her but I am just baffled when people try to put her and MJ on the same level) They have NEVER been on the same level.
I do think currently Janet is very underrated.
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The reason why Janet fans feel Janet is a better dancer is because Janet had choreography for all her songs and all her songs for the majority have dance steps to them when performed in concert unlike MJ. That is true.
However, that doesnt necessarily reflect dancing skill or ability because alot of factors need to be taken into consideration. For one thing, MJ sung more live than Janet, so naturally all his songs is not going to have complicated dancing movements when he is not JUST dancing on stage like Janet. (To be fair, he did sing while dancing to the songs that did have choreography)
'They both are talented dancers but MJ is superior to Janet because MJ did more complicated footwork that I know damn well Janet can not do.
He free styled more and showed his ability to come up with dance steps on his own and he corporated alot of different styles. Janet is excellent as well but she for most part did straight choregraphy and never deviated from that. She has never free styled or showed individual talent besides what her choregraphers gave her. Michael on the other hand has... Michael does not need backup dancers. He could dance on stage and still be entertaining.... this is in regards (to strictly dancing)
I dont like to compare them either but its annoying when people do.
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Because she is so underrated and shitted on it's bizarre when you see her fans being so overly obnoxious towards MJ. You think they would be humbled and chilled.
Instead you come across them talking shit as if Janet is at the moment breaking all these touring records, releasing #1's left and right, etc.
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Yeah I agree with a lot of those factors as well | |
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[Edited 2/20/13 17:05pm] will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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Tina loving Janet like that??? That's news to me KCOOLMUZIQ said:
On second thought. I'm not going anywhere.Have u lost your mind? Janet is the one that put Tina on. No one knew who she was before Janet gave her the opportunity to be her main choreographer. Its not Janet's fault that Tina developed a crush on her & wrote a bunch of love songs about her love for Janet. Although I admit Janet's choreography suffered when Tina left.
U also need to give that lame argument a rest about Janet admitting Mj had a drug problem on Oprah. Its getting old & tired. U need to put that to rest boo boo.
Also U dead wrong about Janet not helping with the bills. Did U forget that Janet paid the whole staff at Neverland when MJ was going through his last public child molestation trial? Don't U dare try to throw Janet under the bus & make up lies about her. I will drag U all through this thread.... [Edited 2/20/13 13:43pm] | |
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hahahaha I LOVE IT! DIS GON BE GOOD! KCOOL I LOVE THIS SIDE OF YOU!!! | |
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Janet and Tina sitting in a treeee | |
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No but obviously you have lost yours.... because you feel you can come up in here talking shit about MJ and not get called on it. Im tired of your elementary games and foolishness among OTHER things.
NEWS FLASH: You can not come into this MJ sticky talking shit about MJ and think you can get away with it..
First off, the fact that Janet hired Tina has nothing to do with their falling out nor does it justify Janets behavior in why they had the falling out. Also, that bullshit about Tina having a crush on Janet is a FAIL... If you want to have a serious discussion talk like an adult and not a toddler.
Tina and Janet developed a good frienship and eventually became best friends. The reason why Tina left Janet is because Janet knew that Tina's fiance (at the time) was cheating on Tina and Janet did not tell Tina. When Tina found out that her man was cheating and that Janet knew all along she was hurt and stopped dealing with Janet. Janet eventually revealed this HERSELF in a Oprah interview back in (2004) but did not mention Tina's name. Tina later confirmed that she was the friend Janet was referring to in the interview.
Now I am not trying to bash Janet but thats f**** up you dont do that to a friend, let alone a bestfriend. Its perfectly understandable why Tina did not want to deal with her especially when their relationship was more than just business. They were best friends. AND If your going to sit here and make an excuse for that then you need mental help because if Tina had did the same thing to Janet, Janet would not have liked that either. She would have expected her best friend to tell her what she knew in regards to her man cheating.... NOT pretend IN HER face that her man is faithful.
If I knew my best friend's man was cheating and IVE SEEN IT FOR MYSELF then I would tell my BEST friend... Thats not even something you think about... thats just something you JUST do if its someone you care about.
Secondly, its not a lame arguement to bring up Janet throwing her brother under the bus when you are suggesting that Janet does not have an evil bone in her body which implies she is perfect when thats bullshit. Thats the ONLY reason why I brought it up. And it needs to be said because it was messed up what she did. You dont go on national television making a bunch of misleading statements about your brother when he is no longer here to defend himself. NO I did not like how she implied MJ passed away from prescription medication WHEN IT WAS BECAUSE OF PROPOFOL which is not a prescription medication. NO I did not like how she spoke on his behalf about things she did not have a clue about. NO I did not like how she implied her brother was a drug addict when there is no evidence that suggests he was still taking prescription medication up until his death. NO I did not like how she did not mention that he had insomnia issues and that was the reason why he wanted to use Propofol not because he was a addict. The autospy showed that PROPOFOL is why he passed and there was no prescription medication in his system. SO YES, I do think it was f*** up how she minimized Murray's role. Janet knows damn well everything said on MJ is twisted and turned and she opened her mouth and said a bunch of misleading comments on purpose because MJ was not here to defend himself.
@ Janet paying for MJ..... You must have comprehension problems because in that paragraph I was not referring to Janet paying for Michael. I said Janet NEVER paid for Katherine, Joe, Jermaines kids baby mamas, Randy, grandkids college education ETC like Michael did. NO Janet is not obligated to pay for her siblings but DAMN Michael pretty much provided everything for Katherine, to her home, giving her money, making sure she had money to travel, Janet hardly did anything (and if she, she damn sure would ask for a reimbursement) because she relied on Mj doing everything.
In saying all of that is not throwing her under bus and these are NOT LIES because JANET revealed why Tina and her had a falling out and she did all those misleading interviews on MJ.... its just keeping it real. And even in alot of those court documentations it has MJ paying for everything for the family which he was doing for years. I love Janet, I'm not going to lie. Ive lost alot of respect towards her but I am a fan of (the artist).
HOWEVER,
I am not going to sit up here and act like she is The Virgin Mary when she isnt.
Janet doesnt have an evil bone in her body.... funniest thing Ive heard all day
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I will never understand it myself.
You would think they would have more empathy since Janet is now experiencing a spec of what MJ experienced.
The things they say on her message boards about her family .... are appalling
They call MJ everything but a child of God on Janet Xone. They call his children out their name and call Paris a b**** mind you these are GROWN ASS PEOPLE saying all of this.
They also think its the "All 4 u era"
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Oh that's right. I totally forgot about Decade. | |
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I really miss the All For You era, it was a really fun spring and summer to be a Janet fan, but I was disappointed the era was cut short cause it still had potential. | |
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"aLL 4 u" is my favorite dance track by Janet. It has so much energy. It oozes her charisma...Virgin didn't release enough singles from it. But she also had the hit "Doesn't Matter" on there from her third number #1 movie blockbuster Nutty Professor.... [Edited 2/20/13 16:54pm] will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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I love all for you, but I don't think it's one of her best dance tracks though still nice and melodic, I think I love it more for how carefree life was that time and how good things were for janet at that point in her career in retrospect. My favourite dance singles from that era were probably the doesn't really matter jonathan peters remix and the someone to call my lover dance mixes as well as trust a try
best dance songs came from janet jackson to janet. for me and then of course with songs like free xone, all nite don't stop, rock with u, 2nite, make me and so forth. [Edited 2/20/13 16:31pm] | |
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That was Janet last real blockbuster album....
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I believe she could have easily scored 1 or 2 more top 5 singles if not number ones off it had the era been continued into 2002, but newer artists were getting more attention and the 90's successes were being pushed aside. Do you know why? | |
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Sadly Janet's age started catching up with her...Older artist we're starting to be pushed aside by then for less talented chicks like Destiny's Child,,,,,,,,,,, will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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this is the exact same thing that happened to established owners during the late 80s, but the transition accelerated by the end of the 90s..... | |
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They were talented and the album sales only had a 1 million difference at most.
I was annoyed with ashanti, ja rule and hip hop though some was still okay and was gravitatig towards rock and going back to older music again.
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90's was my last favorite period for good muziq...After that it just went down hill.... will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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That's exciting news for Prince Michael (I can never just call him Prince lol). Yes this job was practically handed to the young boy but a 16 year old, still in school, willing to work for his money and not afraid to jump into a field he's not familiar with to learn new things? Good for him. At his age he should be exploring as much as he can and shouldn't worry too much about trying different things or making mistakes. He has plenty of time to decide ultimately what he wants to do for his career. Imo, Entertainment Tonight(different from "E!") is slightly above TMZ or Insider. I can't say I'm very familiar with the show but I think their long time co-host Mary Hart who was replaced recently, had a soft spot for Michael and often spoke favorably of him since the 80's. The thing I liked about ET is that it's a pretty interview-oriented show rather than a narrative-oriented setting, where some gossipers just talk to each other, draw their own conclusions and make fun of celebs throughout the entire show...But then again ET did interview people like Diane Diamond and some other crackheads hmm In any case even if Prince Michael wants to be a serious journalist later this is only opening more doors for him. That guy who used to run British tabloid publication is now on CNN lol And I don't think I necessarily care that much about these kids either but it does make me smile when I see them doing well. Not just because their father was one of my favorite artists but I genuinely want them to be happy, I feel for them for losing their one and only parent at such young age, having been thrown in fron of cameras all of a sudden to do interviews, and for growing up in the public eye...It just can't always be about "what Michael would've wanted for them". Just want them to be strong and happy.
Cool!! [Edited 2/21/13 2:16am] | |
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I love Prince, but he isnt flawless. Prince is a great popular music artist, but in terms of greats as far as music goes, he would never rival a genre breaking, composer, arranger, pianist like Mozart or Beethoven... But fair enough in the realm of popular music, Prince and Michael Jackson are among the greats and I love them both. But remember, Michael Jackson made people faint in his presence and I only mentioned that, because it's good to be critical to things because they are not fucking Gods.
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As far as a female dancers go in popular music/entertainment of the last 30 years or so, Janet is def up there with other great dancers but as far as being compared with MJ, it just isn't fair. Michael was one of the best dancers of the past 50 years and I'm not saying this as a fan, but rather his influence on dancing over the last 40 years is greater than any other modern artist today. He popularized many dance styles over the decades and while he didn't invent them, he put his own twists on all of his dances. His dances are still being an influence to millions of dancers around the world, many dancers often cite Michael as an influence to start dancing. He was friends with many great dance legends and many of those same people who influenced him, were in awe of his dancing skills. So those Janet fans that feel that she is a better dancer than Michael, simply don't know the legacy that MJ left behind.
I always like to give the example of how MJ outshined those young dancers at the rehersals of This is it, as proof as why he was a master of dancing. You could tell MJ wasnt in best health but he still danced with grace and perfection... When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace -Jimi Hendrix | |
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That is your opinion! I feel Prince is in the same company as Mozart. Also some artist have been known to hire & place fans to do certain things as faint & scream at their shows for special effect. Like one other popular female singer/actress that has been known to charge a fortune to see her that shall remain nameless..... will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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Oh Shut the Fuck up.... you have warned out your welcome.
LEAVE.
All your doing now is trolling.
If Prince was Mozart he would have people fainting and bawling at the sight of him but he does not. | |
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AMADEUS AMADEUS! | |
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Exactly it's my opinion, just like you have yours. I know everything Prince does is a masterpiece according to you and you are right to have that opinion !
But if you want to go into a discussion as to why Mozart is more closely related to MJ than Prince, I shall give you some points. Firstly Mozart was a prodigy child that traveled all around Europe with his sister and family to perform and entertain crowds (just like Joe Jackson did with Michael Jackson and his siblings, MJ started to perform at age 5 with his brothers). He later on tried to be an independant artist and it worked for some years but he was very eccentric and enjoyed things that most people at the time didn't understand and later had alcohol problems (does it ring a bell about MJ?). He also tried to get his fathers love and appreciation during his life (who valued his son mostly based on his work, rather than on the personlity). . People knew he was talented and tried to disminish his talents in his later years, but he was always trying to convey a message with his music, just like MJ - Mozarts music became much darker and intriguing (cinematic is a way to put it) in his later years. They both died young and without money (MJs money were frozen) .They loved to entertain people and they are both known for their childlike qualities. I am in no way comparing MJ to the input Mozart did to music history, because Mozart changed music (composition, notation, instrumentally, time, scales, variation that few artists in popular music have done)
MJ hired people to faint? Really now? lol When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace -Jimi Hendrix | |
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Randy J. T wrote about the hiring, but I actually know people who fainted at his shows.
And MJ is Mozart reincarnate, so let's end this mmmmkay? | |
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Michael Jackson's Son Becomes Celebrity Journalist, Discovers Meaning of 'Irony'
Prince Michael becomes 'Entertainment Tonight' reporter
"Hiding, getting away. You can't go that way because they're over there, we won't, let's go this way and pretend we're going that way and we'll go that way. Someone should say HOLD ON, STOP. This person deserves their privacy. You are not allowed to go there. I mean I go around the world dealing with, running, and hiding, you can't…I can't take a walk in the park. I can't go to the store. I can't. I have to hide in a room, you feel like you're in prison."
That harrowing, almost literary passage is Michael Jackson discussing the paparazzi with Barbara Walters in 1997, as transcribed by a fan site. And yet in the same interview, Jackson discussed selling pictures of his first son to the National Enquirer and other tabloids when his eldest child, commonly known as Prince Michael Jackson, was born earlier that year. Plus, Entertainment Tonight, for all of its ridiculousness, isn't exactly the Enquirer. All of which is to say it's ironic but not entirely shocking that the young Jackson is now an ET correspondent.
Sure, as with Luke Russert's ascension to NBC News correspondent when he was only 22, high-profile parentage is obvously the deciding factor here. But Tim Russert's Sunday morning perch on NBC's Meet the Press meant he could expect other poltical journalists to kiss his ring; he wasn't, we assume, ordinarily stalked by them. The late King of Pop was a very different case.
According to ET, Pince Michael interviewed someone for the first time in his life when he interviewed actors James Franco and Zach Braff, along with director Sam Raimi, about their upcoming Wizard of Oz prequel, Oz the Great and Powerful. The subject is especially appropriate (?!) because his father played the Scarecrow in 1978's The Wiz: The Super Soul Musical Wonderful Wizard of Oz. When told by ET's terrifyingly cheerful Brooke Anderson he seems older than 16, Prince Michael reportedly replied: "That's what most of my people say. That was all thanks to my dad. He raised me right."
More than 30 years after Thriller, and in the wake of last year's bizarre Jackson family feud, it's impossible not to root for Prince Michael. As much as anyone, he deserves a chance to grow into a successful adult, and he presumably has the financial resources to catch him if he falls. Still, we wouldn't have expected him to become a celebrity journalist. It's the type of quirky move that helped his father stay in the crosshairs of, well, celebrity journalists.
Pretty sure a caring adult might've advised Prince Michael to, like, start small and gain experience first, but then again being the child of Michael Jackson is so singular that it's really impossible for an outsider to judge. But can we still judge the adults, who evidently didn't tell Prince Michael that part of the appeal of watching him on ET is the peculiar irony of watching a "raised right" tabloid-target's kid going to work for a tabloid TV show. It could be worse; he could still go into music criticism.
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Randy Taraborelli wrote about one particular case, at the ceremony, in my opinion, a Grammy in 1985 .. | |
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