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Thread started 05/21/11 7:27pm

phillymonster

Lady Gaga accused of manipulating charts

Apparently, the albums that Best Buy gives away with cell phone sales will be counted in Soundscan totals.

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Reply #1 posted 05/21/11 7:41pm

HonestMan13

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Prince did something similar with the Musicology Tour and adding a CD to the cost of a ticket. soundscan had to count them everytime he did a show as record sales. Supposedly the rules were changed to prevent artists from actually bypassing selling the CD outright.

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #2 posted 05/21/11 9:16pm

chamber

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Doesn't surprise me.

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Reply #3 posted 05/21/11 9:30pm

bashraka

More power to her. I was happy for Prince when he "gave away" the Musicology CD to fans during the Musicology Tour, because the marketing move boosted his profile in today's music marketplace. What makes Lady Gaga different is that she is a current music act, who used a similar strategy thus augmenting her sales by more traditonal selling methods like retail, etc.

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Reply #4 posted 05/21/11 9:32pm

Spinlight

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*rumblerumblerumbleThrillerTheSequelrumblerumblerumble*

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Reply #5 posted 05/21/11 10:22pm

trueiopian

Desperate.

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Reply #6 posted 05/22/11 6:07am

Zinzi

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whether its preice or her, I don't think it should count..If someone actually went out and bought the album fair enough. but it just being thrown in inclusion of other things and being sold for free doesn't count

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Reply #7 posted 05/22/11 8:19am

VoicesCarry

The Examiner is a joke. Have you read some of his other "articles"? Come on, guys - read with your brains. lol

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Reply #8 posted 05/22/11 8:36am

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Do people really concern themselves with charts anymore and who didn't think it would debut @ #1.

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Reply #9 posted 05/22/11 8:43am

Japha11

If artists and labels can think of ways for things like this to count as album sales - with tickets etc.. good for them! Like you wouldn't if you were an artist. Of course you'd want it to count.

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Reply #10 posted 05/22/11 9:53am

Timmy84

lazycrockett said:

Do people really concern themselves with charts anymore and who didn't think it would debut @ #1.

The Examiner is just a DUMB ASS SITE!

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Reply #11 posted 05/22/11 3:46pm

Zinzi

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Japha11 said:

If artists and labels can think of ways for things like this to count as album sales - with tickets etc.. good for them! Like you wouldn't if you were an artist. Of course you'd want it to count.

that's a very steryotypical statement, I'd definately only want albums to be sold off the base of it actually selling, anything else would dillute it

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Reply #12 posted 05/22/11 4:06pm

lastdecember

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Timmy84 said:

lazycrockett said:

Do people really concern themselves with charts anymore and who didn't think it would debut @ #1.

The Examiner is just a DUMB ASS SITE!

Yeah i try to stay away from anything like that, the whole thing is crazy anyway, the thing with PRINCE was not even about manipulating, it was not against the rules, after he did it however, it was, Overall i dont think that it should count unless there is an actual charge, i mean people bitched because Mariah was "manipulating" by selling the "Loverboy" single for 49 cents, i dont think a giveaway can count or at least should, but really like its been said, its going to debut at number one, she is going to sell more than Thriller, so why is there an issue about a dead business anyway?


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Reply #13 posted 05/22/11 4:17pm

musicjunky318

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She's trying to break Britney's first week sales record.

1.3 million is a hard number to topple though.

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Reply #14 posted 05/22/11 4:53pm

Timmy84

musicjunky318 said:

She's trying to break Britney's first week sales record.

1.3 million is a hard number to topple though.

I think she's going for the Eminem record (1.76 million).

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Reply #15 posted 05/22/11 4:58pm

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Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

She's trying to break Britney's first week sales record.

1.3 million is a hard number to topple though.

I think she's going for the Eminem record (1.76 million).

No way she could reach that.

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Reply #16 posted 05/22/11 5:02pm

Timmy84

musicjunky318 said:

Timmy84 said:

I think she's going for the Eminem record (1.76 million).

No way she could reach that.

She sure is trying lmao but if she sells just above 450K, then that's good.

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Reply #17 posted 05/22/11 5:07pm

lastdecember

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Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

No way she could reach that.

She sure is trying lmao but if she sells just above 450K, then that's good.

But even with that, looking at Eminems number of 1.76 for a week or whatever, the second Backstreet Boys album in 2000 sold 9.92 million copies in that year alone, i mean people need to realize that the day and age of gold and platnum are GONE, i mean there most likely is not ever going to be an album that sells 10 million ever again, and back then it was happening once twice a year at least


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Reply #18 posted 05/22/11 5:08pm

Spinlight

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lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

She sure is trying lmao but if she sells just above 450K, then that's good.

But even with that, looking at Eminems number of 1.76 for a week or whatever, the second Backstreet Boys album in 2000 sold 9.92 million copies in that year alone, i mean people need to realize that the day and age of gold and platnum are GONE, i mean there most likely is not ever going to be an album that sells 10 million ever again, and back then it was happening once twice a year at least

But The Fame sold 12 million.

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Reply #19 posted 05/22/11 5:12pm

lastdecember

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Spinlight said:

lastdecember said:

But even with that, looking at Eminems number of 1.76 for a week or whatever, the second Backstreet Boys album in 2000 sold 9.92 million copies in that year alone, i mean people need to realize that the day and age of gold and platnum are GONE, i mean there most likely is not ever going to be an album that sells 10 million ever again, and back then it was happening once twice a year at least

But The Fame sold 12 million.

worldwide, not in america, nothing is even coming close in america


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Reply #20 posted 05/22/11 5:36pm

Timmy84

Spinlight said:

lastdecember said:

But even with that, looking at Eminems number of 1.76 for a week or whatever, the second Backstreet Boys album in 2000 sold 9.92 million copies in that year alone, i mean people need to realize that the day and age of gold and platnum are GONE, i mean there most likely is not ever going to be an album that sells 10 million ever again, and back then it was happening once twice a year at least

But The Fame sold 12 million.

In total.

It only did three million in the states but I imagine that's the biggest sales for that album. I think "The Fame Monster" sold about two million here and since it wasn't a full-fledged album, it was counted to sales of "The Fame" in certain European countries.

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Reply #21 posted 05/22/11 7:35pm

Gunsnhalen

I think even if none of this was going on Lady would still have big numbers, i mean i think just someone's name and there number of fans can get them enough sales. Look at Kanye when My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy Came Out. He didn't even promote it that much, not nearly as much as Graduation and he leaked the album early to but it still managed to sale over 500,000 copies anyway.

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