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Thread started 08/15/11 9:41pm

Harlepolis

Chaka Khan - "What Am I Missing"

Masterjam's crown and saving grace IMO....

The song sounds personal, I'm curious to know what inspired it, the moody vibe could've easily fit the "Ask Rufus" or even "Street Player" album.

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Reply #1 posted 08/15/11 9:44pm

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Agreed! Masterjam isn't as bad as folks make it out to be, but Quincy dropped the ball. This cut showed there was still alot of promise in the groove of Chaka and Rufus.

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Reply #2 posted 08/15/11 9:51pm

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silverchild said:

Agreed! Masterjam isn't as bad as folks make it out to be, but Quincy dropped the ball. This cut showed there was still alot of promise in the groove of Chaka and Rufus.

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Reply #3 posted 08/15/11 9:51pm

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silverchild said:

Agreed! Masterjam isn't as bad as folks make it out to be, but Quincy dropped the ball. This cut showed there was still alot of promise in the groove of Chaka and Rufus.

He wore hisself thin, between MJ's Off The Wall, George Benson's Give Me The Night and the work he was laying for The Dude, you know Masterjam will end up with the short end of the stick lol

That being said, I enjoy it more these days than before, although I prefer Camouflage over it(even though I'll get the side eye for saying this lurking lol).

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Reply #4 posted 08/15/11 11:28pm

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I'll take 'Masterjam' over 'Off The Wall" ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Frankly, I never cared for the latter.

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Reply #5 posted 08/16/11 11:20am

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yanowha said:

I'll take 'Masterjam' over 'Off The Wall" ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Frankly, I never cared for the latter.

Me, too. The only problem I had with "Masterjam" was that Chaka wasn't showing up for some of the sessions, therefore, Tony ended up with far too many of the lead vocals. Other than that, I thought Chaka sounded as great as ever.

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Reply #6 posted 08/16/11 3:09pm

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Harlepolis said:

silverchild said:

Agreed! Masterjam isn't as bad as folks make it out to be, but Quincy dropped the ball. This cut showed there was still alot of promise in the groove of Chaka and Rufus.

He wore hisself thin, between MJ's Off The Wall, George Benson's Give Me The Night and the work he was laying for The Dude, you know Masterjam will end up with the short end of the stick lol

That being said, I enjoy it more these days than before, although I prefer Camouflage over it(even though I'll get the side eye for saying this lurking lol).

I do like Masterjams, but I think I 've lived with it and it grew on me. But, I think Camouflage is a good album that get gets hated on.

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Reply #7 posted 08/16/11 3:23pm

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yanowha said:

I'll take 'Masterjam' over 'Off The Wall" ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Frankly, I never cared for the latter.

The main difference is that Off The Wall is nearly uncategorized and unparalleled when it comes to the production and musical value of it. That why it remains one of MJ and Quincy's finest moments. Masterjam, on the other hand, was stuck in that disco rut that was getting way played out by '79. Chaka did her thing, but the production was too repetitive and pedestrian. It sucked out those trademark classic Rufus grooves.

To each his own...perhaps! lol

[Edited 8/16/11 15:25pm]

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Reply #8 posted 08/16/11 3:40pm

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The main difference is your perception. Nothing more.

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Reply #9 posted 08/16/11 3:41pm

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yanowha said:

The main difference is your perception. Nothing more.

That's true too! lol

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Reply #10 posted 08/16/11 3:45pm

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silverchild said:

yanowha said:

I'll take 'Masterjam' over 'Off The Wall" ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Frankly, I never cared for the latter.

The main difference is that Off The Wall is nearly uncategorized and unparalleled when it comes to the production and musical value of it. That why it remains one of MJ and Quincy's finest moments. Masterjam, on the other hand, was stuck in that disco rut that was getting way played out by '79. Chaka did her thing, but the production was too repetitive and pedestrian. It sucked out those trademark classic Rufus grooves.

To each his own...perhaps! lol

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Yep, Off The Wall endured time and still sounds youthful and fresh, botox free and everythang. Unlike "Masterjam".

Another thing, and I don't know if its how the album was mixed or how it was produced, but I didn't like how Chaka's voice got buried in the mix in some of the songs.

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Reply #11 posted 08/16/11 7:37pm

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The vs. mentality has affected even this thread... lol

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Reply #12 posted 08/16/11 7:47pm

Timmy84

It's not lost that brother Mark and sister Yvette (aka Chaka) wrote this. cool

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Reply #13 posted 08/16/11 8:34pm

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Harlepolis said:

Masterjam's crown and saving grace IMO....

No love for this tune...



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Reply #14 posted 08/17/11 6:06am

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Harlepolis said:

silverchild said:

Agreed! Masterjam isn't as bad as folks make it out to be, but Quincy dropped the ball. This cut showed there was still alot of promise in the groove of Chaka and Rufus.

He wore hisself thin, between MJ's Off The Wall, George Benson's Give Me The Night and the work he was laying for The Dude, you know Masterjam will end up with the short end of the stick lol

That being said, I enjoy it more these days than before

Masterjam is one of those albums that should have been amazing but for some reason,it falls flat.The first single "Do You Love What You Feel" is excellent but the other tunes don't really stand out.The music sounds like it's played by a bunch of anonymous studio musicians and on a few songs,Chaka's mighty vocals are buried in the mix.

I agree that Quincy wore himself thin.I think he saved his best ideas for Off The Wall.

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Reply #15 posted 08/17/11 6:12am

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Harlepolis said:

silverchild said:

The main difference is that Off The Wall is nearly uncategorized and unparalleled when it comes to the production and musical value of it. That why it remains one of MJ and Quincy's finest moments. Masterjam, on the other hand, was stuck in that disco rut that was getting way played out by '79. Chaka did her thing, but the production was too repetitive and pedestrian. It sucked out those trademark classic Rufus grooves.

To each his own...perhaps! lol

Yep, Off The Wall endured time and still sounds youthful and fresh, botox free and everythang. Unlike "Masterjam".

Another thing, and I don't know if its how the album was mixed or how it was produced, but I didn't like how Chaka's voice got buried in the mix in some of the songs.

Yep,that's one thing that I notice when I listen to this album.Chaka's vocals aren't mixed properly on several tracks! On this album,Quincy took away elements of the classic 'Rufus sound' in favor of a pedestrian disco sound.

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Reply #16 posted 08/17/11 11:19am

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Harlepolis said:

Yep, Off The Wall endured time and still sounds youthful and fresh, botox free and everythang. Unlike "Masterjam".

Another thing, and I don't know if its how the album was mixed or how it was produced, but I didn't like how Chaka's voice got buried in the mix in some of the songs.

Yep,that's one thing that I notice when I listen to this album.Chaka's vocals aren't mixed properly on several tracks! On this album,Quincy took away elements of the classic 'Rufus sound' in favor of a pedestrian disco sound.

Just like he did for Donna Summer's album lol

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Reply #17 posted 08/17/11 11:32am

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It's not lost that brother Mark and sister Yvette (aka Chaka) wrote this. cool

Ya know what? Its safe to say she's one of the most underrated lyricists ever, to me she should've put more weight on her songwriting as opposed to hire other writers, most of the stuff she wrote are on point and hit home.

I'm talking about somebody who wrote "Egyptian Song/Earth Song" now, it doesn't get more personal than that.

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Reply #18 posted 08/17/11 11:42am

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Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:

It's not lost that brother Mark and sister Yvette (aka Chaka) wrote this. cool

Ya know what? Its safe to say she's one of the most underrated lyricists ever, to me she should've put more weight on her songwriting as opposed to hire other writers, most of the stuff she wrote are on point and hit home.

I'm talking about somebody who wrote "Egyptian Song/Earth Song" now, it doesn't get more personal than that.

Exactly. She's a deep writer...

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Reply #19 posted 08/17/11 3:27pm

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SoulAlive said:

Yep,that's one thing that I notice when I listen to this album.Chaka's vocals aren't mixed properly on several tracks! On this album,Quincy took away elements of the classic 'Rufus sound' in favor of a pedestrian disco sound.

Just like he did for Donna Summer's album lol

I actually like his production of the Donna Summer album....even if it was basically just a dress rehearsal for Thriller lol

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Reply #20 posted 08/17/11 3:31pm

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Timmy84 said:

Just like he did for Donna Summer's album lol

I actually like his production of the Donna Summer album....even if it was basically just a dress rehearsal for Thriller lol

That's why Donna HATED it. evillol

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Reply #21 posted 08/17/11 3:52pm

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SoulAlive said:

I actually like his production of the Donna Summer album....even if it was basically just a dress rehearsal for Thriller lol

That's why Donna HATED it. evillol

No,I think she was just disappointed that her previous album I'm A Rainbow was rejected by Geffen.For the first time in her career,she was being told who to work with and what kind of music to make.She had to give up alot of control.I think the album is fantastic lol

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Reply #22 posted 08/17/11 3:52pm

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Timmy84 said:

That's why Donna HATED it. evillol

No,I think she was just disappointed that her previous album I'm A Rainbow was rejected by Geffen.For the first time in her career,she was being told who to work with and what kind of music to make.She had to give up alot of control.I think the album is fantastic lol

Nah I think she was pissed. wink

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