Nightwish are underrated.

Graycap23 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

This is NOt true, even the songs that teddy riley contributed in were already intial ideas written by MJ ............

Ok....back 2 the topic.

Yes, probably the most reasonable thing you have said thus far

Gunsnhalen said:

musicjunky318 said:

Stevie Wonder - I don't get how he's constantly put in the greatest voices of all time category. With Stevie, to me at least, it's first and foremost about what he's saying rather than how he's saying it. There were and are people who could just flat out sing. Sam Cooke, Elvis Presley, Ray Charles, Freddie Mercury...I wouldn't put him amongst those names.

Elvis Presley - Did not invent Rock & Roll. That seems to be a common misconception with many.

Bob Dylan - Genius songwriter but seriously needs to be kept off greatest voices of all time lists.

Michael Jackson - Talented songwriter but a bit overrated. Some material is borderline cheesy.

Wait so you think Elvis is a better singer then Stevie? i mean to be Elvis is not even that amazing of a singer.... And certainly not better then Stevie. Stevie had more range

Yes.

Overrated

Michael Jackson - IMO, he was not that good of a singer and was a trite songwriter. His strength was in his ability as an entertainer but that went weary in the mid to late 90's. I don't understand why people refer to him as a 'musical genius'.

The Beatles - I like their songs but they're beyond overrated.

Elvis Presley - Overrated. Stole black music and tried to make it his own. Annoying voice and persona.

Kanye West - BLAH. People keep rambling about how brilliant his work is but he's not that good of a rapper.

Jay-Z - Never got his hype.

Eminem - Same as Jay-Z.

Mary J. Blige

Alicia Keys - The piano gimmick is tired and so are her "vocals".

John Legend - Same as Alicia Keys

Beyonce - She yells through each song and adds a ton of unnecessary runs in her songs, shakes her weave and ass - rinse, lather, repeat. Boring.

Lady Gaga - Redundant

Adele - *YAWN* You're not Etta James.

U2 - LOL.

LiLi1992 said:

Dewrede said:

overrated

U2

Madonna (yuck)

Aretha Franklin

Muse (yuck)

Marvin Gaye

Bjork (yuck)

Bob Marley

and i agree with nirvana being overrated

[Edited 10/27/11 9:11am]

You are very brave guy.
These are most respected artists in this forum.
While I agree.

Guys, MJ is not overrated songwriter. It is ridiculous to say it. Many people do not even know that he is the author of most of his hits. His place in the lists of the best songwriters usually 30-80. He never entered the Top 30.
Jackson wrote many good songs, you really think that the place from 30 to 80 - is too high for him? I do not understand, frankly.

The Beatles are not overrated. They defined the vector of the music, their influence is enormous, and their harmonies are phenomenal, their tunes - this is a step forward in the development of music.
Perhaps some members of the Beatles over-priced, but as a team they really are the greatest ever.
While I understand why many consider the Beatles overrated. Any band / artist who'd be in their place, would caused a lot of claims too.
If not the Beatles, who earned the right to be called the greatest?? I'm sure no one will answer this question.

I like Bob Marley , but a genius , as some make him out to be , he is not

Same goes for the other 2

The Beates indeed are the greatest band of all time

neonlights said:

Overrated

Michael Jackson - IMO, he was not that good of a singer and was a trite songwriter. His strength was in his ability as an entertainer but that went weary in the mid to late 90's. I don't understand why people refer to him as a 'musical genius'.

The Beatles - I like their songs but they're beyond overrated.

Elvis Presley - Overrated. Stole black music and tried to make it his own. Annoying voice and persona.

Kanye West - BLAH. People keep rambling about how brilliant his work is but he's not that good of a rapper.

Jay-Z - Never got his hype.

Eminem - Same as Jay-Z.

Mary J. Blige

Alicia Keys - The piano gimmick is tired and so are her "vocals".

John Legend - Same as Alicia Keys

Beyonce - She yells through each song and adds a ton of unnecessary runs in her songs, shakes her weave and ass - rinse, lather, repeat. Boring.

Lady Gaga - Redundant

Adele - *YAWN* You're not Etta James.

U2 - LOL.

I never understood that crap argument

How did he 'steal' anyone's music ?

Wasn't he allowed to make rock 'n roll music because he was white ?

such nonsense

Elvis is great in my book , a great singer and a great performer

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xLiberiangirl said:

Underrated;

Prince

Kate Bush

George Michael

Kraftwerk

Talking Heads

Eurythmics/ Annie Lennox

[Edited 10/27/11 9:32am]

If you mean underrated by the general public, I can understand where you are coming from, but, generally, speaking, those two acts are far from underrated.

Dewrede said:

I never understood that crap argument

How did he 'steal' anyone's music ?

Wasn't he allowed to make rock 'n roll music because he was white ?

such nonsense

Elvis is great in my book , a great singer and a great performer

[Edited 10/27/11 10:51am]

How is it a crap argument? It's an argument that many critics and artists have echoed over the years.

He's "great" in your book but not in mine.

Unholyalliance said:

xLiberiangirl said:

Underrated;

Prince

Kate Bush

George Michael

Kraftwerk

Talking Heads

Eurythmics/ Annie Lennox

[Edited 10/27/11 9:32am]

If you mean underrated by the general public, I can understand where you are coming from, but, generally, speaking, those two acts are far from underrated.

Yes that's what I mean, underrated by the general public.

neonlights said:

Dewrede said:

I never understood that crap argument

How did he 'steal' anyone's music ?

Wasn't he allowed to make rock 'n roll music because he was white ?

such nonsense

Elvis is great in my book , a great singer and a great performer

[Edited 10/27/11 10:51am]

How is it a crap argument? It's an argument that many critics and artists have echoed over the years.

He's "great" in your book but not in mine.

You're just in a bad mood.
Jackson - a bad singer, Elvis - a tedious and a thief
The Beatles - the most overrated group.

Elvis is really overrated in general, but it is a really good singer.

And yes, Eminem - the best rapper of the 21st century.

This topic has become uncontrollable.

It is interesting to see your list of the most underrated artists

[Edited 10/27/11 11:13am]

LiLi1992 said:

The Beatles are not overrated. They defined the vector of the music, their influence is enormous, and their harmonies are phenomenal, their tunes - this is a step forward in the development of music.

Perhaps some members of the Beatles over-priced, but as a team they really are the greatest ever.
While I understand why many consider the Beatles overrated. Any band / artist who'd be in their place, would caused a lot of claims too.
If not the Beatles, who earned the right to be called the greatest?? I'm sure no one will answer this question.

Statements like this are why they are overrated.

Unholyalliance said:

LiLi1992 said:

The Beatles are not overrated. They defined the vector of the music, their influence is enormous, and their harmonies are phenomenal, their tunes - this is a step forward in the development of music.

Perhaps some members of the Beatles over-priced, but as a team they really are the greatest ever.
While I understand why many consider the Beatles overrated. Any band / artist who'd be in their place, would caused a lot of claims too.
If not the Beatles, who earned the right to be called the greatest?? I'm sure no one will answer this question.

Statements like this are why they are overrated.

I understand the logic.

But then answer this:

If not the Beatles, who earned the right to be called the greatest??

If we need someone to call the greatest, no one deserves it more than the Beatles.

LiLi1992 said:

You're just in a bad mood.
Jackson - a bad singer, Elvis - a tedious and a thief
The Beatles - the most overrated group.

Elvis is really overrated in general, but it is a really good singer.

And yes, Eminem - the best rapper of the 21st century.

This topic has become uncontrollable.

It is interesting to see your list of the most underrated artists

[Edited 10/27/11 11:13am]

I'm not in a bad mood at all. Perhaps you can't take opinions and you're upset by the responses.

Elvis is overrated and a medicore singer in MY opinion. Again, MY opinion.

In MY opinion, Eminem is NOT a the best rapper of the 21st century.

[Edited 10/27/11 11:28am]

coltrane3 said:

overrated/underrdated = "people don't think exactly the same way about an artist as I do." The terms have no meaning any more.

neonlights said:

LiLi1992 said:

You're just in a bad mood.
Jackson - a bad singer, Elvis - a tedious and a thief
The Beatles - the most overrated group.

Elvis is really overrated in general, but it is a really good singer.

And yes, Eminem - the best rapper of the 21st century.

This topic has become uncontrollable.

It is interesting to see your list of the most underrated artists

[Edited 10/27/11 11:13am]

I'm not in a bad mood at all. Perhaps you can't take opinions and you're upset by the responses.

Elvis is overrated and a medicore singer in MY opinion. Again, MY opinion.

In MY opinion, Eminem is NOT a the best rapper of the 21st century.

[Edited 10/27/11 11:28am]

I am interested in any opinions. Simply topic discussion, not just "intelligently expressed our opinions, and went," so I'm expressing an objection, you too can not agree, it will be interesting.
Sometimes difficult to understand, this is really an opinion, or trolling.

Where is your list of underrated music artists?

LiLi1992 said:

If we need someone to call the greatest, no one deserves it more than the Beatles.

I don't think that title is even necessary. All it does it cause arguments because everyone disagrees about who is the 'greatest.'

neonlights said:

Overrated

Michael Jackson - IMO, he was not that good of a singer and was a trite songwriter. His strength was in his ability as an entertainer but that went weary in the mid to late 90's. I don't understand why people refer to him as a 'musical genius'.

The Beatles - I like their songs but they're beyond overrated.

Elvis Presley - Overrated. Stole black music and tried to make it his own. Annoying voice and persona.

Kanye West - BLAH. People keep rambling about how brilliant his work is but he's not that good of a rapper.

Jay-Z - Never got his hype.

Eminem - Same as Jay-Z.

Mary J. Blige

Alicia Keys - The piano gimmick is tired and so are her "vocals".

John Legend - Same as Alicia Keys

Beyonce - She yells through each song and adds a ton of unnecessary runs in her songs, shakes her weave and ass - rinse, lather, repeat. Boring.

Lady Gaga - Redundant

Adele - *YAWN* You're not Etta James.

U2 - LOL.

HAHAHAHAHA I'm curious about what your underrated list looks like....

Underrated:

Patrice Rushen. Incredible song-writter and multi-instrumentalist, but known only as one-hit-wonder.

NewJillSwing94 said:

Underrated:

Patrice Rushen. Incredible song-writter and multi-instrumentalist, but known only as one-hit-wonder.

I do not even know that 1 hit. Oops!

Write the name, please.

Пы.Сы. Ты из Украины? Как тесен мир (((:

^"Forget Me Nots"

[Edited 10/27/11 12:38pm]

BitetheBeat said:thank you

^"Forget Me Nots"

[Edited 10/27/11 12:38pm]

thank you

Overrated: The Doors. Good music, but Jimbo's myth has given them a place in rock history they don't deserve.

Underrated: Peter Gabriel. Brilliant with Genesis, he has made a solo career both groundbreaking and successful.

Note: To become overrated, just die tragically. See The Doors, Marvin Gaye, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain, etc.

Marvin Gaye

Unholyalliance said:

mjscarousal said:

Marvin Gaye

Yeah, I know he is really loved in prince.org... I like his music a lot, but hey, this is the topic of this thread, at least in part: very good musicians who aren't THAT great. That's my opinion on Gaye.

Javi said:

mjscarousal said:

Marvin Gaye

Yeah, I know he is really loved in prince.org... I like his music a lot, but hey, this is the topic of this thread, at least in part: very good musicians who aren't THAT great. That's my opinion on Gaye.

Cocaine is a hella of drug

mjscarousal said:

Javi said:

Yeah, I know he is really loved in prince.org... I like his music a lot, but hey, this is the topic of this thread, at least in part: very good musicians who aren't THAT great. That's my opinion on Gaye.

Cocaine is a hella of drug

Stevie Wonder is the man.

U2 maybe overrated, but there music to me has a lot more meaning, depth, musicianship and feeling then almost 90 percent of what MJ did.

Anothe runderrated? what about Annie Lennox? to me her & Teena Marie are the white queens of soul and outside this board are very underrated.

neonlights said:

Overrated

Michael Jackson - IMO, he was not that good of a singer and was a trite songwriter. His strength was in his ability as an entertainer but that went weary in the mid to late 90's. I don't understand why people refer to him as a 'musical genius'.

The Beatles - I like their songs but they're beyond overrated.

Elvis Presley - Overrated. Stole black music and tried to make it his own. Annoying voice and persona.

Kanye West - BLAH. People keep rambling about how brilliant his work is but he's not that good of a rapper.

Jay-Z - Never got his hype.

Eminem - Same as Jay-Z.

Mary J. Blige

Alicia Keys - The piano gimmick is tired and so are her "vocals".

John Legend - Same as Alicia Keys

Beyonce - She yells through each song and adds a ton of unnecessary runs in her songs, shakes her weave and ass - rinse, lather, repeat. Boring.

Lady Gaga - Redundant

Adele - *YAWN* You're not Etta James.

U2 - LOL.

Um, boo boo Adele is not trying to be Etta james. Nor never claimed to be.. Adele is trying to be... Adele

The most underrated band in the world is Paddy McAloon's Prefab Sprout.

God bless him.