I have to say that I'm with the others on this thread that this just isnt that great.

I finally listened to it today and yes its got some ok nice R&B tracks going on but nothing mind blowing like so many others are preaching....

I wanted to like it and really dig it...but unfortunately...its just so-so

Also, Pilot Jones sounds NOTHING like Prince in any way shape of fashion...I think people just want to compare it to something to hype it up some more

I know this cat is incredibly talented but its just not doing anything for me...

NEXT!

Frank Ocean is winning praise from critics with his major-label debut channel ORANGE. But Jermaine Dupri hopes the album’s success has a larger impact on the entire genre of R&B. The So So Def CEO wrote a letter on his site Global 14 lauding the album and hoping that it sells 200,000 copies (HITS Daily Double estimates sales of 125-135,000 in its first week based on iTunes only).

According to the hitmaker, R&B is in a state of emergency and Ocean may just be the person to save it. “The record companies don’t believe in it, radio won’t play it if it don’t have a rapper, and a majority of the artist that are labeled RnB are confused and lost,” writes J.D.

He hopes channel ORANGE‘s success will send a wake-up call to label executives and get radio to play more R&B records.

Do you agree with J.D.? Read his open letter below.


When I saw the # that Frank Ocean is suppose to hit next week, I got extremely Happy,I said I need to get in my car and and listen to this album,by the time I got to “Sweet Life” I was even more happy,finally!! a RnB album that’s hip,with out having the same 5 rappers on every song,I actually hope he hits 200k,for the sake of RnB,it’s in the worst position it’s ever been since I started making music,The Record company’s don’t believe in it,Radio won’t play it if it don’t have a rapper,and a majority of the artist that are labeled RnB,are confused and lost,so I repeat,I hope Ocean sells more than the 125k that he’s on pace for,maybe these executives u’llwake the fuck up,or at least try to copy what he’s doing,like they always do, by the way,the end of “Pyramids” jammin like a mufucka.

hmmmm And Adele gave him a shoutout on twitter.

WaterInYourBath said:

TheNatTurner said:

Let's be honest. No one knew who Frank Ocean was, and him coming out helped increase his sales because of the type of fan base he had, it was a great marketing strategy. Let's get real dude was already suspect, he was already feminine, he was an underground artist singing hooks, no other way with the timing of all the gay agendas being pressed for him to come out talking about him some dick - other words not as big a risk as say if an established artist did the same, good job def jam - and the media ran away with it, even calling him a rapper, because no one including journalist in the media really gave a crap about some straight nasal pitchy singing kid from a group of crappy youtube teen sensations,

make him bisexual and bingo

Frankie you on cause the agenda is in full throttle, even to the point if you don't like it you labeled a homophobic, or Target was being labeled as homophobic for not having the album, but Target like fuck a Frankie Ocean and Def Jam we want exclusive shit - It does work that way, and it is working that way for him coming out that he is gay

Frankie Ocean lived a dishonest life, and now wants you to feel sorry for him because he is so confused is he like dick or pussy he wrote some songs about it, called all the computer geeks over made an album, got pasty ass Mayer to noodle, and all of a sudden this cat has the album of the year

shit's an hodgepodge of uneven gay lament stories with Phafake playing parts of all his fav Stevie tracks, not R&B and def not hip hop, casue that shit Earl did would get him 2$ in a hat, that shit Andre did was embarassing sounded like some grade F stankonia track done by Big Boi's baby nephew, and that guitar LOFL man - REALLY (I see why Big Boi don't fuck with that boy no more) and like I said this Frankie cat would get booed on Apollo and prob 2.5 stars on star Search, clowned by Nick Cannon on America's got Talent, wouldn't even make American Idol

I posted a similar theory when this first started on the Frank Ocean thread in General Discussion. I believe this is all a ploy as well, except I also suspect he is not really sexually attracted to men either. Since it's not the 80s anymore, revealing whatever orientation in "Hip-Hop/R&B" is of no consequence now, so something like this is clearly NOT a disadvantage, and if anything, can aid a person to instant popularity (like Ocean). And if true, then THAT'S "brilliant," 'cause the idea has clearly worked, and he's about to win all types of top charting and unwarranted Grammy awards.

You continue to show a woeful lack of knowledge of the Hip-hop and R&B world, especially by stating "it's not the 80's anymore, so obviously it's of no consequence." This forum sometimes and its willful ignorance.

Paris9748430 said:

TheNatTurner said:

Let's be honest. No one knew who Frank Ocean was, and him coming out helped increase his sales because of the type of fan base he had, it was a great marketing strategy. Let's get real dude was already suspect, he was already feminine, he was an underground artist singing hooks, no other way with the timing of all the gay agendas being pressed for him to come out talking about him some dick - other words not as big a risk as say if an established artist did the same, good job def jam - and the media ran away with it, even calling him a rapper, because no one including journalist in the media really gave a crap about some straight nasal pitchy singing kid from a group of crappy youtube teen sensations,

make him bisexual and bingo

Frankie you on cause the agenda is in full throttle, even to the point if you don't like it you labeled a homophobic, or Target was being labeled as homophobic for not having the album, but Target like fuck a Frankie Ocean and Def Jam we want exclusive shit - It does work that way, and it is working that way for him coming out that he is gay

Frankie Ocean lived a dishonest life, and now wants you to feel sorry for him because he is so confused is he like dick or pussy he wrote some songs about it, called all the computer geeks over made an album, got pasty ass Mayer to noodle, and all of a sudden this cat has the album of the year

shit's an hodgepodge of uneven gay lament stories with Phafake playing parts of all his fav Stevie tracks, not R&B and def not hip hop, casue that shit Earl did would get him 2$ in a hat, that shit Andre did was embarassing sounded like some grade F stankonia track done by Big Boi's baby nephew, and that guitar LOFL man - REALLY (I see why Big Boi don't fuck with that boy no more) and like I said this Frankie cat would get booed on Apollo and prob 2.5 stars on star Search, clowned by Nick Cannon on America's got Talent, wouldn't even make American Idol

Man, besides the homophobia ripping through this post.

When has becoming Bisexual as a black male artist ever been a positive until Frank Ocean?

Hell, just 10 years ago, maybe even 5, if a black artist came out as bisexual let alone gay, his career would be over.

I think if anyone is "confused" it's probably you. This shit reads like something Ted Haggard would type before he gets caught doing meth with a gay male prostitute.

I'm not even a Frank Ocean fan (too old and decrepit to keep up with todays Hip Hop & r&b scene),

but this is hee-larious (and I think I even agree)

So I finally listened to Channel Orange and......I'm sorry guys, but I'm not feeling this and I don't what the big deal is.

I applaud Frank Ocean's bravery in coming out and I wish him nothing but succes in his career.

But i'm not falling for the hype. I don't hear anything extraordinary about this CD and the whole record sounds like it was composed in GarageMusic on somebody's Apple computer, despite the fact that he does play an instrument right? His voice is kind of annoying too.

All I can say, is when Maxwell came back, his songs hooked me in, it was well crafted, well done.

I'm just not drawn in with Frank Ocean's music.

But hey we all have our own opinion and whoever digs it more power to ya and I say enjoy...after all its music.

Spinlight said:

Pr1nceQuik said:

You're missing a few brain cells and a severe lacking in musical taste.

Channel Orange is brilliant.

You're a prick and you can fuck off and die.

I don't like the album because it's bland and nothing that hasn't already been done a million times over. Good to know he already has a stable of dickheaded retards to stan on all the online forums though.

Lol would you look at how mad this freak got.

Spinlight said:

lukaszkiss said:

Might just be too old and still living in the past

I'm 19 so i'm heavily biased

I can't really quantify how fucking stupid your reply is.

I didn't bring up Prince because I seek Prince sounds in everything I check out. Andre 3000 got A LOT of hype for being so Princey. In the other Frank Ocean nutbusting thread, people said "Pilot Jones" sounds like Prince. I disagree w/ both of those sentiments.

And what about Kanye, Shad, and Whiz Khalifa are "still living in the past"?

Stay in your lane, fool.

Great retort.

I don't even know who Frank Ocean is. Haven't had a chance to listen

yet but this thread has turned a few people here into keyboard gangsters.

Rude as fuck and wouldn't dare try that shit face 2 face.

phunkdaddy said:

I don't even know who Frank Ocean is. Haven't had a chance to listen

yet but this thread has turned a few people here into keyboard gangsters.

Rude as fuck and wouldn't dare try that shit face 2 face.

nvm

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smoothcriminal12 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I posted a similar theory when this first started on the Frank Ocean thread in General Discussion. I believe this is all a ploy as well, except I also suspect he is not really sexually attracted to men either. Since it's not the 80s anymore, revealing whatever orientation in "Hip-Hop/R&B" is of no consequence now, so something like this is clearly NOT a disadvantage, and if anything, can aid a person to instant popularity (like Ocean). And if true, then THAT'S "brilliant," 'cause the idea has clearly worked, and he's about to win all types of top charting and unwarranted Grammy awards.

You continue to show a woeful lack of knowledge of the Hip-hop and R&B world, especially by stating "it's not the 80's anymore, so obviously it's of no consequence." This forum sometimes and its willful ignorance.

Every time you respond to my posts now, with either an obtuse attempt at an insult like above, or with a knock-off of one of bboy87's gifs, I immediately think of this:

WaterInYourBath said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

You continue to show a woeful lack of knowledge of the Hip-hop and R&B world, especially by stating "it's not the 80's anymore, so obviously it's of no consequence." This forum sometimes and its willful ignorance.

Every time you respond to my posts now, with either an obtuse attempt at an insult like above, or with a knock-off of one of bboy87's gifs, I immediately think of this:

So what I gather from that video is that....you can't read? Oh okay. Keep being ignorant doe.

That wasn't an insult, it was the truth.

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Oh, and PS, bboy did not invent gifs.

NaughtyKitty said:

Lol @ this thread. Y'all entertain me

It's cracking me up too. It's making some folks damn near rabid though and ready to kill each other up in here! Who knew that Frank Ocean's music could be so divisive?

It's funny I used the word "hype" (and I didn't even mean that) in an early thread about him and a couple of orgers shat on me on some "some dudes like to live in their own world", and now the same people who shat on me for using that word are talking about "too much hype", "overhype", and so on ...

I've listened to the album, it's alright, there are a couple of decent songs on it, maybe 2 or 3 memorable cuts but that's it. It's a nice effort, it's kind of original at times but I don't see what's so brillant about it. To each his own.

smoothcriminal12 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Every time you respond to my posts now, with either an obtuse attempt at an insult like above, or with a knock-off of one of bboy87's gifs, I immediately think of this:

So what I gather from that video is that....you can't read? Oh okay. Keep being ignorant doe.

That wasn't an insult, it was the truth.

[Edited 7/14/12 21:28pm]

No, I was referring to that link in your signature.

And there is no truth in anything you type.

So instead of weakly calling people "ignorant" in this forum because of your lacking acumen, you need to cease salivating over Frank Ocean and treat your enunciation problem, bboy wanna-be.

WaterInYourBath said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

So what I gather from that video is that....you can't read? Oh okay. Keep being ignorant doe.

That wasn't an insult, it was the truth.

[Edited 7/14/12 21:28pm]

No, I was referring to that link in your signature.

And there is no truth in anything you type.

So instead of weakly calling people "ignorant" in this forum because of your lacking acumen, you need to cease salivating over Frank Ocean and treat your enunciation problem, bboy wanna-be.

Hmm.

So what I'm seeing here is that you still skirt the issue of whether or not you are aware of the state of homophobia in the hip-hop world and try to make it about "mumbling" and bboy, who apparently birthed internet gifs.

It's funny that you continue to spout this crackpot theory, yet when someone challenges you you'd rather not address it but resort to talking about things that I do personally. How about we address the effervescent homophobia that is bubbling in your posts? Oh no, let's not address that, let's instead talk about things I do. See, you'd rather come at me personally rather than address me challenging you, when it was you who put out that essay of how Frank Ocean elaborately set up this publicity stunt. You knew that someone would challenge you, yet you still want to avoid it. Your actions speak volumes about the person you are, but it's okay, keep talking about chocolate factories and bboy.

wonder505 said:

So I finally listened to Channel Orange and......I'm sorry guys, but I'm not feeling this and I don't what the big deal is.

I applaud Frank Ocean's bravery in coming out and I wish him nothing but succes in his career.

But i'm not falling for the hype. I don't hear anything extraordinary about this CD and the whole record sounds like it was composed in GarageMusic on somebody's Apple computer, despite the fact that he does play an instrument right? His voice is kind of annoying too.

All I can say, is when Maxwell came back, his songs hooked me in, it was well crafted, well done.

I'm just not drawn in with Frank Ocean's music.

But hey we all have our own opinion and whoever digs it more power to ya and I say enjoy...after all its music.

Well all the hair pulling going on got me to check this thing out for myself because I have never heard of this dude in my life,

The album is very meandering, which is okay if you have a compelling voice but his voice doesn't do it for me.

For those who dig it, that's great but I can't get into it either.

I really dont know what all the fuzz is about this guy. Not feeling it all. His voice and melodies sound always the same. Some beats are okay. The only song that i like a little was like a 2 minute interlude called firtelizer. No it lacks soul and it aint funky. Im not impressed. He's def not a new Prince or Stevie. Dont understand the comparisons anyways. Just the beat of Too High or the guitarintro of WDC is more soulful and funky than all of that Channel Orange album. Okay, his lyrics are good. It just lacks good songwriting and singing.

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http://blogs.sfweekly.com...d_that.php

I HATE this part!

Frank Ocean. Even his name sounds like it was dreamed up, because it was. Ocean is 2012's Clash, its Radiohead, its -- if you insist -- Animal Collective. From his no-name-on-the-cover mystique to the 10-minute opus, pre-career record company troubles and a grassroots indie following, he's an alternative rock star through and through. That's without even mentioning his associates in Odd Future, currently monopolizing rap at least as much as Rick Ross, or his hubris/desire to rewrite Coldplay, MGMT and the Eagles, while interpolating Radiohead -- all "rock" greats. There have always been R&B weirdos, but they've been relegated to the sidelines, or they're already mainstream-identified (Usher might've worked with Diplo but no one's expecting a Kid A from him) or doomed to cultdom within their genre (D'Angelo, Cody ChesnuTT, Raphael Saadiq). But Ocean -- who plays a sold-out show at the Regency Ballroom tonight, July 16 -- is the first purveyor of R&B album-making since Prince (if he even counts) to have an audience of all stripes ready to treat him like a legend.

I might have to swing into Manhattan tomorrow and pick up this CD. I've heard the iTunes snippets and saw the performance on Fallon. He's definitely talented and that is a breath of fresh in this musical landscape of late. From what I've read about the famous blog and the reaction it seems as basic as he made people able to relate to his songs on a deeper level. That doesn't make a song great in a musical sense but it can catapult it to another level for the sentimental factor alone. It's been so long in R&B that a male artist with this much media attention has given his audience something more than hot beats, dance steps and dreams of wealth and sex. I think if Frank Ocean can make you remember a time in your life that you felt the way the song speaks on then he's already ahead of the game.

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cbarnes3121 said:

its amazing u admit u love dick and the world call u a genius his music suck just like drake and all the rest of these lames out there now.im not rallying around him cuz he a dick rider shit im gay and not falling 4 the hype i rather listen 2 elton john

I disagree...I never even heard of him or the gay issue, caught the performance on Jimmy Fallon, and was like, who the fuck is this? Seriously, the way he sang that song was damn near perfection.

So at least with me, there was no hype as I had no idea who he was until I saw him perform. I thought it over, thinking 'was that performance a fluke? Am I just feenin' for some good music?'

I said fuck it, bought his album on iTunes, and I LOVE THAT SHIT. It's nothing like Drake, or "all the rest of these lames"..he quite obviously hears things quite differently than the artists you speak of, his music doesn't reek of anything approaching formulaic drivel; in fact, I'd say what he has done is very adventurous.

So from someone 40+ (but still gets carded), I think this cd is awesome. I don't listen to him and compare him to Prince or anyone else, that's just stupid. I can hear the influence, but he's taken his influence, like Prince, and made the shit his own.

Frank Ocean is a bonafide celebrity now.

Look at him being hounded by paparazzi while on a break in Vancouver: