Will needs to cut it the fuck out!

Talking about he'll only release them if Mother asks him to. She's not about to beg him for 3 songs he did with MJ while Mother herself probably has WAY MORE than that sitting on shelves. The nerve of him...Again, didn't Will and MJ explain that Will does NOT have the vocals from the records (to prevent leaks)?

ViintageJunkiie said:

Will needs to cut it the fuck out!

Talking about he'll only release them if Mother asks him to. She's not about to beg him for 3 songs he did with MJ while Mother herself probably has WAY MORE than that sitting on shelves. The nerve of him...Again, didn't Will and MJ explain that Will does NOT have the vocals from the records (to prevent leaks)?

I agree!!! Will is showing his ass. Pompous ass ho.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Will needs to cut it the fuck out!

Talking about he'll only release them if Mother asks him to. She's not about to beg him for 3 songs he did with MJ while Mother herself probably has WAY MORE than that sitting on shelves. The nerve of him...Again, didn't Will and MJ explain that Will does NOT have the vocals from the records (to prevent leaks)?

He's playing games because he knows what he has in his possession and the demand it creates. Will has contradicted himself numerous times. He said at one point the music could be on a BEP album. Just look up interviews on Youtube. The contradiction is there.

As for who has the vocals and music, who knows. That's another matter that has been contradicted. What I have gathered is that 3 songs are completed and almost a 4th.

So whether or not you are a fan of Will.I.Am's music, these need to be released. I believe these songs are the ones that would've been on a new studio album.

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Will needs to cut it the fuck out!

Talking about he'll only release them if Mother asks him to. She's not about to beg him for 3 songs he did with MJ while Mother herself probably has WAY MORE than that sitting on shelves. The nerve of him...Again, didn't Will and MJ explain that Will does NOT have the vocals from the records (to prevent leaks)?

I agree!!! Will is showing his ass. Pompous ass ho.

That really upsets me that he pretty much said "Only if Mother comes to ask" his ass is trying so hard to feel "needed" in the Estates planning.

Derek1984 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Will needs to cut it the fuck out!

Talking about he'll only release them if Mother asks him to. She's not about to beg him for 3 songs he did with MJ while Mother herself probably has WAY MORE than that sitting on shelves. The nerve of him...Again, didn't Will and MJ explain that Will does NOT have the vocals from the records (to prevent leaks)?

He's playing games because he knows what he has in his possession and the demand it creates. Will has contradicted himself numerous times. He said at one point the music could be on a BEP album. Just look up interviews on Youtube. The contradiction is there.

As for who has the vocals and music, who knows. That's another matter that has been contradicted. What I have gathered is that 3 songs are completed and almost a 4th.

So whether or not you are a fan of Will.I.Am's music, these need to be released. I believe these songs are the ones that would've been on a new studio album.

Will.i.am just wants to feel like he belongs in the musical drama with Michael. If he doesn't want to release the music, then just say so. If that's the case, the Estate can EASILY have Mother call Will.i.am and get the tracks. He made it too easy...

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

I agree!!! Will is showing his ass. Pompous ass ho.

That really upsets me that he pretty much said "Only if Mother comes to ask" his ass is trying so hard to feel "needed" in the Estates planning.

Like Katherine would give him the time of day. If I was Katherine, I'd be like "might as well let that shit rot, you're not going to be on my son's album. "

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

That really upsets me that he pretty much said "Only if Mother comes to ask" his ass is trying so hard to feel "needed" in the Estates planning.

Like Katherine would give him the time of day. If I was Katherine, I'd be like "might as well let that shit rot, you're not going to be on my son's album. "

Wasn't BEP supposed to perform at the Tribute concert but then bailed? I forget...

ViintageJunkiie said:

Derek1984 said:

He's playing games because he knows what he has in his possession and the demand it creates. Will has contradicted himself numerous times. He said at one point the music could be on a BEP album. Just look up interviews on Youtube. The contradiction is there.

As for who has the vocals and music, who knows. That's another matter that has been contradicted. What I have gathered is that 3 songs are completed and almost a 4th.

So whether or not you are a fan of Will.I.Am's music, these need to be released. I believe these songs are the ones that would've been on a new studio album.

Will.i.am just wants to feel like he belongs in the musical drama with Michael. If he doesn't want to release the music, then just say so. If that's the case, the Estate can EASILY have Mother call Will.i.am and get the tracks. He made it too easy...

I honestly am happy to hear that Will have decided to release the tracks (only if Katherine asks him to, but like you said, he made it too easy so it will likely to happen in the near future right?)

I get how Will is contradicting himself but I don't blame him too much Yeah sure, when he criticized Akon for working on 'Michael' album, it made me really respect Will but at the same time I was disappointed at the fact that I won't be able to hear what MJ was working on when he was alive.

How is he supposed to turn Katherine down if she asks him to release those tracks? I don't know if the family thinks keeping MJ's legacy alive is as important as earning lots of money, but either way, it doesn't matter. Really, who's to say what's the right thing to do at this point?

I'm curious about the new sound, and I never consider any posthumous release as 100% Michael Jackson's work anyway, so there's no way the new CD can possibly tarnish his legacy, at least to me. BRING ON THE NEW TRACKS!!!!!

I'd be fine without any Will, Akon music, just Michael...

Timmy84 said:

I'd be fine without any Will, Akon music, just Michael...

Hey come on...I know so many fans were excited to hear MJ's collaboration with people like Barry Gibb, just because he's a legend icon brilliant musician an icon who's also a true legend

When MJ first worked with Teddy, I believe 23 year old Riley wasn't quite known as one of the greatest producers. I think most of the time, MJ has been able to get the best out of many mediocre artists/producers, that I don't think he always had to work with vintage "legends". Plus, I much prefer "Dangerous" album to his collaboration with Quincy such as "Bad", and 'Hold My Hand' to 'Whatever happens'...So I know the fresh sound can be good...or disappointing, who knows..but if MJ decided to experiment new sounds with whoever he thought was interesting at that point, I'm cool with that..

Though I do hope they also leak the original pure MJ demo as well, if exists..

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Emancipation89 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Will.i.am just wants to feel like he belongs in the musical drama with Michael. If he doesn't want to release the music, then just say so. If that's the case, the Estate can EASILY have Mother call Will.i.am and get the tracks. He made it too easy...

I honestly am happy to hear that Will have decided to release the tracks (only if Katherine asks him to, but like you said, he made it too easy so it will likely to happen in the near future right?)

I get how Will is contradicting himself but I don't blame him too much Yeah sure, when he criticized Akon for working on 'Michael' album, it made me really respect Will but at the same time I was disappointed at the fact that I won't be able to hear what MJ was working on when he was alive.

How is he supposed to turn Katherine down if she asks him to release those tracks? I don't know if the family thinks keeping MJ's legacy alive is as important as earning lots of money, but either way, it doesn't matter. Really, who's to say what's the right thing to do at this point?

I'm curious about the new sound, and I never consider any posthumous release as 100% Michael Jackson's work anyway, so there's no way the new CD can possibly tarnish his legacy, at least to me. BRING ON THE NEW TRACKS!!!!!

Will shouldn't have even tried to criticize Akon for working on "Michael" because MJ himself approved of "Hold My Hand" and even said he wanted that to be the first single to be released from the album he was working on. MJ never said anything positive (that we've heard) about Will.i.am's records, which is why Will probably felt the need to lash out.

Just bring on the music

Emancipation89 said:

Timmy84 said:

I'd be fine without any Will, Akon music, just Michael...

Hey come on...I know so many fans were excited to hear MJ's collaboration with people like Barry Gibb, just because he's a legend icon brilliant musician an icon who's also a true legend

When MJ first worked with Teddy, I believe 23 year old Riley wasn't quite known as one of the greatest producers. I think most of the time, MJ has been able to get the best out of many mediocre artists/producers, that I don't think he always had to work with vintage "legends". Plus, I much prefer "Dangerous" album to his collaboration with Quincy such as "Bad", and 'Hold My Hand' to 'Whatever happens'...So I know the fresh sound can be good...or disappointing, who knows..but if MJ decided to experiment new sounds with whoever he thought was interesting at that point, I'm cool with that..

Though I do hope they also leak the original pure MJ demo as well, if exists..

[Edited 1/6/12 13:39pm]

Barry's one thing, Teddy's another. And he disappointed me so...

NaughtyKitty said:

Upset French fans sue Michael Jackson doctor

RENNES - French fans of Michael Jackson are suing the late pop star's doctor for "emotional damage" they suffered over his death, their lawyer said Friday.

The case against Conrad Murray, who was jailed in November over the star's 2009 death, is due to be heard in the city of Orleans on April 11, lawyer Emmanuel Ludot said.

"It's similar to losing a childhood friend in a traffic accident. Because this death affects you, you have the possibility to file a suit and seek compensation," Ludot said.

The lawyer is acting for around 100 fans who are members of an association that calls itself the "Michael Jackson Community".

He said that while each fan could be awarded damages of up to 10,000 euros (S$16,556), they were seeking only a symbolic euro.

Jackson, aged 50 at the time of his death, had hired Murray at a salary of US$150,000 (S$194,000) a month to look after him as he rehearsed and embarked on a series of "This is It" planned comeback shows in London.

The star died on June 25, 2009 at his Los Angeles home of an overdose of anaesthetic propofol, taken to help him battle insomnia.

Murray was found guilty in November of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to the maximum four years in prison.

http://news.asiaone.com/N...20369.html

Idk about this. I don't need money from this guy....money ain't gonna bring Michael back.

But emotional damage really gets you nothing. I've never seen anyone get awarded money for emotional damage. But hey, I understand where they're coming from...

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Upset French fans sue Michael Jackson doctor

RENNES - French fans of Michael Jackson are suing the late pop star's doctor for "emotional damage" they suffered over his death, their lawyer said Friday.

The case against Conrad Murray, who was jailed in November over the star's 2009 death, is due to be heard in the city of Orleans on April 11, lawyer Emmanuel Ludot said.

"It's similar to losing a childhood friend in a traffic accident. Because this death affects you, you have the possibility to file a suit and seek compensation," Ludot said.

The lawyer is acting for around 100 fans who are members of an association that calls itself the "Michael Jackson Community".

He said that while each fan could be awarded damages of up to 10,000 euros (S$16,556), they were seeking only a symbolic euro.

Jackson, aged 50 at the time of his death, had hired Murray at a salary of US$150,000 (S$194,000) a month to look after him as he rehearsed and embarked on a series of "This is It" planned comeback shows in London.

The star died on June 25, 2009 at his Los Angeles home of an overdose of anaesthetic propofol, taken to help him battle insomnia.

Murray was found guilty in November of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to the maximum four years in prison.

http://news.asiaone.com/N...20369.html

Idk about this. I don't need money from this guy....money ain't gonna bring Michael back.

But emotional damage really gets you nothing. I've never seen anyone get awarded money for emotional damage. But hey, I understand where they're coming from...

It's absolutely pathetic. I've read about the people who are doing it and they're the "bat shit crazy ones in the family"

they're not getting money, they want "symbolic"

basically, they want attention

^^ And us fans wonder why people think of us as crazies, lol.

Swa said:

^^ And us fans wonder why people think of us as crazies, lol.

RIGHT!

The Billboard 200:

Adele's "21" album returned to No. 1 on the Billboard 200 for a staggering 14th week , selling 144,000 (down 64%), bumping former champ Michael Buble and his "Christmas" set way down to No. 24 (21,000; down 96%). Meanwhile, every non-debuting album in the top 25 all declined in sales -- as expected following the busy Christmas shopping week. But, as always, there were interesting movers and shakers on the tally to note, so let's go:

-- Michael Jackson: At No. 27, his "Number Ones" set zips up 156 slots on the chart -- the second-biggest leap on the tally (19,000; up 78%), marking the highest rank for the King of Pop's 2003 best-of set since the tally dated Jan. 24, 2004, when it was No. 24. However, it did spend six weeks at No. 1 on the now-defunct Comprehensive Albums chart in 2009, after his sudden death. Why didn't it chart on the Billboard 200 back then? As many chart-watchers know, the Billboard 200 barred catalog albums (older releases) from charting between 1991 through the end of 2009. Since the end of 2009 though, the chart now allows all albums -- regardless of their age -- to co-exist in chart harmony.

Michael Jackson's kids to impress his hand, footprints at Grauman's

sweet christmas, is that picture real? ive never seen pictures of his kids before.. did he have sex with a ghost? how did they get that white

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I love his hair style during this period.

http://www.rochester.edu/news/show.php?id=3979

Controversy and scandal marred Michael Jackson's reputation as the most influential entertainer of all time, however a new book about the King of Pop is designed to change that.

"I wanted to help shift the discussion back to what made him famous in the first place, which is his music," said Joseph Vogel, a doctoral candidate in the University of Rochester's English Department and author of Man in the Music: The Creative Life and Work of Michael Jackson (Sterling Press, 2011).

The book assesses Jackson's solo catalog from the 1979 album Off the Wall to the music he created before his death in 2009. In order to understand the creative process behind each song and how the albums were created, Vogel drew on hundreds of sources, including archives from Jackson's estate, Jackson's own words, and interviews with his collaborators— some of whom are speaking out about their experiences for the first time.

In addition to receiving positive reviews in the national media, the book caught the attention of film director Spike Lee, who wrote:

"Mr. Joe Vogel has brilliantly cracked the DNA, the code of the work, the artistry of Michael Joseph Jackson. I want to stress the word 'artistry' because people have forgotten or never understood that's what MJ is, that's what he worked at day and night. This is the book I have been long awaiting — a pointed, intelligent dissection of an epic body of work. Mr. Joe Vogel breaks it down album by album, song by song."

Lee reached out to Vogel after reading his book to offer his support and invite him to speak to students in his graduate film class at New York University. Vogel also has received positive feedback from scholars who plan to use the material in courses that look at popular culture, African American studies, and music.

"I've always been fascinated with Michael Jackson's music and given his cultural impact it is remarkable how little information about his body of work is available," said Vogel, who categorizes most current literature about Jackson as fan adulation or tabloid "tell-alls."

Vogel began writing the book during Jackson's 2005 trial on child molestation and other charges, when speculation about Jackson's guilt was used to ridicule everything from his appearance to his children. Jackson was later acquitted of all charges.

"The book started as a way for me to use my literary background to analyze his songs, but after his death especially it also became a way to document history by putting the music in context and learning about the creative process," said Vogel, who describes the book as a "hybrid between popular reading and scholarly research."

Vogel writes about music, popular culture, and politics for The Huffington Post and is the author of three books, including a memoir, Free Speech 101: The Utah Valley Uproar over Michael Moore (WindRiver Publishing, 2004) and The Obama Movement: Why Barack Obama Speaks to America's Youth (Silverton House, 2007). He is an instructor in the University's writing program and a fourth-year doctoral candidate studying 20th century American literature, popular music and culture, and romanticism.

MJ and Friends. Has this ever been released? I don't think I've ever seen the whole show. What was the reason behind this show?

The beat from 2:10-2:20 is so smelly!

ViintageJunkiie said:

MJ and Friends. Has this ever been released? I don't think I've ever seen the whole show. What was the reason behind this show?

The beat from 2:10-2:20 is so smelly!

2 charity shows. One in Munich Germany and one in Seoul Korea

All proceeds from these concerts were donated to the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund, the Red Cross, and UNESCO.

Timmy84 said:

[img:$uid]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxakoz6poJ1qd37nbo1_250.gif[/img:$uid]

I love his hair style during this period.

Brunei show right? I loved that too at the end of black or white and had to watch it on repeat

ViintageJunkiie said:

MJ and Friends. Has this ever been released? I don't think I've ever seen the whole show. What was the reason behind this show?

The beat from 2:10-2:20 is so smelly!

If I'm not mistaken, in this show a bridge that lifted him up during 'Earth Song' malfunctioned and chrashed down pretty badly. Although he finished the show, I think he was very hurt and possibly injured. I think he talks about this in a video someone posted here recently.

Phishanga said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

MJ and Friends. Has this ever been released? I don't think I've ever seen the whole show. What was the reason behind this show?

[video]

The beat from 2:10-2:20 is so smelly!

If I'm not mistaken, in this show a bridge that lifted him up during 'Earth Song' malfunctioned and chrashed down pretty badly. Although he finished the show, I think he was very hurt and possibly injured. I think he talks about this in a video someone posted here recently.

Yeah, I remember that. I was going to post about it a while ago. Somebody [can't remember who] said they thought he was dead when he fell. But he just got right back up and kept performing. Never even stopped singing [or lip synching - whichever]. That's professional.

I don't know which show that was, though - Germany or Korea?

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CrabalockerFishwife said:

Phishanga said:

If I'm not mistaken, in this show a bridge that lifted him up during 'Earth Song' malfunctioned and chrashed down pretty badly. Although he finished the show, I think he was very hurt and possibly injured. I think he talks about this in a video someone posted here recently.

Yeah, I remember that. I was going to post about it a while ago. Somebody [can't remember who] said they thought he was dead when he fell. But he just got right back up and kept performing. Never even stopped singing [or lip synching - whichever]. That's professional.

I don't know which show that was, though - Germany or Korea?

[Edited 1/7/12 4:57am]

In Germany... It doesn't look THAT bad but I guess it could have hurt the back.

alphastreet said:

Timmy84 said:

[img:$uid]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxakoz6poJ1qd37nbo1_250.gif[/img:$uid]

I love his hair style during this period.

Brunei show right? I loved that too at the end of black or white and had to watch it on repeat

He is so freaking hot during the Brunei show. The Royal Brunei show if that 's what you're talking about.

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

MJ and Friends. Has this ever been released? I don't think I've ever seen the whole show. What was the reason behind this show?

The beat from 2:10-2:20 is so smelly!

2 charity shows. One in Munich Germany and one in Seoul Korea

All proceeds from these concerts were donated to the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund, the Red Cross, and UNESCO.

This aired on tv? I watched the whole thing on Youtube but I noticed he didn't really perform. Most were just small snippets and a few full songs