not a "personal favorite" ...
we are about the impact on the next generation of artists.

I read the opinion that Confessions - most iconic RnB album of all time.
Songs In The Key Of Life, What's Going On, Off The Wall and Purple Rain were also icons, but did not have such an effect, as album by Usher (in opinion of this person) ... and since this is RnB and I'm not an expert in this style ...
I decided to ask you about that

LiLi1992 said:

not a "personal favorite" ...
we are about the impact on the next generation of artists.

I read the opinion that Confessions - most iconic RnB album of all time.
Songs In The Key Of Life, What's Going On, Off The Wall and Purple Rain were also icons, but did not have such an effect, as album by Usher (in opinion of this person) ... and since this is RnB and I'm not an expert in this style ...
I decided to ask you about that

WOW, thats some good b.s.

Are you honestly implying that Usher Confessions is more iconic than Whats Going on/Songs in the Key Of Life?

mjscarousal said:

LiLi1992 said:

not a "personal favorite" ...
we are about the impact on the next generation of artists.

I read the opinion that Confessions - most iconic RnB album of all time.
Songs In The Key Of Life, What's Going On, Off The Wall and Purple Rain were also icons, but did not have such an effect, as album by Usher (in opinion of this person) ... and since this is RnB and I'm not an expert in this style ...
I decided to ask you about that

WOW, thats some good b.s.

Are you honestly implying that Usher Confessions is more iconic than Whats Going on/Songs in the Key Of Life?

I think the poster of this thread said they read the opinion that Confessions was the most iconic. Either way, whoever thinks this is completely ignorant and clueless.

I don't own Confessions and only know a few songs, but I still KNOW Marvin and Stevie's work is more iconic.

mjscarousal said:

LiLi1992 said:

not a "personal favorite" ...
we are about the impact on the next generation of artists.

I read the opinion that Confessions - most iconic RnB album of all time.
Songs In The Key Of Life, What's Going On, Off The Wall and Purple Rain were also icons, but did not have such an effect, as album by Usher (in opinion of this person) ... and since this is RnB and I'm not an expert in this style ...
I decided to ask you about that

WOW, thats some good b.s.

Are you honestly implying that Usher Confessions is more iconic than Whats Going on/Songs in the Key Of Life?

as I thought, girl, you obviously can not read the message, but always ready to attack ...
repeat just for you: today I read this comment and was very surprised ...
ps will reveal a little secret: I do not like RnB much and never listened to the album Confessions from start to finish, so I was wondering other people's opinions, because I heard not many RnB albums.

LiLi1992 said:

not a "personal favorite" ...
we are about the impact on the next generation of artists.

I read the opinion that Confessions - most iconic RnB album of all time.
Songs In The Key Of Life, What's Going On, Off The Wall and Purple Rain were also icons, but did not have such an effect, as album by Usher (in opinion of this person) ... and since this is RnB and I'm not an expert in this style ...
I decided to ask you about that

Not even on the radar.

Usher is a techno artist now,not R&B

Nah, far from it. This is:

[img:$uid]http://991.com/NewGallery/Little-Richard-Heres-Little-Rich-484506.jpg[/img:$uid]

Confessions was at its best an urban "pop" album.

LiLi1992 said:

mjscarousal said:

WOW, thats some good b.s.

Are you honestly implying that Usher Confessions is more iconic than Whats Going on/Songs in the Key Of Life?

as I thought, girl, you obviously can not read the message, but always ready to attack ...
repeat just for you: today I read this comment and was very surprised ...
ps will reveal a little secret: I do not like RnB much and never listened to the album Confessions from start to finish, so I was wondering other people's opinions, because I heard not many RnB albums.

lol yeah I knew you wasn't a big R&B fan but nah I wouldn't call Confessions one. It's got SOME contemporary R&B in it but that's not the same as rhythm and blues, you know what I'm saying?

Timmy84 said:

Nah, far from it. This is:

[img:$uid]http://991.com/NewGallery/Little-Richard-Heres-Little-Rich-484506.jpg[/img:$uid]

Confessions was at its best an urban "pop" album.

Finally the first reasonable answer ... thank you, Timmy.

and in which artists / albums do you see the influence of this album?

LiLi1992 said:

Timmy84 said:

Nah, far from it. This is:

[img:$uid]http://991.com/NewGallery/Little-Richard-Heres-Little-Rich-484506.jpg[/img:$uid]

Confessions was at its best an urban "pop" album.

Finally the first reasonable answer ... thank you, Timmy.

and in which artists / albums do you see the influence of this album?

Oh folks like Otis Redding, James Brown, The Beatles, The Stones, Lemmy of Motorhead, etc. Even though Little Richard was a "singles artist" at best. Most of his best material was featured on this album and Rolling Stone named it number 50 on its best albums list. Also for a time it was also the most successful charted album by an R&B artist (though he was also a rock and roller) charting at No. 13. James Brown topped it with his Apollo album about six years later.

[Edited 12/5/12 9:33am]

LiLi1992 said:

not a "personal favorite" ...
we are about the impact on the next generation of artists.

I read the opinion that Confessions - most iconic RnB album of all time.
Songs In The Key Of Life, What's Going On, Off The Wall and Purple Rain were also icons, but did not have such an effect, as album by Usher (in opinion of this person) ... and since this is RnB and I'm not an expert in this style ...
I decided to ask you about that

Is this person like 19 years old???

LiLi1992 said:

mjscarousal said:

WOW, thats some good b.s.

Are you honestly implying that Usher Confessions is more iconic than Whats Going on/Songs in the Key Of Life?

as I thought, girl, you obviously can not read the message, but always ready to attack ...
repeat just for you: today I read this comment and was very surprised ...
ps will reveal a little secret: I do not like RnB much and never listened to the album Confessions from start to finish, so I was wondering other people's opinions, because I heard not many RnB albums.

Thats not attacking, Ill admit I read it wrong, BUT anybody who thinks that album is more iconic than Stevie, Marvin is insane and since that is obvious I dont see the point in posting what somebody else igornantly said.

Didn't RnB just evolve from New Jack Swing, which evolved from Funk/Disco, which evolved from Jazz?...To be honest i'm just confused as to what RnB actually is, i better shut up.

[Edited 12/5/12 13:13pm]

Toofunkyinhere said:

Didn't RnB just evolve from New Jack Swing, which evolved from Funk/Disco, which evolved from Jazz?

No this is how the timeline goes:

Spirituals

Folk

Ragtime

Jazz

Blues

Swing

Jump Blues

Rhythm and blues (R&B)

Doo wop

Rock and roll

Soul music

Funk

Disco

Hip-hop

New jack swing

Timmy84 said:

Toofunkyinhere said:

Didn't RnB just evolve from New Jack Swing, which evolved from Funk/Disco, which evolved from Jazz?

No this is how the timeline goes:

Spirituals

Folk

Ragtime

Jazz

Blues

Swing

Jump Blues

Rhythm and blues (R&B)

Doo wop

Rock and roll

Soul music

Funk

Disco

Hip-hop

New jack swing

...............................2012: trash.

Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

No this is how the timeline goes:

Spirituals

Folk

Ragtime

Jazz

Blues

Swing

Jump Blues

Rhythm and blues (R&B)

Doo wop

Rock and roll

Soul music

Funk

Disco

Hip-hop

New jack swing

...............................2012: trash.

lol I forgot to add:

Hip-hop soul

Neo soul

But I hate these two names for particular sub genres. And of course whatever goes after &B. I just call it contemporary stuff.

Timmy84 said:

Nah, far from it. This is:

[img:$uid]http://991.com/NewGallery/Little-Richard-Heres-Little-Rich-484506.jpg[/img:$uid]

Confessions was at its best an urban "pop" album.

Finally Little Richard gets love around here (big Richard fan)! I agree and disagree, I mean it is one of the greatest albums ever and I love it but I would consider it more Rock 'n' Roll. Tutti Frutti, Ready Teddy, Slippin' And Slidin', Long Tall Sally, Rip It Up, and She's Got It are 50's rock 'n' roll at its finest (the other tracks are just as amazing though). I would consider it both Rock 'n' Roll and R&B but more Rock 'n' Roll.

Although Little Richard has influenced just about everyone in Rock/R&B, I think that for modern R&B someone like Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye should take the crown here, IMO What's Going On and Songs In The Key Of Life have been more influential overall to modern R&B acts.

MiniJamesW said:

Timmy84 said:

Nah, far from it. This is:

[img:$uid]http://991.com/NewGallery/Little-Richard-Heres-Little-Rich-484506.jpg[/img:$uid]

Confessions was at its best an urban "pop" album.

Finally Little Richard gets love around here (big Richard fan)! I agree and disagree, I mean it is one of the greatest albums ever and I love it but I would consider it more Rock 'n' Roll. Tutti Frutti, Ready Teddy, Slippin' And Slidin', Long Tall Sally, Rip It Up, and She's Got It are 50's rock 'n' roll at its finest (the other tracks are just as amazing though). I would consider it both Rock 'n' Roll and R&B but more Rock 'n' Roll.

Although Little Richard has influenced just about everyone in Rock/R&B, I think that for modern R&B someone like Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye should take the crown here, IMO What's Going On and Songs In The Key Of Life have been more influential overall to modern R&B acts.

I get what you're saying lol

Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

No this is how the timeline goes:

Spirituals

Folk

Ragtime

Jazz

Blues

Swing

Jump Blues

Rhythm and blues (R&B)

Doo wop

Rock and roll

Soul music

Funk

Disco

Hip-hop

New jack swing

...............................2012: trash.

Ya made me spit out my drink laughin at that one, Gray. +1.

JamFanHot said:

Graycap23 said:

...............................2012: trash.

Ya made me spit out my drink laughin at that one, Gray. +1.

Within the last 15 years there really has not been a mainstream R&B sub category that is new besides Neo Soul. Neo Souls popularaty was very brief spanning only 5 years 1995-2000. It appears the genre R&B in itself is not a mainstream genre as it once was.

Marving gaye-What's Going On

Issac Hayes-hot Buttered Soul

Earth, Wind and Fire-Gratitude

Sly and The family Stone-There's A Riot Goin' On

Curtis Mayfield-Superly(album)

Guy's debut album may be the most influential from the past 20 years or so.

Early influential R&B records include Otis Redding's Otis Blue, Ray Charles What's I Said, JB's Live At the Apollo, Sam Cooke.

I've taken dumps with more cultural impact than an Usher CD.

Seems u guys are forgetting all about the Isley brothers, Ohio Players, the Dazz band, Mint Condition.

Graycap23 said:

Seems u guys are forgetting all about the Isley brothers, Ohio Players, the Dazz band, Mint Condition.

Did any of them have influential albums though? The Isleys Between The Sheets might be their most influential. Shout!, didn't even chart in 1959, so who know's.

The other 3 bands, naw, especialy Dazz Band.

Graycap23 said:

Seems u guys are forgetting all about the Isley brothers, Ohio Players, the Dazz band, Mint Condition.

Gray, we're talking albums, not singles.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Graycap23 said:

Seems u guys are forgetting all about the Isley brothers, Ohio Players, the Dazz band, Mint Condition.

Did any of them have influential albums though? The Isleys Between The Sheets might be their most influential. Shout!, didn't even chart in 1959, so who know's.

The other 3 bands, naw, especialy Dazz Band.

Shout did chart...on the Billboard Hot 100. I think it peaked at 47. It also apparently did successful in Australia, hitting number two...according to Wikipedia and shit.