*sigh*
Moonwalker... | |
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DSTYGE - it was just a graphic backdrop - not meant to be a physical space.
Billie Jean - the chase of the paparazzi, being able to escape them, and of course the fact MJ disappears is an allusion to the lyrics - it was a figment of the media's imagination as it never took place thus "the kid is not my son".
BAD - again the whole musical breakdown was a metaphor, all that happened was MJ stood up to the old skool crew and stood his ground. Edit out the dance sequence and you have the black and white story being told.
As for the larger story being told, it was the story of a kid from a run down neighbourhood making good. His scholarship to the "sissy private school", was seen as moving up by his old friends. Their pride at "college boy" making good turns when they feel they have been left behind, and he has changed, gone all elite on them - as alluded to with the correction of Tortoise Glasses.
BAD was based around a real story at the time of a college kid who was killed by his old friends when he returned during school break.
Smooth Criminal starts with MJ rolling up in the car (actually transforming from the car) and this was just a facet of it being part of a bigger storyline. It makes more sense to start the short film with MJ just entering the club.
Black or White - the opening scene just echoed what was on the album.
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Michael's Music was a store that sold instruments. You see them in the window. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Ugh I forgot about the intro to "Black or White". It made much sense then lol | |
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I forgot about that. Yeah it was about some college student. | |
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The major issue with MJ short films was when they were edited down from their original length to just the song - they often wouldn't make sense - eg BOW starts and you have a guy in an armchair fall into the scene. If you haven't seen the full intro you'd be like, what?!?!
I always felt they should have covered off these little things, shot an extra scene etc, to ensure the edits would work from a visual / storyline point of view.
That all said... I still think THIS is his best video.....
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^ All his HIStory videos were ON THE FUCKING POINT! | |
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LOL. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Umm...I thought that the Bad video was pretty self-explanatory.
The story was about Darryl who went to...what looked like a boarding school, probably because he was really smart. His mother isn't home, because she is probably working 2-3 jobs to pay for his ass to continue being in that school as well sending him clothes, paying her rent, and making sure she has food for him and her to eat. As for the friends, even if they were, it's always really hard for you to reconnect with people when the both of you are on two seperate paths in life. They could have been harboring some sort of resentment, because they feel that he thinks that he's better than them, because he goes to a prediminantly white school and abandoned them.
I don't remember there being any plotholes in that music video. I can't say the same for Moonwalker though. =/
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I'm going to put that info on the Michael Jackson Archives page and hopefully someone will know more "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I just think they should've fleshed out the Bad video a little longer. If it had been about 30 minutes instead of 18, I think it would've been a bit better "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Alright y'all...you made your points with the other music videos and all your discussions made sense.
Now if there was one vid I was gonna overanalyze...it would be Captain EO. Gatdamn....
Seriously...it was more coherent than most of his other music videos (beginning, middle, end)...but the script was just so damn BAD! I love the movie, don't get me wrong. But for all the people who were working on it, like Coppola and George Lucas...I expected waaaaaay better. I mean, EO is the captain of a broken down ship, leading a gang of muppets. And they say they're like the WORST battalion in space, or at least, they're not the elite. I wish I got some background on that. Like, why are they considered that sucky? What did they do?
Also, the villian (The Supreme Leader)...not well-developed. You only see her once, and I didn't get the idea that she was really a bad person aside from the fact she wasn't good-looking and was a bit bad-natured diva. I mean, if I see her beat a kid, or have a history of plundering villages and burning down towns, then yeah, she's a villian. I wish they developed her more.
And getting down to what I really needed to know...I wanted to know more about EO himself. Where'd he come from, how'd he get to be a captain, he'd he end up with his crew, etc.
The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl
"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror) "I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" | |
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I agree "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Well they had to get to Africa somehow... | |
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pshhh...talking about MJ movies not making any sense on Prince fansite?! I <3 Prince but Under the Cherry Moon was just too wacky and I didn't really get the story of the film...ugh and I bought the freaking DVD...I'd thought it was going to be a cool purple rain type of movie...silly me DX Oh and I've never seen Graffity Bridge but I've seen people complaining about that one being the most unwatchable film ever...I guess musical geniuses have a tendency to make wacky films...btw I've never seen Captain.. is it good? I'm not a fan of Moonwalker so maybe I shouldn't watch it....but if it has cool dancing to it I wanna watch it... | |
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It was a "ride/movie" and set up to be 11 minutes wrong. All disney rides are set up for high turn over. Thus, the movie uses a lot of narrative in the dialogue to propel the story along. In short, EO and his crew are the laughing stock, and this mission is their chance to prove themselves.
The villain is very much drawn in the Disney mould. She is menacing in the way she looks, speaks and acts. The fact that her world is monochromatic gives the impression of a dreary existence. Thus when EO delivers the gift of the song and transforms the evil queen in a serene beauty all the world is colourful and bright. And all done with time for song to spare.
I remember seeing EO the year it came out and enjoying it. It's not the best Disney piece by a long shot, but it was enjoyable. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Agreed. I saw it in 1994, and I remember being all in love with it. Still love it... The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl
"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror) "I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" | |
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^ this | |
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Well here's the record that plays at the beginning. It's called "Hot" by Roy Ayers. Funny how TWYMMF was originally called "HOT Fever"...Could the original record have sampled this? Easter egg maybe?
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And mystery solved - thanks VJ. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Hot's from 1985.....Hot Fever originated in 1985......
I have to find a way to access the US Library Of Congress because they have it and other unreleased songs on record
VJ, you may have to lay on your back while I go and steal the tapes "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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You know I'm all for it! Remember, I told you I'd take Katherine down if I have to! | |
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Seriously tho, VJ...why are you on your back? You're a dude, ain't ya? The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl
"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror) "I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" | |
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gotta do what i gotta do to solidify myself in this business...nothing this good ever gonna come that easy... | |
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Speaking of Hot Fever, for some reason I think the hook goes
You give me hot fever (you give me hot fever) you really turn me on (you really turn me on) (blah blah blah, yall know the rest) | |
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You work your magic then, kid.
The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl
"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror) "I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" | |
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thanks! | |
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Came across this list of unreleased music. Some of the years are off a
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W: What's A Guy Gotta Do (2000) (Michael Jackson, Pharell Williams)
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I'm gonna keep the joke I just thought of to myself "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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And Im SURE I know what you're talking about
Am I right? | |
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