Not sure if you guys heard of Kreayshawn and the White Girl Mob, but there's been some controversey stirred up due to her use of the 'N' word in her twitter and music. She just got signed so it's possible that she'll be released soon .

http://www.ballerstatus.c...fends-use/

Buzzing female rapper Kreayshawn has shot to Internet stardom over the past several weeks, ever since she dropped the video for her song, "Gucci Gucci," on Youtube.

However, since the song's release, the white Oakland rapper has been making headlines for things other than her music, specifically her use of the "N" word.

Bloggers went after her -- and her White Girl Mob crew (DJ L1l D3bb, V-Nasty) -- for their use of the word. But, Kreayshawn defends her occasional use of the word as a practice that's normal in her native Oakland, California.

"If I'm freestyling and I said it, that's just for that point in time. Any songs I'm writing I don't use it," the rapper explained in an interview with OCWeekly.com.

"In Oakland, Asian people will call Mexicans that. A Mexican will call a black dude that. A white person will call an Asian that. Everyone calls each other that," Kreayshawn continued. "I feel like that word is used in the low-income community more than anything. I can see if I was some rich crazy trick and I was just saying this because it's hip-hop. I was raised around this. Me and my sisters were all raised around this. People call me that. But personally I'm not flaunting it around."

The topic first became an issue, when Kreayshawn public tweeted the "N" word, as if it was no big deal.

"People are actin so funny omg lol... I got 200k views... not 200k dollars... WTF YOU WANT FROM A N*GGA?! *DMX VOICE*," she wrote (@Kreayshawn) in late May, referring to the immediately popularity of her music video.

MadameNoire.com blogger, LaShaun Williams commented about the controversy, saying their use of the word should be absolutely forbidden... no matter what kinda pass they've gotten in East Oakland

"I would be lying if I said these girls didn't have the swag they claim, decent flows and infectious style. For artistry, they get the nod; for thinking they have been cleared to say 'n****, well ... There lies the problem," Williams writes.

"Whether or not Black people should use the term amongst themselves is questionable, so for anyone else it should not be considered an option. Yes, we are all humans but race separates our experiences. At the end of the day V-Nasty and girls like her are still White in America."

What do you guys think? Do you support her decision as an artist or do you feel she's wrong for doing so?

I hear other races calling each other that all the time, depending on which part of the city you go to.

WaterInYourBath said:

.... NOW Hip-Hop/Rap is officially dead.

I think maybe all forms of art have died!

Nobody should be using that word and especially not her!

I never heard of her other than this thread. And I just decided to look her up and I looked at one of her videos on youtube and she SUCKS ASS..

Unholyalliance said:

Not sure if you guys heard of Kreayshawn and the White Girl Mob, but there's been some controversey stirred up due to her use of the 'N' word in her twitter and music. She just got signed so it's possible that she'll be released soon .

http://www.ballerstatus.c...fends-use/

What do you guys think? Do you support her decision as an artist or do you feel she's wrong for doing so?

I gotta be honest...I don't care one way or another.

Words are just words. It's the intent that's a problem. Is she intentionally trying to hurt or upset anyone? Obviously not. So it's just a word like any other.

Gotta move past all that other shit.

Militant said:

Words are just words. It's the intent that's a problem. Is she intentionally trying to hurt or upset anyone? Obviously not. So it's just a word like any other.

Gotta move past all that other shit.

You have no right to tell anyone to get over anything...especially African Americans. Period!

Militant said:

Words are just words. It's the intent that's a problem. Is she intentionally trying to hurt or upset anyone? Obviously not. So it's just a word like any other.

Gotta move past all that other shit.

[Snip - luv4u]

She listens to trash, she hangs out with trash, she immitates trash, and she's trash herself. This doesn't surprise me and black people, as well as all people, should be just as pissed at the black trash that goes around using it as well.

They're bored is what it is. Hell, I would be too if I listened to such a rhythmless genre. If they'd get some funk in their bones, they wouldn't have time for such foolishness.

Alamine said:

Militant said:

Words are just words. It's the intent that's a problem. Is she intentionally trying to hurt or upset anyone? Obviously not. So it's just a word like any other.

Gotta move past all that other shit.

[Snip - luv4u]

And somebody that runs around calling folks "fags" is trash also.

vainandy said:

This doesn't surprise me and black people, as well as all people, should be just as pissed at the black trash that goes around using it as well.

It has nothing to do with hip hop though. Some blacks in America have used it as a greeting or in conversation for decades. Watch the average 1970's blaxploitation movie. I'm black, and have never used it, and don't know why anybody else does, but that's their business. But I don't use profanity, and I consider it that. Many of my relatives use it. I heard it in school and in the neighborhood. It doesn't make a lot of sense to get mad at some other race using it, when you say it yourself.

MickyDolenz said:

vainandy said:

This doesn't surprise me and black people, as well as all people, should be just as pissed at the black trash that goes around using it as well.

It has nothing to do with hip hop though. Some blacks in America have used it as a greeting or in conversation for decades. Watch the average 1970's blaxploitation movie. I'm black, and have never used it, and don't know why anybody else does, but that's their business. But I don't use profanity, and I consider it that. Many of my relatives use it. I heard it in school and in the neighborhood. It doesn't make a lot of sense to get mad at some other race using it, when you say it yourself.

Very true, but it has never been as widespreadely used as in shit hop. I've hung with blacks since the late 1970s and I've heard the word come up among them occassionally. But listen to some of these black male teens and 20s these days. It's like an epidemic. In greetings and in every other sentence. Shit hop did this.

sosgemini said:

Militant said:

Words are just words. It's the intent that's a problem. Is she intentionally trying to hurt or upset anyone? Obviously not. So it's just a word like any other.

Gotta move past all that other shit.

You have no right to tell anyone to get over anything...especially African Americans. Period!

ESPECIALLY?

Get over yourself. My people were slaves too. My entire country was colonized and the problems caused by it are quite possibly leading towards World War 3 and it's a problem on a daily basis. So let's not play this game of whose opinion is more important than whose because of history. That's some bullshit. Think I've never had racial abuse? Shit, I'm ambiguously mixed race and used to have cornrows and got called the N word myself a few times by Neo-Nazi's trying to kick my head in.

The POINT that I made is about WORDS in general. I didn't say "african americans need to get over use of the N word". Did I say that? Show me where I said that.

What we, AS HUMANS, OF ALL RACES, need to move past, is the very idea that words by themselves are harmful. They aren't. Negative intent is harmful.

Want me to prove it? OK. Paki Chink Fag Nigger Spic Towelhead Crackerjack Honkey Spastic.

Those are words. Combinations of letters. Meaningless on their own without any hurtful intent behind them.

So is Kreayshawn doing anything wrong? Nope. I hear Latino rappers say it too. They doing anything wrong? Nope.

For the record? I DO have a right to an opinion and to express it. You have the right to disagree with the opinion. But don't sit here telling ME what I don't have the right to do..... especially when I didn't even say what you think I did.

Deuces.

Alamine said:

Militant said:

Words are just words. It's the intent that's a problem. Is she intentionally trying to hurt or upset anyone? Obviously not. So it's just a word like any other.

Gotta move past all that other shit.

[Snip - luv4u]

And IDGAF about that either. Kreayshawn rolls with Odd Future, they say fag all the time and only uppity folks are giving a fuck, and most of them folks ain't even gay and getting pissy lol.

i think i like this girl , but she stupid for using the word on wax or whereever. i see where she's coming from about our generation's (whites, blacks, everybody) over-use of the word, but it's still bad for business . eminem knows the deal...

Militant said:

sosgemini said:

You have no right to tell anyone to get over anything...especially African Americans. Period!

ESPECIALLY?

Get over yourself. My people were slaves too. My entire country was colonized and the problems caused by it are quite possibly leading towards World War 3 and it's a problem on a daily basis. So let's not play this game of whose opinion is more important than whose because of history. That's some bullshit. Think I've never had racial abuse? Shit, I'm ambiguously mixed race and used to have cornrows and got called the N word myself a few times by Neo-Nazi's trying to kick my head in.

The POINT that I made is about WORDS in general. I didn't say "african americans need to get over use of the N word". Did I say that? Show me where I said that.

What we, AS HUMANS, OF ALL RACES, need to move past, is the very idea that words by themselves are harmful. They aren't. Negative intent is harmful.

Want me to prove it? OK. Paki Chink Fag Nigger Spic Towelhead Crackerjack Honkey Spastic.

Those are words. Combinations of letters. Meaningless on their own without any hurtful intent behind them.

So is Kreayshawn doing anything wrong? Nope. I hear Latino rappers say it too. They doing anything wrong? Nope.

For the record? I DO have a right to an opinion and to express it. You have the right to disagree with the opinion. But don't sit here telling ME what I don't have the right to do..... especially when I didn't even say what you think I did.

Deuces.

[Snip - luv4u]

I prefer Negro instead but that is another line for discussion. Being a black woman, I dislike the n-word and white trash being tossed around like lettuce in a salad. It is tacky and I understand that trash is trash and will most likely be forever. What really kills me is the poor verbal skills of this girl. She said "me and my sisters..." when she should have said "my sisters and I." Rather than bash the girl, I think someone should volunteer time to teach her how to speak publicly.

I don't have a problem with it. Can't expect them to listen to rap songs that are laced with the word but expect them not to use the word.

travelmama said:

I prefer Negro instead but that is another line for discussion. Being a black woman, I dislike the n-word and white trash being tossed around like lettuce in a salad. It is tacky and I understand that trash is trash and will most likely be forever. What really kills me is the poor verbal skills of this girl. She said "me and my sisters..." when she should have said "my sisters and I." Rather than bash the girl, I think someone should volunteer time to teach her how to speak publicly.

it's called Ebonics

look it up

also, shouldn't this thread be in Politics and Religion forum?

this word will never die............and the fact that it is used in this song should not bother anyone

to be honest, i've been living in NY for almost 2 years now and it's the same thing every. every urban member of ANY race calls ANY other member of any race that.

i don't like it, but it's apparently the norm around here.

vainandy said:

She listens to trash, she hangs out with trash, she immitates trash, and she's trash herself. This doesn't surprise me and black people, as well as all people, should be just as pissed at the black trash that goes around using it as well.

They're bored is what it is. Hell, I would be too if I listened to such a rhythmless genre. If they'd get some funk in their bones, they wouldn't have time for such foolishness.

Bottom line is when you're in an environment that uses terms like that, does not give anyone a pass to think it's ok to use it outside of that environment, and believe that others outside your environment will be so quick to accept or understand your use of a specific "slang" term they may find degrading. Every ethnic group has a not-so-nice term they use among themselves. This does not mean they will feel the same when someone outside their group uses it towards them, because it takes on a totally different meaning, when the "outsider" so-to-speak, uses it, and in turn may come off as offensive, questionable and raise curiosity, to the individual they're expressing the term to.

I used to hear southern whites in an office I worked in use the term "r*dneck" towards one another, and I thought that was so low-class, and asked them why they say that to one another, and they basically shrugged it off and said it was basically a "Term of endearment", but had I used it towards them, there's no question eyebrows would have been raised about my intent of expressing the term towards them, and it certainly would not have been received as a "Term of endearment". Common sense, just let those ugly terms die. The history of the "n" word comes from a bad place in the past and its intent was to degrade specific human beings. Spell it anyway you want, it means the same, damn thing. I choose not to use the term as I have no use for it. If I want to greet someone with a term of endearment, at least it won't be one that has an offensive history.

[Edited 6/11/11 18:57pm]

MickyDolenz said:

vainandy said:

This doesn't surprise me and black people, as well as all people, should be just as pissed at the black trash that goes around using it as well.

It has nothing to do with hip hop though. Some blacks in America have used it as a greeting or in conversation for decades. Watch the average 1970's blaxploitation movie. I'm black, and have never used it, and don't know why anybody else does, but that's their business. But I don't use profanity, and I consider it that. Many of my relatives use it. I heard it in school and in the neighborhood. It doesn't make a lot of sense to get mad at some other race using it, when you say it yourself.

I'm black, I'm certainly not trash, and I use the term in conversation with folks on a regular basis. I really don't care, and I'm sick of the black community getting huffy when they hear other ppl use it. Stop giving that damn word so much power.

Militant said:

sosgemini said:

You have no right to tell anyone to get over anything...especially African Americans. Period!

ESPECIALLY?

Get over yourself. My people were slaves too. My entire country was colonized and the problems caused by it are quite possibly leading towards World War 3 and it's a problem on a daily basis. So let's not play this game of whose opinion is more important than whose because of history. That's some bullshit. Think I've never had racial abuse? Shit, I'm ambiguously mixed race and used to have cornrows and got called the N word myself a few times by Neo-Nazi's trying to kick my head in.

The POINT that I made is about WORDS in general. I didn't say "african americans need to get over use of the N word". Did I say that? Show me where I said that.

What we, AS HUMANS, OF ALL RACES, need to move past, is the very idea that words by themselves are harmful. They aren't. Negative intent is harmful.

Want me to prove it? OK. Paki Chink Fag Nigger Spic Towelhead Crackerjack Honkey Spastic.

Those are words. Combinations of letters. Meaningless on their own without any hurtful intent behind them.

So is Kreayshawn doing anything wrong? Nope. I hear Latino rappers say it too. They doing anything wrong? Nope.

For the record? I DO have a right to an opinion and to express it. You have the right to disagree with the opinion. But don't sit here telling ME what I don't have the right to do..... especially when I didn't even say what you think I did.

Deuces.

Get over yourself.

I DO have a right to an opinion and to express it. You have the right to disagree with the opinion. But don't sit here telling ME what I don't have the right to do..... especially when I didn't even say what you think I did.

[Edited 6/11/11 20:05pm]

I actually posted a video of Kreayshawn Gucci song a while back on here and said I’ll pass on this chick now that I know she likes to use the “N” Word I’m glad I did. But as long as these other rappers keep saying it in their music these white kids are going to think it’s okay. Mostly the white kids are purchasing this music.

VinnyM27 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

.... NOW Hip-Hop/Rap is officially dead.

I think maybe all forms of art have died!

Militant said:

ESPECIALLY?

Get over yourself. My people were slaves too. My entire country was colonized and the problems caused by it are quite possibly leading towards World War 3 and it's a problem on a daily basis...

I don't think it's completely correct to tell someone from one culture that whatever values they have are wrong to have, based on your experiences considering that you may come from a completely different cultrue. Something about that just doesn't seem right to me.