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Reply #390 posted 11/14/11 12:48pm

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Part of a 2 hour never before broadcast concert with exclusive uncut footage of Michael up close and personal. Filmed by Michael's own production crew and offered for sale with The Fame Bureau on November 26th 2011

I want this.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #391 posted 11/14/11 12:49pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

The question is why MJ was writing those song titles on paper eek ? why?

Why is it strange to you? There's nothing weird about it to me. I'd be writing it as well.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #392 posted 11/14/11 12:57pm

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dag said:

seeingvoices12 said:

The question is why MJ was writing those song titles on paper eek ? why?

Why is it strange to you? There's nothing weird about it to me. I'd be writing it as well.

Likewise! lol

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Reply #393 posted 11/14/11 1:10pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

The question is why MJ was writing those song titles on paper eek ? why?

Why is it strange to you? There's nothing weird about it to me. I'd be writing it as well.

it's maybe strange because this is the first time I see Mj write song titles on paper , I see he always writes song lyrics on paper not song titles but it's really interesting regardless and amazing to see ......

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Reply #394 posted 11/14/11 1:26pm

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Sometimes even musicians can forget song titles, sometimes they have to write them down so they can remember it later when it comes to recording. Of course he never wrote lyrics but that doesn't mean he always remembered his song titles lol

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Reply #395 posted 11/14/11 1:57pm

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Sometimes even musicians can forget song titles, sometimes they have to write them down so they can remember it later when it comes to recording. Of course he never wrote lyrics but that doesn't mean he always remembered his song titles lol

I agree
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Reply #396 posted 11/14/11 2:39pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

dag said:

Why is it strange to you? There's nothing weird about it to me. I'd be writing it as well.

it's maybe strange because this is the first time I see Mj write song titles on paper , I see he always writes song lyrics on paper not song titles but it's really interesting regardless and amazing to see ......

Not strange. They were listing the songs to see what needs what and see which songs should make the cut. Some parts, he's giving Teddy instructions to work on certain things

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Reply #397 posted 11/14/11 2:58pm

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If anyone wants those Herb Ritts photos, they're for sale here lol

http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/37/lot/12526/from/find-lots/

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Reply #398 posted 11/14/11 3:00pm

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[img:$uid]http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/65897/0/lot65897.jpg[/img:$uid]

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Reply #399 posted 11/14/11 6:25pm

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If anyone wants those Herb Ritts photos, they're for sale here lol

http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/37/lot/12526/from/find-lots/

Forget the photos,I want the boxer shorts! lol

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Reply #400 posted 11/14/11 9:29pm

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ItsAllForLOVE said:

I love Best of Joy. It has been around since Dangerous?

Nah, it's from 2009. It's from Michael's last recording sessions

His voice is amazing on this song. When I first heard it, I thought it was from a much earlier recording, but then knew it wan't since Michael is supposed to be current recordings. Anyway, he sounds so sweet.

Ahh, I see, it was an earlier record!

[Edited 11/14/11 21:36pm]

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Reply #401 posted 11/14/11 9:30pm

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Claire73 said:

[img:$uid]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lub7ob8K8q1qlnnyl.gif[/img:$uid]

lol lol lol

[Edited 11/13/11 10:12am]

Pajama Boogie! biggrin biggrin biggrin

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Reply #402 posted 11/14/11 9:50pm

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bboy87 said:

Nah, it's from 2009. It's from Michael's last recording sessions

His voice is amazing on this song. When I first heard it, I thought it was from a much earlier recording, but then knew it wan't since Michael is supposed to be current recordings. Anyway, he sounds so sweet.

Ahh, I see, it was an earlier record!

[Edited 11/14/11 21:36pm]

The song has such a BeeGees feel to it doesn't it?

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Reply #403 posted 11/14/11 10:33pm

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bboy87 said:

Nah, it's from 2009. It's from Michael's last recording sessions

His voice is amazing on this song. When I first heard it, I thought it was from a much earlier recording, but then knew it wan't since Michael is supposed to be current recordings. Anyway, he sounds so sweet.

Ahh, I see, it was an earlier record!

[Edited 11/14/11 21:36pm]

A lot of MJ's songs were recorded years before being officially released

Wanna Be Startin Something - 1978

Dirty Diana - 1983

Liberian Girl - 1983

Another Part of Me - 1985

Stranger in Moscow - 1993

Black or White - 1986/87

They Don't Care About Us - Recorded as early as 1990

Earth Song - 1989/90

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Reply #404 posted 11/14/11 11:31pm

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kellistarr120 said:

His voice is amazing on this song. When I first heard it, I thought it was from a much earlier recording, but then knew it wan't since Michael is supposed to be current recordings. Anyway, he sounds so sweet.

Ahh, I see, it was an earlier record!

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A lot of MJ's songs were recorded years before being officially released

Wanna Be Startin Something - 1978

Dirty Diana - 1983

Liberian Girl - 1983

Another Part of Me - 1985

Stranger in Moscow - 1993

Black or White - 1986/87

They Don't Care About Us - Recorded as early as 1990

Earth Song - 1989/90

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He'd sit on tracks and keep working on them until the right time

Michael and the brothers were writing songs back in 1973-75 at Hayvenhurst but Motown wasn't letting them release anything, so who knows how long he sat on a song like Blues Away or Do What You Wanna

He wrote Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' back in 1978-79 but held it from Quincy because it wasn't quite right. He finally played it for Q, Rod, and Greg Philliganes when Thriller came

Dirty Diana and Liberian Girl were probably concieved around the time he came up with State Of Shock back in '83.

Little Susie and Be Not Always were written in 1979 while he was recording Off The Wall, on the Destiny Tour AND planning and doing demos for Triumph. They were in the same notebook as You Not Me (the original version of This Had To Be) and Lovely One

The Way You Make Me Feel (then Hot Fever), Speed Demon, and Smooth Criminal were all demoed in 1985 (Roger Troutman worked on these sessions along with John Barnes)

Another Part Of Me was recorded in 1985 with John Barnes coproducing, but as we know, remixed for Bad. Matter of fact, John doesn't even get a production credit on the Bad version, even though all the 1987 mix is just a remix neutral

Earth Song goes as far back as June 1988

Heal The World, Black Or White, Who Is It, Will You Be There, Keep The Faith, andDangerous were all concieved in 1988-89

Superfly Sister and They Don't Care About Us were conceived in 1990

Blood On The Dancefloor and Ghost are from 1990-91

I wrote all this without looking at reference notes or books. Just off the top of the brain lol

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Reply #405 posted 11/14/11 11:37pm

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Yeah I was just about to ask how on earth you remember all this? lol people say that to me about MJ all the time, but you have me beat...and I thought Who Is It and Black or White were written right after the Bad album was completed

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Reply #406 posted 11/15/11 12:32am

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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

A lot of MJ's songs were recorded years before being officially released

Wanna Be Startin Something - 1978

Dirty Diana - 1983

Liberian Girl - 1983

Another Part of Me - 1985

Stranger in Moscow - 1993

Black or White - 1986/87

They Don't Care About Us - Recorded as early as 1990

Earth Song - 1989/90

nod

He'd sit on tracks and keep working on them until the right time

Michael and the brothers were writing songs back in 1973-75 at Hayvenhurst but Motown wasn't letting them release anything, so who knows how long he sat on a song like Blues Away or Do What You Wanna

He wrote Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' back in 1978-79 but held it from Quincy because it wasn't quite right. He finally played it for Q, Rod, and Greg Philliganes when Thriller came

Dirty Diana and Liberian Girl were probably concieved around the time he came up with State Of Shock back in '83.

Little Susie and Be Not Always were written in 1979 while he was recording Off The Wall, on the Destiny Tour AND planning and doing demos for Triumph. They were in the same notebook as You Not Me (the original version of This Had To Be) and Lovely One

The Way You Make Me Feel (then Hot Fever), Speed Demon, and Smooth Criminal were all demoed in 1985 (Roger Troutman worked on these sessions along with John Barnes)

Another Part Of Me was recorded in 1985 with John Barnes coproducing, but as we know, remixed for Bad. Matter of fact, John doesn't even get a production credit on the Bad version, even though all the 1987 mix is just a remix neutral

Earth Song goes as far back as June 1988

Heal The World, Black Or White, Who Is It, Will You Be There, Keep The Faith, andDangerous were all concieved in 1988-89

Superfly Sister and They Don't Care About Us were conceived in 1990

Blood On The Dancefloor and Ghost are from 1990-91

I wrote all this without looking at reference notes or books. Just off the top of the brain lol

Lord knows The Jacksons (as a group) are sitting on so many records written by them that are unreleased. I wonder if they sing them daily lol .. Imagine them grocery shopping or chillin while humming "Slipped Away" or "That Girl"

I think State of Shock goes as far back as 1981. I read that he wanted to put that on the Thriller album but due to MJ and Freddie's schedules, they rejected the idea

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Reply #407 posted 11/15/11 12:37am

alphastreet

Let's get serious (no pun intended) those brothers don't give a shit about music and haven't in decades. I highly doubt they are humming or writing anything. And don't bring up that mock reality show to defend them. They don't need a reality show to entertain us with their drama and freakshow.

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Reply #408 posted 11/15/11 12:44am

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Yeah I was just about to ask how on earth you remember all this? lol people say that to me about MJ all the time, but you have me beat...and I thought Who Is It and Black or White were written right after the Bad album was completed

Well "Who Is It" was written after the Bad album was complete since Bad was released in 87 but "Black or White" was rumored to be titled "Get into the Groove" and was a simple click track during the Bad recording session.

This is what Michael said about creating new songs and not releasing them. He said this during his 1984 Chicago Deposition when they played unreleased records like "Thank You For Life" and "Why Can't I Be?"

I write all the time. I have so many songs, and another song will come along and beat it out; not that those aren't good enough to release because I am going to do those in the future but it's just I get more excited about the next one and then the next one.

That goes for the songs Bboy and myself mentioned.

MJ also mentioned songs he recorded that he felt were "stronger" than the records on Thriller

Quincy wanted me to write a song for the movie with Richard Pryor, "The Toy" and it got too close to my doing Thriller. So I canned it, but I did write the song and I did a demo for "The Toy"

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Reply #409 posted 11/15/11 1:21am

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Maybe Madonna heard about this Get Into The Groove lol lol That explains everyyyything wink

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Reply #410 posted 11/15/11 4:44am

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alphastreet said:

kellistarr120 said:

His voice is amazing on this song. When I first heard it, I thought it was from a much earlier recording, but then knew it wan't since Michael is supposed to be current recordings. Anyway, he sounds so sweet.

Ahh, I see, it was an earlier record!

[Edited 11/14/11 21:36pm]

The song has such a BeeGees feel to it doesn't it?

thats what i thought!! exspecially on the we are forever(etc) harmonies.

i absolutly LOVE this record, his voice is so beautiful.

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Reply #411 posted 11/15/11 5:43am

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And then there's Buffalo Bill that was written and recorded in 1983. MJ said it was going to be a hit. Frank Dileo said in Rolling Stone it was going to be another dance floor hit. It was meant for Victory. Then reworked for BAD. And then it never gets released. How could a song be so hyped up and never be released?!?! Proof it was one thing to the next.

And how many times has Don't Be Messin' been reworked on? That's another...

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Reply #412 posted 11/15/11 7:29am

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As part of my current travels I'm doing Disney for a few days, and you know the first thing I did was Captain EO. Was great to see it again after so long. Was great to see so many people in EO t-shirts. Took me back to when I saw first time as a kid and I still have the original t-shirt and poster from its first release.
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Reply #413 posted 11/15/11 8:00am

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INVESTING | 11/14/2011 @ 6:24PM |1,330 views
Sony-EMI Deal Reunites Jackson 5 Songs With Michael Jackson

In the years after Michael Jackson became an international superstar, the song “I Want You Back” took on a new, reflexive sort of meaning for him.

Flush with cash from the stratospheric success of his solo career, Jackson thought seriously about buying the publishing rights to some of the songs he’d recorded years earlier as a member of the Jackson 5–including “I Want You Back,” one of hundreds in Motown’s Jobete catalog, then owned by the legendary Berry Gordy and his sister. Despite serious interest from Jackson, who was “like a son” to Gordy, the music mogul sold a 50% stake in the catalog to EMI for $132 million in 1997.

But dreams often take a lifetime to achieve, and the King of Pop seems to have realized this one posthumously. On Friday, a Sony-led team of investors purchased EMI’s entire publishing catalog for $2.2 billion. The group includes billionaire David Geffen, the Blackstone Group’s GSO Capital Partners LP, and none other than the estate of Michael Jackson (its stake is nested within Sony’s 38% share of EMI, according to sources close to deal.

The move makes sense for reasons beyond just the sentimental. Michael Jackson’s estate still co-owns the separate Sony/ATV publishing catalog in a joint venture with Sony; that company, headed by former EMI chief Marty Bandier, will administer the newly-acquired EMI assets on behalf of the investors.

Still, the reunion is little more than a drop in the financial bucket. Because Sony/ATV will soon begin receiving administrative fees from the EMI catalog’s new owners, its own value is likely north of $2 billion as well.

As for Jackson, his estate has raked in half a billion dollars since his death two and a half years ago. And though the King of Pop’s posthumous concert flick was called This Is It, he’s just getting started from a posthumous earnings perspective. Jackson’s Immortal World Tour, a partnership with Cirque du Soleil, is grossing $2.4 million a night; plans call for over 100 shows a year for each of the next three years.

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sit...l-jackson/
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Reply #414 posted 11/15/11 9:46am

alphastreet

dm3857 said:

alphastreet said:

The song has such a BeeGees feel to it doesn't it?

thats what i thought!! exspecially on the we are forever(etc) harmonies.

i absolutly LOVE this record, his voice is so beautiful.

YES!!! I heard that too smile And the 'you know that I'll always love you' part. It reminds me of How Deep Is Your Love

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Reply #415 posted 11/15/11 10:04am

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And then there's Buffalo Bill that was written and recorded in 1983. MJ said it was going to be a hit. Frank Dileo said in Rolling Stone it was going to be another dance floor hit. It was meant for Victory. Then reworked for BAD. And then it never gets released. How could a song be so hyped up and never be released?!?! Proof it was one thing to the next.

And how many times has Don't Be Messin' been reworked on? That's another...

Buffalo Bill really needs to be released in it's original 1983 form and so does Don't Be Messin Around (which was recorded in 1982 for Thriller). The estate is sitting on a shit load of hits and they just don't know it.

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Reply #416 posted 11/15/11 10:11am

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Would love to hear anything completed and released. Especially on the Bad re-release. Everything to have come out of that era is magic.

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Reply #417 posted 11/15/11 10:12am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Derek1984 said:

And then there's Buffalo Bill that was written and recorded in 1983. MJ said it was going to be a hit. Frank Dileo said in Rolling Stone it was going to be another dance floor hit. It was meant for Victory. Then reworked for BAD. And then it never gets released. How could a song be so hyped up and never be released?!?! Proof it was one thing to the next.

And how many times has Don't Be Messin' been reworked on? That's another...

Buffalo Bill really needs to be released in it's original 1983 form and so does Don't Be Messin Around (which was recorded in 1982 for Thriller). The estate is sitting on a shit load of hits and they just don't know it.

Forget them being hits, just put them on a CD and give 'em to us lol

Shit they could put the songs on cassette tapes and hand them over in a musty ass box for all I care lol

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Reply #418 posted 11/15/11 10:12am

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alphastreet said:

Would love to hear anything completed and released. Especially on the Bad re-release. Everything to have come out of that era is magic.

1977-1993 is all I want

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Reply #419 posted 11/15/11 10:13am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

alphastreet said:

Would love to hear anything completed and released. Especially on the Bad re-release. Everything to have come out of that era is magic.

1977-1993 is all I want

I want everything too, Bad & Dangerous works came out the best though, and yeah I'm also curious about Buffalo Bill. I was really feeling the tracks in 2001-2002 that came out of those periods.

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