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Reply #690 posted 06/14/11 12:59pm

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Emancipation89 said:

armpit said:

...MJ had a shitload of fans/groupies that wanted to take a ride on his Gloved Wonder.

I highly doubt he really spent a large portion of his life thinking he was fucking ugly. lol

So do most rockstars. If groupies/fanatics are the major reason that made him think he wasn't that ugly after all...that's a sad life.

I don't know about self-hating or self-destructing but I always thought MJ was never really fully confident with the way he looked...well, maybe at times...Even LMP said "he's an artist. If he sees something he doesn't like in the mirror, he changes it. He has every right to do that". confused

I can't imagine what it's like to be called 'the sexiest/most beautiful man on earth' by fans and "the ugliest/most weird looking man on earth" by tabloids, comedians or sometimes general public...

But it's so nice to see that note...

...True, but I'd imagine that once he realized how much the gold pants pictures circulate in the fan community, (along with gifs of him thrusting and popping his stuff over and over), it must've occurred to him that he was a fairly nice piece of ass, if it somehow hadn't before then. And if THAT didn't do it, then all the buckwild fan-fiction had to have convinced him. There's no way all that fangirl adoration stemmed solely from his fame when a sizable amount of fan discussion is about how much they all wanted to bang him.

Look, I'm not saying he never had doubts about himself. That's an indisputable fact, because he stated that outright in pretty much every interview he did. But I think he kinda played it up to present a wounded Peter-Pan public image, and I think a lot of us fans bought into it so much that....basically, you get the reactions we're seeing here in this thread : people being overwhelmed with shock and joy to hear that MJ didn't completely hate himself.

But I never bought that so it's odd to me to see people react that way to this poem/song. Especially when, again, the signs were there all along with him floating statues and singing about how 'bad' he is, so on and so forth.

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Reply #691 posted 06/14/11 1:07pm

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armpit said:

...True, but I'd imagine that once he realized how much the gold pants pictures circulate in the fan community, (along with gifs of him thrusting and popping his stuff over and over), it must've occurred to him that he was a fairly nice piece of ass, if it somehow hadn't before then. And if THAT didn't do it, then all the buckwild fan-fiction had to have convinced him. There's no way all that fangirl adoration stemmed solely from his fame when a sizable amount of fan discussion is about how much they all wanted to bang him.

Look, I'm not saying he never had doubts about himself. That's an indisputable fact, because he stated that outright in pretty much every interview he did. But I think he kinda played it up to present a wounded Peter-Pan public image, and I think a lot of us fans bought into it so much that....basically, you get the reactions we're seeing here in this thread : people being overwhelmed with shock and joy to hear that MJ didn't completely hate himself.

But I never bought that so it's odd to me to see people react that way to this poem/song. Especially when, again, the signs were there all along with him floating statues and singing about how 'bad' he is, so on and so forth.

I wonder if he ever read those forums and if he did, I'd looooooooove to see his facial expressions reading it. lol

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #692 posted 06/14/11 1:12pm

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dag said:

armpit said:

...True, but I'd imagine that once he realized how much the gold pants pictures circulate in the fan community, (along with gifs of him thrusting and popping his stuff over and over), it must've occurred to him that he was a fairly nice piece of ass, if it somehow hadn't before then. And if THAT didn't do it, then all the buckwild fan-fiction had to have convinced him. There's no way all that fangirl adoration stemmed solely from his fame when a sizable amount of fan discussion is about how much they all wanted to bang him.

Look, I'm not saying he never had doubts about himself. That's an indisputable fact, because he stated that outright in pretty much every interview he did. But I think he kinda played it up to present a wounded Peter-Pan public image, and I think a lot of us fans bought into it so much that....basically, you get the reactions we're seeing here in this thread : people being overwhelmed with shock and joy to hear that MJ didn't completely hate himself.

But I never bought that so it's odd to me to see people react that way to this poem/song. Especially when, again, the signs were there all along with him floating statues and singing about how 'bad' he is, so on and so forth.

I wonder if he ever read those forums and if he did, I'd looooooooove to see his facial expressions reading it. lol

From all his interviews and stuff I always got the feeling he was a really curious person, it's because of that that I have a really hard time believing he never surfed the fan sites.

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Reply #693 posted 06/14/11 1:22pm

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armpit said:

dag said:

I wonder if he ever read those forums and if he did, I'd looooooooove to see his facial expressions reading it. lol

From all his interviews and stuff I always got the feeling he was a really curious person, it's because of that that I have a really hard time believing he never surfed the fan sites.

He probably did and after that he wrote the poem. lol

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #694 posted 06/14/11 1:26pm

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armpit said:

Emancipation89 said:

So do most rockstars. If groupies/fanatics are the major reason that made him think he wasn't that ugly after all...that's a sad life.

I don't know about self-hating or self-destructing but I always thought MJ was never really fully confident with the way he looked...well, maybe at times...Even LMP said "he's an artist. If he sees something he doesn't like in the mirror, he changes it. He has every right to do that". confused

I can't imagine what it's like to be called 'the sexiest/most beautiful man on earth' by fans and "the ugliest/most weird looking man on earth" by tabloids, comedians or sometimes general public...

But it's so nice to see that note...

...True, but I'd imagine that once he realized how much the gold pants pictures circulate in the fan community, (along with gifs of him thrusting and popping his stuff over and over), it must've occurred to him that he was a fairly nice piece of ass, if it somehow hadn't before then. And if THAT didn't do it, then all the buckwild fan-fiction had to have convinced him. There's no way all that fangirl adoration stemmed solely from his fame when a sizable amount of fan discussion is about how much they all wanted to bang him.

Look, I'm not saying he never had doubts about himself. That's an indisputable fact, because he stated that outright in pretty much every interview he did. But I think he kinda played it up to present a wounded Peter-Pan public image, and I think a lot of us fans bought into it so much that....basically, you get the reactions we're seeing here in this thread : people being overwhelmed with shock and joy to hear that MJ didn't completely hate himself.

But I never bought that so it's odd to me to see people react that way to this poem/song. Especially when, again, the signs were there all along with him floating statues and singing about how 'bad' he is, so on and so forth.

smile I just think he had a lot of moments and because those moments were a lot more extreme than regular people, notes like this make people like me feel relieved and happy. And honestly, if those fan-fictions and admiration from fans helped him gain confidence that's wonderful but because he had more fans than anyone else on the planet, I think he was pressured by the fandom at the same time. Him not wanting to grow old, not wanting to look old just tells me that. I feel like he always carried that pressure to stay looking beautiful for his fans.

I agree he may have exaggerated that wounded peter-pan persona a bit in front of the public but really that's who he was at the end of the day I think. The cruel comments he got from his dad and his cousins when he was going through adolescence stayed with him till the end...Being so self conscious that whenever you do an interview you try to keep covering your face/nose with your hand (Especially before Thriller era), thinking that you're so ugly because well, people who are supposed to love you most constantly tell you so...and on top of that you have to face the public every day...I admire MJ's strength, his love for music, art and entertainment. If I had to go through all that I'd have been like FUCK THIS I'M DONE WITH SHOWBIZ lol seriously.

+ Oh and if my dad told me I was ugly when I was a teenager...I don't know. I might have turned out to be one of those poor kids who wear paper bags to coverup their face in school ='(

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Reply #695 posted 06/14/11 1:28pm

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Actually, he didn't have to read the forums.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #696 posted 06/14/11 1:54pm

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ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

NaughtyKitty said:

eek Where did you find this?

A friend of mine tagged me in it on facebook. I have no idea where she got it from, but I knew I had to share it.

It warmed my heart mushy

Cool, thanks! smile

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Reply #697 posted 06/14/11 1:55pm

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dag said:

armpit said:

...True, but I'd imagine that once he realized how much the gold pants pictures circulate in the fan community, (along with gifs of him thrusting and popping his stuff over and over), it must've occurred to him that he was a fairly nice piece of ass, if it somehow hadn't before then. And if THAT didn't do it, then all the buckwild fan-fiction had to have convinced him. There's no way all that fangirl adoration stemmed solely from his fame when a sizable amount of fan discussion is about how much they all wanted to bang him.

Look, I'm not saying he never had doubts about himself. That's an indisputable fact, because he stated that outright in pretty much every interview he did. But I think he kinda played it up to present a wounded Peter-Pan public image, and I think a lot of us fans bought into it so much that....basically, you get the reactions we're seeing here in this thread : people being overwhelmed with shock and joy to hear that MJ didn't completely hate himself.

But I never bought that so it's odd to me to see people react that way to this poem/song. Especially when, again, the signs were there all along with him floating statues and singing about how 'bad' he is, so on and so forth.

I wonder if he ever read those forums and if he did, I'd looooooooove to see his facial expressions reading it. lol

S**t, I'd PAY to see his face reading those forums, yo! falloff

I bet his eyes were wide, his face blushing all sortsa red, and giggling like crazy (plus slightly turned on). lol

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Reply #698 posted 06/14/11 2:18pm

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The Behind The Mask video premiered today

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Reply #699 posted 06/14/11 2:48pm

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Behind the Mask Video

Obviously a video for the fans, but I kinda enjoyed it.

Sure there are way too many MJ wannabes in the video - but where people showed their own creativity it was great. Put a smile on my face - so not a bad thing.

I was expecting all the images to collage into a picture of the BTM cover, but probably best they didn't - might have been too predictable.

I think most people will watch it and enjoy it.

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Reply #700 posted 06/14/11 3:02pm

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How Michael Jackson’s Virtual Flash Mob Was Crowdsourced

The king of pop might be gone, but he’s not forgotten.

A massive collaborative act of music video creation by — and for — his fans has helped make sure of that. Thousands of MJ fans worldwide contributed to the posthumous Michael Jackson music video for “Behind the Mask” released Tuesday on the star’s Facebook page (watch below).

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Director Dennis Liu told Evolver.fm that the video was inspired by Jackson’s own work, in particular his 1991 “Black or White” video, with its emphasis on “connecting” people — something that today’s social technologies are sometimes about, too.

The idea of having people act out moves from the video came from the crowd too, according to the director — in particular, flash mobs in which everyone from Philippine prisoners to Swedish volunteers dances to Jackson’s music.

The new video for the song “Behind the Mask” premiered on Facebook, where Jackson’s regularly updated presence has been “liked” nearly 36 million times — a large number that pales in comparison to the more than 750 million albums he is ... have sold.

This crowdsourced, professionally produced video was under tight wraps until Tuesday, but director Liu, whose other clients have included Apple and Microsoft, gave Evolver.fm a verbal preview of the virtual flash mob he made from the more than 15,000 videos submitted by fans since March.

MichaelJackson.com screenshots: Eliot Van Buskirk/Evolver.fm.

Some clips ran 15 seconds, and others covered the song’s duration. A team of five needed two months to sift through the videos before Liu and his team arrived at the finished product, including video of 1,600 participants woven together.

To participate, fans selected from a number of actions from Jackson’s website (“playing an instrument, singing a lyric, acting out a crowd reaction or demonstrating a classic MJ dance move”), then filmed themselves with a webcam or uploaded video shot elsewhere. Using a split-pane interface, they could then line up their video with Jackson’s in order to follow the directions.

“Doing posthumous video is always a tricky thing because for me, as an artist, I want to respect the artist’s vision, which is why the musician wrote the piece,” said Liu. “So initially, it’s always tricky to take that, given that Michael’s not with us anymore.”

He hears two main riffs in Jackson’s legacy.

“He was all about diversity — an international presence,” said Liu. “Everyone was an equal, and there was always this magic behind his presence…. How [could we] bring the world together for some sort of video? The inspiration was ‘Black or White,’ in showing how he helps connect the world, because we wanted to go big and do something that would knock everyone’s socks off.”

Indeed, participants came from 103 countries. The other riff he wanted to echo was Jackson’s well-evidenced embrace of technology in making his videos, which affected how this video was made and distributed.

“Michael always tried to push the limits of technology with his videos,” said Liu. “Without a doubt, everyone knows that Michael Jackson was at the forefront of music video innovation, from Thriller toScream.”

Only a star of Jackson’s reach could convince people to contribute well-coordinated video to a project on this scale, according to the director. Several documented Thriller flash mobs back him up.

So, how did Liu’s channeling of 15,000 submissions into a single crowdsourced video turn out? In the spirit of crowdsourcing, you can decide for yourself, “like” it or not.

Either way, Jackson’s fans have something new to watch: each other.

source: http://www.wired.com/unde...flash-mob/

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Reply #701 posted 06/14/11 3:41pm

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Well that poem definitely proves he wasn't someone who was always self-doubting himself. Hell we all have moments of self-doubt but Michael was more triumphant and confident than he was tragic and "defeated". Don't believe all that you read on what transpire in his final years...

If you have to, literally, write yourself a poem reminding yourself that you are a beautiful person...then I got some bad news for you...

No, but seriously, I do agree with you to some extent. He wasn't totally wallowing in self-pity, I mean...look how far he got. Then again, he wasn't always love him at all times, I mean...how many times did he get his nose done? Either way, there are lots of people, no matter what they have, aren't happy with themselves and/or confident with themselves, even though people might praise the ground they walk on. It's like a hole that can never get filled no matter how much dirt you put in it.

That being said...I think that he was beautiful and he seemed like he had a good heart to me.

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Reply #702 posted 06/14/11 4:11pm

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Unholyalliance said:

Timmy84 said:

Well that poem definitely proves he wasn't someone who was always self-doubting himself. Hell we all have moments of self-doubt but Michael was more triumphant and confident than he was tragic and "defeated". Don't believe all that you read on what transpire in his final years...

If you have to, literally, write yourself a poem reminding yourself that you are a beautiful person...then I got some bad news for you...

No, but seriously, I do agree with you to some extent. He wasn't totally wallowing in self-pity, I mean...look how far he got. Then again, he wasn't always love him at all times, I mean...how many times did he get his nose done? Either way, there are lots of people, no matter what they have, aren't happy with themselves and/or confident with themselves, even though people might praise the ground they walk on. It's like a hole that can never get filled no matter how much dirt you put in it.

That being said...I think that he was beautiful and he seemed like he had a good heart to me.

There is a big difference between feeling beautiful and feeling worthy.

A lot of people who achieve great success are plagued with insecurities and issues of not feeling worthy of the success - or fear they are a fraud.

Michael - like all of us - would have had his fair share of days filled with doubt and other days when he would have felt resilient. For as much as he proclaimed to having "rhinoceros skin" there can be little doubt we was a hyper sensitive person who would easily be scared by teasing, taunting and the harsh words of the press.

That said, he could also draw on his talent and feel confident in certain things like his performance and ability to please a crowd.

All in all he was human, with the same fears and strengths we all confront.

[Edited 6/14/11 16:14pm]

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Reply #703 posted 06/14/11 5:33pm

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Behind The Mask video, I was just meeehhhh. It was done with Hold My Hand. I just don't see the point in these types of video's once it has been done a million times on youtube. The coolest thing about that video is that somebody out there has the Moonwalker rabbit outfit lol

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Reply #704 posted 06/14/11 8:28pm

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dag said:

Actually, he didn't have to read the forums.

lol

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Reply #705 posted 06/14/11 9:47pm

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One of the dancers from This Is It talked about his shock about the Estate not using the original video they had done for Behind The Mask and going with the "Plan B" version......and of course, some of our fellow fans attacked him, calling him hateful, disrespectful, and money hungry disbelief

ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
This isn't what the Behind The Mask video was supposed to look like.. Did the estate pull a fast one on us or something?
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@ @loveforalltime The original concept was shot and it was looking amazing. The fan footage was plan B. I don't know what they were thinking..
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ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
@ @MJloverCaro I definitely agree. But I also was on the set of the real Behind The Mask shoot and it was very exciting and promising.
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ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
@ @23galadriel that's it. Clearly the real video was on it's way to becoming an amazing tribute with lots of Michael present. I'm lost.
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ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
@ @daggonitmj yup! That's the video I remember shooting..
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ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
Forgetting how sensitive some can be. Apologies for being real. Only good intentions and love for Mike. I speak and the crazies surface wtf?
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@ @KarmenJackson I'm so lost! I can't believe the hatred. I work on the video that people have seen photos of, I mention it, they hate. Why?
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@ @michaelsjustice I just assume it was their decision and I trust that the other video made more sense that's all. MJ would have loved it.
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@ @michaelsjustice never meant to stir up any drama. I was just shocked by the creative decision. It's all good though. It is what it is
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Reply #706 posted 06/15/11 5:15am

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This is the shoot Chucky is talking about.

Exclusive: Photo from video shoot for "Behind the mask" - michael-jackson photo

I think if the video generates sales they may release this alternate video.

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Reply #707 posted 06/15/11 7:01am

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Why would a fan say that? If anything, his dancers for This Is It doing a video would be the most appropriate decision.

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Reply #708 posted 06/15/11 7:03am

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bboy87 said:

One of the dancers from This Is It talked about his shock about the Estate not using the original video they had done for Behind The Mask and going with the "Plan B" version......and of course, some of our fellow fans attacked him, calling him hateful, disrespectful, and money hungry disbelief

ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
This isn't what the Behind The Mask video was supposed to look like.. Did the estate pull a fast one on us or something?
6 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
@ @loveforalltime The original concept was shot and it was looking amazing. The fan footage was plan B. I don't know what they were thinking..
6 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply


ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
@ @MJloverCaro I definitely agree. But I also was on the set of the real Behind The Mask shoot and it was very exciting and promising.
6 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply


ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
@ @23galadriel that's it. Clearly the real video was on it's way to becoming an amazing tribute with lots of Michael present. I'm lost.
3 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply


ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
@ @daggonitmj yup! That's the video I remember shooting..
3 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply


ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
Forgetting how sensitive some can be. Apologies for being real. Only good intentions and love for Mike. I speak and the crazies surface wtf?
2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply


ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
@ @KarmenJackson I'm so lost! I can't believe the hatred. I work on the video that people have seen photos of, I mention it, they hate. Why?
2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply


ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
@ @michaelsjustice I just assume it was their decision and I trust that the other video made more sense that's all. MJ would have loved it.
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply


ChuckyKlapow Chucky Klapow
@ @michaelsjustice never meant to stir up any drama. I was just shocked by the creative decision. It's all good though. It is what it is
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

sigh disbelief Thanks for the posting this Bboy!

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Reply #709 posted 06/15/11 7:34am

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Swa said:

There is a big difference between feeling beautiful and feeling worthy.

A lot of people who achieve great success are plagued with insecurities and issues of not feeling worthy of the success - or fear they are a fraud.

Michael - like all of us - would have had his fair share of days filled with doubt and other days when he would have felt resilient. For as much as he proclaimed to having "rhinoceros skin" there can be little doubt we was a hyper sensitive person who would easily be scared by teasing, taunting and the harsh words of the press.

That said, he could also draw on his talent and feel confident in certain things like his performance and ability to please a crowd.

All in all he was human, with the same fears and strengths we all confront.

[Edited 6/14/11 16:14pm]

Hmm...I don't know about that. Usually if you feel that you are ugly...there is a good chance that you already lack self-confidence so you will start to doubt whether or not you are worthy of things you have achieved. I mean there are days where we all doubt ourselves, but, generally, one comes with the other. If you can not see and recognize your own beauty, that could very well be since you are not realizing your own self-worth. This may also come with the inability to love/appreciate yourself. Those basic things you begin to learn at home though...but I'm not going to get into that.

Even if people think that he was narcissistic, they tend to forget that the irony of those who are narcisstic tend to be the most insecure as they have to compensate for those insecure feelings by putting themselves up on pedastals. Yet the point I was, initially, making is that if he already had the utter confidence in himself he would not have the need to write notes like that to remind himself that he needed to feel that way. Like, do you write notes to remind yourself that 2+2=4? No. It's something that you know already and accept. If you already recognize that you are beautiful or worthy person, of anything, you don't need to remind yourself of it. Especially since I more than sure people were telling him he was really good looking and/or beautiful. Didn't matter if they were though, because you won't see that it's true unless you are able to accept that fact.

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Reply #710 posted 06/15/11 7:41am

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This is the best mashup/remix I've heard done for A Place With No Name

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Reply #711 posted 06/15/11 9:52am

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Reply #712 posted 06/15/11 12:10pm

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #713 posted 06/15/11 6:09pm

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All these videos are wack without Michael anyway. Who wants to see that shit? I mean, what's the point?

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Reply #714 posted 06/15/11 6:25pm

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WildStyle said:

All these videos are wack without Michael anyway. Who wants to see that shit? I mean, what's the point?

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Reply #715 posted 06/15/11 6:28pm

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ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Guys, you have no idea how this makes me feel. He did see the beauty in himself after all. mushy touched

This is sad actually.

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Reply #716 posted 06/15/11 6:32pm

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WildStyle said:

All these videos are wack without Michael anyway. Who wants to see that shit? I mean, what's the point?

It's a catch 22 - fans complain that Sony aren't supporting the album by releasing singles, then they release a single and fans would complain if they don't support it with a video.

I think Sony should be taking a look at how they are approaching the videos. They can't all be nostalgia filled.

I still think there are ways to do contemporary videos without MJ either in a more storyline lead spot - which to their credit Hollywood Tonight is heading in that direction, to creating visually impressive videos around MJ through animation etc - see Madonna Get Together video - or brief it out to someone like Michel Gondry who would give you something fresh and amazing.

In my mind they are playing it all too safe. I still think in a few weeks if sales for Behind the Mask are good they will release the alternate video they shot. (fingers crossed)

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Reply #717 posted 06/15/11 7:33pm

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babybugz said:

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Guys, you have no idea how this makes me feel. He did see the beauty in himself after all. mushy touched

This is sad actually.

Not to me, but ok. I think this is very touching and I'm glad he wrote it. To me, it means he saw the beauty in himself.

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Reply #718 posted 06/15/11 7:36pm

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WildStyle said:

All these videos are wack without Michael anyway. Who wants to see that shit? I mean, what's the point?

Well, it's a fan vid. Not a Michael Jackson vid. To say it's a Michael Jackson vid would imply he personally appears in it.

It's a nice fan vid...but I wish they did more with the song. It deserved a plot line, and actors, and everything. Not this.

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The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl

"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror)

"I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" lol
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Reply #719 posted 06/15/11 7:49pm

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There's a great conversation going on on Facebook about the Dangerous videos

another reason why a double was used for Who Is It was that the director, David Fincher was being rude and obnoxious to Michael. Michael left after the first day, and never came back lol

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