MJJstudent said:

silverchild said:

The album could've definitely had more justice without "The Girl Is Mine." I actually like that song, but it would've been better suited for just a warm-up single, which it was in the first place. After the reception it got, they should've reconsidered and used a better track. An uptempo funk-pop cut would've been a perfect choice after "Baby Be Mine" too!

now, if THIS version were on it:

THEN it would be great... but they just HAD to add mc cartney, didn't they? listen to that! the strings are lush... everything about it is richer. it sounds more like a jazz-pop song, as opposed to schmaltz.

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This is the version I prefer also. Paul's voice isn't exactly one of my favorite sounds, so I can totally do w/o him on the song, altho when it comes up in the ipod I usually listen anyway for nostalgia's sake.

This version of TGIM and that lush slow jam-y version of PYT are my fav alt versions/demos from Thriller. I get what folks are saying about replacing certain songs, but when I hear songs like Carousel and Nightline I KNOW why they didn't put those on the album, they are just not stellar songs. Carousel? I know that was Mike's schtick back then but he's a grown ass man singing about popcorn and cotton candy? Pony rides and circus girls? I mean I get the meaning behind the song and all, but... I just can't.

Baby Be Mine is my ish, I just absolutely adore his voice on that song. It's almost screechy in some places, but it's controlled screechy if that makes any sense. Just divine. That has to stay on the album!

ViintageJunkiie said:

SherryJackson said:

I'm with ya on that. I wonder what they did before they "ran out of gas". Dancing at a soda shoppe? Prom? What?

Thats what I'm saying. Although it did get straight to the point, I would have loved to see something like

Showing them at school and MJ's friends saying "just ask her out!" and MJ laughing and saying something like "yeah right! she wouldnt be caught dead with someone like me" when the whole time she DOES like him. He approaches her with a simple "hi" while Ola's friends giggle and walk off, leaving them 2 alone. MJ compliments her a few times and then asks her out on a movie date. THEN, show them leaving from the movie theater. Ola saying "we should stop and get gas" and MJ replying with "don't worry! we have enough" and then.........................................

*car runs outta gas*

MJ: Honestly, we're outta gas...

and you guys know the rest

That's why I always wonder if there was footage that was left out. When John Landis had that script in "Making of Thriller", I wondered why because there was like 8 lines total in the film

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Thats what I'm saying. Although it did get straight to the point, I would have loved to see something like

Showing them at school and MJ's friends saying "just ask her out!" and MJ laughing and saying something like "yeah right! she wouldnt be caught dead with someone like me" when the whole time she DOES like him. He approaches her with a simple "hi" while Ola's friends giggle and walk off, leaving them 2 alone. MJ compliments her a few times and then asks her out on a movie date. THEN, show them leaving from the movie theater. Ola saying "we should stop and get gas" and MJ replying with "don't worry! we have enough" and then.........................................

*car runs outta gas*

MJ: Honestly, we're outta gas...

and you guys know the rest

That's why I always wonder if there was footage that was left out. When John Landis had that script in "Making of Thriller", I wondered why because there was like 8 lines total in the film

The script would have been more than just the 8 lines - most likely it was a shooting script depicting each scene and shot.

Thriller's genius was that it did cut to the chase. It gave you the movie in a movie set up, made you go wow, then got into the song.

jaybendy said:

MJJstudent said:

now, if THIS version were on it:

THEN it would be great... but they just HAD to add mc cartney, didn't they? listen to that! the strings are lush... everything about it is richer. it sounds more like a jazz-pop song, as opposed to schmaltz.

[Edited 3/16/11 1:17am]

This is the version I prefer also. Paul's voice isn't exactly one of my favorite sounds, so I can totally do w/o him on the song, altho when it comes up in the ipod I usually listen anyway for nostalgia's sake.

This version of TGIM and that lush slow jam-y version of PYT are my fav alt versions/demos from Thriller. I get what folks are saying about replacing certain songs, but when I hear songs like Carousel and Nightline I KNOW why they didn't put those on the album, they are just not stellar songs. Carousel? I know that was Mike's schtick back then but he's a grown ass man singing about popcorn and cotton candy? Pony rides and circus girls? I mean I get the meaning behind the song and all, but... I just can't.

Baby Be Mine is my ish, I just absolutely adore his voice on that song. It's almost screechy in some places, but it's controlled screechy if that makes any sense. Just divine. That has to stay on the album!

When I first heard a snippet of this during the Mexico trial I was like - wow this jazzy feel is fresher than the MOR pop it ended up being. I still prefer the this to the final version, though I would have liked to see how it would have sounded with Paul and MJ.

I agree with jaybendy on why tracks weren't included. The first time I heard songs like Trouble, Nightline and Carousel I was like "phew" good thing they didn't make it on the album. Hearing them had me worried for a while thinking the tracks on Thriller were maybe more fluke that craft.

With the exception of Behind the Mask - I haven't heard a Thriller outtake that I think deserved to be on the album above another track. It's easy now in reflection to think it's calculated and the impact at the ease at which it cross genres has greatly diminished over time. I can still remember buying it back in 83 and just being blown away with the way the album played out - you didn't know what was going to come next.

I think I have to disagree with a lot of you here about Baby Be Mine. That is, still, my least favorite track on Thriller. While it may be a nice track it still feels a lot weaker & underwhelming to the rest of the songs in comparison. Not only that, but it sounds super dated too.

I do agree that the album version of The Girl Is Mine isn't as good as the demo, but I understand why it was done and its significance to the market at the time of release though. As with PYT, I really, really like both MJ's demo and the final version that ended up being there. They are both amazing, but I am of the impression that if Behind the Mask would have been included, he would have covered electronica too which would have been awesome.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ne_jackson

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Finally talk about the MUSIC.

I think Thriller as an album is perfection. Baby Be Mine does sound the most dated on the album but that doesn't bother me the least. It's still a great, quality song I happen to play A LOT. In fact, it's my ringtone

Now for the demo's and unreleased: Behind The Mask wouldn't seem to me to fit on the album. Perhaps it's because it uses a sample, but I think Thriller had just the right amount of dance songs on it. Now several tracks the intrigue me; You Told Me Your Lovin'... Who Do You Know... Rolling The Dice... Remember This Night... Those all seem like they could potentially be REALLY good songs. Of course that depends on how much they were finished. IMO, if they were really that good, they would've been included on Victory.

I like Hot Street and Got The Hots. But it's obvious why they didn't make the cut - too weak compared to the other material.

I think the story about how Thriller sounded like crap when it was finished and how it had to be shortened re-mixed and how MJ almost didn't want to release the project at all is a fascinating story in itself. Thriller is the biggest selling album of all time and deservedly so.

NaughtyKitty said:

His turn: Jermaine Jackson has book deal

Associated Press - 1 hour, 27 minutes ago

NEW YORK - A long-rumored memoir by Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine is finally coming out.

Touchstone announced Wednesday that Jermaine Jackson's "You are Not Alone: Michael: Through a Brother's Eye" will be released this fall. Touchstone, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, promises a "faithful and loving portrait," but one with "no subject off limits."

Jackson spoke in 2003 of wanting to write a memoir and reports surfaced again after Michael's death, in 2009.

Sisters Janet Jackson and La Toya Jackson also have books out this year.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news...deal/58541

I think we've heard enough from Jermaine's stupid ass about his dearest darling brother in Word 2 The Bad.

Swa said:

bboy87 said:

That's why I always wonder if there was footage that was left out. When John Landis had that script in "Making of Thriller", I wondered why because there was like 8 lines total in the film

The script would have been more than just the 8 lines - most likely it was a shooting script depicting each scene and shot.

Thriller's genius was that it did cut to the chase. It gave you the movie in a movie set up, made you go wow, then got into the song.

I really think they should have added more to the "movie" scene. Again, adding a storyline before running out of gas would have did wonders! When I was a kid, I used to just watch the short film, but even then, I used to ask where were they coming from OR going

NaughtyKitty said:

His turn: Jermaine Jackson has book deal

Associated Press - 1 hour, 27 minutes ago

NEW YORK - A long-rumored memoir by Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine is finally coming out.

Touchstone announced Wednesday that Jermaine Jackson's "You are Not Alone: Michael: Through a Brother's Eye" will be released this fall. Touchstone, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, promises a "faithful and loving portrait," but one with "no subject off limits."

Jackson spoke in 2003 of wanting to write a memoir and reports surfaced again after Michael's death, in 2009.

Sisters Janet Jackson and La Toya Jackson also have books out this year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ne_jackson

[Edited 3/16/11 10:03am]

I am gonna wait and see how "loving" it is since he got a book deal and "no subjects are off limits".

[Edited 3/16/11 12:05pm]

I never look at this thread, so I don't know if this has been posted before or not, but it's an interesting video.

MickyDolenz said:

I never look at this thread, so I don't know if this has been posted before or not, but it's an interesting video.

Oh, thanks for posting. The episode has just aired here one of the local channels here this week. Love it.

ViintageJunkiie said:

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Does anyone have this picture?

NaughtyKitty said:

His turn: Jermaine Jackson has book deal

Associated Press - 1 hour, 27 minutes ago

NEW YORK - A long-rumored memoir by Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine is finally coming out.

Touchstone announced Wednesday that Jermaine Jackson's "You are Not Alone: Michael: Through a Brother's Eye" will be released this fall. Touchstone, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, promises a "faithful and loving portrait," but one with "no subject off limits."

Jackson spoke in 2003 of wanting to write a memoir and reports surfaced again after Michael's death, in 2009.

Sisters Janet Jackson and La Toya Jackson also have books out this year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ne_jackson

[Edited 3/16/11 10:03am]

This aging idiot will never get it would he? Greasy motherfucker.

MJJstudent said:

silverchild said:

The album could've definitely had more justice without "The Girl Is Mine." I actually like that song, but it would've been better suited for just a warm-up single, which it was in the first place. After the reception it got, they should've reconsidered and used a better track. An uptempo funk-pop cut would've been a perfect choice after "Baby Be Mine" too!

now, if THIS version were on it:

THEN it would be great... but they just HAD to add mc cartney, didn't they? listen to that! the strings are lush... everything about it is richer. it sounds more like a jazz-pop song, as opposed to schmaltz.

[Edited 3/16/11 1:17am]

The demo always sounded like a FULL song to me.

Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

His turn: Jermaine Jackson has book deal

Associated Press - 1 hour, 27 minutes ago

NEW YORK - A long-rumored memoir by Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine is finally coming out.

Touchstone announced Wednesday that Jermaine Jackson's "You are Not Alone: Michael: Through a Brother's Eye" will be released this fall. Touchstone, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, promises a "faithful and loving portrait," but one with "no subject off limits."

Jackson spoke in 2003 of wanting to write a memoir and reports surfaced again after Michael's death, in 2009.

Sisters Janet Jackson and La Toya Jackson also have books out this year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ne_jackson

[Edited 3/16/11 10:03am]

This aging idiot will never get it would he? Greasy motherfucker.

He'll never get it cuz all that hair grease done leaked inside his head and clogged up his brain

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

This aging idiot will never get it would he? Greasy motherfucker.

He'll never get it cuz all that hair grease done leaked inside his head and clogged up his brain

It has clogged up his brain since '84.

Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

He'll never get it cuz all that hair grease done leaked inside his head and clogged up his brain

It has clogged up his brain since '84.

Ah, that explains it--why he's been stuck on stupid the past 2 1/2 decades lol

Unholyalliance said:

I think I have to disagree with a lot of you here about Baby Be Mine. That is, still, my least favorite track on Thriller. While it may be a nice track it still feels a lot weaker & underwhelming to the rest of the songs in comparison. Not only that, but it sounds super dated too.

I do agree that the album version of The Girl Is Mine isn't as good as the demo, but I understand why it was done and its significance to the market at the time of release though. As with PYT, I really, really like both MJ's demo and the final version that ended up being there. They are both amazing, but I am of the impression that if Behind the Mask would have been included, he would have covered electronica too which would have been awesome.

I personally love "Baby Be Mine" and think it's better than "The Girl Is Mine". "Baby Be Mine" and "Lady In My Life" are the two songs on the "Thriller" that haven't been overplayed, so I guess that's another reason why I like "Baby Be Mine". It's a little gem of a song that hasn't gotten much attention, but it's one of my fave MJ songs. His vocals are great in it. I love everything about that song. It's a fun song and always puts me in a good mood.

Michael...

Just, thank you.

What ol' Jermy Spice wrote on twitter..

why does the good faith of a brother's tribute have to be besmirched by a few who find the negative in a positive endeavor rooted in love?

Bitch please...it means money...maybe now you can finally pay Alejandra.

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SherryJackson said:

What ol' Jermy Spice wrote on twitter..

@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson

why does the good faith of a brother's tribute have to be besmirched by a few who find the negative in a positive endeavor rooted in love?

Bitch please...it means money...maybe now you can finally pay Alejandra.

[Edited 3/16/11 16:28pm]

Someone remind this fool why no one trusts him.

Good to see the discussion on music again - and as everyone is talking about Thriller - here's my recollection on the album.

Share yours.

THRILLER

It’s hard to write about Thriller and not talk about how many records it broke, how many awards it garnered or how it truly revolutionised how music was produced, packaged and visualised. For the record industry, and for Michael himself, there will always be a pre-Thriller and post Thriller period. A time when he went from star, to superstar to supernova. Some even listen to the music now and might question why it is touted as being such a genre-breaking album when these days mixing rock with funk with pop with soul with middle of the road seems run of the norm, but 25 years ago this album truly was unlike anything else on the market. And 25 years later, it continues to influence. But for a brief period of time in 1982 it was just a new release from an artist who had a huge hit with Off The Wall, and many at the time were doubting if this album would match that in terms of artistic endeavours and sales.

Like many people at the time our first introduction to Thriller was the Paul McCartney duet “The Girl Is Mine”. Based on this being the lead single things didn’t bode so well for what was to follow – after all Michael kicked off Off The Wall with the superfunk jam of Don’t Stop To You Get Enough as lead single. So did this mean that Michael at the ripe old age of 24, and having been a professional recording artist for 13 years already, was mellowing? What did it mean for this new release?

All fears were set aside when you put the needle on the record and heard the opening triple strike snare of Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’. With it’s driving beat and infectious groove Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’ bridges the gap between where we left off with Off The Wall and what Thriller promised. Filled with energy the relentless bass line grounds the track through the verses and choruses as Michael delivers a vocal that ascends and descends with each line, a delivery that is pure and raw. With each passing verse we get more instrumental embellishment, horns puncture lines, synths swirl, percussive claps hit. They combine in a way that elevates the track to a higher plain with each new chorus. Even the backing vocals offer richness, especially in the “you’re a vegetable” line when Michael even taunts through the section. Perhaps his most personal take on the world the lyrics convey his helplessness as those around him feed off gossip and rumour. At 6.02 the song never overstays it’s welcome and as it builds to its apex with the now often sampled chant the song elevates to a new place and makes you just want to join in the chant. Still to this day this track is just as moving and catchy as it was way back in 82.

Baby Be Mine with its syncopated beat and r&b feel it lets Michael twist and turn lyrics, extending some words and contracting others, allowing him his vocals to come to the fore. Whilst beautifully produced it does suffer from being a bit too cutesy and pop-perfect, and while catchy it does feel suffer from a dated synth sound that would become increasing prevalent as the decade continued. The only track on here that feels more filler than thriller.

The Girl Is Mine drifts over to the syrupy pop side of things, with Michael and Paul trading lyrical takes against a lush arrangement. Again there is no faulting the vocal delivery and harmonies this two make, but the song boarders on being cringe worthy. Part of me wishes Michael had stuck to his guns and kept it more in the jazzy feel of the original demo.

Thriller is a track that just goes for broke. Laden with sound effects, horroresque imagery, funk groove, and vocal hooks, it carries the load and comes out on top. An instant party jam of the most unlikely kind, Thriller benefits from being reworked from the weaker Starlight chorus, and adds a bit more punch. It’s a track with big ambitions and epic production and while not an all time favourite, it is a song that is undeniably catchy and paints such a vivid picture that it seems almost made for the music video treatment. A nod is due to Vincent Prince, the king of ghoul, who delivers a perfect read in just two takes. And how iconic is that laugh? Packed full of funk and fun, Thriller works it out.

From the opening electro-chimes Beat It sounded unlike anything you had heard. It’s harder edge was evident from the opening and the guitar work throughout is on point. Michael delivers his voice with a bit of anger and at points spits out the words, laying down the lyrical challenge. Once again Michael pulled it out when it was needed writing the track when Quincy felt the album needed a rock track of the My Sharona kind. Thankfully rather than just deliver a generic rock-pop track like the latter, Beat It still comes packed with killer hooks and a musical sensibility. Eddie Van Halen’s contribution cannot be understated, it’s a soaring guitar solo that is all trademark Eddie working the fret board like a magician – and for it’s time such a pairing of a “white” rock god on a “black” track was unheard of, and in some camps, shocking.

As you listen through the album, you have tracks like Startin’ Somethin’, Thriller and Beat It that just seem to take the album further and further into new territories and you kind of prepare yourself for lesser tracks following the knockout punch of Beat It but then…

The opening beat to Billie Jean kicks in. The crispness on that opening beat is something to marvel at. Just a simple one step beat, but the way it hits it has energy and it’s so tight. And then the bass line kicks in. A mix of strut and stalk the bass just walks its way through the track and is so fat it hums through the speakers. Now for most songs that would be enough to make it an instant classic, but musically Michael brings so many little hooks to the track that its truly surprising that Quincy Jones didn’t think the track was strong enough to include on Thriller. Thankfully Michael held to his belief. This is the quintessential Michael track, from the percussive lyrical delivery, the rich harmonies, the countering backing vocals, the hook filled touches the song is as close to perfection as you are likely to come. From the verse with its baseline and ascending, descending keys, to the build to the chorus with its flury of synth horns and trademark “heeeees”, to the chorus with its guitar hook and stabbing strings, to the bridge with its twanged guitar solo, there is something in every phrase to catch the ear and keep it entertained. And of course then there is Michael’s flawless vocal delivery, filled with intrigue and concern and then flat out denial. This track rightfully rocket Michael into the stratosphere.

Human Nature with its haunting arrangement and trickling synth melody lays the perfect bed for Michael’s vocals to bring this ballad home. Without trying too hard, the song just cruises along almost dreamily before taking off with those amazing extended “whyyyyyyy”. Although predominately synth based, there is an organic warmth to the track thanks mostly to Michael’s vocal delivery (especially in the often missed backing vocals) that makes it still feel fresh and current.

P.Y.T. is a song that when I first heard it felt was too poppy. Overtime I have come to appreciate it and accept it for what it is, a happy joyous love song that I occasionally catch myself enjoying too much. All that said, it is probably the underestimated carefree party jam of the album.

Packed full of old school soul Lady in My Life is another slice of perfect production. Seductive and smooth the song just builds with pure vocals, and enticing melodies delivering dual peaks of the amazing bridge and the extended break down just past the mid point of the song. Hear Michael’s vocals just swirl and dip and soar. Totally ad-libbed Michael did what Quincy asked of him and just lays it all on the line. The texture of the vocals are rich and deep and impassioned. It’s the perfect icing on the cake that is Thriller and leaves you wanting more, the perfect way to end an album.

In the 28 years since Thriller there hasn’t been an album that has come close to mixing so many different styles so effortlessly that it feels like a given. Nor has there been an album that influenced so many different artists that followed. It’s perhaps easy now to wonder what made it so amazing, when a lot of albums since have used it as a blueprint to try and replicate that kind of success, but to really appreciate it you have to listen to it like you did back in the day when radio was segregated, when genres were well defined and not often crossed.

Thriller was everything Michael had hoped for. It cemented him as a global star, and while it rocketed him into the stratosphere of musical icon, it would also be the benchmark to which everything that came after had to surpass or measure up to. A feat no one, not even Michael would be able to pull off, and one that perhaps distracted him at times from moving forwards as an artist and taking risks.

But there are few albums that decades after their release still manage to sound relevant and fresh, and for the most part Thriller does this.

Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

His turn: Jermaine Jackson has book deal

Associated Press - 1 hour, 27 minutes ago

NEW YORK - A long-rumored memoir by Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine is finally coming out.

Touchstone announced Wednesday that Jermaine Jackson's "You are Not Alone: Michael: Through a Brother's Eye" will be released this fall. Touchstone, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, promises a "faithful and loving portrait," but one with "no subject off limits."

Jackson spoke in 2003 of wanting to write a memoir and reports surfaced again after Michael's death, in 2009.

Sisters Janet Jackson and La Toya Jackson also have books out this year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ne_jackson

[Edited 3/16/11 10:03am]

This aging idiot will never get it would he? Greasy motherfucker.

damn som of yall are so hostile, you'd thik jermaine came in and stole ya dinner if he wants to write a book about his brother, who cares everyone else is no one is obligated to buy it.

Hello children...can you all say CONSPIRACY???

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/michael-jackson-surveillance-video-erased-lapd-dr-conrad-murray-tape-death-died/

NaughtyKitty said:

His turn: Jermaine Jackson has book deal

Associated Press - 1 hour, 27 minutes ago

NEW YORK - A long-rumored memoir by Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine is finally coming out.

Touchstone announced Wednesday that Jermaine Jackson's "You are Not Alone: Michael: Through a Brother's Eye" will be released this fall. Touchstone, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, promises a "faithful and loving portrait," but one with "no subject off limits."

Jackson spoke in 2003 of wanting to write a memoir and reports surfaced again after Michael's death, in 2009.

Sisters Janet Jackson and La Toya Jackson also have books out this year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ne_jackson

[Edited 3/16/11 10:03am]

gggggrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

Derek1984 said:

Finally talk about the MUSIC.

I think Thriller as an album is perfection. Baby Be Mine does sound the most dated on the album but that doesn't bother me the least. It's still a great, quality song I happen to play A LOT. In fact, it's my ringtone

Now for the demo's and unreleased: Behind The Mask wouldn't seem to me to fit on the album. Perhaps it's because it uses a sample, but I think Thriller had just the right amount of dance songs on it. Now several tracks the intrigue me; You Told Me Your Lovin'... Who Do You Know... Rolling The Dice... Remember This Night... Those all seem like they could potentially be REALLY good songs. Of course that depends on how much they were finished. IMO, if they were really that good, they would've been included on Victory.

I like Hot Street and Got The Hots. But it's obvious why they didn't make the cut - too weak compared to the other material.

I think the story about how Thriller sounded like crap when it was finished and how it had to be shortened re-mixed and how MJ almost didn't want to release the project at all is a fascinating story in itself. Thriller is the biggest selling album of all time and deservedly so.

man, that story is one of the most compelling of all times, when it comes to the industry.

i'm actually more interested in the process of the album than the album itself. having listened to the audiophile/half-speed edition of thriller i think it's phenomenal in terms of an engineering standpoint (yaaay swedien!) but i think on the surface it is his weakest album, and far from perfection.

i'm not really into 'hot street' at all, so i'm glad that's not on the album; but i think there are songs that got on the album that are MUCH weaker than 'got the hots'. i think 'behind the mask' would have fared better than 'thriller', if the phillinganes arrangement was used.

i don't think 'baby be mine' is dated though... i think it's one of the songs on the albums that holds up the most, in terms of time. the ballads on that album stand the test of time. the only dance track that survives is 'wanna be startin' somethin''. 'beat it' does, in a way as well, if you're looking at it as a classic rock song.

you mentioned victory... i think some of those songs on victory would do better than some of those cuts on thriller. 'heartbreak hotel' would have set it off perfectly, say, on the first song on side 2 (not unlike victory).

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SherryJackson said:

Hello children...can you all say CONSPIRACY???

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/michael-jackson-surveillance-video-erased-lapd-dr-conrad-murray-tape-death-died/

i'm not sure what this link is referring to... why do you think it was erased? if i had more information i could have something to say about it.

MJJstudent said:

SherryJackson said:

Hello children...can you all say CONSPIRACY???

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/michael-jackson-surveillance-video-erased-lapd-dr-conrad-murray-tape-death-died/

i'm not sure what this link is referring to... why do you think it was erased? if i had more information i could have something to say about it.

Idk why it was erased. All I know is that there could've been vital information on that surveillance tape about who got into the house that day...but now we'll never know.

Thank you very much, LAPD. Just when I thought y'all couln't get anymore square