Exclusive: Inside Michael Jackson's "Hollywood"

Reply #451 posted 03/15/11 5:28am

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bboy87 said:

Alternate versions of Breaking News, the instrumental of Behind The Mask, and the official remixes for Hollywood Tonight have leaked

Breaking News- alternate mix

Breaking News- instrumental w/backing vocals

Breaking News- completely instrumental

Hollywood Tonight (DJ Chuckie Radio Edit)
Hollywood Tonight (DJ Chuckie Remix) (w/o spoken word)
Hollywood Tonight (DJ Chuckie Dub)

Behind The Mask (Instrumental)

^^ my compass seems not to point to the right place - any guidance

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Reply #452 posted 03/15/11 5:30am

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Question - is the girl in Hollywood Tonight the same girl who was one of the finalist dancers in TII? (not either of the girl's selected - but in the final selection scene they close in on a brunette in a bowler hat - wonder if it is her.)

Seems I might have been right. >>

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Exclusive: Inside Michael Jackson's "Hollywood"

Picture courtesy of the Estate of Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson was so impressed with dancer, Sofia Boutella -- star of the late icon's new music video for "Hollywood Tonight" -- he was ready to offer her the opportunity of a lifetime: the chance to dance alongside him on his This Is It concert series at the O2 Arena in London. Unfortunately, she was still under contract for Madonna's Confessions Tour at the time and couldn't get out of it. Seeing how disappointed Boutella was, Jackson turned to a couple of his collaborators and said: "I used to date Madonna. I should call her."

While Boutella ultimately missed out on This Is It, she pays admirable homage to the King of Pop in his most recent posthumous video, which paints the story of a young, ambitious girl trying to make it in Hollywood without being swallowed by its trappings and illusions. It's a well-worn tale, but is carried out tastefully by director, Wayne Isham, and sparked by the infectious energy and talent of Boutella. The video also reminds -- along with recent MJ tributes on American Idol and Glee -- how profound Jackson's influence continues to be on new generations (many of whom only "discovered" him after his tragic death in 2009).

"Hollywood Tonight" is the second single to be released from Jackson's posthumous album, MICHAEL("Behind the Mask" is the alternate single for several countries, including the United States).

The song has a long and winding history. Jackson first put down a sketch of the lyrics in 1999 while staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Soon after, he began working out the music with longtime friend and collaborator, Brad Buxer (who co-wrote the song). The song traveled with them from Los Angeles to New York, Miami to Neverland, during the early Invincible sessions. Jackson and Buxer were pumping out some outstanding material around this time, including songs like "Beautiful Girl," "The Way You Love Me," "Speechless," "The Lost Children," "Shut Up and Dance" (a great dance track Jackson and Buxer worked on with Michael Prince and Eric Kirkland with echoes of Stevie Wonder and MJ circa Bad which, unfortunately, doesn't have complete vocals) and "I Was the Loser" (a nice, melodic mid-tempo tune about lost love that is mostly finished), among others. A couple of years earlier Jackson and Buxer had also worked on artistic standouts like "Morphine" and "In the Back."

Jackson loved parts of "Hollywood" -- the opening Gregorian chant (his idea), the "westbound, greyhound" harmonies, the whistling in the outro -- but stopped working on it once producer Rodney Jerkins came on board for Invincible.

Over the next ten years, however, he returned to the track numerous times. For the bass line, he was searching for something similar to "Billie Jean," but distinct. "Do smooth muted bass on 'Hollywood,'" he indicated in one note. His early demos feature two layered bass lines (Michael Prince added the "Billie Jean"-esque kick and snare in the last mix MJ requested). Jackson and Brad Buxer continued tinkering with it in Las Vegas in 2007. For a while, he liked the idea of ending with the sound of a bus leaving or arriving. Yet he ultimately decided to conclude with the whistling, since the juxtaposition was a bit awkward.

In October 2008, Jackson, now living in Los Angeles, asked recording engineer Michael Prince to put the latest mix of "Hollywood" on CD so he could listen to it and see what might be improved. Sadly, he never got around to working on it again.

The new single of "Hollywood" is truer to this last version than the album cut. Of course, Jackson had intended to keep working on it, which is why his estate and Sony originally brought in two of Jackson's close collaborators, Theron Feemster (aka Neff-U) and Teddy Riley, to try to finish it. Feemster had the first crack and came up with some solid mixes; yet Sony didn't feel it was quite right and subsequently gave Teddy Riley a shot. Riley's production, which retained much of Michael and Brad's demo (including the intro and outro) and elements of Feemster's mix (including the fantastically funky guitar riff), became the album version.

After it was released, however, many fans voiced concerns about a) the over-processed vocals, and b) the lengthy spoken bridge. Jackson had, in fact, written lyrics for his own bridge, which were much darker than Riley's. Jackson's bridge reads:

She doesn't even have a ticket
She doesn't even have a way back home
She's lost and she's alone
There's no place for her to go
She is young and she is cold
Just like her father told her so

While Jackson's version highlights the tragedy and uncertainty of a dream deferred, Teddy Riley's bridge opted for a more positive and tidy resolution. "With the bridge we kind of made her succeed," Riley explained. "[She] completed her mission."

Riley would have undoubtedly used Jackson's version had their been vocals for it. Unfortunately, they were never recorded. With the new single, however, Sony decided to cut the spoken part completely and showcase instead some of the heightening drama and tension Jackson intended for this section. They used his beatboxing, his idea of swelling horns and strings, and his operatic vocal (pulled from a tape left running during a recording session in a hotel room). In addition to the bridge, the vocals on the new single are left un-processed and the production is scaled back. The result is a single that has a rawer, funkier, but less finished feel than the album version.

"Hollywood Tonight," then, has gone through many incarnations: the several different demos Jackson recorded with Brad Buxer and Michael Prince, from 1999 to 2008; the two versions Theron Feemster worked on following Jackson's death (one of which is reportedly quite impressive); the polished album version completed by Teddy Riley; and, of course, the new single. All are necessarily approximations to what Jackson would have ultimately put out in finished form. That's the nature of posthumous releases. They will always be imperfect and they will always generate fierce debate.

But for most music lovers, we will take whatever new Michael Jackson we can get, whether demos, new mixes or remixes. "Hollywood Tonight" could be gathering dust in a vault; instead, it has people dancing in the streets.

This article is crossposted at The Official Blog of Joe Vogel.

Joseph Vogel is the author of the forthcoming Man in the Music: The Cre...el Jackson (Sterling 2011).

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Reply #453 posted 03/15/11 7:04am

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I am aware that Michael may have readily borrowed from a lot of his own music at times, but that Billie Jean sample in the video is so obvious though. Would he not have tried to obscure it a bit more? Also, I knew something was up with that bridge when I first heard the song. I didn't have a problem with the person who narrated it, but the lyrics, themselves, were too positive for a song that's kinda about sacrificing one's integrity in order to achieve something. =/

I wanna say that they weren't 'emo' enough, but I don't think that's the right term for it...

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Reply #454 posted 03/15/11 8:01am

scatwoman	Love the Stayin' Alive guitar riff that runs thru Hollywood Tonight. Nice touch. Hope the single does well. "The Pentagon controls every word and image the American people reads or sees in mass media." Richard Perle 2004, at a press conference in the Pentagon.
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Reply #455 posted 03/15/11 8:12am

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Awwwww. bawl Perfect. Just Perfect.

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Reply #456 posted 03/15/11 8:30am

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dag said:

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Awwwww. Perfect. Just Perfect.

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Reply #457 posted 03/15/11 10:37am

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Reply #458 posted 03/15/11 11:10am

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I have been really loving this song alot lately. This is definitely one of the best songs R. Kelly ever wrote. Even though it is melodramatic, it is an epic in my opinion. Don't understand all of the hate this one gets.

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Reply #459 posted 03/15/11 11:13am

Timmy84	JUST his background vocals.
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SherryJackson	Timmy84 said: JUST his background vocals. So awesome...
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Reply #461 posted 03/15/11 11:32am

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JUST his background vocals.

Love it. His voice was so beautiful.

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Reply #462 posted 03/15/11 11:51am

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bboy87 said:

Alternate versions of Breaking News, the instrumental of Behind The Mask, and the official remixes for Hollywood Tonight have leaked

Breaking News- alternate mix

Breaking News- instrumental w/backing vocals

Breaking News- completely instrumental

Hollywood Tonight (DJ Chuckie Radio Edit)
Hollywood Tonight (DJ Chuckie Remix) (w/o spoken word)
Hollywood Tonight (DJ Chuckie Dub)

Behind The Mask (Instrumental)

^^ my compass seems not to point to the right place - any guidance

I would like to know where to find these too! batting eyes

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Reply #463 posted 03/15/11 1:46pm

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Well the judge has ruled that Alejandra can stay in the house for one more month, up until the trial date, which is April 14th.

According to someone who has read the documents Alejandra filed, Katherine doenst want her out of the house confused Supposedly, back when Jermaine couldnt afford to support her and his kids, Katherine had signed something that stated Alej could live at Havenhurst. Does anyone know anymore about this?

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Reply #464 posted 03/15/11 2:09pm

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Well the judge has ruled that Alejandra can stay in the house for one more month, up until the trial date, which is April 14th.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/0...-eviction/

According to someone who has read the documents Alejandra filed, Katherine doenst want her out of the house Supposedly, back when Jermaine couldnt afford to support her and his kids, Katherine had signed something that stated Alej could live at Havenhurst. Does anyone know anymore about this?

Gawd....

Change the locks, pack her stuff, and throw her moochin' ass out already! mad Jermaine too while you're at it...

Another thing..I always knew Latoya had some stake in the ownership of Havenhurst with Michael. But seriously...even if the Estate had no power to kick Alejandra out, what possible benefit would Latoya get by letting this bitch stay?

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Reply #465 posted 03/15/11 3:05pm

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^I know right?

Is this a fan made mix?

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Reply #466 posted 03/15/11 3:06pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Well the judge has ruled that Alejandra can stay in the house for one more month, up until the trial date, which is April 14th.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/0...-eviction/

According to someone who has read the documents Alejandra filed, Katherine doenst want her out of the house Supposedly, back when Jermaine couldnt afford to support her and his kids, Katherine had signed something that stated Alej could live at Havenhurst. Does anyone know anymore about this?

Gawd....

Change the locks, pack her stuff, and throw her moochin' ass out already! Jermaine too while you're at it...

Another thing..I always knew Latoya had some stake in the ownership of Havenhurst with Michael. But seriously...even if the Estate had no power to kick Alejandra out, what possible benefit would Latoya get by letting this bitch stay?

tmz is being misleading. latoya may have held some ownership a long time ago, but in court today it was stated that mj - now the estate - owns the house.

i've seen other posters say that kat was ordered by the fam court judge some time ago to keep alejandra and her kids b/c they didn't have anywhere else to go and jermy couldn't pay support. it could be true that kat agreed to do it, but i think kat probably had no choice, really.

i will bet anyone a nickel that the judge rules that alejandra can either stay at hayvenhurst or the condo until the younger boy reaches majority. he will cite family court case law that it is against public policy to do anything that causes harm to the minor children. mj, thru kat, was these kids de facto father and provider, and kat will attest to the fact that mj gave her money which she spent on all four of alejandra's "brousins" over the course of their lifetimes. the estate is obligated, i believe, to honor mj's agreements, whether oral or written, or implied.

any takers? wink

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Reply #467 posted 03/15/11 3:11pm

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SherryJackson said:

Gawd....

Change the locks, pack her stuff, and throw her moochin' ass out already! Jermaine too while you're at it...

Another thing..I always knew Latoya had some stake in the ownership of Havenhurst with Michael. But seriously...even if the Estate had no power to kick Alejandra out, what possible benefit would Latoya get by letting this bitch stay?

tmz is being misleading. latoya may have held some ownership a long time ago, but in court today it was stated that mj - now the estate - owns the house. i've seen other posters say that kat was ordered by the fam court judge some time ago to keep alejandra and her kids b/c they didn't have anywhere else to go and jermy couldn't pay support. it could be true that kat agreed to do it, but i think kat probably had no choice, really. i will bet anyone a nickel that the judge rules that alejandra can either stay at hayvenhurst or the condo until the younger boy reaches majority. he will cite family court case law, which is precedential, that it is against public policy to do anything that causes harm to the minor children. he already expressed his regret that the parties had not come to any agreement b/c there are kids involved. as i've posted before, the estate will be required to maintain jaafar and jermajesty in the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed at least until they reach majorty. any takers?

Ok, thanks Kibbles! Man...

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Reply #469 posted 03/15/11 3:27pm

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I need a career-spanning rarities box set now! A track that is as infectious as this tells me there's more to be uncovered. music

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Reply #470 posted 03/15/11 4:00pm

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kibbles said:

SherryJackson said:

Gawd....

Change the locks, pack her stuff, and throw her moochin' ass out already! Jermaine too while you're at it...

Another thing..I always knew Latoya had some stake in the ownership of Havenhurst with Michael. But seriously...even if the Estate had no power to kick Alejandra out, what possible benefit would Latoya get by letting this bitch stay?

tmz is being misleading. latoya may have held some ownership a long time ago, but in court today it was stated that mj - now the estate - owns the house.

i've seen other posters say that kat was ordered by the fam court judge some time ago to keep alejandra and her kids b/c they didn't have anywhere else to go and jermy couldn't pay support. it could be true that kat agreed to do it, but i think kat probably had no choice, really.

i will bet anyone a nickel that the judge rules that alejandra can either stay at hayvenhurst or the condo until the younger boy reaches majority. he will cite family court case law that it is against public policy to do anything that causes harm to the minor children. mj, thru kat, was these kids de facto father and provider, and kat will attest to the fact that mj gave her money which she spent on all four of alejandra's "brousins" over the course of their lifetimes. the estate is obligated, i believe, to honor mj's agreements, whether oral or written, or implied.

any takers?

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Is that so? Huh...well I'm glad. Thanks for updating my knowledge on that.

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Reply #471 posted 03/15/11 4:09pm

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SherryJackson said:

kibbles said:

tmz is being misleading. latoya may have held some ownership a long time ago, but in court today it was stated that mj - now the estate - owns the house.

i've seen other posters say that kat was ordered by the fam court judge some time ago to keep alejandra and her kids b/c they didn't have anywhere else to go and jermy couldn't pay support. it could be true that kat agreed to do it, but i think kat probably had no choice, really.

i will bet anyone a nickel that the judge rules that alejandra can either stay at hayvenhurst or the condo until the younger boy reaches majority. he will cite family court case law that it is against public policy to do anything that causes harm to the minor children. mj, thru kat, was these kids de facto father and provider, and kat will attest to the fact that mj gave her money which she spent on all four of alejandra's "brousins" over the course of their lifetimes. the estate is obligated, i believe, to honor mj's agreements, whether oral or written, or implied.

any takers?

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Is that so? Huh...well I'm glad. Thanks for updating my knowledge on that.

WOW! How long can you mooch off of a family? 20 years, good got what the hell is wrong with her.

She doesn't have any money that is why she will not leave.. I read that she never signed a confidentiality agreement so the bird can sing!

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Reply #472 posted 03/15/11 7:35pm

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From today's TMZ LIVE Chat

Q = I was wondering if the Jackson's will still allow Alejandra live in the condo after she's kicked out or will she go into welfare?

Harvey: I mean this is really interesting

Jason (another lawyer) : It's fascinating stuff

Harvey: I'm surprised that the judge didn't throw her out

Jason: Yeah. I think that the judge felt some sympathy for the kids and didn't want to throw them out on the street. But my I guess and I wasn't in the courtroom that the judge was telegraphing his intent to throw them out in 30 days

Harvey: But she had plenty of time to get out. And let's look to this real right now. She refuses to sign a confidentiality agreement. We know that she's hawking a tell-all book. So this woman is up to no good. She's living in a house for free. In a house that she's going the trash the occupants in. and it's like what sympathy do you have for her?

Jason: For her not. If it was just her you'll say no but she has minor children there. At the end of the day I agree with you.

Harvey: But the children and her can move into this condo which is totally ready to go
Jason: Only if she signs the confidentiality agreement which is giving up a multi-million pay day for her.

Harvey: Okay Alejandra here's the deal. We don't want to throw you our in the street so we don't want to get trashed so we are going to give you a condo basically if you sign the confidentiality agreement. If you don't honey you are on your own.

Jason: Go to the publishers and get an advance on the book

Harvey : yes and then get your own damn apartment Alejandra. We are not going to do that. It's B.S.

Jason: Right I totally agree.

Harvey: This really pisses me off. Here is a woman who has been living in this house for 20 years. Katherine Jackson has been nothing but good to her. One of her kids causes this whole stun gun thing. and he's a kid but the house was too much for Katherine to take care of. Michael Jackson dies, she's got 3 kids she's got to take care of. Alejandra has 5 kids. DCFS comes and says "hey it's too much for you lady" and so they make a decision basically "we'll ask Alejandra move". This has been going on for almost a year. And Alejandra still there

Jason: Not just ask her to leave but offer her a condo to move into. apparently a pretty swank condo to move into. And she say "okay but I'm still going to write this tell all book about the entire family"

Harvey: I would have told her to take a hike at that point. I don't get why the judge at this point didn't just say "you are out of here lady. You want a condo, a place to live ? Fine sign the damn confidentiality agreement. If not I'm not going to have any sympathy for you. Your problem".

Jason: and you absolutely have no legal right entitlement to this place.

Harvey: Judge isn't the parent of these kids. The parent should take care of the kids. Sign the confidentiality agreement or go talk to the publisher for getting a condo. It's crazy.

Q: Is Alejandra and the kids are the only ones in the house now?

Harvey: Yes they want to renovate the house. Katherine and Michael's 3 kids are in a house in Calabalas. It's costing the estate $25,000 a month in this house. And they are waiting to renovate but they can't do it because Alejandra is like a squatter in the house. So they have been waiting for months now to try and get this house renovated. So I just don't understand this.

Q : Who is this co title holder Michael Kane?

Harvey: He's the business manager for Michael Jackson and that's not uncommon that business managers are sometimes on the title. And the do that with trusts and things like that as well.

Jason: Right. But I'm sure that some kind of agreement is in place designating what rights he has on the place.

(showing pictures of Hayvenhurst)

Harvey: Apparently it needs serious repairs inside and they are spending hundreds of thousands on this thing whenever they are move out.

Jason: why are they keeping it? why not sell it?

Harvey : Because it's the home. That's their home.

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Reply #473 posted 03/15/11 7:37pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

^I know right?

Is this a fan made mix?

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nod They took Greg Philliganes' instrumental from 1985 and added Michael's vocals to it

and some MJ fans need to know the definition of "demo", they'll stamp anything with a "demo version" label lol

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Reply #474 posted 03/15/11 9:45pm

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lol i guess i don't need to finish that mix I was doing then. the vocals on the mix this person did sound cleaner than I could get them to sound.... i wonder if an acapella leaked somewhere.

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Reply #475 posted 03/15/11 11:16pm

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I need a career-spanning rarities box set now! A track that is as infectious as this tells me there's more to be uncovered.

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I remember when I first heard that 25-30 second snippet of this song. This is probably my favorite outtake from the Thriller session, but I just couldn't see it on the actual Thriller record. It sounds like the love child of Baby Be Mine and PYT but would have made a great b-side

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Reply #476 posted 03/15/11 11:17pm

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now THAT is the way the song should be done!!! not that crap they put on that 'michael' album. i love the phillinganes track (as well as the original yellow magic version); but YES! i love this, whoever did it. and i loved militant's as well.

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Reply #477 posted 03/15/11 11:26pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

silverchild said:

I need a career-spanning rarities box set now! A track that is as infectious as this tells me there's more to be uncovered.

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I remember when I first heard that 25-30 second snippet of this song. This is probably my favorite outtake from the Thriller session, but I just couldn't see it on the actual Thriller record. It sounds like the love child of Baby Be Mine and PYT but would have made a great b-side

I first heard the sample to this cut back in 2007-2008 and I said the same thing. It would have definitely been a great B-side, a classic one at that. You just couldn't go wrong with those LA musicians who played on this cut. The whole production is just ridiculous. I could've seen this being a hit too.

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Reply #478 posted 03/15/11 11:31pm

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Rarity, but goodie B-side from the Thriller period...smokin' cut.

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Reply #479 posted 03/15/11 11:37pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

silverchild said:

I need a career-spanning rarities box set now! A track that is as infectious as this tells me there's more to be uncovered.

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I remember when I first heard that 25-30 second snippet of this song. This is probably my favorite outtake from the Thriller session, but I just couldn't see it on the actual Thriller record. It sounds like the love child of Baby Be Mine and PYT but would have made a great b-side

see, i hate 'PYT' with a PASSION, and i really like 'got the hots' (it doesn't sound anything in the school of 'PYT' at all to me; i find the arrangement to be a vast improvement).

i'm obviously gonna get a lot of dis-agreement here, but for me, 'thriller' could have done without 'PYT', 'the girl is mine', 'thriller', 'billie jean' (the 'clean' version that ended up on the album) and 'beat it'. those songs make me not wanna listen to the album.

if 'got the hots', 'carousel', 'nite line', a version which sounded like one of the demos of 'billie jean' (where i think he sounded angrier and less clean),

...and the same arrangement as the album version of 'thriller', but with the 'starlight' lyrics- plus the FULL 6-minute version of 'lady in my life- THEN you got an album that is classic! yeah, y'all can get mad at me, but i think as a whole, 'thriller' is a weak album. he got harder and less glossy after that period, and he was awesome for that.

and 'got the hots' ended up on the japanese edition of 'thriller 25'. you see how the u.s. division of sony cheats us? they could have put the CORRECT/PROPER demos (like the songs above) on there instead of those ridiculous remixes and remakes. the only good thing about it was that there was finally a proper release of 'for all time', which michael re-worked to be on 'dangerous' as well.

i can't believe michael co-signed onto that crap. uh. yeah i can believe it... it's an easy deal in order to pay back the loans he owed to them. they keep reissuing trhriller, and it STILL sells. wow. okay, in that case i don't feel so bad.

[Edited 3/15/11 23:41pm]

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