dag said:

LiLi1992 said:

Yes, he was concerned about their security and privacy ... sometimes too much and it was a bit weird .. but it's MJ, you know

Now we know why.

Ottensen said:

lazycrockett said:

Its hilarious watching this family implode.

It would be entertaining if 3 young children weren't involved, but now it's just tawdry and wretched.

Now I'm beginning to understand Michael's logic of listing Diana Ross as desired guardian in the will...to keep them away from those lazy, crumb snatching siblings of his. This is all just too...ugh..!

Also Margaret Lodise is clear that she don't trust ANY Jackson family member. ANY member. This is not gonna end well...

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

The fight wasn't necessarily with Paris and Janet though Janet definitely tried to force Paris' hand. Paris was like "back off" and walked away before Janet could get to her again. The "big fight" was with Trent and Randy.

Holyshit, this really is a War Of The Jacksons! It's Trent (Tito's son?) VS. Randy (Tito's baby brother).

Trent is Joseph's nephew.

Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Holyshit, this really is a War Of The Jacksons! It's Trent (Tito's son?) VS. Randy (Tito's baby brother).

Trent is Joseph's nephew.

Why the hell is he around? And working with the estate, no less.

Azz said:

Timmy84 said:

Don't know if this was posted already, if so, my apologies but it looks like Margaret Lodise is looking to permanently strip Katherine her guardianship rights to PPB:

Attorney For Michael Jack...on Family

Michael Jackson's children's court-appointed attorney, Margaret Lodise, will be asking a judge to strip Katherine Jackson's guardianship of Paris, Prince, and Blanket because she has been out of town for more than a week, because she believes the children aren't safe following a physical altercation with Janet, Jermaine, and Randy Jackson, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

http://www.radaronline.co...son-family

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So Tito Joe may not even get temporary rights to them if this is the case from Margaret...

i called it a long time ago. i said, if they keep pushing, katherine is going to lose custody of these kids.

number one, i don't care if katherine is on a 'vacay'. she still has an obligation to check on those kids on her own initiative. she's got time to be around 'family' and play uno on her supposed stress-free vacay, but she doesn't have time to call mj's kids to speak to them for five minutes? she receives a fucking visit from the sheriff's department, who must have directly told her that her granddaughter in particular had been asking about her, and that doesn't prompt her to call? she should lose custody for that shit right there.

number two, the kids can't go to any other jackson. every other jackson in this matter has shown just how weak and ineffectual they are. tito's kids ought to be ashamed of themselves after all mj did for them. this shit didn't just start last week; it has likely been going on since june, 2009. they are grown men, any one of them could have gotten a lawyer and challenged katherine's custody since they have been aware of the situation from day one. not only that, there is this particularly nasty column in a chicago paper which is sourced to a jackson insider wherein they make very clear that the jacksons in general don't accept mj3 as 'blood' and 'family'. if mj3 are put with tj or whomever, the leeches will still have access to them since these other jacksons have shown they can't stand up to randy and jermaine.

[Edited 7/24/12 10:45am]

Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Famed Washington DC Law Firm Says They Do NOT Represent Jackson Siblings

Do Randy, Jermaine and Janet Jackson have a lawyer to help them pull off their palace coup? Maybe not. A representative for Baker Hostetler in Washington DC has just called to say they do not represent the Jackson siblings and have not been engaged by them. In the letter signed by Randy, Jermaine and Janet sent to the Michael Jackson estate, Baker Hostetler’s name was invoked as possibly giving the signees advice. Sources tell me that BH partner John Manson was approached and did look into the matter. When I asked the rep who called about Manson’s participation, or if he’d given anyone advice, she simply kept reading the same two lines over and over. Then she added, “For anything else you’ll have to ask Randy Jackson.” And didn’t mean the judge from “American Idol.”

http://www.showbiz411.com...n-siblings

WOW! Talk about being busted.

Personally I think the siblings are full of shit and they're just blatantly trying to make a money grab, end of.

...and insofar as Paris tweeting her happy little teenaged ass off giving the play by play, I'm actually relieved for her that she has Twitter access; it's giving her a voice so that she can be heard -and give everybody the 411 on what insanity is going down in her family, with her and her brothers as the pawns. This is some trifling mess.

I knew it was Randall. He's the nuttiest one. Maybe even more nutty than Latoya. Well maybe not but you get the point.

musicology54 said:

There you go again. Do you get a kick out of insulting us? Can you make one post without insulting mj fans? Azz said:

I'm sure everyone one here has once had their phone taken away by an authority figure.

No need to exaggerate what happened. Now MJ fans are saying Janet assaulted Paris.

How is that an insult? It's irrelivant anyway.

Azz said:

TonyVanDam said:

It's a good thing Randy did interject to stop Janet from taking the smartphone from Paris. Given that he is fully aware of how powerful information technology has become these days, anything the Jackson siblings say OR do at this point can and will be used against them in court.

I'm sure everyone one here has once had their phone taken away by an authority figure.

No need to exaggerate what happened. Now MJ fans are saying Janet assaulted Paris.

Paris seems to be the only aspect you keep on talking about while the fact that Katherine is somewhere "resting" playing cards smiling, not caring that she was reported missing and that cops were at her house and now she might lose the custody of the kids does not seem to bother you at all. Of course Paris being hysterical is the only reason why this is all happening. It even made Janet come from Italy as if a teenager couldn't be handled by adults that were already around. Wow, her trying to get attention even got the estate working. And all of this is happening because of Paris. Unbelievable.

Crazy - O - Meter ----- Least Sane To Most Sane

1. Latoya

2. Randy

3. Michael

4. Jermaine

5. Janet

6. Jackie

7. Tito

8. Marlon

9. Rebbie

Azz said:

musicology54 said:

Ottensen said: agreed.

There is no logic in listing Diana Ross as a back-up guardian.

She don't want nothing to do with those kids.

Are you Diana Ross or what?

kibbles said:

Timmy84 said:

Don't know if this was posted already, if so, my apologies but it looks like Margaret Lodise is looking to permanently strip Katherine her guardianship rights to PPB:

Attorney For Michael Jack...on Family

Michael Jackson's children's court-appointed attorney, Margaret Lodise, will be asking a judge to strip Katherine Jackson's guardianship of Paris, Prince, and Blanket because she has been out of town for more than a week, because she believes the children aren't safe following a physical altercation with Janet, Jermaine, and Randy Jackson, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

http://www.radaronline.co...son-family

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So Tito Joe may not even get temporary rights to them if this is the case from Margaret...

i called it a long time ago. i said, if they keep pushing, katherine is going to lose custody of these kids.

number one, i don't care if katherine is on a 'vacay'. she still has an obligation to check on those kids on her own initiative. she's got time to be around 'family' and play uno on her supposed stress-free vacay, but she doesn't have time to call mj's kids to speak to them for five minutes? she receives a fucking visit from the sheriff's department, who must have directly told her that her granddaughter in particular had been asking about her, and that doesn't prompt her to call? she should lose custody for that shit right there.

number two, the kids can't go to any other jackson. every other jackson in this matter has shown just how weak and ineffectual they are. tito's kids ought to be ashamed of themselves after all mj did for them. this shit didn't just start last week; it has likely been going on since june, 2009. they are grown men, any one of them could have gotten a lawyer and challenged katherine's custody since they have been aware of the situation from day one. not only that, there is this particularly nasty column in a chicago paper which is sourced to a jackson insider wherein they make very clear that they don't accept mj3 as 'blood' and 'family'. if mj3 are put with tj or whomever, the leeches will still have access to them since these other jacksons have shown they can't stand up to randy and jermaine.

Like I said, this is not gonna well. You got Tito's sons and Trent Jackson on one side and Rebbie, Janet, Jermaine, Randy (and possibly Tito) on the other. And then they lie about having a top firm looking into the will. Then a video shows Janet trying to force Paris' cell phone from her hand. Then a scuffle breaks out between Trent, Jermaine and Randy. Then the kids are moved into another location safe from harm. I doubt Tito's son will get rights, I'm afraid, if Margaret is adamant that no member of the family gets the right to look after them all because Katherine hasn't contacted the kids yet.

dag said:

Azz said:

I'm sure everyone one here has once had their phone taken away by an authority figure.

No need to exaggerate what happened. Now MJ fans are saying Janet assaulted Paris.

Paris seems to be the only aspect you keep on talking about while the fact that Katherine is somewhere "resting" playing cards smiling, not caring that she was reported missing and that cops were at her house and now she might lose the custody of the kids does not seem to bother you at all. Of course Paris being hysterical is the only reason why this is all happening. It even made Janet come from Italy as if a teenager couldn't be handled by adults that were already around. Wow, her trying to get attention even got the estate working. And all of this is happening because of Paris. Unbelievable.

Katherine could have called if she wanted to. No one is holding her against her will. She is 82. She shouldn't have to look after kids - especially not attention seeking teenagers. I'm not surprised Katherine ran the other way.

Especially with those evil executives, which Michael even condemned himself. They are also paying Trent Jackson, and aiding the removal of katherine as gaurdian.

dag said:

Azz said:

There is no logic in listing Diana Ross as a back-up guardian.

She don't want nothing to do with those kids.

Are you Diana Ross or what?

Diana is on record saying she wouldn't/couldn't look after them/bring them up.

Azz said:

dag said:

Paris seems to be the only aspect you keep on talking about while the fact that Katherine is somewhere "resting" playing cards smiling, not caring that she was reported missing and that cops were at her house and now she might lose the custody of the kids does not seem to bother you at all. Of course Paris being hysterical is the only reason why this is all happening. It even made Janet come from Italy as if a teenager couldn't be handled by adults that were already around. Wow, her trying to get attention even got the estate working. And all of this is happening because of Paris. Unbelievable.

Katherine could have called if she wanted to. No one is holding her against her will. She is 82. She shouldn't have to look after kids - especially not attention seeking teenagers. I'm not surprised Katherine ran the other way.

Especially with those evil executives, which Michael even condemned himself. They are also paying Trent Jackson, and aiding the removal of katherine as gaurdian.

You don't know the full story. Just like when Randy and Janet stormed MJ's compound before to do another intervention and MJ fans (without knowing the extent of his drug problems at the point) said they were invading his privacy, no they were trying to do what's best for their brother. They were trying to save his life.

I hope you never have kids cause you're gonna leave them the minute they want your attention which will be like a minute after their birth.

What are Marlon, Jackie and LaToya's position on this Jackson's acting like monkey doodle fools parade?

Ottensen said:

Timmy84 said:

WOW! Talk about being busted.

Personally I think the siblings are full of shit and they're just blatantly trying to make a money grab, end of.

...and insofar as Paris tweeting her happy little teenaged ass off giving the play by play, I'm actually relieved for her that she has Twitter access; it's giving her a voice so that she can be heard -and give everybody the 411 on what insanity is going down in her family, with her and her brothers as the pawns. This is some trifling mess.

Totally agree especially with the bolded part! I was never really a fan of her being on Twitter in the first place. I was one of the ones who felt that she shouldnt even have an account. But due to this family war and madness that has broken out I am very glad that she is tweeting her fingers off alerting everyone to this situation. Who knows how this would have ended up if it werent for her cries for help?

"It was absolute utter chaos at the house. Lodise quickly determined that the children aren't safe around Michael Jackson's siblings and will be asking the judge to strip Katherine Jackson of guardianship of the children. Under no circumstances is it acceptable for the children to be subjected to any level of violence. The kids saw Jermaine and Randy get into a fight with Joe Jackson's nephew, Trent, who lives with the children and Katherine at the house. Trent was simply trying to prevent the trio from taking the kids. Janet kept asking where the kids passports were! It's truly sad that it has come to this, but this was brought on my Michael's siblings," a source close to the situation tells us.

Full Story: http://www.radaronline.co...son-family

Azz said:

Timmy84 said:

Trent is Joseph's nephew.

Why the hell is he around? And working with the estate, no less.

From what I understand, Michael hired him years ago to work for and look after Katherine.

Tito now supposedly regrets signing that letter...

Tito Jackson's son, 34-year-old, TJ, is seeking to become the temporary guardian of Michael Jackson's three children, and Tito now regrets signing a letter with his siblings asking for the executors of the estate to step down,RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting....TJ's father, Tito, is now having serious regrets about signing a letter with his siblings asking the executors of Michael's estate to resign. Tito now sees that his siblings are only after money and he wants no part of it."

Full story: http://www.radaronline.co...ito-son-tj

You beat me to posting the story NaughtyKitty. Yeah it had been alleged earlier today that "one of the siblings didn't like what his siblings were doing" and Tito basically confirmed this.

Azz said:

musicology54 said:

Ottensen said: agreed.

There is no logic in listing Diana Ross as a back-up guardian.

1. No offense, but I wasn't talking to you.

2. My opinions have good credit, and frankly do not need a co-signer.

3. Your response is your opinion- and that's fine, but honestly, you can save it for another orger who might be more interested in engaging you. You've gotten in more than enough responses on this thread to not have to reply to me, so let's just agree to disagree and allow me to bid a good day to you.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Azz said:

Why the hell is he around? And working with the estate, no less.

From what I understand, Michael hired him years ago to work for and look after Katherine.

That's exactly why he hired him. The other Jacksons don't like him for some reason.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

What are Marlon, Jackie and LaToya's position on this Jackson's acting like monkey doodle fools parade?

Probably no comment. But Latoya has strangely been silent throughout this. Joseph probably feels some type of way though since his nephew got into a fight with his sons. I'm sure he knows about it.

Anyways, here's the full report from Radar Online about TJ trying to get guardianship rights and Tito's regrets over signing the letter:

Tito Jackson's Son, TJ, Seeking Temporary Custody Of Michael Jackson's Kids


By Jen Heger - Radar Assistant Managing Editor

Tito Jackson's son, 34-year-old, TJ, is seeking to become the temporary guardian of Michael Jackson's three children, and Tito now regrets signing a letter with his siblings asking for the executors of the estate to step down, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

As Radar was first to report -- and as was captured on surveillance video broadcast on Good Morning America Tuesday -- Paris Jackson's aunt, Janet tried to take her cell phone from her Monday, and the children watched in horror as Jermaine and Randy got into a physical altercation with Trent Jackson, who is Joe Jackson's nephew.

"Michael's kids all want TJ to become their temporary guardian," a source close to the situation tells Radar. "They trust and love him. Of course, they want Katherine to come home, but they don't have any control of that at this point and just want the drama to stop. TJ's father, Tito, is now having serious regrets about signing a letter with his siblings asking the executors of Michael's estate to resign. Tito now sees that his siblings are only after money and he wants no part of it."

Paris, Prince Michael and Blanket met with their court appointed attorney, Margaret Lodise on Monday evening after Jermaine, Randy and Janet attempted to remove the kids from their home and take them to Arizona.

"Margaret went to the house on Monday evening as a meeting with the children was requested," a source close to the situation previously told Radar. "This came after Jermaine, Randy and Janet tried to take them out of state. Katherine has now been out of the picture for over a week and legal options are now being pursued in order to ensure that the children are safe."

Katherine Jackson has been in Arizona for more than a week and hasn't talked to her grandchildren during that entire time. Last night, Paris Tweeted, "8 days and counting . something is really off , this isn't like her at all .. i wanna talk directly to my grandmother!!<|3"

Tuesday morning, Paris fired off another Tweet: "9 days and counting... so help me god i will make whoever did this pay".

"Michael's children will remain together, that is absolutely certain. The estate just wants to ensure that the children are safe, and away from all of this Jackson family insanity," the source says.

The bid for the temporary guardianship will most likely be heard in family court in Los Angeles on Wednesday.

Timmy84 said:

kibbles said:

i called it a long time ago. i said, if they keep pushing, katherine is going to lose custody of these kids.

number one, i don't care if katherine is on a 'vacay'. she still has an obligation to check on those kids on her own initiative. she's got time to be around 'family' and play uno on her supposed stress-free vacay, but she doesn't have time to call mj's kids to speak to them for five minutes? she receives a fucking visit from the sheriff's department, who must have directly told her that her granddaughter in particular had been asking about her, and that doesn't prompt her to call? she should lose custody for that shit right there.

number two, the kids can't go to any other jackson. every other jackson in this matter has shown just how weak and ineffectual they are. tito's kids ought to be ashamed of themselves after all mj did for them. this shit didn't just start last week; it has likely been going on since june, 2009. they are grown men, any one of them could have gotten a lawyer and challenged katherine's custody since they have been aware of the situation from day one. not only that, there is this particularly nasty column in a chicago paper which is sourced to a jackson insider wherein they make very clear that they don't accept mj3 as 'blood' and 'family'. if mj3 are put with tj or whomever, the leeches will still have access to them since these other jacksons have shown they can't stand up to randy and jermaine.

Like I said, this is not gonna well. You got Tito's sons and Trent Jackson on one side and Rebbie, Janet, Jermaine, Randy (and possibly Tito) on the other. And then they lie about having a top firm looking into the will. Then a video shows Janet trying to force Paris' cell phone from her hand. Then a scuffle breaks out between Trent, Jermaine and Randy. Then the kids are moved into another location safe from harm. I doubt Tito's son will get rights, I'm afraid, if Margaret is adamant that no member of the family gets the right to look after them all because Katherine hasn't contacted the kids yet.

yep. co-sign on aaaalllll of what you posted. how do you pick anyone out this group? tj and trent have known the true story for a long time. but now tj wants custody? why wait until the shit gets to this point to alert ms. lodise, the execs, the judge? he's grown up with these people all of his life, he knows they can't be talked to. he and trent watched as joe and kat made those kids sign those belts in direct contravention of their own financial interests - and they did nothing. the whole 'heal the world' and howard mann and the perfume scams. DID NOTHING! they don't deserve custody any more than katherine.

on edit: yeah, right. tito's sorry for the letter. he's only sorry that it turned into a nightmare for the jacksons and they're reaping the bad publicity. he - like all of his other siblings - thought they would somehow have the upper hand in this fight. stupid, stupid, stupid people.

[Edited 7/24/12 11:09am]

Timmy84 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

From what I understand, Michael hired him years ago to work for and look after Katherine.

That's exactly why he hired him. The other Jacksons don't like him for some reason.

Reminds me of the Grace, the kid's nanny vs. the Jackson family situation. Michael hired Grace but the Jacksons didnt like her either and put all kinds of stories in the press about Grace supposedly controlling Michael, keeping him drugged up and keeping him away from his family.

Oh and if anyone is wondering about Joe's take on this situation, this is what he told Jacky Jasper (aka Hollywood Street King) about Katherine gone missing:

Here’s what Joe Jackson exclusively told HSK:

“It’s 10 O’clock Sunday morning and I don’t wanna talk about it. Jacky, when I’m ready to talk about it, I’ll call you.”

http://diaryofahollywoods...more-48516

Good ol papa Joe

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

Reminds me of the Grace, the kid's nanny vs. the Jackson family situation. Michael hired Grace but the Jacksons didnt like her either and put all kinds of stories in the press about Grace supposedly controlling Michael, keeping him drugged up and keeping him away from his family.

Oh and if anyone is wondering about Joe's take on this situation, this is what he told Jacky Jasper (aka Hollywood Street King) about Katherine gone missing:

Here’s what Joe Jackson exclusively told HSK:

“It’s 10 O’clock Sunday morning and I don’t wanna talk about it. Jacky, when I’m ready to talk about it, I’ll call you.”

http://diaryofahollywoods...more-48516

Good ol papa Joe

I doubt he really loves his wife or any of his children. His silence speaks a lot of volumes. He's probably laughing because "those two knucklehead sons of mine just tried to fight Trent. Punks." Obviously he don't care for Katherine or his grandkids...

[Edited 7/24/12 11:12am]

-A teenager defies her older relatives

-A brother and sister have an argument outside their family home

-A family fights over their deceased relative's money

WOW! These Jacksons are crazy I have never heard anything like this before!

It's unbelievable.

Please!!!!! I could knock on my neighbour’s door and see the same shit happening in front of my very eyes.

Azz said: