Gunsnhalen said:

U2 maybe overrated, but there music to me has a lot more meaning, depth, musicianship and feeling then almost 90 percent of what MJ did.

Anothe runderrated? what about Annie Lennox? to me her & Teena Marie are the white queens of soul and outside this board are very underrated.

U2 is one of my most favorite bands, their music is amazing. But I can see why people think they are overrated. I also thought this first. But after I got into their music, I love them, and they became one of my favorite bands.

LiLi1992 said:

What musical artists do not deserve the credit they receive, or vice versa, should have much more success?

I do not want to offend anyone, but always thought Nirvana get too much credit. They are a great band, but to put them on a par with the classics of rock: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd .... it's really strange and undeserved, imo.

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Overrated

Britney Spears

The Beatles

Rihanna

Diana Ross

Underrated

New Edition

Mariah Carey

Parliament Funkadelic

Cyndi Lauper

El DeBarge

there's others but this is what first comes to mind. Also, I use the terms over/under-rated interchangeably with over/under-appreciated.

HotGritz said:

LiLi1992 said:

What musical artists do not deserve the credit they receive, or vice versa, should have much more success?

I do not want to offend anyone, but always thought Nirvana get too much credit. They are a great band, but to put them on a par with the classics of rock: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd .... it's really strange and undeserved, imo.

[Edited 10/26/11 4:40am]

Overrated

Britney Spears

The Beatles

Rihanna

Diana Ross

Underrated

New Edition

Mariah Carey

Parliament Funkadelic

Cyndi Lauper

El DeBarge

there's others but this is what first comes to mind. Also, I use the terms over/under-rated interchangeably with over/under-appreciated.

El never gets that much but he has one of the best voices around

HotGritz said:

LiLi1992 said:

What musical artists do not deserve the credit they receive, or vice versa, should have much more success?

I do not want to offend anyone, but always thought Nirvana get too much credit. They are a great band, but to put them on a par with the classics of rock: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd .... it's really strange and undeserved, imo.

[Edited 10/26/11 4:40am]

Overrated

Britney Spears

The Beatles

Rihanna

Diana Ross

Underrated

New Edition

Mariah Carey

Parliament Funkadelic

Cyndi Lauper

El DeBarge

there's others but this is what first comes to mind. Also, I use the terms over/under-rated interchangeably with over/under-appreciated.

The Beatles and Diana Ross looked far from harmonious in the list with Britney and Rihanna ... Just saying.

Mariah Carey is underrated? Really?

LiLi1992 said:

HotGritz said:

Overrated

Britney Spears

The Beatles

Rihanna

Diana Ross

Underrated

New Edition

Mariah Carey

Parliament Funkadelic

Cyndi Lauper

El DeBarge

there's others but this is what first comes to mind. Also, I use the terms over/under-rated interchangeably with over/under-appreciated.

The Beatles and Diana Ross looked far from harmonious in the list with Britney and Rihanna ... Just saying.

Mariah Carey is underrated? Really?

Mimi. Yes. Underrated.

she has been relegated to a pop princess and she's far too talented for that. her powerful voice aside, she's a song writer and has chosen some great people to collaborate with which makes her somewhat of a smart business woman. I recognize that Tommy did her major props by making her the focus of his label back in the day but he also pigeon holed her. in a sense, she was like some black miley cyrus. Her best music, IMO, came after her divorce from that bootleg mobster.

Diana and the Beatles to me were heavily marketed to a certain audience and I think the press was paid for the extra favor shown to those groups. The Beatles were better as solo artists - that was some quality music. Diana...well...she's a hit or miss type of artist. She strikes me as someone who will try and fit into any niche she can. Yeah she's an icon but I think that's mostly because she's been around so damn long.

musicjunky318 said:

Stevie Wonder - I don't get how he's constantly put in the greatest voices of all time category. With Stevie, to me at least, it's first and foremost about what he's saying rather than how he's saying it. There were and are people who could just flat out sing. Sam Cooke, Elvis Presley, Ray Charles, Freddie Mercury...I wouldn't put him amongst those names.

Elvis Presley - Did not invent Rock & Roll. That seems to be a common misconception with many.

Bob Dylan - Genius songwriter but seriously needs to be kept off greatest voices of all time lists.

Michael Jackson - Talented songwriter but a bit overrated. Some material is borderline cheesy.

Said the Britney Spears fan. (kidding)

Graycap23 said:

xLiberiangirl said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...son_album)

All of that is great until u hear Teddy's demos.............

Where are they?

HotGritz said:

LiLi1992 said:

What musical artists do not deserve the credit they receive, or vice versa, should have much more success?

I do not want to offend anyone, but always thought Nirvana get too much credit. They are a great band, but to put them on a par with the classics of rock: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd .... it's really strange and undeserved, imo.

[Edited 10/26/11 4:40am]

Overrated

Britney Spears

The Beatles

Rihanna

Diana Ross

Underrated

New Edition

Mariah Carey

Parliament Funkadelic

Cyndi Lauper

El DeBarge

there's others but this is what first comes to mind. Also, I use the terms over/under-rated interchangeably with over/under-appreciated.

LOL! Diana Ross! I thought I was the ONLY ONE ON EARTH who sees her as being overrated! She has one of the thinnest, weakest voices I've ever heard in my entire life and she's a legend? Same with Nancy Wilson...weak, thin, same ole, same ole kinda voice and those random yelp-breaths don't help her any EITHER. I fail to see the legendary status in her as well. No offense intended, y'all. Just my opinions.

whitechocolatebrotha said:

HotGritz said:

Overrated

Britney Spears

The Beatles

Rihanna

Diana Ross

Underrated

New Edition

Mariah Carey

Parliament Funkadelic

Cyndi Lauper

El DeBarge

there's others but this is what first comes to mind. Also, I use the terms over/under-rated interchangeably with over/under-appreciated.

LOL! Diana Ross! I thought I was the ONLY ONE ON EARTH who sees her as being overrated! She has one of the thinnest, weakest voices I've ever heard in my entire life and she's a legend? Same with Nancy Wilson...weak, thin, same ole, same ole kinda voice and those random yelp-breaths don't help her any EITHER. I fail to see the legendary status in her as well. No offense intended, y'all. Just my opinions.

Additionally, I think the New Edition SUCKS vocally. How these guys ever made it into the big league with their paper-thin, prepubescent voices is beYOND me. They STILL SOUND like a bunch of babies. Ralph would be excluded here. He's actually okay. Adding Johnny Gill to the mix seemed like an insult to HIMSELF (Gill), where his vocal power and prowess are beneath any other member of the band. Johnny could outsing any ONE of his bandmates in 1/4 of a note.

mjscarousal said:

HotGritz said:

Overrated

Britney Spears

The Beatles

Rihanna

Diana Ross

Underrated

New Edition

Mariah Carey

Parliament Funkadelic

Cyndi Lauper

El DeBarge

there's others but this is what first comes to mind. Also, I use the terms over/under-rated interchangeably with over/under-appreciated.

El never gets that much but he has one of the best voices around

And he's a songwriter too if I'm not mistaken. Musician (piano) as well. Those little extras count for A LOT!

HotGritz said:

mjscarousal said:

El never gets that much but he has one of the best voices around

And he's a songwriter too if I'm not mistaken. Musician (piano) as well. Those little extras count for A LOT!

Yes, he IS! El's bangin' and he's blessed with a very pitch-perfect, sweet-sounding falsetto that literally wraps around any song he chooses to undertake. I reference specifically a Jam/Lewis composition "The Other Side" from his "Second Chance" CD. It's melancholia at its very best and the vocals prove this.

HotGritz said:

LiLi1992 said:

What musical artists do not deserve the credit they receive, or vice versa, should have much more success?

I do not want to offend anyone, but always thought Nirvana get too much credit. They are a great band, but to put them on a par with the classics of rock: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd .... it's really strange and undeserved, imo.

[Edited 10/26/11 4:40am]

Overrated

Britney Spears

The Beatles

Rihanna

Diana Ross

Underrated

New Edition

Mariah Carey

Parliament Funkadelic

Cyndi Lauper

El DeBarge

there's others but this is what first comes to mind. Also, I use the terms over/under-rated interchangeably with over/under-appreciated.

I love your list!

MadamGoodnight said:

HotGritz said:

Overrated

Britney Spears

The Beatles

Rihanna

Diana Ross

Underrated

New Edition

Mariah Carey

Parliament Funkadelic

Cyndi Lauper

El DeBarge

there's others but this is what first comes to mind. Also, I use the terms over/under-rated interchangeably with over/under-appreciated.

I love your list!

whitechocolatebrotha said:

whitechocolatebrotha said:

LOL! Diana Ross! I thought I was the ONLY ONE ON EARTH who sees her as being overrated! She has one of the thinnest, weakest voices I've ever heard in my entire life and she's a legend? Same with Nancy Wilson...weak, thin, same ole, same ole kinda voice and those random yelp-breaths don't help her any EITHER. I fail to see the legendary status in her as well. No offense intended, y'all. Just my opinions.

Additionally, I think the New Edition SUCKS vocally. How these guys ever made it into the big league with their paper-thin, prepubescent voices is beYOND me. They STILL SOUND like a bunch of babies. Ralph would be excluded here. He's actually okay. Adding Johnny Gill to the mix seemed like an insult to HIMSELF (Gill), where his vocal power and prowess are beneath any other member of the band. Johnny could outsing any ONE of his bandmates in 1/4 of a note.

Now I love me some NE but if I were to put my music critic hat on and forget that Ralph makes me weak and that Ronnie has a special place in my heart , I have to agree with you that vocally, they did not mature as they should have. As a child group they worked but as they got older, its clear that their harmony had some help by non-members.

Thankfully, Johnny's "man" voice added class to the group. When you think about it, they are no longer NE but rather, Ralph the falsetto background singer, Bell Biv Devoe (dancers & rappers), and Johnny the soloist who would be front man if he were just a tad more attractive. Bobby, god bless his dysfucntional ass, cannot sing IMO. He tries but I've heard him live, before the drugs took his voice, and I wasn't impressed. Is he a great performer? Yep. And it is for that reason that he is not on my overrated list.

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Underrated:

Minnie Ripperton... her voice is perfect.

mjscarousal said:

Underrated:

Minnie Ripperton... her voice is perfect.

BEYONCE. I hated Destiny's Child. I hate her solo career even more. Boring voice, can't dance, damn sure can't act! Whoever said she does unnecessary runs and riffs was absolutely right. I don't know who told her that shit was tight. She's the queen alright, the queen of 'deluxe editions.'

Mary J. Blidge. Screams and tries (but fails miserably) to hit high notes. She has some great songs, don't get me wrong. But the last thing listenable she released was "No More Drama."

MJ - Enough said.

Britney Spears - Talentless white trash.

I could go on, but it's late and I'm tired.

Top 10 Most Overrated Bands
10
Red Hot Chili Peppers
9
Bon Jovi
8
Green Day
7
U2
6
Guns N’ Roses
5
The Beach Boys
4
Metallica
3
Nickelback
2
AC/DC
1
Nirvana

http://listverse.com/2008/11/21/top-10-most-overrated-bands/

Not bad list/

Opinions???

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musicjunky318 said:

Stevie Wonder - I don't get how he's constantly put in the greatest voices of all time category. With Stevie, to me at least, it's first and foremost about what he's saying rather than how he's saying it. There were and are people who could just flat out sing. Sam Cooke, Elvis Presley, Ray Charles, Freddie Mercury...I wouldn't put him amongst those names.

That's just your own opinion.

Among those singers you mentioned, none can outsing Stevie Wonder because all are different singers.

There are certain criteria of good singing.

such as wide range, clear tone, good diction, diverse phrasing, pitch accuracy, breathing control...

And Stevie is great in all of those things. Besides he has most unique singing voice in music history. That's why many people and many fellow singers regard Stevie as one of greatest vocal of all time.

I remember you once said "Stevie is just about emotion"

But one thing you must not overlook is that carrying the emotion to song requires great skills and practices.

sly67 said:

musicjunky318 said:

Stevie Wonder - I don't get how he's constantly put in the greatest voices of all time category. With Stevie, to me at least, it's first and foremost about what he's saying rather than how he's saying it. There were and are people who could just flat out sing. Sam Cooke, Elvis Presley, Ray Charles, Freddie Mercury...I wouldn't put him amongst those names.

That's just your own opinion.

Among those singers you mentioned, none can outsing Stevie Wonder because all are different singers.

There are certain criteria of good singing.

such as wide range, clear tone, good diction, diverse phrasing, pitch accuracy, breathing control...

And Stevie is great in all of those things. Besides he has most unique singing voice in music history. That's why many people and many fellow singers regard Stevie as one of greatest vocal of all time.

I remember you once said "Stevie is just about emotion"

But one thing you must not overlook is that carrying the emotion to song requires great skills and practices.

I definitly agree...

I know we all got opinions but geez some of these choices are utter bullshit just done on purpose just because ...

There is nothing absolutely nothing overrated about Stevie Wonder

Underrated:

Angela Winbush. She should have been made bigger career as a solo artist and producer.

Two more for the "overrated"category":(on this site anyway)

The Revolution

The Original 7venven:no:

Underrated

Grand Master Flash and The Furious Five

As far as I'm concerned, they invented rap.

Sade (currently). Her last album received very little airplay and promotion.

LiLi1992 said:

4
Metallica

bullshit, best american metal band of all time. Have you even heard their 80s albums?

JoeTyler said:

LiLi1992 said:

4
Metallica

bullshit, best american metal band of all time. Have you even heard their 80s albums?

Metallica - one of my favorite bands of all time.

I've heard absolutely every their song, you can be sure.

The list is not mine.
I gave a link, do not you see?
My list on page 2.

LiLi1992 said:

Top 10 Most Overrated Bands
10
Red Hot Chili Peppers
9
Bon Jovi
8
Green Day
7
U2
6
Guns N’ Roses
5
The Beach Boys
4
Metallica
3
Nickelback
2
AC/DC
1
Nirvana

http://listverse.com/2008/11/21/top-10-most-overrated-bands/

Not bad list/

Opinions???

[Edited 10/28/11 0:46am]

Obviously the GNR i disagree with immediately U2 & Red Hot are 2 of my faves... and U2 Might be overrated to some i can see but RHCP?

Nickelback is rated as anything by people? that's news to me

Green Day are extremely overrated.. don't dig them that much. Bon Jovi i like them, but there probably more overrated popularity wise then anything.

But seriously i can't this list seriously, because no one overrated or puts Nickelback on any kind throne

Overrated:

Animal Collective

U2

The Beatles

Nirvana

Taylor Swift

Radiohead

Neutral Milk Hotel

I want to put Marvin Gaye, James Brown, Michael Jackson, Prince, and Stevie Wonder as they are the only black musicians that anyone ever seems to talk about as if no one else exists. I know that they are all wonderful, achieved big things and I love a lot of their music, but damn. =/

Underrated

Janet Jackson

Cyndi Lauper

Heart

Tiffany

The Time

Sheila E.

Robyn

Cher

Pink

The Supremes

Fleetwood Mac

Belinda Carlisle

The Bangles

Overrated

Beyonce

Rihanna

U2

Nirvana

Madonna

The Beatles

Justin Beiber

Taylor Swift

B.E.P.

Britney Spears

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