Too many women make excuses for their abusers.

Stymie said:

And I am still not saying people should excuse him. I think you are misunderstanding me.

mjscarousal said:

And I am not justifying what he did either.....

but its not like he was BORN like that... I mean come on ... He is the product of how he was raised and the events that took place. People react to those experiences differently and apparently he reacted negatively to them. He is an adult and he should be held accountable for his actions BUT I have a better understanding of why he acts the way he does

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I'd still like to know why my father beat the crap out of his wife and kids... His upbringing was certainly no excuse...

I can forgive someone who makes a big mistake but makes an effort to get help and earn trust and forgiveness, but CB just plain seems like an unlikable person and very mediocre singer.

Not that much love in the world to want to go back to someone/or still have feelings for someone who abuse you. I understand what she's saying but still. Crackhead Brown only cared about how it messed up his career .. didn't he diss her in a song recently? He's a ass.

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the monster bash..he did the monster bash

Oh man, I thought I'd heard it all. She has got to be the stupidest cow on the planet. But for public pressure, she'd beg him to accept her back.

Identity said:

Well without getting into nonsense on this topic it's not Rihanna's responsibility

to help him become a man.

phunkdaddy said:

phunkdaddy said:

Well without getting into nonsense on this topic it's not Rihanna's responsibility

to help him become a man.

Thank you.

Stymie said:

Saying that someone will react a certain way because of certain experiences they had kind of takes the responsibility off of them, in my opinion.

I needed to take some time for this statement, because reading it makes me upset. Trying to understand someone's behavior =/ excusing them for it. It's much easier to just paint someone as just being completely evil, but that's not ever really the case. Imo, it's a very black and white way of looking at it. If trying to understand someone's behavior was just excusing them for it then why even bother with their entire field of psychology in the first place? Why not just take every criminal and just keep them in jail forever or, better yet, just stone the shit of them?! Why even bother trying to rehabilitate them in the first place if all they are just monsters?

Even I have already said countless times that I DO NOT EXCUSE CHRIS BROWN'S USE OF VIOLENCE AGAINST ANYONE OR THE FACT THAT HE HASN'T SOUGHT HELP YET. All I said is that I don't see him as a monster and stated my reasons why and that he needs help and why he may not have sought it out yet. No where in my post did I claim that Chris Brown shouldn't have to take responsibility for his own actions. The fact that you even said the quoted statement in response to my post is mainly on you & your emotions at this point, not me.

Did he do an ounce of jail time? Then I don't consider his "debt" paid.

He is not Roman Polanski. He was given his sentence and carried it out.

TD3 said:

Whatever Mr. Brown childhood an/or his adult problems, ARE HIS.

This is no different to what I have been saying since my initial post.

purplethunder3121 said:

Too many women make excuses for their abusers.

I wish my friend would understand this. It breaks my heart when she comes up with a million different excuses for her boyfriend's behavior like it's all right. It's not. I do agree what happened to him in his life sad and I think it is the main reason for his current behavior, but it doesn't excuse the way he treats her, especially in public.

Am I missing something?

I dont follow Chris Brown and all that he does... What are some things that he has done to Rihanna publicly besides the assault incident?

the perfect example of "DADDY ISSUES"

Truly sad-I always felt bad for both of them. She really still loves Chris and I think he still loves her no matter how much he tries to make folks believe otherwise.

^^^It would certainly be better for HIM if she stopped bringing it up!

nursev said:

Truly sad-I always felt bad for both of them. She really still loves Chris and I think he still loves her no matter how much he tries to make folks believe otherwise.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

nursev said:

Truly sad-I always felt bad for both of them. She really still loves Chris and I think he still loves her no matter how much he tries to make folks believe otherwise.

Yeah they played a snippet of this interview this morning on Rickey Smiley's show and u can hear it in her voice that she still loves him I think it's sad that Chris has released this statement asking why she's still talking about it He knows he still loves her too. I think if they were average folks they would have been back together.

I also think it's unfair to call RiRi a "bitch" or "stupid" no one truly knows how she got through this and I think it shows that entertainers are just people like u and me-they hurt too.

nursev said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Yeah they played a snippet of this interview this morning on Rickey Smiley's show and u can hear it in her voice that she still loves him I think it's sad that Chris has released this statement asking why she's still talking about it He knows he still loves her too. I think if they were average folks they would have been back together.

I agree with you because when I see pictures of the two of them, they light up. The chemistry is there. When I see photos of him and his current girlfriend, I don't see a lot of sparks. The heart don't lie

However, to add, I don't condone the beat down she took from him, and I do hope he gets the help that he needs.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

nursev said:

Yeah they played a snippet of this interview this morning on Rickey Smiley's show and u can hear it in her voice that she still loves him I think it's sad that Chris has released this statement asking why she's still talking about it He knows he still loves her too. I think if they were average folks they would have been back together.

I agree with you because when I see pictures of the two of them, they light up. The chemistry is there. When I see photos of him and his current girlfriend, I don't see a lot of sparks. The heart don't lie

However, to add, I don't condone the beat down she took from him, and I do hope he gets the help that he needs.

Agreed 100% He definitely needs help and she may need some counseling too-I feel bad for her cuz she will forever have to live with the stigma of being "beaten up" and the public can be so cruel sometimes.

nursev said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

I agree with you because when I see pictures of the two of them, they light up. The chemistry is there. When I see photos of him and his current girlfriend, I don't see a lot of sparks. The heart don't lie

However, to add, I don't condone the beat down she took from him, and I do hope he gets the help that he needs.

Agreed 100% He definitely needs help and she may need some counseling too-I feel bad for her cuz she will forever have to live with the stigma of being "beaten up" and the public can be so cruel sometimes.

nursev said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Yeah they played a snippet of this interview this morning on Rickey Smiley's show and u can hear it in her voice that she still loves him I think it's sad that Chris has released this statement asking why she's still talking about it He knows he still loves her too. I think if they were average folks they would have been back together.

...In a way, I sort of agree with him. From his standpoint, it just reminds him of the mistake he made that night and is trying to move on from it. But how in the world is someone going to interview Rhianna and yet not ask her about the whole incident? That is unless she tells them ahead of time not to ask any questions about the issue. I guess from his point of view, its a wound that folks keep re-opening and won't allow to heal. I can understand because it's like you make a mistake and people want to keep throwing it in your face to never let you forget it. No one is perfect, but it also doesn't help when he's constantly acting out in unbelievable immature ways either. The boy still has some deep rooted issues that he has yet to deal with, otherwise his comments wouldn't come off to be so harsh and cruel and let's not get started on his infamous Twitter rants.

And yes I do agree, he does probably still loves and care about her but for Rhianna's own good, it's best that she just act like she's moving on, as he's doing.

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missfee said:

nursev said:

Yeah they played a snippet of this interview this morning on Rickey Smiley's show and u can hear it in her voice that she still loves him I think it's sad that Chris has released this statement asking why she's still talking about it He knows he still loves her too. I think if they were average folks they would have been back together.

...In a way, I sort of agree with him. From his standpoint, it just reminds him of the mistake he made that night and is trying to move on from it. But how in the world is someone going to interview Rhianna and yet not ask her about the whole incident? That is unless she tells them ahead of time not to ask any questions about the issue. I guess from his point of view, its a wound that folks keep re-opening and won't allow to heal. I can understand because it's like you make a mistake and people want to keep throwing it in your face to never let you forget it. No one is perfect, but it also doesn't help when he's constantly acting out in unbelievable immature ways either. The boy still has some deep rooted issues that he has yet to deal with, otherwise his comments wouldn't come off to be so harsh and cruel and let's not get started on his infamous Twitter rants.

And yes I do agree, he does probably still loves and care about her but for Rhianna's own good, it's best that she just act like she's moving on, as he's doing.

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All true-I guess it's one of those situations that's best left alone. Maybe she does need to put stipulations on her interviews It would definitely make things easier for both of them.

Rihanna is still in love with Chris, she was favorting pictures of her and chris together on instagram a few weeks ago

FUCK Chris Brown.... MFer should of went to prision and been ass raped!

purplethunder3121 said:

Too many women make excuses for their abusers.

Exactly my thoughts when I read the article

Y'know what? I think people forget just how young the two of them are.

And how many of us have impulsively done things when we were that age that you don't do when you're older, smarter, have more self-control and know better.

So yeah, I understand what she's saying and I agree with her. It's a goddamn shame that this kid's worst mistake is defining his life and people want to string him up for it.

Am I condoning abuse? Absolutely not. But he fucked up once and hauled off and hit her. ONCE. Should he really have to pay for that for his entire life?

Would you want the worst thing you ever did when you were young, constantly brought up to you all the time, and to be tarred and feathered for it?

I feel for the guy, and have since it happened. And I feel for Rhianna in that sense too because they both keep getting put in a position where they can't just go on with life without this being thrown in their faces all the time.

I say cut the guy some slack. At this point though, I'm sure someone will point out that he's being a cunt on Twitter constantly...but honestly, if you had the whole world shitting on you all the time for some mistake you made years before when you were younger...you might turn into a asshole too after awhile. If you keep telling someone they're an asshole or a piece of shit, eventually they're gonna internalize that unless they're REALLY strong, and become exactly what you say they are.

Give the kid a break.

JoeTyler said:

the perfect example of "DADDY ISSUES"

Yeah, both of them.