Seriously though, you have no proof of this. You also never be able to produce any, because no proof of this claim exists. When you actually do find something, I will be here waiting and I will admit you to be right, but I'm not holding my breath.
and? She was influential, to a point, but what did she do? married a Prince? ok, had charities, ok, so how about Mother Theresa, she did a hell of alot more for the poor than Diana did. She was tabloid fodder, im guessing Kim Kardashian was number 12 on this list
Who considers Mother Theresa a pop culture icon?????!!!!! lol
I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
The only real pity is that you lack all these "stats" and info you claim to possess. You and I both know if you had them you would have posted them without fail. You have presented an argument to which you have no means of being able to back up or support. The whole "Oh I'm too busy to be bothered..." is an easy cop out method posters use when this happens. So, instead, you are trying divert the attention elsewhere by attempting to belittle me to cover up the fact that your argument is full of FAIL.
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Wow. You seem truly touched by all of this
It's no cop out. The Beatles sold more than him. I don't find it necessary to dig out stats and post an already obvious fact. They're the best selling band/artists in the world. You're just beating around the bush and I'm sure your next excuse will be "there's no way of determining worldwide stats". Yet MJ stans are the first to post his album/single sales in any debate. The irony!
So your definition of a greatest is album/record sales? That's not even an indicator of quality . . . .
I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
It's no cop out. The Beatles sold more than him. I don't find it necessary to dig out stats and post an already obvious fact. They're the best selling band/artists in the world. You're just beating around the bush and I'm sure your next excuse will be "there's no way of determining worldwide stats". Yet MJ stans are the first to post his album/single sales in any debate. The irony!
So your definition of a greatest is album/record sales? That's not even an indicator of quality . . . .
Nowhere in my post do I indicate this. Reading is fundamental.
Yea and? So by that theory my Britney eclipses the Beatles too right cause I've seen people 7 to 30 dress up as her for Halloween. I've seen the schoolgirl outfit, the snake, the diamond-flesh suit, the stripper-gear several times, you name it.
Britney? Ha! Lordy, I'm just gonna chalk it up to you being too young to experience MJ when he was in his prime, and whatever you know about The Beatles is because of what you've been told. As I said, Michael has influenced EVERYONE. People in the industry STILL emulate, sample and remake him. STILL. Did you not see that grown man weeping because of the mere fact that Michael had announced his concert? Not many artists can do that just on the mere announcement that they are putting on a concert. Babies, the elderly, and everyone in between are familiar with him and know his name--that is the mark of his pop icon status, not pushing a zillion units.
you really have some nerve calling anyone a troll... when you are doing the exact same thing i did in the janet thread....
you are arguing with everyone on here.... I BETTER not see you calling anyone on here a troll... because you don't agree with their views......
Britney? Ha! Lordy, I'm just gonna chalk it up to you being too young to experience MJ when he was in his prime, and whatever you know about The Beatles is because of what you've been told. As I said, Michael has influenced EVERYONE. People in the industry STILL emulate, sample and remake him. STILL. Did you not see that grown man weeping because of the mere fact that Michael had announced his concert? Not many artists can do that just on the mere announcement that they are putting on a concert. Babies, the elderly, and everyone in between are familiar with him and know his name--that is the mark of his pop icon status, not pushing a zillion units.
you really have some nerve calling anyone a troll... when you are doing the exact same thing i did in the janet thread....
you are arguing with everyone on here.... I BETTER not see you calling anyone on here a troll... because you don't agree with their views......
what a hypocrite.....
I was just beginning to like you, too. Listen, hamstergirl, this is completely different. Arguing with everyone? Get a life. I'm simply stating things as I, and millions of others, see them. And, the reason for my "Ha!" was that he was comparing Britney Spears of all people to Michael Fricking Jackson. To be honest, the convo should have just ended there. And why are you butting into my debate, anyway?
you really have some nerve calling anyone a troll... when you are doing the exact same thing i did in the janet thread....
you are arguing with everyone on here.... I BETTER not see you calling anyone on here a troll... because you don't agree with their views......
what a hypocrite.....
I was just beginning to like you, too. Listen, hamstergirl, this is completely different. Arguing with everyone? Get a life. I'm simply stating things as I, and millions of others, see them. And, the reason for my "Ha!" was that he was comparing Britney Spears of all people to Michael Fricking Jackson. To be honest, the convo should have just ended there. And why are you butting into my debate, anyway?
I'm a she and I was trying to make a point but you obviously missed it.
I was just beginning to like you, too. Listen, hamstergirl, this is completely different. Arguing with everyone? Get a life. I'm simply stating things as I, and millions of others, see them. And, the reason for my "Ha!" was that he was comparing Britney Spears of all people to Michael Fricking Jackson. To be honest, the convo should have just ended there. And why are you butting into my debate, anyway?
I'm a she and I was trying to make a point but you obviously missed it.
Well, that shouldn't be foreign to you because you've missed several that I've made.
you really have some nerve calling anyone a troll... when you are doing the exact same thing i did in the janet thread....
you are arguing with everyone on here.... I BETTER not see you calling anyone on here a troll... because you don't agree with their views......
what a hypocrite.....
I was just beginning to like you, too. Listen, hamstergirl, this is completely different. Arguing with everyone? Get a life. I'm simply stating things as I, and millions of others, see them. And, the reason for my "Ha!" was that he was comparing Britney Spears of all people to Michael Fricking Jackson. To be honest, the convo should have just ended there. And why are you butting into my debate, anyway?
NO its the complete same thing..... You are arguing with people about MJ vs the Beetles.....
oh so you're stating things you see... oh okay I get you. You can state things as YOU SEE THEM, but if someone does the same thing, and disagrees with you , they are a troll.. okay I see your logic...
I was just beginning to like you, too. Listen, hamstergirl, this is completely different. Arguing with everyone? Get a life. I'm simply stating things as I, and millions of others, see them. And, the reason for my "Ha!" was that he was comparing Britney Spears of all people to Michael Fricking Jackson. To be honest, the convo should have just ended there. And why are you butting into my debate, anyway?
NO its the complete same thing..... You are arguing with people about MJ vs the Beetles.....
oh so you're stating things you see... oh okay I get you. You can state things as YOU SEE THEM, but if someone does the same thing, and disagrees with you , they are a troll.. okay I see your logic...
I refuse to play your little game. You were in a Janet thread baiting people who are, for the most part, big fans or casual fans of her. A specific thread. This thread is about pop icons, and I am (or was) having a debate about two of the arguably biggest acts pop music has ever seen, and I threw out facts to support my claim. There's a difference. The next time you see me in a debate, please keep out of it. Thank you.
NO its the complete same thing..... You are arguing with people about MJ vs the Beetles.....
oh so you're stating things you see... oh okay I get you. You can state things as YOU SEE THEM, but if someone does the same thing, and disagrees with you , they are a troll.. okay I see your logic...
I refuse to play your little game. You were in a Janet thread baiting people who are, for the most part, big fans or casual fans of her. A specific thread. This thread is about pop icons, and I am (or was) having a debate about two of the arguably biggest acts pop music has ever seen, and I threw out facts to support my claim. There's a difference. The next time you see me in a debate, please keep out of it. Thank you.
blah blah blah...
im a HUGE janet jackson fan too.. and people on this board know this.... including You....
People on this thread for the most part are beetles fans.... There isn't a difference.. and there is NO way of explaining it.... you threw out ideas of what you observed other people doing... i didn't see any facts....
Yeah.... like i said... i better not see you calling anyone else a troll
I refuse to play your little game. You were in a Janet thread baiting people who are, for the most part, big fans or casual fans of her. A specific thread. This thread is about pop icons, and I am (or was) having a debate about two of the arguably biggest acts pop music has ever seen, and I threw out facts to support my claim. There's a difference. The next time you see me in a debate, please keep out of it. Thank you.
blah blah blah...
im a HUGE janet jackson fan too.. and people on this board know this.... including You....
People on this thread for the most part are beetles fans.... There isn't a difference.. and there is NO way of explaining it.... you threw out ideas of what you observed other people doing... i didn't see any facts....
Yeah.... like i said... i better not see you calling anyone else a troll
Lies.
For some reason you think people on this board got amnesia. We all remember your posts prior to MJ's passing, hun. Save the bullshit.
im a HUGE janet jackson fan too.. and people on this board know this.... including You....
People on this thread for the most part are beetles fans.... There isn't a difference.. and there is NO way of explaining it.... you threw out ideas of what you observed other people doing... i didn't see any facts....
Yeah.... like i said... i better not see you calling anyone else a troll
Lies.
For some reason you think people on this board got amnesia. We all remember your posts prior to MJ's passing, hun. Save the bullshit.
Now i know you are delusional...
Everyone knows I love janet jackson.... if you remember my post about janet prior to MJ passing you should know I love her too....
SO STFU...
like i said.. IM A HUGE JANET JACKSON FAN... and people know this...
I refuse to play your little game. You were in a Janet thread baiting people who are, for the most part, big fans or casual fans of her. A specific thread. This thread is about pop icons, and I am (or was) having a debate about two of the arguably biggest acts pop music has ever seen, and I threw out facts to support my claim. There's a difference. The next time you see me in a debate, please keep out of it. Thank you.
blah blah blah...
im a HUGE janet jackson fan too.. and people on this board know this.... including You....
People on this thread for the most part are beetles fans.... There isn't a difference.. and there is NO way of explaining it.... you threw out ideas of what you observed other people doing... i didn't see any facts....
Yeah.... like i said... i better not see you calling anyone else a troll
You really are full of BULLSHIT, and not worth my time or energy. And you're NOT a Janet fan, OR a Michael fan. in fact, i'm convinced you're a complete perpetrator. Get a life and stay out of my fucking business. You'd better not see me calling anyone else a troll? Beeyotch, please. I'd better not see you PERIOD. The end.
I really can't believe how obnoxious people get about who is a bigger icon... this is absolute stupidity
It's like 3:13-3:21 of this song.
You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
Who does she think she's fooling? I vividly remember your posts on a Janet forum and even on here. You're nothing more than a troll. Deal with it and to be honest, no one takes you seriously.
Who does she think she's fooling? I vividly remember your posts on a Janet forum and even on here. You're nothing more than a troll. Deal with it and to be honest, no one takes you seriously.
you remember my post vividly... Why don't you get a life....
Like i said i have posts to back up my support and love for janet jackson.. BEFORE MJ'S DEATH... You can't say anything about that...
you are speaking of a time when i was younger and went on janet forums complaining about her sexual image.. THATS WHAT YOU REMEMBER... and its pathetic that you remember that stuff... im just so amazing at how much random people even care about posts i made when i was younger..
do i complain NOW about janet having sex, talking about sex, dressing sexy... NO... because im older and accept thats who she is.... Thats the difference...
SEANMAN said:
TotalAlisa said:
blah blah blah...
im a HUGE janet jackson fan too.. and people on this board know this.... including You....
People on this thread for the most part are beetles fans.... There isn't a difference.. and there is NO way of explaining it.... you threw out ideas of what you observed other people doing... i didn't see any facts....
Yeah.... like i said... i better not see you calling anyone else a troll
You really are full of BULLSHIT, and not worth my time or energy. And you're NOT a Janet fan, OR a Michael fan. in fact, i'm convinced you're a complete perpetrator. Get a life and stay out of my fucking business. You'd better not see me calling anyone else a troll? Beeyotch, please. I'd better not see you PERIOD. The end.
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How about you both take this advice and stop worrying about my posts....
Who does she think she's fooling? I vividly remember your posts on a Janet forum and even on here. You're nothing more than a troll. Deal with it and to be honest, no one takes you seriously.
you remember my post vividly... Why don't you get a life....
Like i said i have posts to back up my support and love for janet jackson.. BEFORE MJ'S DEATH... You can't say anything about that...
you are speaking of a time when i was younger and went on janet forums complaining about her sexual image.. THATS WHAT YOU REMEMBER... and its pathetic that you remember that stuff... im just so amazing at how much random people even care about posts i made when i was younger..
do i complain NOW about janet having sex, talking about sex, dressing sexy... NO... because im older and accept thats who she is.... Thats the difference...
You really are full of BULLSHIT, and not worth my time or energy. And you're NOT a Janet fan, OR a Michael fan. in fact, i'm convinced you're a complete perpetrator. Get a life and stay out of my fucking business. You'd better not see me calling anyone else a troll? Beeyotch, please. I'd better not see you PERIOD. The end.
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How about you both take this advice and stop worrying about my posts....
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THIS from a person who got into MY conversation with SOMEONE ELSE about MJ vs The Beatles! If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black... No, dear, YOU need to stop worrying about MY posts. You really are a fool
Who does she think she's fooling? I vividly remember your posts on a Janet forum and even on here. You're nothing more than a troll. Deal with it and to be honest, no one takes you seriously.
A troll for real! AND a pest. I had completely forgotten about her until she tried to come after me in this thread about something that I was talking to someone ELSE about. Ridiculous!
It would be nice that if anyone has a beef with someone that they would take it to orgnotes instead of battling it out in the forum with the possibility of ruining a thread
Another option is walking away from your computer for a bit
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