Militant said:

WildStyle said:

They get a damn 'F' on the principal alone of releasing an MJ album with 3 Jason Malachi songs on it.

true dat

Co-sign

But I'ma give a D just cuz of Best Of Joy And Much Too Soon. They're so beautiful

[Edited 3/18/11 10:05am]

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

i really dont like you!

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LMFAO! I will never get tired of that gif.

Is it just me or has KOP become MJJC Lite? I don't even recognize that place anymore

bboy87 said:

Is it just me or has KOP become MJJC Lite? I don't even recognize that place anymore

Duh.

bboy87 said:

Is it just me or has KOP become MJJC Lite? I don't even recognize that place anymore

The meanie bastards are talking trash about the Jacksons! They even have facts and all! How dare they?

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Is it just me or has KOP become MJJC Lite? I don't even recognize that place anymore

Duh.

Ya know Timmy, it used to be THE forum but now it's so like MJJC with the hate towards any Jackson not named Michael, Prince, Paris, and Blanket, the conspiracy theories, the new members who are so confrontational and sarcastic

It's weird how people will brush off the crap books like The Magic And The Madness but when it's time to bash Mrs Jackson or Jermaine or whoever, they'll throw up those same books along with Margaret's book and tabloid articles as "proof". I mean the family ain't angels by no means but damn!

Old threads from 3 or 4 years ago constantly being bumped up

Way too many threads about Lisa Marie

and what happened to threads about the music?

[Edited 3/18/11 16:14pm]

MOL said:

bboy87 said:

Is it just me or has KOP become MJJC Lite? I don't even recognize that place anymore

The meanie bastards are talking trash about the Jacksons! They even have facts and all! How dare they?

Your sarcasm is unwanted here

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Duh.

Ya know Timmy, it used to be THE forum but now it's so like MJJC with the hate towards any Jackson not named Michael, Prince, Paris, and Blanket, the conspiracy theories, the new members who are so confrontational and sarcastic

It's weird how people will brush off the crap books like The Magic And The Madness but when it's time to bash Mrs Jackson or Jermaine or whoever, they'll throw up those same books along with Margaret's book and tabloid articles as "proof". I mean the family ain't angels by no means but damn!

Old threads from 3 or 4 years ago constantly being bumped up

Way too many threads about Lisa Marie

and what happened to threads about the music?

[Edited 3/18/11 16:14pm]

True. The music got sunk in the bottom of the pits there.

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Ya know Timmy, it used to be THE forum but now it's so like MJJC with the hate towards any Jackson not named Michael, Prince, Paris, and Blanket, the conspiracy theories, the new members who are so confrontational and sarcastic

It's weird how people will brush off the crap books like The Magic And The Madness but when it's time to bash Mrs Jackson or Jermaine or whoever, they'll throw up those same books along with Margaret's book and tabloid articles as "proof". I mean the family ain't angels by no means but damn!

Old threads from 3 or 4 years ago constantly being bumped up

Way too many threads about Lisa Marie

and what happened to threads about the music?

[Edited 3/18/11 16:14pm]

True. The music got sunk in the bottom of the pits there.

Music threads being nearly nonexistant on a forum dedicated to a man who is known around the world for his music

Derek1984 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

This is what MJ had to say during his 1984 (or is it 85?) Depo about why certain songs aren't released

"I write all the time. I have so many songs, and another song will come along and beat it out; not that those aren't good enough to release because I am going to do those in the future, but it's just I get more excited about the next one and then the next one."

That explains why Buffalo Bill was later re-recorded for Bad, hence the "I am going to do those in the future" line

If MJ got more excited about Be Not Always over Buffalo Bill, well then I just lost some hope thinking Buffalo Bill could be a hidden gem. The way MJ acted in the Encino interview and what Dileo said in Rolling Stone, they both seemed very confident about Buffalo Bill. They also made it seem like it was finished. It will be interesting to hear this song one day, assuming it doesn't get butchered by Johnny.

[Edited 3/17/11 12:44pm]

I think Mike didn't want to give Victory his strong cuts. Like stated eralier, he didn't want to do the tour and album, so this was like payback. He was like "ok, I'll give y'all Be Not Always" his only full solo on the album as State of Shock and Torture were done with a Rolling Stone or a Jackson.

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

True. The music got sunk in the bottom of the pits there.

Music threads being nearly nonexistant on a forum dedicated to a man who is known around the world for his music

And by "fans" nonetheless.

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Music threads being nearly nonexistant on a forum dedicated to a man who is known around the world for his music

And by "fans" nonetheless.

Probably because a lot of them don't know anything about it and don't know what to comment or mention. I also don't know much, but I have trying to learn as much as I can and asking my friends about it. Of course the one I do ask is a huge elitist though. =/

bboy87 said:

MJJstudent said:

see, that's why i ain't runnin' the estate though... nothing from 'this is it' was finished; nor was the video game. i'm talking stuff that was ONE BILLION PERCENT FINISHED, that michael WANTED to release, but it didn't fit anywhere. that may be a smaller number of materials than unfinished stuff.

this is what i think SHOULD happen. if i was running the estate i WOULD sell everything (except the major assets), and start again. what is most important? the material items, or the legacy/teachings. to me, the values are most important. i'd sell everything and break even. then you'd never have to give into sony, and there most likely wouldn't be an argument about whether or not another 25% of ATV would be sold. or mijac.

sell havenhurst and neverland. why not? either that, or turn it into a non-profit organization. michael left there, i don't agree with trying to relive something he left.

again, with the demos, the FANS should decide. so many demos have already been uploaded by fans. just release those, instead of some lackluster 'remixed' album.

the legacy is already there, why do you need to sell the name? people who are already into him are gonna be into him. and those who knew nothing about him will learn from others. i think the marketing of michael should cease. he's not physically here to do it himself.

no, i don't see what they're doing as filling a void at all... i just see it as making money of a man. i have a lot of the t shirts, people give me things all the time. i see books on michael all the time at the bookstore, even before 2009. and if you don't see stuff, there was plenty of stuff on ebay before 2009. which is actually where i got most of the michael stuff that was not given to me.

if i didn't have any of that stuff my love for michael would not lessen. they are selling an emotional connection to material things, through their marketing of him. they are not bringing home the message he was teaching. and to basically make a posthumous deal with sony is essentially betrayal, in my opinion.

this is my #1 problem with the estate. it's straight on corporatism. i give them an F (and a D-, if I was being generous).

again, this is why i am not running the estate.

If Michael wasn't willing to sell those assets, then the estate should keep them. Keep Hayvenhurst and Neverland and when the kids get older, they should decide on the fate of the properties.

the Michael Jackson brand that Michael built for years had to be repaired. Michael was dealt some serious blows the last 20 years of his life. The marketing will always be there because his work has to live on, and in order for it to live on, they have to find various platforms for people to discover/rediscover him. There are people who discovering him through not just the music, but the new video game, through the Vision DVD set and there's gonna little kids who are going to be discovering him through all these platforms.

You're right, stuff was on eBay, but in stores in the states? nonexistant. Vanilli and I were talking about how when we were growing up, finding a Michael Jackson poster or book or anything was nearly impossible. All estates of celebrities do it. Elvis, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown.....the list goes on and on (although if I see Michael Jackson toilet paper, there's going to be a problem

Right now, it's about rebuilding the brand. Michael knew this. When Michael was still here, there would be Michael Jackson dolls, wallets, jackets, shirts, record players, video games, notebooks, coloring books, hats, perfume.....

AGAIN, this is why i keep saying that fortunately i ain't runnin' the estate. even if michael thought of himself as a brand (unfortunately) I DON'T. he is a man. and ideally i would run the estate with that intention. i would promote his messages instead of trying to re-sell 'thriller' for the 20,00th time.

the thing is as well, michael OR the estate don't own real estate. if you pay estate/income tax, you don't own a thang. you are giving all your money to the government. so SELL THE HOUSES, and work on retaining the assets michael actually owns.

the work will live on as long as people keep promoting the messages. it's not like anything he's already done will go away, simply because you don't release any new materials. people remember bach, even though you don't see people jumping on remix albums every day.

if people wanna discover/rediscover michael's art, go purchase albums and art that already exist. why doesn't the estate do that, instead of cosigning lackluster material and projects?

i'm from new york, so there's always been michael stuff all over the place, even when he wasn't 'popular'.

a lot of those projects michael worked on in his lifetime fell through as well- 'michael's pets', the l.a. gear thing, even 'dancing the dream' didn't do as well as they wanted it to. i get the whole promotion and marketing thing- michael was all about it. i'm just not that into it. we are PEOPLE, not products.

and yeah, i have a lot of those dolls, books and such, but when it comes down to it, as i said before, if i had none of that stuff, it wouldn't stop my appreciation for him.

the only company/campaign i see honoring him in a decent way is the hot toys series. they also began doing it prior to his transition.

and just to make it clear, i'm not into the idea of ANY of that posthumous stuff, beit james brown, tupac, jimi hendrix, etc. i say the point of an estate is to privately get the individual's business and bills together. how these estates do it to me is exploitative. STOP RELEASING NEW STUFF! these people are no longer here!!!

i'm sure this is another thing i am alone in, but that's just how i feel about it. so i don't deal with anything posthumous of michael's really. unless i know that he cosigned onto it ONE BILLION PERCENT- ON HIS OWN with NO influence from sony, etc. then i don't acknowledge it at this point.

WildStyle said:

They get a damn 'F' on the principal alone of releasing an MJ album with 3 Jason Malachi songs on it.

yes indeed.

Unholyalliance said:

MJJstudent said:

i would DEFINITELY argue for 'wanna be startin' somethin'' being a social commentary, as well as 'beat it'. and i see 'billie jean' as having a sort of message... for me though, i prefer 'why you wanna trip on me, 'man in the mirror', and ESPECIALLY 'they don't care about us'- songs where the political commentary is blatant. more blatant than the ones on thriller, anyways. i prefer when he's straight up pissed off.

songs like 'we've had enough'- that is one of michael's GREATEST SONGS OF ALL TIMES. these are the songs i love hearing from michael. the ones that are blatantly political. no two ways about it.

and i hate 'dirty diana' and 'who is it' with a deep passion. those are two songs i'd be perfectly happy if i never heard for the rest of my life. those, and 'PYT'. 'tabloid junkie' i like (it fits the theme of HIStory perfectly) and i like 'threatened' as well, for a conclusion to the story of 'invincible.

LOL You are killing me here. x_X

The complete opposite is true for me. Omg, I remember when I first heard Why You Wanna Trip On Me, and when the words started I skipped that song so fast. Those lyrics...get me every single time. They just seem so utterly juvenile to me. I mean...yeah I get it, but UGH. I usually love his social commentary songs, but that one? Omg...it pains me to listen to it. The beat is great though. What sucks it's the one time I can totally understand everything he's saying. Usually I can't so I just listen to him making incomprehensible sounds.

Same thing with You Are Not Alone. Something about that song makes me run out of the vicinity that I hear it being played in. Every. Single. Time. The only part I like are the ad-libs and that long note he holds at the end. Same thing with Cry, I hate that song as well. Actually, I dislike a lot of R.Kelly's work, but I will take his oversexed work anyday of the week.

i find 'why you wanna trip on me' to be quite a mature work... how many popular artists question the emphasis on celebrity/'trivial things' as opposed to the larger socio-political issues? 'why y'all choose to focus on whether or not i blow my nose, instead of focusing on the war on the poor?'

i think it's one of his greatest works. i also love the sonic layering. the production/engineering is phenomenal. michael didn't write the song, but you heard his influence and arrangement all over it.

'cry' and 'you are not alone' are actually the only two robert kelly songs i like. i think the man is a hack. and besides THOSE two songs, i find an immaturity ion his work you happen to find with 'why you wanna trip on me'.

MJJstudent said:

bboy87 said:

If Michael wasn't willing to sell those assets, then the estate should keep them. Keep Hayvenhurst and Neverland and when the kids get older, they should decide on the fate of the properties.

the Michael Jackson brand that Michael built for years had to be repaired. Michael was dealt some serious blows the last 20 years of his life. The marketing will always be there because his work has to live on, and in order for it to live on, they have to find various platforms for people to discover/rediscover him. There are people who discovering him through not just the music, but the new video game, through the Vision DVD set and there's gonna little kids who are going to be discovering him through all these platforms.

You're right, stuff was on eBay, but in stores in the states? nonexistant. Vanilli and I were talking about how when we were growing up, finding a Michael Jackson poster or book or anything was nearly impossible. All estates of celebrities do it. Elvis, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown.....the list goes on and on (although if I see Michael Jackson toilet paper, there's going to be a problem

Right now, it's about rebuilding the brand. Michael knew this. When Michael was still here, there would be Michael Jackson dolls, wallets, jackets, shirts, record players, video games, notebooks, coloring books, hats, perfume.....

AGAIN, this is why i keep saying that fortunately i ain't runnin' the estate. even if michael thought of himself as a brand (unfortunately) I DON'T. he is a man. and ideally i would run the estate with that intention. i would promote his messages instead of trying to re-sell 'thriller' for the 20,00th time.

the thing is as well, michael OR the estate don't own real estate. if you pay estate/income tax, you don't own a thang. you are giving all your money to the government. so SELL THE HOUSES, and work on retaining the assets michael actually owns.

the work will live on as long as people keep promoting the messages. it's not like anything he's already done will go away, simply because you don't release any new materials. people remember bach, even though you don't see people jumping on remix albums every day.

if people wanna discover/rediscover michael's art, go purchase albums and art that already exist. why doesn't the estate do that, instead of cosigning lackluster material and projects?

i'm from new york, so there's always been michael stuff all over the place, even when he wasn't 'popular'.

a lot of those projects michael worked on in his lifetime fell through as well- 'michael's pets', the l.a. gear thing, even 'dancing the dream' didn't do as well as they wanted it to. i get the whole promotion and marketing thing- michael was all about it. i'm just not that into it. we are PEOPLE, not products.

and yeah, i have a lot of those dolls, books and such, but when it comes down to it, as i said before, if i had none of that stuff, it wouldn't stop my appreciation for him.

the only company/campaign i see honoring him in a decent way is the hot toys series. they also began doing it prior to his transition.

and just to make it clear, i'm not into the idea of ANY of that posthumous stuff, beit james brown, tupac, jimi hendrix, etc. i say the point of an estate is to privately get the individual's business and bills together. how these estates do it to me is exploitative. STOP RELEASING NEW STUFF! these people are no longer here!!!

i'm sure this is another thing i am alone in, but that's just how i feel about it. so i don't deal with anything posthumous of michael's really. unless i know that he cosigned onto it ONE BILLION PERCENT- ON HIS OWN with NO influence from sony, etc. then i don't acknowledge it at this point.

It's odd for me to even say this but besides from albums, I've hardly bought merchandise of Michael (or any artist that I really admire). I was always more about the music than the brand.

Timmy84 said:

MJJstudent said:

AGAIN, this is why i keep saying that fortunately i ain't runnin' the estate. even if michael thought of himself as a brand (unfortunately) I DON'T. he is a man. and ideally i would run the estate with that intention. i would promote his messages instead of trying to re-sell 'thriller' for the 20,00th time.

the thing is as well, michael OR the estate don't own real estate. if you pay estate/income tax, you don't own a thang. you are giving all your money to the government. so SELL THE HOUSES, and work on retaining the assets michael actually owns.

the work will live on as long as people keep promoting the messages. it's not like anything he's already done will go away, simply because you don't release any new materials. people remember bach, even though you don't see people jumping on remix albums every day.

if people wanna discover/rediscover michael's art, go purchase albums and art that already exist. why doesn't the estate do that, instead of cosigning lackluster material and projects?

i'm from new york, so there's always been michael stuff all over the place, even when he wasn't 'popular'.

a lot of those projects michael worked on in his lifetime fell through as well- 'michael's pets', the l.a. gear thing, even 'dancing the dream' didn't do as well as they wanted it to. i get the whole promotion and marketing thing- michael was all about it. i'm just not that into it. we are PEOPLE, not products.

and yeah, i have a lot of those dolls, books and such, but when it comes down to it, as i said before, if i had none of that stuff, it wouldn't stop my appreciation for him.

the only company/campaign i see honoring him in a decent way is the hot toys series. they also began doing it prior to his transition.

and just to make it clear, i'm not into the idea of ANY of that posthumous stuff, beit james brown, tupac, jimi hendrix, etc. i say the point of an estate is to privately get the individual's business and bills together. how these estates do it to me is exploitative. STOP RELEASING NEW STUFF! these people are no longer here!!!

i'm sure this is another thing i am alone in, but that's just how i feel about it. so i don't deal with anything posthumous of michael's really. unless i know that he cosigned onto it ONE BILLION PERCENT- ON HIS OWN with NO influence from sony, etc. then i don't acknowledge it at this point.

It's odd for me to even say this but besides from albums, I've hardly bought merchandise of Michael (or any artist that I really admire). I was always more about the music than the brand.

tim, indeed... i mostly happen to like what he does OUTSIDE of the music, truthfully... i'm more into the speeches and appearances he gave, the 'goodwill missions', so to speak. the music is secondary to me. but it comes with the territoty, i guess.

it's hard to find people to communicate with who love him outside of the music, and simply love, say, the exeter or oxford speeches. who love the political work he did.

i DO have a lot of michael-related material items, but i'll take listening to those speeches (and watching them) any day, than hearing any of his albums. THAT is the michael that means a lot to me. i don't care so much about michael the performer/musician, than i do about michael the social activist.

so we ARE on a different page in relation to our interest in him, but i DEFINITELY feel what you are saying.

MJJstudent said:

bboy87 said:

If Michael wasn't willing to sell those assets, then the estate should keep them. Keep Hayvenhurst and Neverland and when the kids get older, they should decide on the fate of the properties.

the Michael Jackson brand that Michael built for years had to be repaired. Michael was dealt some serious blows the last 20 years of his life. The marketing will always be there because his work has to live on, and in order for it to live on, they have to find various platforms for people to discover/rediscover him. There are people who discovering him through not just the music, but the new video game, through the Vision DVD set and there's gonna little kids who are going to be discovering him through all these platforms.

You're right, stuff was on eBay, but in stores in the states? nonexistant. Vanilli and I were talking about how when we were growing up, finding a Michael Jackson poster or book or anything was nearly impossible. All estates of celebrities do it. Elvis, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown.....the list goes on and on (although if I see Michael Jackson toilet paper, there's going to be a problem

Right now, it's about rebuilding the brand. Michael knew this. When Michael was still here, there would be Michael Jackson dolls, wallets, jackets, shirts, record players, video games, notebooks, coloring books, hats, perfume.....

AGAIN, this is why i keep saying that fortunately i ain't runnin' the estate. even if michael thought of himself as a brand (unfortunately) I DON'T. he is a man. and ideally i would run the estate with that intention. i would promote his messages instead of trying to re-sell 'thriller' for the 20,00th time.

the thing is as well, michael OR the estate don't own real estate. if you pay estate/income tax, you don't own a thang. you are giving all your money to the government. so SELL THE HOUSES, and work on retaining the assets michael actually owns.

the work will live on as long as people keep promoting the messages. it's not like anything he's already done will go away, simply because you don't release any new materials. people remember bach, even though you don't see people jumping on remix albums every day.

if people wanna discover/rediscover michael's art, go purchase albums and art that already exist. why doesn't the estate do that, instead of cosigning lackluster material and projects?

i'm from new york, so there's always been michael stuff all over the place, even when he wasn't 'popular'.

a lot of those projects michael worked on in his lifetime fell through as well- 'michael's pets', the l.a. gear thing, even 'dancing the dream' didn't do as well as they wanted it to. i get the whole promotion and marketing thing- michael was all about it. i'm just not that into it. we are PEOPLE, not products.

and yeah, i have a lot of those dolls, books and such, but when it comes down to it, as i said before, if i had none of that stuff, it wouldn't stop my appreciation for him.

the only company/campaign i see honoring him in a decent way is the hot toys series. they also began doing it prior to his transition.

and just to make it clear, i'm not into the idea of ANY of that posthumous stuff, beit james brown, tupac, jimi hendrix, etc. i say the point of an estate is to privately get the individual's business and bills together. how these estates do it to me is exploitative. STOP RELEASING NEW STUFF! these people are no longer here!!!

i'm sure this is another thing i am alone in, but that's just how i feel about it. so i don't deal with anything posthumous of michael's really. unless i know that he cosigned onto it ONE BILLION PERCENT- ON HIS OWN with NO influence from sony, etc. then i don't acknowledge it at this point.

I think with unreleased material, it definitely exploitaive, but so much music in the vaults and so much that fans want to hear, the best way to do it is leave the material in untouched form. Don't remix it, don't "finish" it without the artist being here.

New York has alot of stuff? I gotta visit because until Michael passed, there was NOTHING here in Northern Cali. I remember ranting that Barnes and Noble had ROWS of books on Rolling Stone, The Beatles, Led Zepplin, Ozzy Osbourne, The Who, and Pink Floyd, but you'd be hard pressed to find books on Michael, Prince, Stevie, and James Brown. I helped out on the "For The Record" book and thought "this book is #1 on Amazon but you can't find it in stores?!"

bboy87 said:

I think with unreleased material, it definitely exploitaive, but so much music in the vaults and so much that fans want to hear, the best way to do it is leave the material in untouched form. Don't remix it, don't "finish" it without the artist being here.

New York has alot of stuff? I gotta visit because until Michael passed, there was NOTHING here in Northern Cali. I remember ranting that Barnes and Noble had ROWS of books on Rolling Stone, The Beatles, Led Zepplin, Ozzy Osbourne, The Who, and Pink Floyd, but you'd be hard pressed to find books on Michael, Prince, Stevie, and James Brown. I helped out on the "For The Record" book and thought "this book is #1 on Amazon but you can't find it in stores?!"

exactly... if you INSIST on releasing anything, leave it untouched.

i left NYC in 2000, so i don't know if they had any stuff when i left. but michael made a few appearances in new york after i left, so i would think they had some stuff of his. i know in portland, at the powell's bookstore, they've always had books on michael as well. i used to see them all the time before 2009. and DEFINITELY books on STEVIE.

but people give me STEVIE and michael books all the time too, so i have all these books.

Tour Expanding to 17 New Cities, Adding Dates As Anticipation Grows

Longtime Michael Jackson Collaborator Greg Phillinganes, Top Musical Designer Kevin Antunes Joining Creative Team

Exclusive Pre-Sale Starts March 9 and General Onsale Begins March 12

Montreal, March 9, 2011 – With anticipation growing for the launch of Michael Jackson THE IMMORTAL World Tour, Cirque du Soleil announced today it is adding 17 new cities to its tour in advance of its World Premiere October 2 in Montreal. In addition, new dates are being added to the existing schedule or extra seats released in more than 25 cities across North America.

Cirque du Soleil also announced that Greg Phillinganes, one of Michael Jackson’s key creative collaborators on some of his most memorable tours and albums, has joined the Michael Jackson THE IMMORTAL World Tour creative team as music director, providing an unparalleled depth of knowledge of Michael’s music and the live Michael Jackson experience. Phillinganes was music director for Michael’s Bad and Dangerous tours and worked on such iconic albums as Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, Invincible, and the latest release Michael.

Kevin Antunes, one of the industry’s top musical designers, will join creative team as musical designer and will also team with Phillinganes to work on the score for this landmark production. Antunes has worked directly for Madonna, Justin Timberlake and *NSYNC, and has performed with artists such as Janet Jackson, Timbaland, Britney Spears, Aerosmith, Mary J Blige, Alicia Keys, Taylor Swift, Snoop Dogg and Christina Aguilera, among others.

For tour cities and ticket information, please go to http://www.cirquedusoleil...aelJackson

About the show
A riveting fusion of visuals, dance, music and fantasy that immerses audiences in Michael’s creative world and literally turns his signature moves upside down, Michael Jackson THE IMMORTAL World Tour unfolds Michael Jackson’s artistry before the eyes of the audience. Aimed at lifelong fans as well as those experiencing Michael’s creative genius for the first time, the show captures the essence, soul and inspiration of the King of Pop, celebrating a legacy that continues to transcend generations.

THE IMMORTAL World Tour takes place in a fantastical realm where we discover Michael’s inspirational Giving Tree—a wellspring of creativity that illuminates for the audience Michael’s thoughtful inner world, offering new paths to express his love for music, dance, fairy tale and magic, and the fragile beauty of nature.

The underpinnings of THE IMMORTAL World Tour are Michael Jackson’s powerful, inspirational music and lyrics—the driving force behind the show—brought to life with extraordinary power and breathless intensity. Through unforgettable performances Michael Jackson THE IMMORTAL World Tour underscores Michael’s global messages of love, peace and unity.

Creative Team - Click on “Meet the Creators” for bio information.
Guy Laliberté – Creative Guide
Chantal Tremblay – Director of Creation
Jamie King – Writer and Director
Kevin Antunes – Musical Designer
Greg Phillinganes – Music Director
Mark Fisher – Set Designer
Michael Curry – Props and Scenic Designer
Zaldy Goco – Costume Designer
Germain Guillemot – Acrobatic Performance Designer
Scott Osgood – Rigging and Acrobatic Equipment Designer
Olivier Goulet – Projection Designer
Martin Labrecque – Lighting Designer

MJJstudent said:

Timmy84 said:

It's odd for me to even say this but besides from albums, I've hardly bought merchandise of Michael (or any artist that I really admire). I was always more about the music than the brand.

tim, indeed... i mostly happen to like what he does OUTSIDE of the music, truthfully... i'm more into the speeches and appearances he gave, the 'goodwill missions', so to speak. the music is secondary to me. but it comes with the territoty, i guess.

it's hard to find people to communicate with who love him outside of the music, and simply love, say, the exeter or oxford speeches. who love the political work he did.

i DO have a lot of michael-related material items, but i'll take listening to those speeches (and watching them) any day, than hearing any of his albums. THAT is the michael that means a lot to me. i don't care so much about michael the performer/musician, than i do about michael the social activist.

so we ARE on a different page in relation to our interest in him, but i DEFINITELY feel what you are saying.

I feel his humanitarian side too.

bboy87 said:

MOL said:

The meanie bastards are talking trash about the Jacksons! They even have facts and all! How dare they?

Your sarcasm is unwanted here

This.

MOL, you are boring the fuck out of everyone now. Yes, the Jacksons are so evil and scum and blah blah blah blah blah. We heard you the first time. We tolerated you the next thousand times. Now you're just a boring, sarcastic broken record. And not even a good broken record at that. Certainly not a "Bad" or a "Dangerous".... more like a Vanilla Ice, "2 The Extreme".

Why don't you go set up a "We hate The Jacksons, they suck" forum or something?

bboy87 said:

MOL said:

The meanie bastards are talking trash about the Jacksons! They even have facts and all! How dare they?

Your sarcasm is unwanted here

Exactly. None of that here, please.

Timmy84 said:

Oh yes...

HAPPYPERSON said:

Tour Expanding to 17 New Cities, Adding Dates As Anticipation Grows

Longtime Michael Jackson Collaborator Greg Phillinganes, Top Musical Designer Kevin Antunes Joining Creative Team

Exclusive Pre-Sale Starts March 9 and General Onsale Begins March 12

Montreal, March 9, 2011 – With anticipation growing for the launch of Michael Jackson THE IMMORTAL World Tour, Cirque du Soleil announced today it is adding 17 new cities to its tour in advance of its World Premiere October 2 in Montreal. In addition, new dates are being added to the existing schedule or extra seats released in more than 25 cities across North America.

Cirque du Soleil also announced that Greg Phillinganes, one of Michael Jackson’s key creative collaborators on some of his most memorable tours and albums, has joined the Michael Jackson THE IMMORTAL World Tour creative team as music director, providing an unparalleled depth of knowledge of Michael’s music and the live Michael Jackson experience. Phillinganes was music director for Michael’s Bad and Dangerous tours and worked on such iconic albums as Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, Invincible, and the latest release Michael.

Kevin Antunes, one of the industry’s top musical designers, will join creative team as musical designer and will also team with Phillinganes to work on the score for this landmark production. Antunes has worked directly for Madonna, Justin Timberlake and *NSYNC, and has performed with artists such as Janet Jackson, Timbaland, Britney Spears, Aerosmith, Mary J Blige, Alicia Keys, Taylor Swift, Snoop Dogg and Christina Aguilera, among others.

For tour cities and ticket information, please go to http://www.cirquedusoleil...aelJackson

About the show
A riveting fusion of visuals, dance, music and fantasy that immerses audiences in Michael’s creative world and literally turns his signature moves upside down, Michael Jackson THE IMMORTAL World Tour unfolds Michael Jackson’s artistry before the eyes of the audience. Aimed at lifelong fans as well as those experiencing Michael’s creative genius for the first time, the show captures the essence, soul and inspiration of the King of Pop, celebrating a legacy that continues to transcend generations.

THE IMMORTAL World Tour takes place in a fantastical realm where we discover Michael’s inspirational Giving Tree—a wellspring of creativity that illuminates for the audience Michael’s thoughtful inner world, offering new paths to express his love for music, dance, fairy tale and magic, and the fragile beauty of nature.

The underpinnings of THE IMMORTAL World Tour are Michael Jackson’s powerful, inspirational music and lyrics—the driving force behind the show—brought to life with extraordinary power and breathless intensity. Through unforgettable performances Michael Jackson THE IMMORTAL World Tour underscores Michael’s global messages of love, peace and unity.

Creative Team - Click on “Meet the Creators” for bio information.
Guy Laliberté – Creative Guide
Chantal Tremblay – Director of Creation
Jamie King – Writer and Director
Kevin Antunes – Musical Designer
Greg Phillinganes – Music Director
Mark Fisher – Set Designer
Michael Curry – Props and Scenic Designer
Zaldy Goco – Costume Designer
Germain Guillemot – Acrobatic Performance Designer
Scott Osgood – Rigging and Acrobatic Equipment Designer
Olivier Goulet – Projection Designer
Martin Labrecque – Lighting Designer

i may be the only person on this forum who feels this way, but to me, this is TRULY sad and disappointing news. i thought he would be one of the few to not get involved in this mess.

Timmy84 said:

this is one of my favourite songs on the invincible album. invincible is also one of my favourite albums of michael's.

Militant said:

bboy87 said:

Your sarcasm is unwanted here

This.

MOL, you are boring the fuck out of everyone now. Yes, the Jacksons are so evil and scum and blah blah blah blah blah. We heard you the first time. We tolerated you the next thousand times. Now you're just a boring, sarcastic broken record. And not even a good broken record at that. Certainly not a "Bad" or a "Dangerous".... more like a Vanilla Ice, "2 The Extreme".

Why don't you go set up a "We hate The Jacksons, they suck" forum or something?

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JC's Stripped Mix of Hollywood Tonight

bboy87 said:

JC's Stripped Mix of Hollywood Tonight

Ummm...Is this an MJ record because I usually ignore it when it comes on. Sounds a little like Jason on some parts. Maybe he went in to "finish" it?