I can't imagine who else could have done invincible though, it's mj's. Maybe a few singles at most could have suited other artists too, but not as a whole album | |
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but that’s 4 vs 1.
For me: best song ------------------------------- he could stop right here
Overall - weak for MJ, decent for someone else | |
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Unbreakable A Place With No Name (from the snippet we have of this, this sounds beautiful) Butterflies Heaven Can Wait Shout You Rock My World Another Day Whatever Happens The Lost Children Slave To the Rhythm Heartbreaker Speechless I Have This Dream (Michael was working HARD on this track and desperatley wanted this released)
thats how i would have tracked invincible, there are a bunch of invincible outtakes though, so until we have all of those i cant really say what the "perfect" tracklist in my opinion would have been.
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Yea I think its fair because you made a bold statement suggesting that all his solo Motown albums when he was young was weaker than Invincible and I disagree with that.
Once again, we are not talking about all of MJ's albums, we are just solely talking about Invincible. I would even argue on Invincible MJ did not do that much songwriting as he did on previous albums so I think comparing it to his solo motown albums is fair. Regardless, we are comparing the quality of the songs and not whether or not MJ was involved with the production. It still does not change the fact he has alot of classics from those Motown albums compared to Invincible because their stronger.
If you prefer Invincible so be it. Im not bashing Invincible (I think its underrated and I love it to) I just think those Motown albums combined are better than Invincible though. | |
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Incentives? If a person goes to an artist's concert it means just that, they spent their time & money to be there. I'm not trying to offend you but at this point I'm not even sure if you understand what the word "popular" even means...
Whether album was released before the movie or not (by three days...seriously.) if he hadn't decided to collaborate with Tim Burton there wouldn't have been an album named Batman by P, let's make that clear. And are you saying the success of the movie didn't have any impact on the album sales at all?
You don't say!? How are you going to claim Prince was more successful on the charts just because he has more #1 albums than Michael then? Shouldn't you be saying Prince just happens to have more #1 albums because he happens to have released more albums?
Also if you are seriously thinking of adding all the countries the albums went #1 in, how about adding things like, I don't know....how long the albums were number 1 in each country for example? In fact I think you should do that for all the albums that made in top 10! And don't for get to do the same for singles! lol [Edited 2/17/13 21:17pm] | |
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I really tried to keep it to a professional/respectful level but it appears you chose sarcasm and rudeness. that's fine. Thank you for your input. | |
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I'm sorry if my comments hurt your feelings but I don't think your blog post or all the "research" you did, or little things you threw in here and there was all that professional or respectful. Clearly from the beginning of your article you showed your frustration towards "Jacko Fanatics". Also just want to be clear that I actually meant what I said in the last paragraph, I really wanted you to do more research. I don't agree with a lot of things you said but more than that it really confuses me what the purpose of your "research" was, and why you didn't put more effort to find further information, etc. | |
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lol no feelings hurt here bud. It's simply that when you try to keep it respectful to others you expect it back from them is all. If you read what I wrote I had said that it was a work in progress and that posting to this thread was to get more ideas to add. when you brought up some of your ideas like concert attendance I felt that they were unmeasurable due to cost of tickets, incentives, etc. you chose to get hung up with the incentives part but ignored ticket cost. Cost was my major issue because I would have to do an in depth study on ticket sales to use the attendance as a tool. For instance, Prince's concert that took place at MSG in 2010 in to 2011 as part of his Welcome 2 tour was $25 a ticket. That's very cheap. casual or even non fans would buy a ticket for kicks at that price. That surely would have to be weighed differently against an MJ tour, that for example, sold out for an average of 250 per ticket. Do you see how this becomes a rather unmeasurable mess when crossing over attendance with ticket prices? Like I said to a previous poster, Weeks on the charts both albums and singles will be added and how many countries they were number 1 in will be added. If you dont think its fair you are more than welcome to write your own blog/article. Lastly I'm not going to keep going over the fact that those albums are studio albums. You got hung up once again with one thing out of many things which was that batman was released 3 days before. while the other 2 albums were released over a month before. But fortunately, none of that matters because soundtracks are not released even 1 hour before a movie comes out, they are always released after. so I don't see your 3 day comment to be relevant. Also as I have said numerous times before they are all listed as Studio albums that served for the movie not the other way around (you can look this up). Whether the movie gave the album more success or not is irrelevant. Did MJ not use promotional tools that gave his albums more success? Moonwalkers wasn't a promotional movie? Should I make a note of it when I list BAD as a #1 album? Should I make note of the thriller music video for the album Thriller? I find it funny that you want me too talk about the movies aiding the success of Prince's albums when in fact, MJ did so many more promotional videos, commercials etc in his career to aid in the success in all his albums. Anyways as I have said If you feel it is important to list all of the things I find to be either unmeasurable or irrelevent, the great thing about the internet is you can write about what you want. I'd also be interested to read it when you're done and I mean that sincerely. have a great night. | |
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When I said concert prices I wasn't even talking about his W2A tours. How about simply comparing the ticket prices and attendance and the size of the stadiums, how many different places they performed before 2009? (And btw if I remember correctly '21 nights in LA' had options of $25 tickets, not 2010 W2A shows.) I'm not saying it's not fair, I'm simply saying you don't understand what Popular means because when it comes to these two artists, unless you're in complete denial of reality it really is measurable. But if you want to focus on charts that's fine too. And please re-read what I said. When did I ever say you should acknowledge the fact that Batman movie helped the sales for the album in your article? I've mentioned this only because you constantly claimed that these albums were Studio albums that served for the movies which is a very confusing statement to me. Again it was Tim Burton who approached Prince not the other way around. The movie Batman was it's own project, not a movie made to promote Prince's album. All these Prince's and MJ's music videos and yes, even Moonwalker was PART OF the albums' project. It's because you seemed as if you were genuinely interested in finding out who was more successful on the charts I bothered to have been giving my feedback. But at this point it's clear you you are rather upset about what I pointed out in your post which is lack of research and focus than anything. But hey it was you who posted your article here wasn't it? Like I said I wanted you to do more research but if you don't want to that's totally fine with me. I don't think I'll ever spend time to read your blog posts again but it was a fun discussion. You too have a good night. [Edited 2/17/13 23:55pm] | |
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I remember after seeing his clothes & some belonggings in an exhibition, as I walked out 'One Day in Your Life' started playing... Michael & me love those lovey dovey ballads. Why oh why didn't he ever perform it in later years? It was a big hit, my mother had it on vinyl
His voice here, so great. One of my favourites.
I did this drawing of beloved Michael a couple of months ago. [Edited 2/18/13 4:11am] | |
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^ I love One Day In Your Life... such a touching song. I wish Michael performed some of his earlier solo material as well. Nice drawing by the way! | |
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Awesome drawing! Reminds me of his studio 54 days! Like he's going to come to life in that powder blue suit, and get groovy!
I love that One Day In Your Life performance. I don't understand why Entertainment Tonight was putting it down years ago and saying it wouldn't have worked for American Idol...where everyone scream-sings! You can clearly hear him being influenced by Karen Carpenter and Barbara Streisand here vocally. | |
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MJ's Facebook says currently says 'Climb on board and check back in 3 days for big news!', with a pretty random picture (not of MJ).
Anyone have any guesses as to what this is?? New album?? | |
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will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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This was a newborn on ET just yesterday | |
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Prince Michael Jackson Named 'Entertainment Tonight' CorrespondentThe 16-year-old son of the late pop singer makes his reporting debut on the syndicated show, first covering the junket for "Oz the Great and Powerful."ET
In a bit of unexpected TV staffing news, Entertainment Tonight announced Monday that it has made Prince Michael Jackson an on-air correspondent. Just 16 years old, the eldest child of the late pop star started his new life as a member of the Fourth Estate over the weekend at the Pasadena junket for Disney'sOz the Great and Powerful.
"I'm looking to become well-rounded as a producer, director, screenwriter and actor," Jackson tells ET's Brooke Anderson in the first footage from his gig, airing during Monday's program. Jackson's duties at the Oz junket included interviewing director Sam Raimi and actorsJames Franco and Zach Braff. He asked the trio for advice on how to get started in the entertainment business.
His status as a minor means that Jackson's appearances on ET will likely be few and far between, but the show's announcement promised his Oz reporting will be featured throughout the week.
Watch the video below: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/prince-michael-jackson-named-entertainment-422204
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Ahhh, Prince Michael! I don't know if his Dad would approve but I think he'd be proud. Prince Michael was complimented on his demeanor and he accredited it to his Dad and his very good up bringing. Good for him acknowledging his Dad as so few teens do these days. I thought he appeared very poised!
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Good for him. I'm just glad Prince Michael is part of something legit. It was depressing seeing him, Paris and Blanket being associated with the most random z-list ventures.
With this gig, he at least gets nice harmless exposure which can then lead to other respectable things for him. | |
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i'm sorry but i can't even look at that kid without wondering who the donor is. he doesn't look a thing like michael jackson. it's really distracting | |
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i don't know. i think it's depressing that he's working with people who took delight in taking down his father. i haven't seen et in years and years, but i wouldn't characterize it as 'respectable'. | |
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I don't know what to think of that Prince's new job. We don't have E, so I don't know how they work, but I can tell from the youtube clips, they were not good to MJ, but who has been? If his kids were about to avoid everyone who disrespected their dad, they might not be able to meet anyone. On the other hand I can understand that a person should have some dignity and not do certain things. Anyway, I guess I'll have to wait and see how it goes. I can imagine him being all serious with this so it might turn out actually well giving him credit he deserves. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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I agree with what you are saying, but I don't think the kids know how much MJ was bullied by the tabloids... Isnt this the same show that Diane Dimond was on (or whatever her name is lol) that was saying all those awful stuff about MJ? It seems he is pretty serious about it, so I hope that it will go well for him. I hope someone uploads it on youtube lol.... When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace -Jimi Hendrix | |
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He has Michael's mannerisms & hairstyle also very well spoken...That is really all he needs ...I don't understand what is going on with his sister Paris, who was growing into a very beautiful young women. Now she has adapted this Pat Benatar rocker look... I've always said the quiet one is the one that is going to be huge & that is "Blanket"... will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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Yeah, I also think he's got better things to do in life than to dig dirt on everyone on the internet. I think he will learn his lessons as he gets exposed to things and gets experience. I have already seen the short preview of it and I am starting to feel better about it. If he asks intelligent questions and handles it well (which I can imagine him to do), it will be good for him. I am rooting for him. I hope it does. I really like him a lot. As for Paris, let her be a teenager now. Actually I think she has learnt her lesson a bit. She's not as much on the internet anymore. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Diane diamond was on a show called Hard Copy which would air befor Entertainment Tonight in the 90s | |
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The reviews are good so far. Let's be optimistic. (Taken from KOP board)
How Michael Jackson's son landed an 'Entertainment Tonight' job [Edited 2/19/13 8:30am] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Yes I agree. I think that if anyone of those kids will be famous or has talent in music or dance it will be Blanket (he has rhythm and everyone keeps saying he's a good dancer), I think Prince Michael will be a great producer/director though, it seems he has the drive for it. When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace -Jimi Hendrix | |
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I'm sure he could dance, but it's not going to be anything special like his dad and just like any other kid messing around. Besides, why should they want to be like him when they could just be themselves? MJ was who he was and so are they
He seems to really be into his karate thing though, maybe he'll teach that in the future, or if he wants to incorporate it with acting, train actors in it that require it for their roles. | |
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Interesting. MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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Does Paris still want to be an actress? Or a poser punk child?
I honestly thought she was going to end up on the Disney channel like Selena Gomez or Hannah Montana, but I didn't want her to get it cause of her name either, and also feel a Jackson has to do something outside the box! And I don't mean that Z list movie with Larry King she was supposed to do.
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