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Reply #60 posted 05/21/11 4:26pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

And they didn't burn the Cascio tracks? Punks! lol

There are more other cascios songs confused

Black widow

Fall in love

All right

Stay

Ready 2 win

All I need

I wonder WHEN they created those god-awful songs ...........

So there's

Monster

Keep Your Head Up

Breaking News

All I Need

Stay

Burn 2 Nite

Water

Soldier Boy

Fall In Love

All Right

Ready 2 Win

the first 3 were released

All I Need, Stay, and Soldier Boy have leaked, a snippet of Water leaked, Burn 2 Nite is among some collectors

the rest...not sure. Fans are trying to have ALL of them leak lol

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Reply #61 posted 05/21/11 4:30pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

There are more other cascios songs confused

Black widow

Fall in love

All right

Stay

Ready 2 win

All I need

I wonder WHEN they created those god-awful songs ...........

So there's

Monster

Keep Your Head Up

Breaking News

All I Need

Stay

Burn 2 Nite

Water

Soldier Boy

Fall In Love

All Right

Ready 2 Win

the first 3 were released

All I Need, Stay, and Soldier Boy have leaked, a snippet of Water leaked, Burn 2 Nite is among some collectors

the rest...not sure. Fans are trying to have ALL of them leak lol

I'm thinking if this is the case of them leaking, this may force Sony to drop them. Oh God I hope that happens! lol

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Reply #62 posted 05/21/11 4:40pm

seeingvoices12

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

So there's

Monster

Keep Your Head Up

Breaking News

All I Need

Stay

Burn 2 Nite

Water

Soldier Boy

Fall In Love

All Right

Ready 2 Win

the first 3 were released

All I Need, Stay, and Soldier Boy have leaked, a snippet of Water leaked, Burn 2 Nite is among some collectors

the rest...not sure. Fans are trying to have ALL of them leak lol

I'm thinking if this is the case of them leaking, this may force Sony to drop them. Oh God I hope that happens! lol

They should be leaked , and should be dropped.

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Reply #63 posted 05/21/11 11:18pm

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I said this to bboy earlier, but there's too much bullshitting around, and I can't even say this shit on an MJ forum (except perhaps Max Jax, but I don't go to MJ forums regularly anyway), so I'm just gonna come right out and say it.

If you believe that any of the Cascio songs are sung by Michael Jackson, you are not a fan of Michael Jackson.

Any real fan can INSTANTLY tell the difference between Michael Jackson, one of the most iconic voices of all time who we listen to on a daily basis and have done for decades... and a weak ass imposter with a horrible, completely uncontrolled vibrato.

As soon as I heard the first two WORDS of "Breaking News" as soon as it streamed on the site, I knew it wasn't him. It was obvious that it wasn't.

Sony can go fuck themselves if they release more of that bullshit.

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Reply #64 posted 05/21/11 11:19pm

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What have you done? Any youtube links? Sorry to go off track just curious lol

Sure, I'll orgnote you so as not to make this thread about me lol.

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Reply #65 posted 05/21/11 11:27pm

Timmy84

Militant said:

I said this to bboy earlier, but there's too much bullshitting around, and I can't even say this shit on an MJ forum (except perhaps Max Jax, but I don't go to MJ forums regularly anyway), so I'm just gonna come right out and say it.

If you believe that any of the Cascio songs are sung by Michael Jackson, you are not a fan of Michael Jackson.

Any real fan can INSTANTLY tell the difference between Michael Jackson, one of the most iconic voices of all time who we listen to on a daily basis and have done for decades... and a weak ass imposter with a horrible, completely uncontrolled vibrato.

As soon as I heard the first two WORDS of "Breaking News" as soon as it streamed on the site, I knew it wasn't him. It was obvious that it wasn't.

Sony can go fuck themselves if they release more of that bullshit.

Sony can eat 15-foot long baboon's dicks for all I care...

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Reply #66 posted 05/22/11 12:43am

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I am so certain that the Cascio tracks are fakes that I don't even bother hunting down the leaks anymore. I haven't heard Soldier Boy or Stay or Water. I couldn't even mustle up the enthusiasm to search on Youtube for them. What's the point??

One things for sure, if Sony insist on using more Cascio tracks on the next release I think they'll have an epic flop on their hands. I know "Michael" was hardly a blockbuster seller, but the more they pull shit like this, the more people will lose interest. I'm certainly not supporting any album with Cascio tracks on it.

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Reply #67 posted 05/22/11 3:19am

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Militant said:

I said this to bboy earlier, but there's too much bullshitting around, and I can't even say this shit on an MJ forum (except perhaps Max Jax, but I don't go to MJ forums regularly anyway), so I'm just gonna come right out and say it.

If you believe that any of the Cascio songs are sung by Michael Jackson, you are not a fan of Michael Jackson.

Any real fan can INSTANTLY tell the difference between Michael Jackson, one of the most iconic voices of all time who we listen to on a daily basis and have done for decades... and a weak ass imposter with a horrible, completely uncontrolled vibrato.

As soon as I heard the first two WORDS of "Breaking News" as soon as it streamed on the site, I knew it wasn't him. It was obvious that it wasn't.

Sony can go fuck themselves if they release more of that bullshit.

Preach , Thank god I did NOT buy the album "michael" , I don't support bullshit , and if the upcoming record will contain any fraudascios tracks then I will simply NOT buy it.....enough is enough , I will do as I did with the album Michael, I will download the real songs Illegally and make my own collection , plain and simple

MICHAEL JACKSON
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مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #68 posted 05/22/11 3:27am

delicious

TRUTH at all the above. I knew within seconds aswell.

I've just been banned AGAIN from MJJC for no reason. They really have lost the plot. I can't believe people were being banned left and right for suggesting its not him on the Cascio tracks. I really do think those people who thinks its him are insane. Including that nutter GAZ

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Reply #69 posted 05/22/11 3:54am

novabrkr

I didn't even realize the word "blue" in "Blue Gangsta" could refer to "having the blues" myself. I just thought the title would be an excuse for him to do a sequel video to Smooth Criminal and instead of wearing a white suit he would wear a blue one. lol

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Reply #70 posted 05/22/11 5:21am

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Hear the voice, sure as the same miserable imposter on the fraudascios tracks.....Give me a fuckin break....

what a voice.........

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Reply #71 posted 05/22/11 5:40am

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So 2 thoughts:

1) How come all the people that supposedly came forward supporting it WAS Michael's voice

INCLUDING Bruce are never asked about it? I mean clearly the guy who sang "Breaking News" isn't the same vocalist who recorded TWYMMF. The only possible way they all "said it was Michael" was if they played them the clips of the songs with the most possible samples of MJ's voice in each of the tracks. And even then, surely one of these people close to Michael professionally would have called BS, unless they were paid for their silence.

2) I got the second edition of "Dancing The Dream" - and don't understand why they merely changed the cover. I have 2 copies of the original edition from the early 90s, but just curious, why the cover swap? Anyone know?

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Reply #72 posted 05/22/11 6:03am

novabrkr

If there will be another Q&A with Bruce Swedien on a gear forum or something like that, I will ask him about it. He might not answer it though.

My guess is that they are contractually obliged not to comment on it. Especially if they have committed themselves to the project in long term, i.e. doing some work on the next posthumous albums as well. You'd think Lenny Kravitz would have said something by now about it - his initial response simply confirmed that Michael sang on the song he did, but I think his silence about the Cascio tracks said enough of his view on them.

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Reply #73 posted 05/22/11 7:55am

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Awwww MJ would have probably loved this shirt. touched

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Reply #74 posted 05/22/11 8:53am

mookie

MattyJam said:

I am so certain that the Cascio tracks are fakes that I don't even bother hunting down the leaks anymore. I haven't heard Soldier Boy or Stay or Water. I couldn't even mustle up the enthusiasm to search on Youtube for them. What's the point??

This is exactly I feel.

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Reply #75 posted 05/22/11 10:06am

Timmy84

Vanilli said:

Awwww MJ would have probably loved this shirt. touched

Hot shirt. nod

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Reply #76 posted 05/22/11 10:16am

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Militant said:

I said this to bboy earlier, but there's too much bullshitting around, and I can't even say this shit on an MJ forum (except perhaps Max Jax, but I don't go to MJ forums regularly anyway), so I'm just gonna come right out and say it.

If you believe that any of the Cascio songs are sung by Michael Jackson, you are not a fan of Michael Jackson.

Any real fan can INSTANTLY tell the difference between Michael Jackson, one of the most iconic voices of all time who we listen to on a daily basis and have done for decades... and a weak ass imposter with a horrible, completely uncontrolled vibrato.

As soon as I heard the first two WORDS of "Breaking News" as soon as it streamed on the site, I knew it wasn't him. It was obvious that it wasn't.

Sony can go fuck themselves if they release more of that bullshit.

i remember the morning it was put online , and i listend to it ( the preview i found doubtfull) but the full version made me scratch my ears and i was like this doensnt sound like him at al. so then i logged in on the org and there where like 5 pages of negative responses .

http://www.youtube.com/wa...dded#at=99 anyone seen this live version of butterflies ? they use an acapella and they play drums , keys , guitar etc live

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Reply #77 posted 05/22/11 10:18am

berko

Hi guys hears an idea....I agree with Militant and Seeing Voices, and love reading your post...If those other MJ boards are banning ppl left right and center then fuck them..its their loss and the fans loss that a reasonable voice can`t be heard...Personally I don`t bother and just leave them in there bubble...About thoses Fans who look for money for these new MJ tracks and thoses who don`t share...lets do this....somone who we trust "the forementioned" sets up a paypal account....everything throws in a few quid, before u know it we have the tracks and leak them everywhere...Fuck SONY and FUCK those fans......I`m up for it....a one sec leak of " Day of Glous".....get the boat...theres ways around everything....I trust certain ppl here to do this...

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Reply #78 posted 05/22/11 11:55am

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What do you guys think about the new leaked track soldier boy?

Listen Here

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Reply #79 posted 05/22/11 12:20pm

berko

...Holy Shit..just when u think things can`t get any worse we hear this !!!!!!Pathetic it is....

Thanks for sharing all the same..good job..

poor mike..can`t believe ppl are tainting his musicical legacy..shame on all them

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Reply #80 posted 05/22/11 1:31pm

Emancipation89

Honestly I'm still a bit confused. The voice doesn't sound like MJ at all...but when I watched the Oprah interview with Cascio family I wanted to believe them. Maybe because everyone around Michael seemed so vicious and this family seemed like they were one of the very few people who were around MJ AFTER the 2005 trial...so that must mean Michael at least trusted them...I don't know. If Cascio family were all lying, Teddy Riley's lying, Bruce Swedian and Howard Weitzman are all lying..what exactly are they lying for? There seem to be enough legit MJ tracks for new albums...? Why do they need to put these filler fake sounding songs in the new album? And no doubt Sony is only trying to make as much money as possible off of the new albums...Then why would they put some obvious fake sounding songs that would definitely make a lot of fans not buy it?

Are we not supposed to buy new MJ albums??! I can't stand Breaking News but I must admit I kinda liked Keep Your Head Up. It sounds disturbingly different from MJ's voice that I'm used to and the vibrato is so week and messed up but I don't know...2000 watts doesn't sound like MJ either...


[Edited 5/22/11 13:34pm]

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Reply #81 posted 05/22/11 1:40pm

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Emancipation89 said:

Honestly I'm still a bit confused. The voice doesn't sound like MJ at all...but when I watched the Oprah interview with Cascio family I wanted to believe them. Maybe because everyone around Michael seemed so vicious and this family seemed like they were one of the very few people who were around MJ AFTER the 2005 trial...so that must mean Michael at least trusted them...I don't know. If Cascio family were all lying, Teddy Riley's lying, Bruce Swedian and Howard Weitzman are all lying..what exactly are they lying for? There seem to be enough legit MJ tracks for new albums...? Why do they need to put these filler fake sounding songs in the new album? And no doubt Sony is only trying to make as much money as possible off of the new albums...Then why would they put some obvious fake sounding songs that would definitely make a lot of fans not buy it?

Are we not supposed to buy new MJ albums??! I can't stand Breaking News but I must admit I kinda liked Keep Your Head Up. It sounds disturbingly different from MJ's voice that I'm used to and the vibrato is so week and messed up but I don't know...2000 watts doesn't sound like MJ either...


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I don't get this either, but it's impossible to think that Mike's voice would have changed so much We've heard him on TII and he still sounded like himself. Maybe Sony doesn't have access to many of his songs, who knows?

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #82 posted 05/22/11 1:46pm

Timmy84

Emancipation89 said:

Honestly I'm still a bit confused. The voice doesn't sound like MJ at all...but when I watched the Oprah interview with Cascio family I wanted to believe them. Maybe because everyone around Michael seemed so vicious and this family seemed like they were one of the very few people who were around MJ AFTER the 2005 trial...so that must mean Michael at least trusted them...I don't know. If Cascio family were all lying, Teddy Riley's lying, Bruce Swedian and Howard Weitzman are all lying..what exactly are they lying for? There seem to be enough legit MJ tracks for new albums...? Why do they need to put these filler fake sounding songs in the new album? And no doubt Sony is only trying to make as much money as possible off of the new albums...Then why would they put some obvious fake sounding songs that would definitely make a lot of fans not buy it?

Are we not supposed to buy new MJ albums??! I can't stand Breaking News but I must admit I kinda liked Keep Your Head Up. It sounds disturbingly different from MJ's voice that I'm used to and the vibrato is so week and messed up but I don't know...2000 watts doesn't sound like MJ either...


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The Cascios could tell everyone how faithful they were to the man but these tracks don't prove they were. It's obvious WHY they did this. MONEY. Money can even turn your closest ally against you. I'm just glad Michael wasn't around to see this but then again if he was around, none of these tracks would've ever been made public.

OOPS.

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Reply #83 posted 05/22/11 1:48pm

Emancipation89

Timmy84 said:

Emancipation89 said:

Honestly I'm still a bit confused. The voice doesn't sound like MJ at all...but when I watched the Oprah interview with Cascio family I wanted to believe them. Maybe because everyone around Michael seemed so vicious and this family seemed like they were one of the very few people who were around MJ AFTER the 2005 trial...so that must mean Michael at least trusted them...I don't know. If Cascio family were all lying, Teddy Riley's lying, Bruce Swedian and Howard Weitzman are all lying..what exactly are they lying for? There seem to be enough legit MJ tracks for new albums...? Why do they need to put these filler fake sounding songs in the new album? And no doubt Sony is only trying to make as much money as possible off of the new albums...Then why would they put some obvious fake sounding songs that would definitely make a lot of fans not buy it?

Are we not supposed to buy new MJ albums??! I can't stand Breaking News but I must admit I kinda liked Keep Your Head Up. It sounds disturbingly different from MJ's voice that I'm used to and the vibrato is so week and messed up but I don't know...2000 watts doesn't sound like MJ either...


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The Cascios could tell everyone how faithful they were to the man but these tracks don't prove they were. It's obvious WHY they did this. MONEY. Money can even turn your closest ally against you. I'm just glad Michael wasn't around to see this but then again if he was around, none of these tracks would've ever been made public.

OOPS.

So...you don't think MJ ever recorded anything with Cascio family?

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Reply #84 posted 05/22/11 1:50pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:

The Cascios could tell everyone how faithful they were to the man but these tracks don't prove they were. It's obvious WHY they did this. MONEY. Money can even turn your closest ally against you. I'm just glad Michael wasn't around to see this but then again if he was around, none of these tracks would've ever been made public.

OOPS.

So...you don't think MJ ever recorded anything with Cascio family?

I honestly don't know if he did now. There's been no proof yet to show he ever did.

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Reply #85 posted 05/22/11 2:21pm

Emancipation89

Ok thanks for your opinions...hope the next album is better...

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Reply #86 posted 05/22/11 2:31pm

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Emancipation89 said:

Timmy84 said:

The Cascios could tell everyone how faithful they were to the man but these tracks don't prove they were. It's obvious WHY they did this. MONEY. Money can even turn your closest ally against you. I'm just glad Michael wasn't around to see this but then again if he was around, none of these tracks would've ever been made public.

OOPS.

So...you don't think MJ ever recorded anything with Cascio family?

I think MJ was offered some tracks from this family, but he didn't record anything , you can hear Mj on VERY small parts of Keep your head up but that was it...he didn't finish anything , they had to hire a talentless imposter to the finish the vocals and fool the public..........

The songs should be destroyed..........

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Reply #87 posted 05/22/11 2:43pm

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Militant said:

I said this to bboy earlier, but there's too much bullshitting around, and I can't even say this shit on an MJ forum (except perhaps Max Jax, but I don't go to MJ forums regularly anyway), so I'm just gonna come right out and say it.

If you believe that any of the Cascio songs are sung by Michael Jackson, you are not a fan of Michael Jackson.

Any real fan can INSTANTLY tell the difference between Michael Jackson, one of the most iconic voices of all time who we listen to on a daily basis and have done for decades... and a weak ass imposter with a horrible, completely uncontrolled vibrato.

As soon as I heard the first two WORDS of "Breaking News" as soon as it streamed on the site, I knew it wasn't him. It was obvious that it wasn't.

Sony can go fuck themselves if they release more of that bullshit.

SAY IT AGAIN! my biracial, british, athiest twin brother from another mother highfive lol

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Reply #88 posted 05/22/11 3:07pm

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Honestly I'm still a bit confused. The voice doesn't sound like MJ at all...but when I watched the Oprah interview with Cascio family I wanted to believe them. Maybe because everyone around Michael seemed so vicious and this family seemed like they were one of the very few people who were around MJ AFTER the 2005 trial...so that must mean Michael at least trusted them...I don't know. If Cascio family were all lying, Teddy Riley's lying, Bruce Swedian and Howard Weitzman are all lying..what exactly are they lying for? There seem to be enough legit MJ tracks for new albums...? Why do they need to put these filler fake sounding songs in the new album? And no doubt Sony is only trying to make as much money as possible off of the new albums...Then why would they put some obvious fake sounding songs that would definitely make a lot of fans not buy it?

Are we not supposed to buy new MJ albums??! I can't stand Breaking News but I must admit I kinda liked Keep Your Head Up. It sounds disturbingly different from MJ's voice that I'm used to and the vibrato is so week and messed up but I don't know...2000 watts doesn't sound like MJ either...


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I totally agree with what you said. I don't believe its him but why won't anyone step up?

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Reply #89 posted 05/22/11 4:38pm

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...Holy Shit..just when u think things can`t get any worse we hear this !!!!!!Pathetic it is....

Thanks for sharing all the same..good job..

poor mike..can`t believe ppl are tainting his musicical legacy..shame on all them

you talk like that drama queen at MJJC

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