Unholyalliance said:

alphastreet said:

I know MJ fans where I live that are into the old stuff too, and I don't just mean the popular singles, I don't count that and there's people here like bboy87 that know their shit, don't lie

What? I thought that I was responding to the fact that whatsgoingon was calling most of MJ's post-Bad fandom crazy and stat obsessed while referring to most of MJ's pre-Bad era fandom sane?!?!?!

I was probably adding on to what you were saying. This poster acts a lot like someone who used to post on KOP years ago and when someone proves what she is saying is wrong, she ignores them and responds to other people by saying the same thing over and over. Same story here.

Unholyalliance said:

whatsgoingon said:

Most fans of my generation do not give a toss about silly titles. Fact. We all have a way how we want to remember MJ, I know most people from my generation seem to want to remember him pre-bad or even pre-Thriller. Those fans who tend to remember MJ from the Bad era onwards seem more hell bent in remembering him as the King of Pop. They are more obsesse with record figures and other artists not breaking his records & for some reasons they think that validates his status, when it doesn't really mean anything. With the rise of the King of Pop came the rise of Wacko Jacko, it just goes to show titles doesn't exempt you from ridicule.

There we go.

In general though, I just feel weird making such statements, because I'm not sure. I am pretty sure that if someone took the 'King of Pop' title from him...even some older fans I know of would have an issue with that.

When I was growing up he was not known as the "King of Pop" , he was just "Michael Jackson" we didn't demand some title to appreciate him and recognise his talents. Don't forget the "King of Pop" title, whether it was self-proclaimed or not, came about 20 yrs into a very, long and sucdessful career. Infact it came about after he had reached his peak, creatively.

babybugz said:

And I can’t say that everybody that doesn’t agree with things pertaining to Michael is a troll.

This I agree with. There is a difference with being a troll and someone just having strong opinions. As much as I disagree with Imaginative...it doesn't, necessarily, make him a troll even if he does like come in here troll somewhat as they are condescending in their posts and somewhat hypocritical at times. I mean, many of you guys complain about how crazy MJ fans get when it comes to differing opinions. Yet, at the same time, you can't be ready to stamp troll on someone simply, because their opinions are different.

I just say...if you don't agree with the current discussion, just opt out for a bit. I mean, when you guys are having big hot debates about his personal life and other stuff I'm not particularly fond of, I don't tell any of you to 'shut up', 'stop talking about this', 'this discussion is stupid stop talking about it.'

I just wait until it's done with or slowed down and continue to post as normal.

Imaginative said:

Came across this. Of course, we all know that Jackson calculatedly coined the term, "King of Pop," personally. It definitely had some irony by the time he died, when he really hadn't been musically relevant for at least 15 years.

http://blogs.telegraph.co...or-of-pop/

If Michael Jackson was the King, Prince is the Emperor of Pop

Prince’s appearance at Hop Farm festival was predictably greeted as a triumph. “’There is no greater performer alive today,’ enthused singer Beverly Knight. I think she might be right. Indeed, he may be the most extravagantly multi-talented performer in the history of pop.

Despite not having had a hit single since The Most Beautiful Girl In The World in 1994, Prince consistently remains one of the most popular live attractions on the big gig circuit, as his 21 night residency at the 20,000 seater O2 Arena in London in 2008 demonstrated.

There was a time in the Eighties when Prince was held up as a rival for Michael Jackson’s pop crown, but even then real music fans knew there was no comparison. If Jackson could call himself the King, Prince was an Emperor. In a business that emphasises the front man, Prince had the talents to fulfil every single performing role. He sings like a soul dream, dances like a gymnast, plays every instrument in the recording studio including phenomenal rock and funk guitar, florid and fanciful keyboards and snappy, groovy drumming, writes and produces startling pop music blending rock and dance forms, and marshals all of those skills live by drilling bands of virtuoso musicians into tightly rehearsed ensembles that cross the visceral appeal of heavy rock with the nimble versatility of jazz and the showily dramatic routines of classic soul. Imagine Elvis Presley crossed with James Brown crossed with Jimi Hendrix crossed with Stevie Wonder … with a bit of Lennon & McCartney on top. When the wider world got its first proper glimpse of all of that in Purple Rain in 1984, the effect was electrifying. By bringing together the best of everything pop music could conjure up in one package, Prince really raised the bar for pop stardom. I can’t think of any individual artist who has been able to reach the same heights.

Somehow, he never maintained that purple pop patch, but its hard to explain why, except that he is perhaps too weird, and operates too much on his own terms, and maybe Prince just has too much music in him to be digested by ordinary mortals. Frankly, none but the most dedicated Prince fan could hope to keep up with a creative output that has reached somewhere in the region of 35 original studio albums (many doubles and triples). But live, dipping into his back catalogue and bending it all out of shape with the imagination, exuberance and masterful technique of a great showman who really comes to into his own on stage, audiences know they are in for a treat, even if you never know quite what you are going to hear.

My favourite Prince song: When Doves Cry

Little Red Corvette in 1983 was the first Prince song to catch my attention but When Doves Cry blew my mind a year later. It’s such a weird and original track, sparse and propulsive, with heavy drums and an odd, poetic lyric, the monotone melody building into an emotionally explosive screaming guitar and vocal pay off, followed for no discernible reason by a florid quasi-classical keyboard. I love everything on the Purple Rain album, it set a new benchmark for pop music.

Great article, but with the exception of title, it doesn't have anything to do with Michael

Imaginative said:

alphastreet said:

Imaginative, it's awesome Michael has 13 number 1's, plus We Are The World and the 4 Jackson 5 hits, which would be 18 times, though I do know you're talking about just his solo career

Glad you're pleased. Curious how many of those 18 songs he wrote.

As I said above, if we add group work and duets, McCartney goes up to 35! A little less than double what Jackson could manage to muster up! I didn't think it fair to do so, but being that you brought it up... !

You guys can keep the "King of Pop" title. I'm fine with the undisputed truth.

[Edited 7/5/11 12:51pm]

of the 13 that topped the Hot 100, he wrote 10 of them

babybugz said:

I think we should all appreciate Michael in all Era’s I have my favorites but he has gems on each album. He was an artist, artist evolves and he did.

but they don't hear you, though

bboy87 said:

Imaginative said:

Came across this. Of course, we all know that Jackson calculatedly coined the term, "King of Pop," personally. It definitely had some irony by the time he died, when he really hadn't been musically relevant for at least 15 years.

http://blogs.telegraph.co...or-of-pop/

If Michael Jackson was the King, Prince is the Emperor of Pop

Prince’s appearance at Hop Farm festival was predictably greeted as a triumph. “’There is no greater performer alive today,’ enthused singer Beverly Knight. I think she might be right. Indeed, he may be the most extravagantly multi-talented performer in the history of pop.

Despite not having had a hit single since The Most Beautiful Girl In The World in 1994, Prince consistently remains one of the most popular live attractions on the big gig circuit, as his 21 night residency at the 20,000 seater O2 Arena in London in 2008 demonstrated.

There was a time in the Eighties when Prince was held up as a rival for Michael Jackson’s pop crown, but even then real music fans knew there was no comparison. If Jackson could call himself the King, Prince was an Emperor. In a business that emphasises the front man, Prince had the talents to fulfil every single performing role. He sings like a soul dream, dances like a gymnast, plays every instrument in the recording studio including phenomenal rock and funk guitar, florid and fanciful keyboards and snappy, groovy drumming, writes and produces startling pop music blending rock and dance forms, and marshals all of those skills live by drilling bands of virtuoso musicians into tightly rehearsed ensembles that cross the visceral appeal of heavy rock with the nimble versatility of jazz and the showily dramatic routines of classic soul. Imagine Elvis Presley crossed with James Brown crossed with Jimi Hendrix crossed with Stevie Wonder … with a bit of Lennon & McCartney on top. When the wider world got its first proper glimpse of all of that in Purple Rain in 1984, the effect was electrifying. By bringing together the best of everything pop music could conjure up in one package, Prince really raised the bar for pop stardom. I can’t think of any individual artist who has been able to reach the same heights.

Somehow, he never maintained that purple pop patch, but its hard to explain why, except that he is perhaps too weird, and operates too much on his own terms, and maybe Prince just has too much music in him to be digested by ordinary mortals. Frankly, none but the most dedicated Prince fan could hope to keep up with a creative output that has reached somewhere in the region of 35 original studio albums (many doubles and triples). But live, dipping into his back catalogue and bending it all out of shape with the imagination, exuberance and masterful technique of a great showman who really comes to into his own on stage, audiences know they are in for a treat, even if you never know quite what you are going to hear.

My favourite Prince song: When Doves Cry

Little Red Corvette in 1983 was the first Prince song to catch my attention but When Doves Cry blew my mind a year later. It’s such a weird and original track, sparse and propulsive, with heavy drums and an odd, poetic lyric, the monotone melody building into an emotionally explosive screaming guitar and vocal pay off, followed for no discernible reason by a florid quasi-classical keyboard. I love everything on the Purple Rain album, it set a new benchmark for pop music.

Great article, but with the exception of title, it doesn't have anything to do with Michael

You should have just pass by it my friend …

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I think we should all appreciate Michael in all Era’s I have my favorites but he has gems on each album. He was an artist, artist evolves and he did.

but they don't hear you, though

And don't give a fuck on top of that.

But I guess it's kinda like Prince, either you like some or don't like some, there's something enjoyable about Michael in all the eras...

If people don't wanna be reasonable and argue, just let them air it out, it'll fall on deaf ears anyway...

[Edited 7/5/11 15:01pm]

bboy87 said:

Imaginative said:

Glad you're pleased. Curious how many of those 18 songs he wrote.

As I said above, if we add group work and duets, McCartney goes up to 35! A little less than double what Jackson could manage to muster up! I didn't think it fair to do so, but being that you brought it up... !

You guys can keep the "King of Pop" title. I'm fine with the undisputed truth.

[Edited 7/5/11 12:51pm]

of the 13 that topped the Hot 100, he wrote 10 of them

I counted 9, was the 10th one Say Say Say? I wasn't sure about that one, I forgot.

whatsgoingon said:

Unholyalliance said:

There we go.

In general though, I just feel weird making such statements, because I'm not sure. I am pretty sure that if someone took the 'King of Pop' title from him...even some older fans I know of would have an issue with that.

When I was growing up he was not known as the "King of Pop" , he was just "Michael Jackson" we didn't demand some title to appreciate him and recognise his talents. Don't forget the "King of Pop" title, whether it was self-proclaimed or not, came about 20 yrs into a very, long and sucdessful career. Infact it came about after he had reached his peak, creatively.

Read my other posts, we know. I didn't know of any King of Pop title either and I had known of him for years from afar and thought he was cool and saw he was celebrated, and then I knew of it in the HIStory era cause of a poster I bought.

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I think we should all appreciate Michael in all Era’s I have my favorites but he has gems on each album. He was an artist, artist evolves and he did.

but they don't hear you, though

I could care less just saying but I’m rarely in here anyway one of the main reasons why I stay out. That’s why I was saying the thread has gone downhill for a while.

alphastreet said:

whatsgoingon said:

When I was growing up he was not known as the "King of Pop" , he was just "Michael Jackson" we didn't demand some title to appreciate him and recognise his talents. Don't forget the "King of Pop" title, whether it was self-proclaimed or not, came about 20 yrs into a very, long and sucdessful career. Infact it came about after he had reached his peak, creatively.

Read my other posts, we know. I didn't know of any King of Pop title either and I had known of him for years from afar and thought he was cool and saw he was celebrated, and then I knew of it in the HIStory era cause of a poster I bought.

That is still different. When I was growing up, it was during the Jacksons/OTW era. The title hadn't been coined not by elizabeth Taylor, Michael or who ever was suppose to have coined the title. but his fans at the time didn't think any less of him.

Another reason why why titles like KOP don't mean anything, is because tomorrow they can be calling some medicore artist that just happened to be the "in thing" King of PoP. They were calling Justine Bierber the King of the Pop the other day, it's such a filmsy title that doesn't mean anything.

Unholyalliance said:

babybugz said:

And I can’t say that everybody that doesn’t agree with things pertaining to Michael is a troll.

This I agree with. There is a difference with being a troll and someone just having strong opinions. As much as I disagree with Imaginative...it doesn't, necessarily, make him a troll even if he does like come in here troll somewhat as they are condescending in their posts and somewhat hypocritical at times. I mean, many of you guys complain about how crazy MJ fans get when it comes to differing opinions. Yet, at the same time, you can't be ready to stamp troll on someone simply, because their opinions are different.

I just say...if you don't agree with the current discussion, just opt out for a bit. I mean, when you guys are having big hot debates about his personal life and other stuff I'm not particularly fond of, I don't tell any of you to 'shut up', 'stop talking about this', 'this discussion is stupid stop talking about it.'

I just wait until it's done with or slowed down and continue to post as normal.

Thank you both, sincerely and with no intended sarcasm.

While those who are quick to label me "troll" who is here simply to bash Jackson, this is not the case. On the contrary, I love the J5, as well as his first two albums with Quincy Jones. (Admittedly, I prefer the timelessness of Off the Wall to the now somewhat dated sounding Thriller. Do I need to add "IMO," or is that implied?) I do think that Bad was a very calculated and formulaic effort to duplicate Thriller (almost track-for-track), and while it contained some catchy singles, it really treaded absolutely no new ground for Jackson as an artist. Given that and the the time between the two albums, I see it as a very disappointing follow-up.

IMO, after Bad, it was pretty much downhill from there, and the sad reality of it is, beginning here, his mental illness took a front seat to his very sporadic musical output. To most, this is evident. This is one of the most tragic things about Jackson's life, is that to me, he wasted his talent for the last 20 or so years of his life. Jackos say that he took his time between albums to make them incredible, but the truth is all but the die-hards will agree that he never matched Thriller, or his work pre-Thriller. I'm confident that the general public doesn't really know any of his album tracks outside of the singles, and that this will be exagerated by time. (Compared to other artists of his caliber who have albums tracks, b-sides, that are regarded as classics) Most other artists with his level of talent released an album every year of material and still maintained high-quality. Prince didn't rest on his laurels after Purple Rain, but from my perspective this is exactly what Jackson did post-Thriller.

Regarding his personal life, I have no reason to believe he sexually abused children. However, I firmly believe that his own children were victims of his mental illness. I think if any other parent was photographed dangling thier infant over a balcony, Social Services immediately would take all of their children away. I do wonder how that child will process that incident as an adult, seeing this photograph of their own parent so giddily and happily dangling this infant over a balcony. As I stated in the last thread, infants know only two natural fears; fear of falling and fear of loud noises. He subjected "Blanket" to both with one horrifying incident. Of course, the children as adults will also have severe abondonment issues to deal with, as any adult whose sole parent commits suicide would naturally have.

Therefore, I think his death was a good thing... a blessing even. It finally freed him of his mental illness, and perhaps gave the children a slightly better shot at normalcy. At the very least, it freed them of abuse.

I don't understand why these Jackson fans can't simply love his art while at the same time acknowledging the sad truths about his life. I love John Lennon, but will freely admit that he was venomous when drunk and had a horrible temper. One of my favorite writers is Roald Dahl, even though he was an unapologetic anti-semite and I am of Jewish heritage. As I stated earlier, I love the films of Woody Allen, yet am able to aknowledge that it is very odd that he married his once step-child.

If this board is any indication, Jackson fans seem to lack this ability.

[Edited 7/5/11 15:26pm]

alphastreet said:

bboy87 said:

of the 13 that topped the Hot 100, he wrote 10 of them

I counted 9, was the 10th one Say Say Say? I wasn't sure about that one, I forgot.

• Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough
• Billie Jean
• Beat It
• Say, Say, Say (co-written with Paul)
• We Are the World
• I Just Can't Stop Loving You
• Bad
• The Way You Make Me Feel
• Dirty Diana
• Black or White

Yeah it's 9. "Ben", "Rock With You", "Say Say Say" and "You Are Not Alone" were written by others.

@ me putting MITM in there.

And I thought it was just songs solely credited to him but in that case yeah it WAS ten.

[Edited 7/5/11 15:47pm]

Timmy84 said:

alphastreet said:

I counted 9, was the 10th one Say Say Say? I wasn't sure about that one, I forgot.

• Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough
• Billie Jean
• Beat It
• I Just Can't Stop Loving You
• Bad
• The Way You Make Me Feel
• Man in the Mirror
• Dirty Diana
• Black or White

Yeah it's 9. "Ben", "Rock With You", "Say Say Say" and "You Are Not Alone" were written by others.

Say Say Say was written by Michael and Paul

I just did a tally of his chart stats:

as a solo artist, collaborator, and as a member of The Jackson 5/Jacksons

Billboard Hot 100

63 Top 40 singles

40 Top 10

18 #1s

Billboard R&B

73 Top 40

58 Top 10

21 #1s

Billboard 200

9 #1 albums

Billboard R&B Albums

8 #1 albums

Billboard Dance Club Play and Single Sales

19 Top 10 singles

12 #1s

Billboard Music Home Video

Making Michael Jackson's Thriller- 8 weeks at #1

Moonwalker- 22 weeks at #1

The Legend Continues- 2 weeks at #1

Dangerous The Short Films- #4

Video Greatest Hits HIStory- 7 weeks at #1

HIStory Vol. 2- 2 weeks at #1

Number Ones- 14 weeks at #1

The One- #8

Live In Bucharest- 5 weeks at #1

Live In Japan (bootleg)- #6

Vision- #2

this is what happens when you're home bored and cleaning the house

Timmy84 said:

alphastreet said:

I counted 9, was the 10th one Say Say Say? I wasn't sure about that one, I forgot.

• Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough
• Billie Jean
• Beat It
• I Just Can't Stop Loving You
• Bad
• The Way You Make Me Feel
• Man in the Mirror
• Dirty Diana
• Black or White

Yeah it's 9. "Ben", "Rock With You", "Say Say Say" and "You Are Not Alone" were written by others.

I think Man In The Mirror was written by Siedah...But Michael co-wrote We Are the World!!

Emancipation89 said:

Timmy84 said:

• Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough
• Billie Jean
• Beat It
• I Just Can't Stop Loving You
• Bad
• The Way You Make Me Feel
• Man in the Mirror
• Dirty Diana
• Black or White

Yeah it's 9. "Ben", "Rock With You", "Say Say Say" and "You Are Not Alone" were written by others.

I think Man In The Mirror was written by Siedah...But Michael co-wrote We Are the World!!

Siedah and Glen Ballard (who also wrote the Thriller outtake Niteline) wrote Man In The Mirror

Michael and Lionel wrote We Are The World

bboy87 said:

Emancipation89 said:

I think Man In The Mirror was written by Siedah...But Michael co-wrote We Are the World!!

Siedah and Glen Ballard (who also wrote the Thriller outtake Niteline) wrote Man In The Mirror

Michael and Lionel wrote We Are The World

My bad I thought it was just songs he was solely credited as a leading artist lol

[Edited 7/5/11 15:48pm]

Swa said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Well here's the record that plays at the beginning. It's called "Hot" by Roy Ayers. Funny how TWYMMF was originally called "HOT Fever"...Could the original record have sampled this? Easter egg maybe?

And mystery solved - thanks VJ.

WOW. Never knew this. Doubt it has anything to do with Hot Fever but are their any connections with MJ and Roy Ayers? My guess is it was a song MJ just happened to like.

Imaginative said:

The thread is "Discuss Anything and Everything MJ." This is exactly what I am doing. It's funny how no one really has a problem with folks being critical of Prince on a PRINCE FORUM, but if you're critical of Jackson in a "Discuss Anything and Everything MJ" board, it's "trolling."

If I could start an "Is MJ Overrated" thread, I would and people can discuss freely as they have on similar threads about Madonna, Dylan, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, etc. But as it stands, this is the only thread where Jackson can be discussed! So I am discussing him here.

I personally do think his work post Thriller was for the most part sub-par, especially in comparison to what I consider his peak. I also think he was tragically mentally ill and that, as a result his children were at the very least, orphaned.

It would seem that these opinions are not allowed anywhere on this forum, being that they are not allowed in this thread, and we cannot discuss Jackson in any other thread.

Interesting. Equally interesting and somewhat telling, is that for all of Jackson's "popularity" there is apparently no English speaking forum with high traffic dedicated to the discussion his music. So the Jackos congregate here, and chastise anyone with a differing opinion.

Yes, but if your opinion is not welcome (which it isn't) why do you keep coming here?

beginning here, his mental illness took a front seat to his very sporadic musical output.

If this board is any indication, Jackson fans seem to lack this ability.

We have that ability. We just don't want you spewing your negativity where it is not needed.

Imaginative said:

alphastreet said:

tell me what a "callaboration" is

In music publishing terms, it's when a writing co-credit is registered with the copyright office. It can be one person writing the music and another writing the words. It can be several people all working together. If an artist has as much clout as Madonna or Jackson, it could be something as trivial as moving the chorus back 8 bars, or changing a single line in the lyric. There is no one enforcing how co-credits are honored. Also, percentages are not acknowledged by ASCAP or the copyright office. A compoitional co-credit is an even -split. It's a private contract between the credited writers, as to which names get regestered as writers.

Therefore the ONLY songs in which we know Jackson's true compositional contribution are songs which he wrote alone. By my count, this is 18 songs over the course of 26 years.

To remind you, I love some of Jackson's work, in particular his work up through Thriller. He is a great vocalist and dancer. Definitely the greatest "song-and-dance man" that ever lived. But at the end of the day, that's all he was; a song-and-dance man. And a tragic and mentally ill one at that.

[Edited 7/5/11 13:31pm]

I think there have been many many songs that have been written by MJ and recorded but never released...

And this is just up to Dangerous era...

smoothcriminal12 said:

Imaginative said:

The thread is "Discuss Anything and Everything MJ." This is exactly what I am doing. It's funny how no one really has a problem with folks being critical of Prince on a PRINCE FORUM, but if you're critical of Jackson in a "Discuss Anything and Everything MJ" board, it's "trolling."

If I could start an "Is MJ Overrated" thread, I would and people can discuss freely as they have on similar threads about Madonna, Dylan, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, etc. But as it stands, this is the only thread where Jackson can be discussed! So I am discussing him here.

I personally do think his work post Thriller was for the most part sub-par, especially in comparison to what I consider his peak. I also think he was tragically mentally ill and that, as a result his children were at the very least, orphaned.

It would seem that these opinions are not allowed anywhere on this forum, being that they are not allowed in this thread, and we cannot discuss Jackson in any other thread.

Interesting. Equally interesting and somewhat telling, is that for all of Jackson's "popularity" there is apparently no English speaking forum with high traffic dedicated to the discussion his music. So the Jackos congregate here, and chastise anyone with a differing opinion.

Yes, but if your opinion is not welcome (which it isn't) why do you keep coming here?

If this board is any indication, Jackson fans seem to lack this ability.

We have that ability. We just don't want you spewing your negativity where it is not needed.

Since when do you speak for all of the members of Prince.org?

I can pose a similar question: If you don't want to be exposed to such horrible negativity, why do YOU keep coming here? Isn't there a Neverland Board for you somewhere, where everyone looks at Jackson through the same rose-colored glasses you wear?

Yes, he was mentally ill. This is not really up for debate. People of sound mind and body do not take anesthesia recreationally. People who are not mentally ill do not kill themselves, especially when they are the sole parent to three young children.

Again, I reiterate.. this thread is to "DISCUSS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING MJ." Apparently, you don't have the constitution to "discuss" the "everything" and "anything" part, so it's YOU who doesn't belong.

Emancipation89 said:

Imaginative said:

In music publishing terms, it's when a writing co-credit is registered with the copyright office. It can be one person writing the music and another writing the words. It can be several people all working together. If an artist has as much clout as Madonna or Jackson, it could be something as trivial as moving the chorus back 8 bars, or changing a single line in the lyric. There is no one enforcing how co-credits are honored. Also, percentages are not acknowledged by ASCAP or the copyright office. A compoitional co-credit is an even -split. It's a private contract between the credited writers, as to which names get regestered as writers.

Therefore the ONLY songs in which we know Jackson's true compositional contribution are songs which he wrote alone. By my count, this is 18 songs over the course of 26 years.

To remind you, I love some of Jackson's work, in particular his work up through Thriller. He is a great vocalist and dancer. Definitely the greatest "song-and-dance man" that ever lived. But at the end of the day, that's all he was; a song-and-dance man. And a tragic and mentally ill one at that.

[Edited 7/5/11 13:31pm]

I think there have been many many songs that have been written by MJ and recorded but never released...

And this is just up to Dangerous era...

Outtakes are compelling when they come from prolific artists who generally create more music than they can release.

Jackson released a total of 6 albums of original material in the 30 years following Off the Wall. Given this, and the quality of material on the posthumous Michael, it seems highly unlikely that any lost classics will be unearthed.

[Edited 7/5/11 16:23pm]

Damn people move on already. People can disagree but if you think someone is a troll, ignore them, don't feed them...report that shit but don't carry it 4 f***ing pages. This is the shit that made most people leave MJ boards and come here. I don't want to move again!! I like my new home