Piano man to diaper man: Elton John becomes a dad

Congrats Elton!

That kid will be throwing shade at other babies by the time it's 5

That's great news, he sure will have an interesting life.

I'm grossed out by the narcissism of Elton John having a child at age 63. Just cause you can doesn't mean you should. And of course they just had to have their own genetic spawn, they couldn't adopt. Terrible people, really. This is really a perfect example of children as bourgoise accoutremont.

I actually have gay foster parents, too. So my criticism is certainly not about that.

JudasLChrist said:

I'm grossed out by the narcissism of Elton John having a child at age 63. Just cause you can doesn't mean you should. And of course they just had to have their own genetic spawn, they couldn't adopt. Terrible people, really. This is really a perfect example of children as bourgoise accoutremont.

I actually have gay foster parents, too. So my criticism is certainly not about that.

I would not use your words, but I agree with most of what you are saying. And I want to add that IMO surrogates are a not a good thing any way. Why is it necessary to have a child that has your genes? What if the mother cannot come to terms with not keeping the baby even though she originally thought she could. And what about the feelings of the baby who might never meet his mother.

Really kinda selfish when you actually look at it for what it really is-an old man paying a woman to have his child Sad cuz he'll be dead or on his way to the grave before the child is grown

I don't think I'll ever want a child but if I ever did, I'd want it to be my own.

bboy87 said:

That kid will be throwing shade at other babies by the time it's 5

JudasLChrist said:

I'm grossed out by the narcissism of Elton John having a child at age 63. Just cause you can doesn't mean you should. And of course they just had to have their own genetic spawn, they couldn't adopt. Terrible people, really. This is really a perfect example of children as bourgoise accoutremont.

I actually have gay foster parents, too. So my criticism is certainly not about that.

There's nothing wrong with adopting but there's nothing like having an extension of yourself to carry on after you're dead and gone.

Plus, he's at the perfect age to have a child. By the time the child gets in those late teens and early 20s (the age that they give the parents the most hell), Elton will be older and will be spaced out on so much meds, he won't notice the shit. Plus, he's got a younger lover that would have to deal with those rebellious years instead of him. Hell, even call the little devil's mama to come over and straighten his ass out if you need to.

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vainandy said:

JudasLChrist said:

I'm grossed out by the narcissism of Elton John having a child at age 63. Just cause you can doesn't mean you should. And of course they just had to have their own genetic spawn, they couldn't adopt. Terrible people, really. This is really a perfect example of children as bourgoise accoutremont.

I actually have gay foster parents, too. So my criticism is certainly not about that.

There's nothing wrong with adopting but there's nothing like having an extension of yourself to carry on after you're dead and gone.

Plus, he's at the perfect age to have a child. By the time the child gets in those late teens and early 20s (the age that they give the parents the most hell), Elton will be older and will be spaced out on so much meds, he won't notice the shit. Plus, he's got a younger lover that would have to deal with those rebellious years instead of him. Hell, even call the little devil's mama to come over and straighten his ass out if you need to.

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Elton and David tried to adopt but they couldn't for various reasons. I hate how judgmental people are. Why can't you just be happy for them and their new baby?

Glindathegood said:

Elton and David tried to adopt but they couldn't for various reasons. I hate how judgmental people are. Why can't you just be happy for them and their new baby?

Because some are already writing Elton's death certificate. Ain't like he's 100.

bboy87 said:

Glindathegood said:

CocoRock said:

Glindathegood said:

Elton and David tried to adopt but they couldn't for various reasons. I hate how judgmental people are. Why can't you just be happy for them and their new baby?

Because the org hates gay Dads, or Dads they even SUSpect are gay: http://prince.org/msg/8/347174

Naw, we just don't like closeted gay people. We're fine with those out in the open.

vainandy said:

CocoRock said:

Glindathegood said:

Elton and David tried to adopt but they couldn't for various reasons. I hate how judgmental people are. Why can't you just be happy for them and their new baby?

Because the org hates gay Dads, or Dads they even SUSpect are gay: http://prince.org/msg/8/347174

All I said was congrats, Coco. I surely don't give a fuck what Shaffer does in his private life. Same with Elton. I think he always wanted to be a dad but his career got in the way plus he was addicted for a good period so I'm glad he's at a place now where he feels he can finally raise a child and raise him the right way. Props to Elton & David.

yeah Elton is a bit old to be having kids, but I would rather be his child than the child of a broke single 15 year old mom

I don't see how him having kids is any more selfish than anyone else having kids

Timmy84 said:

CocoRock said:

Timmy84 said:

All I said was congrats, Coco. I surely don't give a fuck what Shaffer does in his private life. Same with Elton. I think he always wanted to be a dad but his career got in the way plus he was addicted for a good period so I'm glad he's at a place now where he feels he can finally raise a child and raise him the right way. Props to Elton & David.

Wasn't tryna offend anybody who's not a party to this, as all I was doing was answering glindathegood's question.

I know. Just trying to confirm that I don't judge people.

Timmy84 said:

CocoRock said:

vainandy said:

Naw, we just don't like closeted gay people. We're fine with those out in the open.

Except that without actually boning one of these dudes, it's just speculation. Speculation that prevents the org from simply wishing congrats to somebody they SUSPECT is "in the closet" who just became a father.

I have no problem with those of us who are in the closet or even those that I suspect are in the closet because we all have to feel comforatable with ourselves before we accept ourselves and come out. As long as a closeted person keeps their trap shut and isn't saying or doing anything against us, I'm fine with them. But if they are badmouthing or holding us back in even the slightest way, I believe in busting them out with a vengence.

As for Yo-Yo or whoever he is though, I didn't even comment on his thread because I know nothing about him and it looked like a dull topic.

CocoRock said:

Glindathegood said:

Elton and David tried to adopt but they couldn't for various reasons. I hate how judgmental people are. Why can't you just be happy for them and their new baby?

Because the org hates gay Dads, or Dads they even SUSpect are gay: http://prince.org/msg/8/347174

I don't care if he is gay or not. If he was straight I woudl have posted just the same.

nursev said:

Really kinda selfish when you actually look at it for what it really is-an old man paying a woman to have his child Sad cuz he'll be dead or on his way to the grave before the child is grown

He is too friggin old and I do think this is more about acoutrement and accessorizing than actually wanting to parent. They've been together 12 years. They could have adopted a long time ago when they were younger and more able bodied if they really wanted to be parents. They could have adopted older kids too. I'm not cool on the whole "rent-a-womb" trend and kids growing up without mothers. This is too Mommy Dearest for me.

NDRU said:

yeah Elton is a bit old to be having kids, but I would rather be his child than the child of a broke single 15 year old mom

I don't see how him having kids is any more selfish than anyone else having kids

just put aside some loot for the counseling this child will inevitably need

datdude said:

just put aside some loot for the counseling this child will inevitably need

that's a whole lotta loot.

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