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Reply #390 posted 02/08/12 5:47pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

If there is a public one (funeral). I will definitely be there to pay homage to this Icon....I hope O"bryan sings at it....

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #391 posted 02/09/12 11:52am

Graycap23

T.C............Don's son talks about Don and mentions a lil story on Madonna.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/showbiz/2012/02/09/sbt-son-soul-train.hln

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Reply #392 posted 02/10/12 10:00am

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O'Bryan was his boy toy. That's no secret. He and O'bryan had a falling out and from what I heard, Don threatend him and blackballed him from the music industry. There maybe some truth to this, as O'Bryan never recorded or has performed ever again. Not even the R&B old school shows. He even sang the theme to Soul Train back in 83. Gotta Give Head and Get Ahead!!

It's unfortunate that in light of the death of an iconic figure in black American culture like Don Cornelius, someone would use this opportunity to slander both him and O'Bryan. Normally, I would not address something like this, but given the circumstances it seems like this is the time to end this.

After the end of O'Bryan's first contract with Capitol (a three-album deal that culminated with the release of 1984's "Be My Lover"), O'Bryan and Cornelius began negotiations with Capitol for a new deal. The negotiations between the parties at times became contentious and dragged on for more than two years. Back then, if an artist not named Michael Jackson or Stevie Wonder went more than a year between albums it was considered a major momentum killer.

Eventually, a new deal was signed and O'Bryan released a fourth album, "Surrender," some two and a half years after "Be My Lover" was released. Also during this time, Capitol was taking more of a hard line approach with some of its R&B acts (Maze featuring Frankie Beverly and Lillo Thomas were shown the door around this time) so "Surrender" received little promotion, which was not a surprise given how negotiations between O'Bryan and Cornelius and Capitol went. Not surprisingly, "Surrender" did not fare well. After two released singles -- "Tenderoni" and "Driving Force" -- Capitol tore up its contract with O'Bryan in 1987.

Between the negotiations with Capitol leaving a bad taste in Cornelius' mouth and the emergence of rap music -- a musical form Cornelius admitted he had problems accepting -- it was around that time Cornelius started thinking the music industry was passing him by. Obviously, he kept running with "Soul Train" until he retired in 1993 but that was more because it was a program he founded and he had employees counting on him for their livelihoods.

As for O'Bryan, he signed with A&M Records in 1988 when John McClain was the head of A&R. But shortly after that, A&M pretty much shook up its R&B roster and McClain was fired in late 1989, so no album materialized.

O'Bryan did have some interest in a couple of other labels (Interscope Records and a small label owned by actor Michael Douglas) in the early '90s, but by this time he had been out of the music eye for quite some time. Technically, it was only a few years since "Surrender," but to the general R&B music fan (even among some of his hardcore fans), the last album that registered was 1984's "Be My Lover."

Basically, O'Bryan left the industry to raise his family (and yes, he is married and has five kids -- including a son, Brandyn Burnette, who is in the music industry, and a daughter, LaRaisha Burnette, who has released an EP and is trying to break into the music industry). In fact, he moved from California years ago to get away from the scene. It wasn't until his children were grown and technology made it easier and more accessible to record that O'Bryan got back into the music scene with 2007's "F1RST."

I know that the truth sometimes is not as fascinating as spreading rumors, but the idea of O'Bryan being gay and he and Cornelius being romantically involved cannot be farther from the truth (especially since O'Bryan was known as a ladies' man during his time as a recording artist). Not to mention it's in poor taste and very inappropriate. We should be celebrating Cornelius' contributions to black popular music and television broadcasting, not discussing unfounded, tasteless rumors.

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clapping Thanks for that MM. It was very informative. I didn't know hardly anything about O'Bryan, yet alone that actor Michael Douglas had a record company O'Bryan was considering signing with..

So apparently O'Bryan suffered the same industry pitfalls most artist suffer. Nice to know that he at least left the industry to focus on family rather than falling prey to drugs or something and its also good to know he passed his love of music onto his kids. Damn, five kids? Wow! Are they all by the same woman? That's just unheard of in this industry.

I agree we should be celebrating Cornelius' constributions. Its one thing to talk mess when people are live but when they have passed on we should try and be more respectful. The memories are all we have left.

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RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer. rose
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Reply #393 posted 02/10/12 3:58pm

Timmy84

Family, friends attend Don Cornelius service

By ANTHONY McCARTNEY, AP Entertainment Writer – 1 hour ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Don Cornelius was cremated at a private service attended by family and family who were led in prayer by the Rev. Jesse Jackson, the "Soul Train" founder's family announced Friday.

Jackson led the gathering in prayer during the service, which was held at the same cemetery where Michael Jackson and other celebrities are interred.

"The Rev. Jackson and my father were very, very close friends and I wouldn't have it any other way," Cornelius' son Tony wrote in a statement.

Cornelius' family is also planning a larger private memorial for next week, during which he will be eulogized by Jesse Jackson.

The popular host killed himself Feb. 1 with a self-inflicted gunshot wound. He had in recent years faced health problems and divorced his wife after a fight with her led him to plead no contest to spousal battery.

Since his death, Cornelius has been honored around the country by fans and celebrities alike. "Soul Train" showcased legendary artists such as Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye and Barry White. It brought the best R&B, soul and hip-hop acts to TV and had teenagers dance to their music.

Cornelius was honored Saturday with public celebrations in Harlem and Chicago, where he founded "Soul Train" in 1970. The show became one of the longest-running syndicated shows in history, introducing audiences to many top music acts and providing a never-before-seen TV platform for black culture.

Anthony McCartney can be reached at http://twitter.com/mccartneyAP.

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Reply #394 posted 02/10/12 4:02pm

Timmy84

Don Cornelius' death officially ruled a suicide
by Associated Press

Coroner’s officials on Tuesday ruled Don Cornelius’ death a suicide, nearly a week after the Soul Train creator and host killed himself with a gunshot to the head.

The agency made the determination after conducting an autopsy on Cornelius’ body Friday. Investigators are still awaiting the results of toxicology tests before issuing a final report.

Police quickly ruled out foul play after responding to Cornelius’ Mulholland Drive home early Wednesday morning. His son had alerted authorities after receiving a call from his father.

Cornelius, 75, started Soul Train in 1970 and it became one of the longest-running syndicated shows in history, introducing audiences to many top music acts and providing a never-before-seen TV platform for black culture.

The popular host was honored Saturday in Harlem with a lively celebration in tribute to Cornelius and the wide-ranging influence of his show.

His son, Tony Cornelius, released a statement last week asking for privacy and thanking fans.

“We thank all the well-wishers and the fans who have supported the Soul Train legacy. Love, Peace and Soul,” the statement read, incorporating his father’s famous sign-off from the show.

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Reply #395 posted 02/10/12 4:12pm

HuMpThAnG

God bless Tony & the family rose

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Reply #396 posted 02/10/12 4:14pm

Timmy84

HuMpThAnG said:

God bless Tony & the family rose

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yeahthat sad

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Reply #397 posted 02/10/12 6:36pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

My prayers are with the the Cornelius family in their time of bereavement....

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #398 posted 02/10/12 8:15pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Don Cornelius Death May Revive ‘Soul Train The Movie’

*For more than a decade, “Soul Train” creator Don Cornelius worked on developing a film based on his influential dance program without much success.

But his death from a self-inflicted gunshot wound Feb. 1 in Los Angeles might jump-start interest in a “Soul Train” movie and other ventures that would exploit the storied brand, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

Producer Darryl Porter (“Dead Presidents”), a longtime Cornelius friend and business associate, says he and Don tried but failed to launch a movie with Universal during the 1990s. As recently as 2009, Warner Bros. showed interest in a project. “He wanted to do a buddy action comedy, like Rush Hour set in the world of Soul Train,” says a Warners source. But that project also stalled. Porter, who would have been a producer on the film, says a second script, which turned the project into a coming-of-age dance movie, “was not the kind of movie Warners was going to make.”

Now, Soul Train Holdings is working with WME to explore ways to grow the brand, including a film, musical and TV show. “Certainly we want to proceed in a way that will highlight the contribution of Don to the creation of the brand and its subsequent impact on American culture,” says Kenard Gibbs, CEO of Soul Train Holdings. One major obstacle to exploiting the Soul Train brand for a film or other venture is securing rights to use the music that filled each episode. Obtaining such clearances can be costly, though Gibbs notes that Soul Train Holdings was able to clear the necessary songs for The Best of Soul Train, a DVD boxed set the company released in 2010.

Porter says that in recent years, Cornelius continued to examine potential business deals — including a Soul Train TV channel and radio station — but was interested only in ventures “he thought reached a certain level of dignity and magnitude.” Tony says his father felt that overall, the franchise’s current owners have “done a great job,” though he adds that for the Soul Train creator, it was “very difficult to part with something that you started and be satisfied all the time.”

A private memorial for Cornelius is planned for Feb. 16 in Los Angeles.

Don may finally get his wish...

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #399 posted 02/11/12 7:06am

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sad

I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #400 posted 02/11/12 3:10pm

MusickMan

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clapping Thanks for that MM. It was very informative. I didn't know hardly anything about O'Bryan, yet alone that actor Michael Douglas had a record company O'Bryan was considering signing with..

So apparently O'Bryan suffered the same industry pitfalls most artist suffer. Nice to know that he at least left the industry to focus on family rather than falling prey to drugs or something and its also good to know he passed his love of music onto his kids. Damn, five kids? Wow! Are they all by the same woman? That's just unheard of in this industry.

I agree we should be celebrating Cornelius' constributions. Its one thing to talk mess when people are live but when they have passed on we should try and be more respectful. The memories are all we have left.

At the end of the day, O'Bryan's tenure ended like a lot of artists' did. The difference between him and some of the late '80s and early '90s artists that immediately followed him -- such as Al B. Sure!, Troop, After 7 and Karyn White (who, BTW, got her start as a background singer in O'Bryan's touring band) -- is that he made one more album than them. Even though the acts I named actually had higher commercial sales peaks, IMO, all of them made only three albums. O'Bryan did make a fourth album, but "Surrender" was hardly noticed for the reasons I named, in addition to being IMO the weakest of O'Bryan's albums.

Keep in mind that O'Bryan's era had even less media coverage and exposure than the aforementioned acts. Then factor in Don Cornelius' tendency not to disclose business deals publicly and O'Bryan leaving the industry, and that was when the "What happened to O'Bryan?" rumors and speculation started.

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Reply #401 posted 02/14/12 2:36pm

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A movie about Don Cornelius life is a great idea. We really need to start honoring these cultural icons on film. Just wondering who will take the torch now.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer. rose
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Reply #402 posted 02/14/12 2:40pm

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So was his funeral yesterday?
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Reply #403 posted 02/14/12 2:51pm

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HotGritz said:

A movie about Don Cornelius life is a great idea. We really need to start honoring these cultural icons on film. Just wondering who will take the torch now.

I always honor the icons, it's just that today's generation that don't give a rat's ass about any of them!

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Reply #404 posted 02/14/12 2:53pm

Timmy84

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So was his funeral yesterday?

I guess so. I know he's supposed to have two. I think the second one was private also.

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Reply #405 posted 02/14/12 2:58pm

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Timmy84 said:



nursev said:


So was his funeral yesterday?

I guess so. I know he's supposed to have two. I think the second one was private also.



Ok-thank you.
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Reply #406 posted 02/16/12 1:10pm

MusickMan

The private service for friends and music industry-related people will be held today at Forest Lawn Cemetery, where Don Cornelius' body was cremated.

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Reply #407 posted 02/17/12 5:40pm

Fantomex50

Timmy84 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

nod Sadly I thought Dick would go b4 Don.. sad

Dick may not have long to live either, you can never guess when someone is gonna go. Apparently the both of them suffered strokes. It's gonna be real sad when Dick finally clocks out. They both brought joy in my childhood.

And Dick kept on hosting Dick Clark's New Years Rocking Eve right up until recently-amazing when you think of it.

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Reply #408 posted 02/17/12 5:47pm

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Timmy84 said:

He and Dick Clark were the original American Idols too before they even thought of that concept.

RIP Don.

The hell they were. That was Ed McMahon that started that dull amateur bullshit with "Star Search", a show I hated lonnnnnnnnng before the "American Idiot" show. lol Don and Dick had stars on their shows and they played jams for the dancers. Total different concept altogether.

The concept of amateur hours, FYI, started with Ted Mack and the radio/TV show The Original Amateur Hour; neither American Idol, America's Got Talent/Britain's Got Talent, Star Search, etc. were first.

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Reply #409 posted 02/17/12 5:49pm

Timmy84

Fantomex50 said:

Timmy84 said:

Dick may not have long to live either, you can never guess when someone is gonna go. Apparently the both of them suffered strokes. It's gonna be real sad when Dick finally clocks out. They both brought joy in my childhood.

And Dick kept on hosting Dick Clark's New Years Rocking Eve right up until recently-amazing when you think of it.

That is amazing...

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Reply #410 posted 02/18/12 4:47pm

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Hundreds honor 'Soul Train' creator Don Cornelius

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Through music, scripture and song, Don Cornelius was remembered Thursday as the man who elevated black culture and entertainment with his "Soul Train," demolishing barriers of race and culture, and changing American history.

Hundreds of family, friends, entertainers, sports figures and even some former "Soul Train" dancers gathered to honor Cornelius' legacy and recall their recollections of the baritone-voiced host and entrepreneur. The nearly three-hour memorial service featured plenty of laughter and music, including a rousing performance of "Love's In Need of Love" by Stevie Wonder.

Civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson delivered a eulogy that centered on how Cornelius' creation created a platform for black music and culture that hadn't been seen on television when "Soul Train" debuted in 1970. "Soul Train" was broadcast nationally from 1971 to 2006 and became one of television's longest running syndicated shows. He gave up hosting duties in 1993.

"Don, we say thanks for being conductor of the 'Soul Train' and laying the tracks," Jackson said. "We thank you because we needed you so badly and you helped us so much."

Several speakers noted that Cornelius didn't just give a platform to performers such as Wonder, Aretha Franklin and the Jackson 5, but he also gave opportunities to black cameramen and demonstrated that television programmingaimed at black audiences was viable.

At several points during the service, photos of Cornelius on the show's set were displayed for the gathering, which ended with clips of the popular host dancing and delivering his signature sign-off, "Love, Peace and Soul!!!"

Smokey Robinson joked that Cornelius would often ask guests questions that veered away from their music, such as what they were driving and when they'd last eaten at a particular restaurant.

"I'm really happy to be here because Don was my brother and I am celebrating his life," a smiling Robinson said. "I don't what the rest of you are doing."

Remaining upbeat, Robinson told the crowd, "He started a platform for black people that before that time had not been seen. It had been heard, but it had not been seen."

Pastor Donnie McClurkin, who led the service, noted that his mother didn't allow her children to listen to popular music. But when she went grocery shopping on Saturdays, he and his siblings caught up on all the latest dance moves and music by watching "Soul Train."

Cornelius was born in September 1936 in Chicago, served as a Marine in Korea and worked various jobs before getting into broadcasting in the mid-1960s.

He was inducted into the Broadcasting and Cable Hall of Fame in 1995 and has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, but his greatest legacy was the impact of his show, which not only brought black culture, but also black advertisers to nationwide audiences. His show came long before there were any networks devoted to television programming for black audiences, or black actors in prominent roles on network shows — key cultural barriers that Cornelius helped break down.

Cornelius' granddaughter Christina said that to the world, her grandfather was a visionary and trailblazer.

"He was all those things. But to me he was just grandpa," she said, breaking down. "My smooth voiced, loving grandpa."

Several speakers, including Cornelius' son Tony, spoke of continuing Cornelius' legacy.

Earvin "Magic" Johnson recalled meeting Cornelius in the early 1980s after he started playing with the Los Angeles Lakers.

"Shoot, I come around the corner and I see that big 'fro, I already knew who it was," Johnson said as the crowd laughed, "but I was scared because I always wanted to meet him."

On Thursday, Johnson said he was committed to helping keep the "Soul Train" going.

"Tony, it's our job to keep the legacy going," Johnson said. "The brand that your father has created will last a lifetime."

Several speakers also offered condolences to the family of Whitney Houston, who appeared on Cornelius' show and died unexpectedly Saturday at age 48.

Wonder mused that Cornelius would be pleased to have Houston join him and other musicians in heaven.

"I can only hope we continue to keep this man's life and legacy alive," Wonder said.

Cornelius, 75, died Feb. 1 from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, and Jackson urged people not to judge him. "We reveal our successes to the world but we conceal our pain," he said.

Rather, Jackson said, the public and those who knew Cornelius well should remember what Cornelius built with "Soul Train" and what it meant to the world.

"It brought joy. It brought pride. It brought talent. It brought hope. It brought opportunity. It blazed trails. It reconciled racism," he said. "Tell them what you know, not what you imagine."

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So Stevie Wonder and Jesse Jackson were at Don Conrnelius's memorial on Thursday, then at Whitney Houston's Home Going service on Saturday. sad

[Edited 2/18/12 16:49pm]

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Reply #411 posted 02/18/12 4:50pm

Timmy84

NaughtyKitty said:

Hundreds honor 'Soul Train' creator Don Cornelius

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Through music, scripture and song, Don Cornelius was remembered Thursday as the man who elevated black culture and entertainment with his "Soul Train," demolishing barriers of race and culture, and changing American history.

Hundreds of family, friends, entertainers, sports figures and even some former "Soul Train" dancers gathered to honor Cornelius' legacy and recall their recollections of the baritone-voiced host and entrepreneur. The nearly three-hour memorial service featured plenty of laughter and music, including a rousing performance of "Love's In Need of Love" by Stevie Wonder.

Civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson delivered a eulogy that centered on how Cornelius' creation created a platform for black music and culture that hadn't been seen on television when "Soul Train" debuted in 1970. "Soul Train" was broadcast nationally from 1971 to 2006 and became one of television's longest running syndicated shows. He gave up hosting duties in 1993.

"Don, we say thanks for being conductor of the 'Soul Train' and laying the tracks," Jackson said. "We thank you because we needed you so badly and you helped us so much."

Several speakers noted that Cornelius didn't just give a platform to performers such as Wonder, Aretha Franklin and the Jackson 5, but he also gave opportunities to black cameramen and demonstrated that television programmingaimed at black audiences was viable.

At several points during the service, photos of Cornelius on the show's set were displayed for the gathering, which ended with clips of the popular host dancing and delivering his signature sign-off, "Love, Peace and Soul!!!"

Smokey Robinson joked that Cornelius would often ask guests questions that veered away from their music, such as what they were driving and when they'd last eaten at a particular restaurant.

"I'm really happy to be here because Don was my brother and I am celebrating his life," a smiling Robinson said. "I don't what the rest of you are doing."

Remaining upbeat, Robinson told the crowd, "He started a platform for black people that before that time had not been seen. It had been heard, but it had not been seen."

Pastor Donnie McClurkin, who led the service, noted that his mother didn't allow her children to listen to popular music. But when she went grocery shopping on Saturdays, he and his siblings caught up on all the latest dance moves and music by watching "Soul Train."

Cornelius was born in September 1936 in Chicago, served as a Marine in Korea and worked various jobs before getting into broadcasting in the mid-1960s.

He was inducted into the Broadcasting and Cable Hall of Fame in 1995 and has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, but his greatest legacy was the impact of his show, which not only brought black culture, but also black advertisers to nationwide audiences. His show came long before there were any networks devoted to television programming for black audiences, or black actors in prominent roles on network shows — key cultural barriers that Cornelius helped break down.

Cornelius' granddaughter Christina said that to the world, her grandfather was a visionary and trailblazer.

"He was all those things. But to me he was just grandpa," she said, breaking down. "My smooth voiced, loving grandpa."

Several speakers, including Cornelius' son Tony, spoke of continuing Cornelius' legacy.

Earvin "Magic" Johnson recalled meeting Cornelius in the early 1980s after he started playing with the Los Angeles Lakers.

"Shoot, I come around the corner and I see that big 'fro, I already knew who it was," Johnson said as the crowd laughed, "but I was scared because I always wanted to meet him."

On Thursday, Johnson said he was committed to helping keep the "Soul Train" going.

"Tony, it's our job to keep the legacy going," Johnson said. "The brand that your father has created will last a lifetime."

Several speakers also offered condolences to the family of Whitney Houston, who appeared on Cornelius' show and died unexpectedly Saturday at age 48.

Wonder mused that Cornelius would be pleased to have Houston join him and other musicians in heaven.

"I can only hope we continue to keep this man's life and legacy alive," Wonder said.

Cornelius, 75, died Feb. 1 from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, and Jackson urged people not to judge him. "We reveal our successes to the world but we conceal our pain," he said.

Rather, Jackson said, the public and those who knew Cornelius well should remember what Cornelius built with "Soul Train" and what it meant to the world.

"It brought joy. It brought pride. It brought talent. It brought hope. It brought opportunity. It blazed trails. It reconciled racism," he said. "Tell them what you know, not what you imagine."

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So Stevie Wonder and Jesse Jackson were at Don Conrnelius's memorial on Thursday, then at Whitney Houston's Home Going service on Saturday. sad

[Edited 2/18/12 16:49pm]

For someone who has been blind all his life, Stevie has to deal with a lot of pain.

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Reply #412 posted 02/18/12 9:49pm

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Reply #413 posted 02/19/12 7:08pm

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Timmy84 said:

For someone who has been blind all his life, Stevie has to deal with a lot of pain.

I thought the same thing. It is a sign of growing old when your invites to funerals equal the same number of invites for parties. This past 6 months we have seen several musical talents/innovators leave this world starting with Heavy D....

pray

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