Tittypants said:

aardvark15 said:

He really should have just shut his mouth and drummed . This reminds me of earlier today. I went to this vinyl shop and there's always a big Beatles section which has all the Beatles and Beatles solo work albums. About 70% of the stuff in the section were Ringo albums

I TOTALLY agree! I've heard a few interesting samples pulled from his albums by beatmakers though....so I guess [in some strange way] it's okay?

Well he did manage to get a number one hit somehow

Tittypants said:

aardvark15 said:

He really should have just shut his mouth and drummed . This reminds me of earlier today. I went to this vinyl shop and there's always a big Beatles section which has all the Beatles and Beatles solo work albums. About 70% of the stuff in the section were Ringo albums

I TOTALLY agree! I've heard a few interesting samples pulled from his albums by beatmakers though....so I guess [in some strange way] it's okay?

Well, Ringo did have songwriters and musicians like John Lennon, George Harrison and Paul McCartney contributing songs and playing with him, esp on his '70s albums.

Actually, Ringo's solo albums of the last 20 years haven't been bad at times either. IMO his vocals improve with age, he's written/ co-written a few good songs on these later CDs, does some good new Beatle-soundalike tracks, has some excellent backing musicians, as well as the odd cameo from George or Paul on a track or two. I actually think his album Liverpool 8 from a few years back is a decent album.

Of course, compared to the other Beatles solo albums, they're patchy and lie in the lower reaches of the quality spectrum, but they imo are at least as good as some of George's lesser solo albums , which is still imo quite high praise.

It also does no harm at all that we're hearing imo the all-time best drummer in rock/ pop recorded well and in modern sound quality - always love the sound and feel of Ringo's drums wherever I hear him play.

His album Ringo from 1973 is generally seen as his best original solo album. Pick up Photograph: The Very Best of Ringo Starr from 2007, which has a fair bit of the Ringo album on it and you may be quite pleasantly surprised .

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Even though i Love Sgt. Peppers it is highly overrated.

This album & Pet Sounds are 2 albums i think are great.. innovative and classic.

But people always proclaim these to be the 2 best albums of ALL TIME , and that sometimes ruins it a bit for me.

People act like Peppers is the be all end all pop/art record of all time & nothing else even matters.

Definately Sgt. Peppers for me, has always been one those albums that was just lost on me for some reason...

did someone say ALL OF THEM yet?!!? i don't understand their success or phenomenon!

datdude said:

did someone say ALL OF THEM yet?!!? i don't understand their success or phenomenon!

same heah

datdude said:

did someone say ALL OF THEM yet?!!? i don't understand their success or phenomenon!

What they did with their albums from Rubber Soul on out was pretty dope for that time period. They did do lots of new things when it comes to recording too. Lots of reverb & editing tricks were done with their records that really weren't being done @ that time. I respect their music. They had great songwriting too. I don't think they're the best ever, but I would definitely say they're one of the best groups.....

Tittypants said:

For me, it would have to be The Beatles (self-titled) [a.k.a The White Album]. That album always sounds as if they're trying too hard imo [I still like the album....I just don't love it]. Which would you fellow orgers say you weren't as crazy about that many others seem to be??

Supposedly, that album inspired those Helter Skelter killings, which is probably why it's so hyped

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Tittypants said:

For me, it would have to be The Beatles (self-titled) [a.k.a The White Album]. That album always sounds as if they're trying too hard imo [I still like the album....I just don't love it]. Which would you fellow orgers say you weren't as crazy about that many others seem to be??

Supposedly, that album inspired those Helter Skelter killings, which is probably why it's so hyped

I think it has more to do with it being a double album. Critics love double albums (Blonde on Blonde, Exile on Main Street, Songs in the Key of Life, London Calling, Sign 'O' the Times).

Let It Be

datdude said:

did someone say ALL OF THEM yet?!!? i don't understand their success or phenomenon!

Too bad for you

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this is how I'd rate TB albums

please please me = B+

with the beatles = A

a hard day's night = A+

beatles for sale = B-

help= B-

Rubber Soul= A+

Revolver= A+

Sgt.Peppers = A+

magical mystery tour= B+

The Beatles White Album= A

Yellow Submarine = B-

Abbey Road= A

Let it Be = A-

datdude said:

did someone say ALL OF THEM yet?!!? i don't understand their success or phenomenon!

This is heresy or ignorance.

Anytime you hear an album that consists of:

1. A cohesive and artistic whole --------- Sgt Pepper's

2. Both studio and songcraft-------- ------Sgt Pepper's

3. A pop concept album--------------------Sgt Pepper's

...you are the benefactor of the Beatles, sir. The reason you've

no appreciation for the Beatles is because how an album is

assembled today is quotidian. Prior to Sgt Peppers, albums were

mostly a collection of singles, not artistic statements that cohere.

For example:

1984, Parade, Sign O' The Times, Camille, Purple Rain: all of these Prince

conception albums owe their existence to the Beatles. You better ask some

body, homie! The Beatles' influence is so widespread, it's become mundane

and that's why people do not recognize their brilliance today.

JoeTyler said:

this is how I'd rate TB albums

magical mystery tour= B+

Wait:

side one, two or both?

duccichucka said:

JoeTyler said:

this is how I'd rate TB albums

magical mystery tour= B+

Wait:

side one, two or both?

this one is tricky, because I rate the album for non-musical reasons

in my opinion, MMT was just a glorified extended EP, a hodgepodge

I don't think there is such a thing.

rialb said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Supposedly, that album inspired those Helter Skelter killings, which is probably why it's so hyped

I think it has more to do with it being a double album. Critics love double albums (Blonde on Blonde, Exile on Main Street, Songs in the Key of Life, London Calling, Sign 'O' the Times).

What about MJ's "History" album. It almost didn't see the light of day.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

rialb said:

I think it has more to do with it being a double album. Critics love double albums (Blonde on Blonde, Exile on Main Street, Songs in the Key of Life, London Calling, Sign 'O' the Times).

What about MJ's "History" album. It almost didn't see the light of day.

Because only one half was new material, and only half of that is worthy of recognition

Beautifulstarr123 said:

rialb said:

I think it has more to do with it being a double album. Critics love double albums (Blonde on Blonde, Exile on Main Street, Songs in the Key of Life, London Calling, Sign 'O' the Times).

What about MJ's "History" album. It almost didn't see the light of day.

Should HIStory really be considered a true double album??

Tittypants said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

What about MJ's "History" album. It almost didn't see the light of day.

Should HIStory really be considered a true double album??

It's basically a greatest hits album. It originally was going to be a 2 disc greatest hits album with some new tracks thrown in. Michael's love for the songs he made during the time made him expand the new material to a full disc and shrink the hits into one disc.

aardvark15 said:

Tittypants said:

Should HIStory really be considered a true double album??

It's basically a greatest hits album. It originally was going to be a 2 disc greatest hits album with some new tracks thrown in. Michael's love for the songs he made during the time made him expand the new material to a full disc and shrink the hits into one disc.

But that's my point. It wasn't two disc of new material. Just One disc of new material [except for Come Together...ironic, huh? ] & all greatest hits on the other disc. I'm not sure that one should truly count....but hey, that's just my opinion.

Tittypants said:

aardvark15 said:

It's basically a greatest hits album. It originally was going to be a 2 disc greatest hits album with some new tracks thrown in. Michael's love for the songs he made during the time made him expand the new material to a full disc and shrink the hits into one disc.

But that's my point. It wasn't two disc of new material. Just One disc of new material [except for Come Together...ironic, huh? ] & all greatest hits on the other disc. I'm not sure that one should truly count....but hey, that's just my opinion.

True, there were both new and old songs, but it was the thought that count

duccichucka said:

Let It Be

most underrated.

Toofunkyinhere said:

duccichucka said:

Let It Be

most underrated.

YES!

Toofunkyinhere said:

duccichucka said:

Let It Be

most underrated.

Nope.

Phil Spector's shenanigans ruined what could have been a really

good album.

duccichucka said:

Toofunkyinhere said:

most underrated.

Nope.

Phil Spector's shenanigans ruined what could have been a really

good album.

On the contrary, he made it into a really good album, but it's subjective i guess as to whether you like big orchestration or not, which i do.... I don't understand how this is overrated?, Beatles fans always bag this album, yet it contains, Two of Us, Across the Universe, Let it Be, I've Got a Feeling, Long and Winding Road, Get Back...all classics.