Surprised Stevie hasn't said anything yet.

Timmy84 said:

Surprised Stevie hasn't said anything yet.

he did!

click here: Stevie Wonder Talks About Don Cornelius

free2bfreeda said:

Timmy84 said:

Surprised Stevie hasn't said anything yet.

he did!

click here: Stevie Wonder Talks About Don Cornelius

You got video embedding problems?

Timmy84 said:

free2bfreeda said:

he did!

click here: Stevie Wonder Talks About Don Cornelius

You got video embedding problems?

no, i've got no embedding problems. all you have to do is click on the lined "click here" to listen to the video. when listening is done, just click on the arrow in the upper left corner to return to same prince.org thread. I add the video in the manner to save space.

any problem?

free2bfreeda said:

Timmy84 said:

You got video embedding problems?

no, i've got no embedding problems. all you have to do is click on the lined "click here" to listen to the video. when listening is done, just click on the arrow in the upper left corner to return to same prince.org thread. I add the video in the manner to save space.

any problem?

Huh, who said I had a problem? I just thought because people here talk about they can't embed anything that they usually just post the link but cool Stevie said anything.

Timmy84 said:

free2bfreeda said:

no, i've got no embedding problems. all you have to do is click on the lined "click here" to listen to the video. when listening is done, just click on the arrow in the upper left corner to return to same prince.org thread. I add the video in the manner to save space.

any problem?

Huh, who said I had a problem? I just thought because people here talk about they can't embed anything that they usually just post the link but cool Stevie said anything.

did not mean 2b short w/u Timmy. Just feeling sad. Did you listen to Stevie? I'll be glad when I can stop feeling sad re: Mr. Cornelius.

free2bfreeda said:

Timmy84 said:

Huh, who said I had a problem? I just thought because people here talk about they can't embed anything that they usually just post the link but cool Stevie said anything.

did not mean 2b short w/u Timmy. Just feeling sad. Did you listen to Stevie? I'll be glad when I can stop feeling sad re: Mr. Cornelius.

I don't know why but I hate having to go to hear things like this. Just makes me sad. So no. But yeah big up to Stevie anyway. I heard Gladys Knight sounded distraught when she talked about Don so I didn't wanna hear that either.

[Edited 2/6/12 22:11pm]

Timmy84 said:

free2bfreeda said:

did not mean 2b short w/u Timmy. Just feeling sad. Did you listen to Stevie? I'll be glad when I can stop feeling sad re: Mr. Cornelius.

I don't know why but I hate having to go to hear things like this. Just makes me sad. So no. But yeah big up to Stevie anyway. I heard Gladys Knight sounded distraught when she talked about Don so I didn't wanna hear that either.

[Edited 2/6/12 22:11pm]

s to you timmy84

i know that after the storms and tears of sadness comes the sunshine and rainbow of celebration. i also know soon i will do my new orleans metamorphoses and start celebrating Mr. Cornelius life.

I feel he would not want a lot of grief attached to his memory.

free2bfreeda said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't know why but I hate having to go to hear things like this. Just makes me sad. So no. But yeah big up to Stevie anyway. I heard Gladys Knight sounded distraught when she talked about Don so I didn't wanna hear that either.

[Edited 2/6/12 22:11pm]

s to you timmy84

i know that after the storms and tears of sadness comes the sunshine and rainbow of celebration. i also know soon i will do my new orleans metamorphoses and start celebrating Mr. Cornelius life.

I feel he would not want a lot of grief attached to his memory.

Nah, I doubt he want anyone grieving. His life should be celebrated at the funeral. I heard they may do the Soul Train line at his funeral too. May be just a rumor but that would be a great send off.

Timmy84 said:

free2bfreeda said:

s to you timmy84

i know that after the storms and tears of sadness comes the sunshine and rainbow of celebration. i also know soon i will do my new orleans metamorphoses and start celebrating Mr. Cornelius life.

I feel he would not want a lot of grief attached to his memory.

Nah, I doubt he want anyone grieving. His life should be celebrated at the funeral. I heard they may do the Soul Train line at his funeral too. May be just a rumor but that would be a great send off.

prodigalfan said:

Timmy84 said:

Nah, I doubt he want anyone grieving. His life should be celebrated at the funeral. I heard they may do the Soul Train line at his funeral too. May be just a rumor but that would be a great send off.

[APOLOGIES FOR THE BLOCK TEXT. I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS HAPPENS.] And you know, I don't know much about Mr. Cornelius in his later years, but during the ST's heyday... I always go this impression that he was like "Uncle Don" and his attitude was "Y'all let these young folks have some fun and be young." You know? He seemed to enjoy being around youth and their spirit and he left young people express themselves before it was the "in" thing to do. Remember, he started out in the early 70s when mainstream (including black American mainstream) was trying to squelch youthful independence and creative expression. So I always will have fond memories of ST and Don Cornelius as a place for the young to have a safe and fun place to get down.

Looking back, it's remarkable Don did what he did. He brought people together on the power of dancing.

G3000 said:

O'Bryan was his boy toy. That's no secret. He and O'bryan had a falling out and from what I heard, Don threatend him and blackballed him from the music industry. There maybe some truth to this, as O'Bryan never recorded or has performed ever again. Not even the R&B old school shows. He even sang the theme to Soul Train back in 83. Gotta Give Head and Get Ahead!!

It's unfortunate that in light of the death of an iconic figure in black American culture like Don Cornelius, someone would use this opportunity to slander both him and O'Bryan. Normally, I would not address something like this, but given the circumstances it seems like this is the time to end this.

After the end of O'Bryan's first contract with Capitol (a three-album deal that culminated with the release of 1984's "Be My Lover"), O'Bryan and Cornelius began negotiations with Capitol for a new deal. The negotiations between the parties at times became contentious and dragged on for more than two years. Back then, if an artist not named Michael Jackson or Stevie Wonder went more than a year between albums it was considered a major momentum killer.

Eventually, a new deal was signed and O'Bryan released a fourth album, "Surrender," some two and a half years after "Be My Lover" was released. Also during this time, Capitol was taking more of a hard line approach with some of its R&B acts (Maze featuring Frankie Beverly and Lillo Thomas were shown the door around this time) so "Surrender" received little promotion, which was not a surprise given how negotiations between O'Bryan and Cornelius and Capitol went. Not surprisingly, "Surrender" did not fare well. After two released singles -- "Tenderoni" and "Driving Force" -- Capitol tore up its contract with O'Bryan in 1987.

Between the negotiations with Capitol leaving a bad taste in Cornelius' mouth and the emergence of rap music -- a musical form Cornelius admitted he had problems accepting -- it was around that time Cornelius started thinking the music industry was passing him by. Obviously, he kept running with "Soul Train" until he retired in 1993 but that was more because it was a program he founded and he had employees counting on him for their livelihoods.

As for O'Bryan, he signed with A&M Records in 1988 when John McClain was the head of A&R. But shortly after that, A&M pretty much shook up its R&B roster and McClain was fired in late 1989, so no album materialized.

O'Bryan did have some interest in a couple of other labels (Interscope Records and a small label owned by actor Michael Douglas) in the early '90s, but by this time he had been out of the music eye for quite some time. Technically, it was only a few years since "Surrender," but to the general R&B music fan (even among some of his hardcore fans), the last album that registered was 1984's "Be My Lover."

Basically, O'Bryan left the industry to raise his family (and yes, he is married and has five kids -- including a son, Brandyn Burnette, who is in the music industry, and a daughter, LaRaisha Burnette, who has released an EP and is trying to break into the music industry). In fact, he moved from California years ago to get away from the scene. It wasn't until his children were grown and technology made it easier and more accessible to record that O'Bryan got back into the music scene with 2007's "F1RST."

I know that the truth sometimes is not as fascinating as spreading rumors, but the idea of O'Bryan being gay and he and Cornelius being romantically involved cannot be farther from the truth (especially since O'Bryan was known as a ladies' man during his time as a recording artist). Not to mention it's in poor taste and very inappropriate. We should be celebrating Cornelius' contributions to black popular music and television broadcasting, not discussing unfounded, tasteless rumors.

[Edited 7/11/13 9:28am]

HuMpThAnG said:

While on my way home tonight, listening to the radio, Dj start playin Soul Train's A Comin'

Talkin over the tune, he mentions that O'Bryan was Don's nephew

First time ever hearing that

Don Cornelius and O'Bryan were not related.

I don't know if this will post, but O'Bryan did an interview Saturday on Jay King's online network, discussing his career and working with Cornelius:

http://www.blogtalkradio....soul-train

[Edited 2/7/12 19:20pm]

^^

Wow, thanks for the info. I have read this rumor several times and was surprised to hear this and was somewhat skeptical but who know about these hollywood rumors.

It is a nice gesture to address these rumors since Cornelius is no longer here to do so himself.

That clears EVERYTHING up. Thanks Musick. I was starting not to believe the stories either about Don and O'Bryan. O'Bryan had nothing but kind words to say about Don too following his passing.

Timmy84 said:

That clears EVERYTHING up. Thanks Musick. I was starting not to believe the stories either about Don and O'Bryan. O'Bryan had nothing but kind words to say about Don too following his passing.

No problem. It's time these rumors ended, one way or another.

[Edited 2/7/12 17:32pm]

MusickMan said:

Timmy84 said:

That clears EVERYTHING up. Thanks Musick. I was starting not to believe the stories either about Don and O'Bryan. O'Bryan had nothing but kind words to say about Don too following his passing.

No problem. It's time these rumors ended, one way or another.

[Edited 2/7/12 17:32pm]

And as much as Don flirted with the female guests

MusickMan said:

G3000 said:

O'Bryan was his boy toy. That's no secret. He and O'bryan had a falling out and from what I heard, Don threatend him and blackballed him from the music industry. There maybe some truth to this, as O'Bryan never recorded or has performed ever again. Not even the R&B old school shows. He even sang the theme to Soul Train back in 83. Gotta Give Head and Get Ahead!!

It's unfortunate that in light of the death of an iconic figure in black American culture like Don Cornelius, someone would use this opportunity to slander both him and O'Bryan. Normally, I would not address something like this, but given the circumstances it seems like this is the time to end this.

After the end of O'Bryan's first contract with Capitol (a three-album deal that culminated with the release of 1984's "Be My Lover"), O'Bryan and Cornelius began negotiations with Capitol for a new deal. The negotiations between the parties at times became contentious and dragged on for more than two years. Back then, if an artist not named Michael Jackson or Stevie Wonder went more than a year between albums it was considered a major momentum killer.

Eventually, a new deal was signed and O'Bryan released a fourth album, "Surrender," some two and a half years after "Be My Lover" was released. Also during this time, Capitol was taking more of a hard line approach with some of its R&B acts (Maze featuring Frankie Beverly and Lillo Thomas were shown the door around this time) so "Surrender" received little promotion, which was not a surprise given how negotiations between O'Bryan and Cornelius and Capitol went. Not surprisingly, "Surrender" did not fare well. After two released singles -- "Tenderoni" and "Driving Force" -- Capitol tore up its contract with O'Bryan in 1987.

Between the negotiations with Capitol leaving a bad taste in Cornelius' mouth and the emergence of rap music -- a musical form Cornelius admitted he had problems accepting -- it was around that time Cornelius started thinking the music industry was passing him by. Obviously, he kept running with "Soul Train" until he retired in 1993 but that was more because it was a program he founded and he had employees counting on him for their livelihoods.

As for O'Bryan, he signed with A&M Records in 1988 when John McClain was the head of A&R. But shortly after that, A&M pretty much shook up its R&B roster and McClain was fired in late 1989, so no album materialized.

O'Bryan did have some interest in a couple of other labels (Interscope Records and a small label owned by actor Michael Douglas) in the early '90s, but by this time he had been out of the music eye for quite some time. Technically, it was only a few years since "Surrender," but to the general R&B music fan (even among some of his hardcore fans), the last album that registered was 1984's "Be My Lover."

Basically, O'Bryan left the industry to raise his family (and yes, he is married and has five kids -- including a son, Brandyn Burnette, who is the music industry, and a daughter, LaRaisha Burnette, who has released an EP and is trying to break into the music industry). In fact, he moved from California years ago to get away from the scene. It wasn't until his children were grown and technology made it easier and more accessible to record that O'Bryan got back into the music scene with 2007's "F1RST."

I know that the truth sometimes is not as fascinating as spreading rumors, but the idea of O'Bryan being gay and he and Cornelius being romantically involved cannot be farther from the truth (especially since O'Bryan was known as a ladies' man during his time as a recording artist). Not to mention it's in poor taste and very inappropriate. We should be celebrating Cornelius' contributions to black popular music and television broadcasting, not discussing unfounded, tasteless rumors.

[Edited 2/7/12 17:44pm]

Thx for clearing up all the nasty rumors. Some in this thread said some very horrible things about Don sexuality concerning O'Bryan, which had absolutely nothing to do with his legacy. I said it earlier in this thread about it. But it continued. The interview cleared up a lot. Even though it was like pulling teeth to get anything out of O'Bryan in the beginning of the interview. He is not a good interviewer. It should be an Unsung on O'Bryan. But thx again for posting the interview much appreciated....

[Edited 2/7/12 18:37pm]

In my opinion, O'Bryan was not as much of the issue as Jay King (who is not known to be the most gracious and diplomatic of people) and the mode of questioning he did. O'Bryan does have a tendency to bounce all over the place mentally, but Jay's rapid-fire questions about O'Bryan's original contract he signed with Don Cornelius and the occasional boisterous interruptions did not help.

Also, you have to keep in mind that O'Bryan did this interview three days after Cornelius' death -- it's a little space from the shock of the news, but it's still a fresh wound. Not to mention O'Bryan has not done a ton of interviews over the years, so he naturally is going to be a little rusty.

Otherwise, glad to be of service.

[Edited 2/7/12 19:06pm]

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HuMpThAnG said:

MusickMan said:

No problem. It's time these rumors ended, one way or another.

[Edited 2/7/12 17:32pm]

And as much as Don flirted with the female guests

RIGHT!

This is so very sad. Soul Train was a ritual on Saturdays. Everyone I know watched. Don't disturb me before Soul Train, or during Soul Train. That was a given. We'd talk about who appeared on the show all week at school, and discuss the new dances. We'd talk about who was on the stage, who wore what, who came down the Soul Train line, all of that. It's so heartbreaking that it ended this way. The show gave so much exposure to the artists and helped so many people. I'm going to miss Don Cornelius and his debonair swag, deep voice, & fluffy afro. The other shows just weren't the same. My parents have friends who performed their songs the show. I have older family members who danced on the show, they would teach me the steps. Some are no longer here (RIP). I have friends who danced on the show in it's later years. One person I know got a commercial from dancing on the show, & it used to air on Saturdays during ST. Like I said the show helped a LOT of people. I got to attend the Soul Train Awards when it was held at The Shrine, and I will never forget it. I say thank you for all of the experiences, memories, laughter, & entertainment.

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nursev said:

No funeral yet?

A funeral date is set for the 13th.

Timmy84 said:

nursev said:

Timmy84 said:

A funeral date is set for the 13th.

Oh okay-thank you.

NP, it's unclear if they're gonna have a public viewing or just a private funeral.

Timmy84 said:

nursev said:

Oh okay-thank you.

NP, it's unclear if they're gonna have a public viewing or just a private funeral.

I seriously doubt there'd be a public viewing (...just my guess).

.

[Edited 2/8/12 14:13pm]

PDogz said:

Timmy84 said:

NP, it's unclear if they're gonna have a public viewing or just a private funeral.

I seriously doubt there'd be a public viewing (...just my guess).

The Cornelius family would probably want it to be private anyways.