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Reply #660 posted 07/29/12 12:54pm

babynoz

Azz said:

kibbles said:

this chapter isn't over all the way around, yet you've had no trouble calling paris a liar before it's been all sorted out, have you? you have a comment about nearly everything else, but when you have simple question before, you have nothing to say? figures.


I didn't have to wait till they end to find out that Paris was lying.

She Tweeted that her grandmother was fine without knowing her grandmothers where abouts, without speaking to her grandmother, and without seeing her grandmother for days. She was so sure that her grandmother did not have a heart attack, she disrespect her uncles & aunts, who were with Katherine.

She then reported her grandmother missing...

Somebody mentioned a heart attack? When was that? eek

Paris filed a missing persons report? I thought that was Trent.

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Reply #661 posted 07/29/12 12:58pm

Free2BMe

Azz said:

kibbles said:

this chapter isn't over all the way around, yet you've had no trouble calling paris a liar before it's been all sorted out, have you? you have a comment about nearly everything else, but when you have simple question before, you have nothing to say? figures.


I didn't have to wait till they end to find out that Paris was lying.

She Tweeted that her grandmother was fine without knowing her grandmothers where abouts, without speaking to her grandmother, and without seeing her grandmother for days. She was so sure that her grandmother did not have a heart attack, she disrespect her uncles & aunts, who were with Katherine.

She then reported her grandmother missing...

What kind of drug is Azz on? He ALWAYS seems to be talking out of his ASS.

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Reply #662 posted 07/29/12 1:01pm

musicology54

We respect them because they exposed the family for who they really are.

Azz said:



musicology54 said:


Finnaly someone says it. mookie said:



What is the deal with her fans and this family? They just bend over backwards for them and I don't understand why. What is it that they're doing these days for them to be kissing their asses this hard? It just kills their credibility. Could you see a Madonna fan giving a rat's ass about her family? Or a Paul McCartney fan doing what they can to defend his family? Like who the hell cares? They do all that for a bunch of deadbeats? Weird.



I always see them talking all this shit about MJ fans, but I don't ever see them addresing this obvious elephant in the room.



If this was MJ, his fans would have immediately screamed for MJ to get the fuck away from the family.


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What are you talking about?

Janet fans don't care about the rest of the family. MJ fans do. MJ fans have been defending those kids day and night, but that might be because MJ is no longer alive - I don't know. You don't see James Brown fans defending his children, or Elvis fans defending Lisa Marie - do you?

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Reply #663 posted 07/29/12 1:04pm

babynoz

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babynoz said:

Yep. I think trying to get Mama Kate out from under that subpoena for depo is the most likely explanation for the ruse. She would be required to answer questions instead of reading a prepared statement and none of the siblings would be allowed to hover over her and guide her answers.

Hiding witnesses to avoid answering a subpoena is very common. Do you think Mama Kate has gotten wind of the contents of that letter yet? She has publically denied being in ill health so I doubt that she knew what the letter contained. Her regular doctor also denies any recent illness despite the sibling's claims that she was away under "doctor's orders".

Being that the children were also left in the dark about the real reason for her trip, they blew the sibling's cover when they heard about the letter and started asking questions, lol I'm not even sure Mama Kate knew the kids were being prevented from talking to her either.

Now that the whole thing has backfired in spectacular fashion, people are going to have to answer to the judge and his investigator.

So much for the best laid plans of mice and men. disbelief

Now after reading such a well explained, sensible post, you know there will still be people pointing out this entire fiasco as being the children's (specifically Paris's fault)? They'll point out that and, er, um, they're not Mike's blood children with any blood connection to the Jackson Family, so why are they getting that money anyway? Or something to that effect falloff

IKR? That's a helluva deflection ain't it???

"Dey ain't "real Jacksons", blah, blah...as if that old argument has anything to do with anything. disbelief

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Reply #664 posted 07/29/12 1:06pm

Free2BMe

Ottensen said:

babynoz said:

Yep. I think trying to get Mama Kate out from under that subpoena for depo is the most likely explanation for the ruse. She would be required to answer questions instead of reading a prepared statement and none of the siblings would be allowed to hover over her and guide her answers.

Hiding witnesses to avoid answering a subpoena is very common. Do you think Mama Kate has gotten wind of the contents of that letter yet? She has publically denied being in ill health so I doubt that she knew what the letter contained. Her regular doctor also denies any recent illness despite the sibling's claims that she was away under "doctor's orders".

Being that the children were also left in the dark about the real reason for her trip, they blew the sibling's cover when they heard about the letter and started asking questions, lol I'm not even sure Mama Kate knew the kids were being prevented from talking to her either.

Now that the whole thing has backfired in spectacular fashion, people are going to have to answer to the judge and his investigator.

So much for the best laid plans of mice and men. disbelief

Now after reading such a well explained, sensible post, you know there will still be people pointing out this entire fiasco as being the children's (specifically Paris's fault)? They'll point out that and, er, um, they're not Mike's blood children with any blood connection to the Jackson Family, so why are they getting that money anyway? Or something to that effect falloff

Yes, a very well-written post. However, you already know that this sensible, rational post will go over the heads of Janet stanatics. If they had a transparent building and saw everything that Janet and Co. had done, they still would make excuse for her actions. I think a lot of these people-Janet stans and Defender of the Jacksons involved in this farce- need psychiatric attention. You have to be a mental patient to not see what Janet and Co. have done in this situation. As someone on another board said, even Steven Wonder and Ray Charles could see through this bullshit.

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Reply #665 posted 07/29/12 1:16pm

Azz

babynoz said:

Azz said:


I didn't have to wait till they end to find out that Paris was lying.

She Tweeted that her grandmother was fine without knowing her grandmothers where abouts, without speaking to her grandmother, and without seeing her grandmother for days. She was so sure that her grandmother did not have a heart attack, she disrespect her uncles & aunts, who were with Katherine.

She then reported her grandmother missing...

Somebody mentioned a heart attack? When was that? eek

Paris filed a missing persons report? I thought that was Trent.

Sorry, stroke.

And Paris posted on Twitter that her grandmother was missing, and Tweeted a number for people to call should they see her grandmother (The latter is hilarious falloff)

[Edited 7/29/12 13:16pm]

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Reply #666 posted 07/29/12 1:19pm

Azz

musicology54 said:

We respect them because they exposed the family for who they really are. Azz said:

What are you talking about?

Janet fans don't care about the rest of the family. MJ fans do. MJ fans have been defending those kids day and night, but that might be because MJ is no longer alive - I don't know. You don't see James Brown fans defending his children, or Elvis fans defending Lisa Marie - do you?

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Reply #667 posted 07/29/12 1:19pm

kibbles

Azz said:

kibbles said:

this chapter isn't over all the way around, yet you've had no trouble calling paris a liar before it's been all sorted out, have you? you have a comment about nearly everything else, but when you have simple question before, you have nothing to say? figures.


I didn't have to wait till they end to find out that Paris was lying.

She Tweeted that her grandmother was fine without knowing her grandmothers where abouts, without speaking to her grandmother, and without seeing her grandmother for days. She was so sure that her grandmother did not have a heart attack, she disrespect her uncles & aunts, who were with Katherine.

She then reported her grandmother missing...

she tweeted that her grandmother was fine b/c when she was being asked, she had no reason to believe otherwise. was it really wrong of her to assume that? b/c if i were in her shoes, i would have assumed that granny was okay, too, b/c i would think that if there was something wrong with her, or had happened to her, my uncles and aunts would have had the common decency to let me know that my grandmother was sick.

i don't know why you're insisting on calling her a liar, when paris was only going by what she knew and had every reason to believe. she knew that kat had not had a stroke, and since she had no reason to believe otherwise, she stuck to her guns. i repeat, kat has confirmed that paris is not a liar, because you seem to always gloss over that FACT.

paris did not report katherine missing, trent did. everyone who was not part of the scheme was being kept in the dark for some reason, which i'm sure that judge beckoloff will get to the bottom of shortly.

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Reply #668 posted 07/29/12 1:20pm

Azz

Free2BMe said:

Azz said:


I didn't have to wait till they end to find out that Paris was lying.

She Tweeted that her grandmother was fine without knowing her grandmothers where abouts, without speaking to her grandmother, and without seeing her grandmother for days. She was so sure that her grandmother did not have a heart attack, she disrespect her uncles & aunts, who were with Katherine.

She then reported her grandmother missing...

What kind of drug is Azz on? He ALWAYS seems to be talking out of his ASS.

Methamphetamine. Had to try some after watching Breaking Bad.

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Reply #669 posted 07/29/12 1:22pm

Azz

kibbles said:

Azz said:


I didn't have to wait till they end to find out that Paris was lying.

She Tweeted that her grandmother was fine without knowing her grandmothers where abouts, without speaking to her grandmother, and without seeing her grandmother for days. She was so sure that her grandmother did not have a heart attack, she disrespect her uncles & aunts, who were with Katherine.

She then reported her grandmother missing...

she tweeted that her grandmother was fine b/c when she was being asked, she had no reason to believe otherwise. was it really wrong of her to assume that?

Yes it was because she disrespected her uncle based on an assumption.

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Reply #670 posted 07/29/12 1:23pm

musicology54

Azz said:



Free2BMe said:




Azz said:




I didn't have to wait till they end to find out that Paris was lying.



She Tweeted that her grandmother was fine without knowing her grandmothers where abouts, without speaking to her grandmother, and without seeing her grandmother for days. She was so sure that her grandmother did not have a heart attack, she disrespect her uncles & aunts, who were with Katherine.



She then reported her grandmother missing...




What kind of drug is Azz on? He ALWAYS seems to be talking out of his ASS.




Methamphetamine. Had to try some after watching Breaking Bad.


lol
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Reply #671 posted 07/29/12 1:26pm

kibbles

Free2BMe said:

TheWifey said:

And yet no denial from Janet Jackson

Not only NO DENIAL, Miss "Nasty" Jackson said that the message was "misunderstood". Therefore, she is actually admitting that the screen message is true. The fact that her 15 year old nephew call her out on her LIE has her scared shitless. Janet KNOWS that Prince is telling the truth, this is why she can't deny it and is somewhere trying to think of ways to spin this mess. Anyone notice that this heifer is not trying to discredit Prince as they tried to do Paris. Anyone notice how Miss "Nasty" Jackson and her idiotic defenders tried to deflect and blame everything on Paris. Why are these people blaming Prince and trying to discredit him? Because they never thought that Prince was sitting back, observing, waiting for the moment to affirm that what his sister Paris was saying was correct. How stupid does Janet and Co. look when a 14 year-old girl and 15 year-old boy exposed their moronic scam? It is not only patheitic, it is embarrrasing and insulting that these people were willing to go to any lengths in order to fool the public, fans and media. This is far more than Jackson Family Business, this is intimidation and bullying of children, lying in order to deceive and manipulate and criminal behavior with breaking through a gate, trying to force a child to hand over a phone and trying to force minor children to go with them without their guardian's permission.

yep. funny how the defenders gloss over this.

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Reply #672 posted 07/29/12 1:28pm

TheWifey

Free2BMe said:

allsmutaside said:

hmmm The gloves do not work with that outfit. "...just sayin'."

It is so sad, patheitic AND predictable that Janet stans'only defense to her fucking up is to deflect by using her looks d half-naked photos to EXCUSE what she has done. Of course, what else can they do. She was caught red-handed.

Like her phat ass makes her less non-guilty. but this tells you what they really like about her.
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Reply #673 posted 07/29/12 1:32pm

Azz

kibbles said:

Free2BMe said:

Not only NO DENIAL, Miss "Nasty" Jackson said that the message was "misunderstood". Therefore, she is actually admitting that the screen message is true. The fact that her 15 year old nephew call her out on her LIE has her scared shitless. Janet KNOWS that Prince is telling the truth, this is why she can't deny it and is somewhere trying to think of ways to spin this mess. Anyone notice that this heifer is not trying to discredit Prince as they tried to do Paris. Anyone notice how Miss "Nasty" Jackson and her idiotic defenders tried to deflect and blame everything on Paris. Why are these people blaming Prince and trying to discredit him? Because they never thought that Prince was sitting back, observing, waiting for the moment to affirm that what his sister Paris was saying was correct. How stupid does Janet and Co. look when a 14 year-old girl and 15 year-old boy exposed their moronic scam? It is not only patheitic, it is embarrrasing and insulting that these people were willing to go to any lengths in order to fool the public, fans and media. This is far more than Jackson Family Business, this is intimidation and bullying of children, lying in order to deceive and manipulate and criminal behavior with breaking through a gate, trying to force a child to hand over a phone and trying to force minor children to go with them without their guardian's permission.

yep. funny how the defenders gloss over this.

When did Janet say it was 'misunderstood'.

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Reply #674 posted 07/29/12 1:33pm

kibbles

Azz said:

kibbles said:

she tweeted that her grandmother was fine b/c when she was being asked, she had no reason to believe otherwise. was it really wrong of her to assume that?

Yes it was because she disrespected her uncle based on an assumption.

boy oh boy! when paris was first asked about her grandmother, she had no believe her grandmother had a stroke, for the aforementioned reasons i stated. she had no idea where this 'rumor' as she called it came from. she had no idea that her slimeball uncle has released a letter falsely claiming that her grandmother had had a stroke. you are just determined to pin this on her. again, paris had no reason to believe her grandmother was sick, because any decent family member would have advised the kids immediately, if that were the case. she was giving her slimeball uncles and aunts the benefit of the doubt. if anything, she was giving them too much respect.

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Reply #675 posted 07/29/12 1:40pm

Azz

kibbles said:

Azz said:

Yes it was because she disrespected her uncle based on an assumption.

boy oh boy! when paris was first asked about her grandmother, she had no believe her grandmother had a stroke, for the aforementioned reasons i stated. she had no idea where this 'rumor' as she called it came from. she had no idea that her slimeball uncle has released a letter falsely claiming that her grandmother had had a stroke. you are just determined to pin this on her. again, paris had no reason to believe her grandmother was sick, because any decent family member would have advised the kids immediately, if that were the case. she was giving her slimeball uncles and aunts the benefit of the doubt. if anything, she was giving them too much respect.

she disrespected her uncle based on an assumption.

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Reply #676 posted 07/29/12 1:42pm

kibbles

babynoz said:

kibbles said:

yep, pretty much. according to their own letter, they're mad at the execs for allowing aeg to "stress" their mother by demanding that she and they answer questions.

kat should be able to answer every question aeg has, with clarity, since she's the one who filed this suit. janet and tito and rebbie have made damning allegations about mj, therefore aeg has every right to challenge kat's assertion that aeg is responsible for mj's drug problem when you have her own children out in the public painting him as a long-time junkie. to the extent that they have all told differing stories depending on the circumstances, they have no desire to be deposed or cross-examined on these stories. their lawsuit is going down in flames, and they're angry that the execs have allowed them all to be strung up by their own ropes. as well they should be.

Yep. I think trying to get Mama Kate out from under that subpoena for depo is the most likely explanation for the ruse. She would be required to answer questions instead of reading a prepared statement and none of the siblings would be allowed to hover over her and guide her answers.

Hiding witnesses to avoid answering a subpoena is very common. Do you think Mama Kate has gotten wind of the contents of that letter yet? She has publically denied being in ill health so I doubt that she knew what the letter contained. Her regular doctor also denies any recent illness despite the sibling's claims that she was away under "doctor's orders".

Being that the children were also left in the dark about the real reason for her trip, they blew the sibling's cover when they heard about the letter and started asking questions, lol I'm not even sure Mama Kate knew the kids were being prevented from talking to her either.

Now that the whole thing has backfired in spectacular fashion, people are going to have to answer to the judge and his investigator.

So much for the best laid plans of mice and men. disbelief

you are sooooo right. there is too much to explain, too much diversion, too much subterfuge for any judge to feel good about anything that's gone down in the past two weeks. i hadn't thought about the 'hiding' part, but you're probably right since they brought up aeg's deposition in their letter as one of the sources of kat's "stress".

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Reply #677 posted 07/29/12 1:53pm

babynoz

kibbles said:

babynoz said:

Yep. I think trying to get Mama Kate out from under that subpoena for depo is the most likely explanation for the ruse. She would be required to answer questions instead of reading a prepared statement and none of the siblings would be allowed to hover over her and guide her answers.

Hiding witnesses to avoid answering a subpoena is very common. Do you think Mama Kate has gotten wind of the contents of that letter yet? She has publically denied being in ill health so I doubt that she knew what the letter contained. Her regular doctor also denies any recent illness despite the sibling's claims that she was away under "doctor's orders".

Being that the children were also left in the dark about the real reason for her trip, they blew the sibling's cover when they heard about the letter and started asking questions, lol I'm not even sure Mama Kate knew the kids were being prevented from talking to her either.

Now that the whole thing has backfired in spectacular fashion, people are going to have to answer to the judge and his investigator.

So much for the best laid plans of mice and men. disbelief

you are sooooo right. there is too much to explain, too much diversion, too much subterfuge for any judge to feel good about anything that's gone down in the past two weeks. i hadn't thought about the 'hiding' part, but you're probably right since they brought up aeg's deposition in their letter as one of the sources of kat's "stress".

I swear, the four of them are like Ren and Stimpy meets Pinky and the Brain... falloff

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Reply #678 posted 07/29/12 1:59pm

kibbles

Azz said:

kibbles said:

boy oh boy! when paris was first asked about her grandmother, she had no believe her grandmother had a stroke, for the aforementioned reasons i stated. she had no idea where this 'rumor' as she called it came from. she had no idea that her slimeball uncle has released a letter falsely claiming that her grandmother had had a stroke. you are just determined to pin this on her. again, paris had no reason to believe her grandmother was sick, because any decent family member would have advised the kids immediately, if that were the case. she was giving her slimeball uncles and aunts the benefit of the doubt. if anything, she was giving them too much respect.

she disrespected her uncle based on an assumption.

repost of my previous questions to you, which you've conveniently chosen not to address:

yes, but whose lies, azz? according to her lawyer, kat laughed when she was asked about her alleged stroke. please tell me you're not trying to blame that on paris; she's the one who defended her grandmother against her uncles and aunts whose letter claimed kat had had a "mini-stroke". if she's saying that tj lied, then why on earth is she willing to share joint guardianship with someone who claimed she appeared to be under duress and incoherent?

her slimeball uncle is undeserving of respect since HE LIED, LIED, LIED about his mother's health, in doing so he was trying to lead his niece and nephews to believe that she was sick when she wasn't. paris had no reason to assume her grandmother was ill. everyone makes assumptions based on the best available information they have. you keep saying "assumption", as if paris had no right to use her own knowledge to reach an educated conclusion, and side-stepping the fact that randy and co were OUT AND OUT LYING. paris was RIGHT.

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Reply #679 posted 07/29/12 2:06pm

Azz

kibbles said:

Azz said:

she disrespected her uncle based on an assumption.

repost of my previous questions to you, which you've conveniently chosen not to address:

yes, but whose lies, azz? according to her lawyer, kat laughed when she was asked about her alleged stroke. please tell me you're not trying to blame that on paris; she's the one who defended her grandmother against her uncles and aunts whose letter claimed kat had had a "mini-stroke". if she's saying that tj lied, then why on earth is she willing to share joint guardianship with someone who claimed she appeared to be under duress and incoherent?

her slimeball uncle is undeserving of respect since HE LIED, LIED, LIED about his mother's health, in doing so he was trying to lead his niece and nephews to believe that she was sick when she wasn't. paris had no reason to assume her grandmother was ill. everyone makes assumptions based on the best available information they have. you keep saying "assumption", as if paris had no right to use her own knowledge to reach an educated conclusion, and side-stepping the fact that randy and co were OUT AND OUT LYING. paris was RIGHT.

Whether Randy was lying or not. She should not have disrespected her uncle based on an assumption. It is not an educated conclusion, because her assumption was based only on the condition of her mother days prior, and knew nothing of her health on that day.

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Reply #680 posted 07/29/12 2:09pm

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Azz said:

Free2BMe said:

What kind of drug is Azz on? He ALWAYS seems to be talking out of his ASS.

Methamphetamine. Had to try some after watching Breaking Bad.

Why are you still being so nice in reply to this person? lol Courtesy for this individual is so not due.

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Reply #681 posted 07/29/12 2:12pm

Azz

WaterInYourBath said:

Azz said:

Methamphetamine. Had to try some after watching Breaking Bad.

Why are you still being so nice in reply to this person? lol Courtesy for this individual is so not due.

Because although I care enough to reply in this thread, I don't care enough to feel any anger or upset at this thread. Therefore I express none in my posts. My life is niether dependent on Janet, Michael or MJ's children, unlike this delusional and obsessive person. And perhaps because I feel some sort of pity and sorrow that this person finds some value in spending his time researching and arguing about something so trivial. But I guess, to him, this is not trivial, it's family.

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Reply #682 posted 07/29/12 2:15pm

SoulAlive

Jermaine said that his mother definitely had a stroke recently,but Katherine laughed at that report.

Some of these family members can't even get their lies straight lol

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Reply #683 posted 07/29/12 2:17pm

Azz

WaterInYourBath said:

Azz said:

Methamphetamine. Had to try some after watching Breaking Bad.

Why are you still being so nice in reply to this person? lol Courtesy for this individual is so not due.

And yet it is my account which is deactivated by a moderator, further proof that she's doing her a miserable job.

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Reply #684 posted 07/29/12 2:19pm

Azz

ROLAND S. MARTIN EXCLUSIVE: Janet Jackson, Others Family Members Barred From Mom’s California Home JULY 29, 2012 ARTS 2 COMMENTS By Roland S. Martin Editor-in-Chief RolandMartinReports.com The executors of Michael Jackson’s estate have barred a number of the late singer’s siblings, including Janet Jackson, from the California home where their mother, Katherine, is raising the late singers three children. The details of who is and isn’t allowed onto the Calabas, California is detailed in an email obtained by CNN’s Roland S. Martin. Howard Weitzman, who represents John McClain and John Branca, sent the email Wednesday to Charles Schultz, an attorney for Mrs. Jackson. Weitzman writes that after the drama over the last two weeks, which including allegations that Katherine Jackson had gone missing for 10 days and was unable to reach Paris, Prince and Blanket Jackson, which led to her having to share guardianship of the children with another grandchild, TJ Jackson, it is necessary to bar certain family and friends from the property. “Given the circumstances of the last two weeks, and in order to protect the children and Mrs. Jackson, the Executors believe that it would not be appropriate to allow the following individuals to enter the residence or its grounds and we instruct the security to preclude the following from entering the residence or the grounds: Randy Jackson and any of his children, Janet Jackson, Rebbie Jackson and any of her children, Jermaine Jackson, his wife and any of his children, Janice Smith, or anyone else who was involved in the recent events that led to Mrs. Jackson’s separation from and inability to communicate with Michael’s children, or any agents or representatives of any of these individuals,” Weitzman wrote. “There will be no other security or drivers allowed on the property except those employed by the Estate of Michael Jackson. Joe Jackson is precluded from entering the property. Howard Mann who is in litigation against the Estate and is working with the Jackson siblings that wrote the “letter” should also not be allowed on the premises.” The “letter” Weitzman is referring to is the one signed by Randy, Janet, Jermaine, Rebbie and Tito Jackson, alleging that the 2002 will authorizing Branca and McClain to be the executors of estate is fraudulent. Tito later apologized for signing the letter. “Of course, Paris, Prince and Blanket, T.J. and his brothers, Tito, Marlon, Jackie and their spouses, current security (hired by the Estate), staff (per T.J.), Meg Lodise, Michael Kane, Sandra Ribera, Parry Sanders, Trent Jackson, you (Charles Shultz) and anyone else authorized by T.J. (other than the Excluded Individuals listed above), may enter and remain on the premises,” Weitzman wrote. Weitzman’s email does not mention Michael’s sister, LaToya, and whether she can visit the property. She has publicly called on her family to stop the infighting. According to a Jackson family source, the estate is allowed to make such demands because it pays the monthly lease payment on the Calabas home. Katherine Jackson controls the $70,000 monthly stipend the estate allocates to each Jackson child – a total of $210,000 – any way she sees fit, including school costs and other expenses. Katherine Jackson is currently in the process of trying to purchase the home so the estate won’t be able to dictate such terms, the source said. Weitzman writes that if law enforcement needs to be made of the letter, Schultz, T.J. Jackson or anyone else is authorized to show it to them. “It is imperative to the Estate that from this point forward a safe and appropriate environment be provided for Michael Jackson’s children and his mother as well,” Weitzman wrote.

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Azz said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Why are you still being so nice in reply to this person? lol Courtesy for this individual is so not due.

Because although I care enough to reply in this thread, I don't care enough to feel any anger or upset at this thread. Therefore I express none in my posts. My life is niether dependent on Janet, Michael or MJ's children, unlike this delusional and obsessive person. And perhaps because I feel some sort of pity and sorrow that this person finds some value in spending his time researching and arguing about something so trivial. But I guess, to him, this is not trivial, it's family.

Got'cha.

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Reply #686 posted 07/29/12 2:20pm

Azz

Azz said:

ROLAND S. MARTIN EXCLUSIVE: Janet Jackson, Others Family Members Barred From Mom’s California Home JULY 29, 2012 ARTS 2 COMMENTS By Roland S. Martin Editor-in-Chief RolandMartinReports.com The executors of Michael Jackson’s estate have barred a number of the late singer’s siblings, including Janet Jackson, from the California home where their mother, Katherine, is raising the late singers three children. The details of who is and isn’t allowed onto the Calabas, California is detailed in an email obtained by CNN’s Roland S. Martin. Howard Weitzman, who represents John McClain and John Branca, sent the email Wednesday to Charles Schultz, an attorney for Mrs. Jackson. Weitzman writes that after the drama over the last two weeks, which including allegations that Katherine Jackson had gone missing for 10 days and was unable to reach Paris, Prince and Blanket Jackson, which led to her having to share guardianship of the children with another grandchild, TJ Jackson, it is necessary to bar certain family and friends from the property. “Given the circumstances of the last two weeks, and in order to protect the children and Mrs. Jackson, the Executors believe that it would not be appropriate to allow the following individuals to enter the residence or its grounds and we instruct the security to preclude the following from entering the residence or the grounds: Randy Jackson and any of his children, Janet Jackson, Rebbie Jackson and any of her children, Jermaine Jackson, his wife and any of his children, Janice Smith, or anyone else who was involved in the recent events that led to Mrs. Jackson’s separation from and inability to communicate with Michael’s children, or any agents or representatives of any of these individuals,” Weitzman wrote. “There will be no other security or drivers allowed on the property except those employed by the Estate of Michael Jackson. Joe Jackson is precluded from entering the property. Howard Mann who is in litigation against the Estate and is working with the Jackson siblings that wrote the “letter” should also not be allowed on the premises.” The “letter” Weitzman is referring to is the one signed by Randy, Janet, Jermaine, Rebbie and Tito Jackson, alleging that the 2002 will authorizing Branca and McClain to be the executors of estate is fraudulent. Tito later apologized for signing the letter. “Of course, Paris, Prince and Blanket, T.J. and his brothers, Tito, Marlon, Jackie and their spouses, current security (hired by the Estate), staff (per T.J.), Meg Lodise, Michael Kane, Sandra Ribera, Parry Sanders, Trent Jackson, you (Charles Shultz) and anyone else authorized by T.J. (other than the Excluded Individuals listed above), may enter and remain on the premises,” Weitzman wrote. Weitzman’s email does not mention Michael’s sister, LaToya, and whether she can visit the property. She has publicly called on her family to stop the infighting. According to a Jackson family source, the estate is allowed to make such demands because it pays the monthly lease payment on the Calabas home. Katherine Jackson controls the $70,000 monthly stipend the estate allocates to each Jackson child – a total of $210,000 – any way she sees fit, including school costs and other expenses. Katherine Jackson is currently in the process of trying to purchase the home so the estate won’t be able to dictate such terms, the source said. Weitzman writes that if law enforcement needs to be made of the letter, Schultz, T.J. Jackson or anyone else is authorized to show it to them. “It is imperative to the Estate that from this point forward a safe and appropriate environment be provided for Michael Jackson’s children and his mother as well,” Weitzman wrote.

Essentially, this means that Katherine is now a prisoner in her own home. She can't leave the house to visit four of her children, many grandchildren, and her husband, for fear of having her guardianship stripped.

[Edited 7/29/12 14:23pm]

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Reply #687 posted 07/29/12 2:35pm

SoulAlive

no,it means that the "bad people" are banned from entering Katherine's home.Maybe that's not such a bad idea,for now.

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Reply #688 posted 07/29/12 2:37pm

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SoulAlive said:

no,it means that the "bad people" are banned from entering Katherine's home.Maybe that's not such a bad idea,for now.


Pretty much.
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Reply #689 posted 07/29/12 2:44pm

TheWifey

Azz said:

TheWifey said:

And yet no denial from Janet Jackson

Janet has class. She doesn't go to the media or the public to prove something, she knows that neither are her friend.

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No she lets her stans do her dirty work for her. You been paid yet? or is looking at her honey brown, $150 million ass pay enough?
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