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Thread started 11/14/10 10:57am

nickburt

is hendrix the yard stick every other artist is measured by

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Reply #1 posted 11/14/10 11:10am

blackbob

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not for me...great an artist has he was....he would be in my top 30 greatest but the beatles will always be my yardstick along with brian wilson, stevie wonder and prince...

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Reply #2 posted 11/14/10 11:19am

novabrkr

No.

Hendrix isn't the yard stick every other artist is measured by. That would be just silly.

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Reply #3 posted 11/14/10 11:32am

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He's the yardstick that every other guitar artist is measured by. Big difference.

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Reply #4 posted 11/14/10 2:30pm

Timmy84

By every other artist is stretch.

By every other guitar player is more like it.

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Reply #5 posted 11/14/10 2:42pm

JoeTyler

Let's say that he did to hard-rock what Chuck Berry did to RockN'Roll...

if we're talking about groundbreaking rock guitarists, you have to mention:

Chuck Berry

Carl Perkins

Keith Richards

Jimi Hendrix

Eric Clapton

Carlos Santana

Jeff Beck

Tommy Iommi

Jimmy Page

Joe Perry

Eddie Van Halen

or even Prince

after that, well...just copycats, really...

oh, and I still think The Beatles is the band every other pop/rock artist/band is measured by...

...Sly, Stevie, Parliament/Funkadelic (or even Prince) for R&B/Funk...

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Reply #6 posted 11/14/10 3:44pm

Cinnie

On the org, yes. You get to thumb your nose at any other recording artist if you show that you also like Hendrix.

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Reply #7 posted 11/14/10 5:11pm

Graycap23

4 what? How NOT 2 die from taking drugs?

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Reply #8 posted 11/14/10 5:26pm

Dewrede

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Reply #9 posted 11/14/10 7:28pm

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He maybe the yardstick every rock guitarists will eventually be compared to, and the epitome of a rock star but certainly not the musical artist everyone else is measured by. Pop wise I think whether you like their music or not, The Beatles is still generally considered the apex of pop music. Ultimately though I've heard arguments that reasoned Mozart to be the yard stick for every artist due to composing being the most difficult creative facet of music to excel in and since he was a exceptional composer that composedhours upon hours of exhaustive music that he is indeed the standard bearer, but with art, you can't make any definitive conclusion about questions such as these as in many cases the degree of difference between the very best at their craft is often incremental and no worth arguing about.

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Reply #10 posted 11/14/10 8:35pm

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Graycap23 said:

4 what? How NOT 2 die from taking drugs?

Ouch!

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Reply #11 posted 11/14/10 8:36pm

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Se7en said:

He's the yardstick that every other guitar artist is measured by. Big difference.

If we say specifically rock guitar artist, I may be inclined to agree here.

Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
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Reply #12 posted 11/14/10 10:22pm

dalsh327

Music has too many genres and styles to measure one person against all of it. They'd have to master every style of music possible. Not just good, but exceptional.

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Reply #13 posted 11/14/10 10:44pm

Moonbeam

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There is no such artist.

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Reply #14 posted 11/14/10 11:24pm

sosgemini

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Are we talking penis length?

NSFW: http://www.concertlivewir...endick.jpg

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Reply #15 posted 11/14/10 11:48pm

VoicesCarry

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Are we talking penis length?

NSFW: http://www.concertlivewir...endick.jpg

I'd say girth, judging by that pic. It's a nice length, but not record-setting.

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Reply #16 posted 11/15/10 12:23am

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Nope. He may be considered by many to be the greatest rock guitarist that ever was, but I strongly disagree. A trailblazer he was, but he owes a great deal to pioneers like Buddy Guy and Bo Diddley.

Jimi Hendrix' recorded output was only for about 3 years and then he died - I think Jeff Beck is the guitarist that took that mantra and carried it forth, way more so than Eric Clapton or Jimmy Page or Carlos Santana.

Was he relevant to the advancement of the electric guitar? Of course. Was he a great rock guitarist? Yes! We just did not get enough of him.

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Reply #17 posted 11/15/10 12:56am

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Moonbeam said:

There is no such artist.

yeahthat

Although, there's not many mainstream artists that have had such an impact with such little recorded output as Hendrix has had.

chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #18 posted 11/15/10 12:39pm

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Lammastide said:

Se7en said:

He's the yardstick that every other guitar artist is measured by. Big difference.

If we say specifically rock guitar artist, I may be inclined to agree here.

I can agree with that.

One thing to consider is that Hendrix left behind an entire wealth of music from his prime. Gorgeous music and seemingly endless live performance, both full of youth, energy, new ideas, superb songwriting and musicianship. Imagine if Prince had passed away leaving only Dirty Mind/Controversy/1999/Purple Rain as his legacy?

Now (and here's where I'll probably get in trouble): we never got to hear Hendrix fall out of prime.

We did not hear his Disco phase, his cheesy 80s pop/keyboard phase, his take on the Grunge era, his commissioned soundtrack work in the late 90s (perhaps for some undercover Narc movie) or his return-to-form comeback in the early 2000s. We didn't get to hear any of this, so we judge him solely on what we do have. No doubt Hendrix would have lost fans at every new music direction, same as every other musical artist.

We got to see him as a brilliant snapshot in time that can't be recreated.

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Reply #19 posted 11/15/10 12:48pm

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dalsh327 said:

Music has too many genres and styles to measure one person against all of it. They'd have to master every style of music possible. Not just good, but exceptional.

yeahthat

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Reply #20 posted 11/15/10 2:38pm

Lammastide

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Se7en said:

Lammastide said:

If we say specifically rock guitar artist, I may be inclined to agree here.

I can agree with that.

One thing to consider is that Hendrix left behind an entire wealth of music from his prime. Gorgeous music and seemingly endless live performance, both full of youth, energy, new ideas, superb songwriting and musicianship. Imagine if Prince had passed away leaving only Dirty Mind/Controversy/1999/Purple Rain as his legacy?

Now (and here's where I'll probably get in trouble): we never got to hear Hendrix fall out of prime.

We did not hear his Disco phase, his cheesy 80s pop/keyboard phase, his take on the Grunge era, his commissioned soundtrack work in the late 90s (perhaps for some undercover Narc movie) or his return-to-form comeback in the early 2000s. We didn't get to hear any of this, so we judge him solely on what we do have. No doubt Hendrix would have lost fans at every new music direction, same as every other musical artist.

We got to see him as a brilliant snapshot in time that can't be recreated.

Great post.

Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #21 posted 11/15/10 4:16pm

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Se7en said:

Lammastide said:

If we say specifically rock guitar artist, I may be inclined to agree here.

I can agree with that.

One thing to consider is that Hendrix left behind an entire wealth of music from his prime. Gorgeous music and seemingly endless live performance, both full of youth, energy, new ideas, superb songwriting and musicianship. Imagine if Prince had passed away leaving only Dirty Mind/Controversy/1999/Purple Rain as his legacy?

Now (and here's where I'll probably get in trouble): we never got to hear Hendrix fall out of prime.

We did not hear his Disco phase, his cheesy 80s pop/keyboard phase, his take on the Grunge era, his commissioned soundtrack work in the late 90s (perhaps for some undercover Narc movie) or his return-to-form comeback in the early 2000s. We didn't get to hear any of this, so we judge him solely on what we do have. No doubt Hendrix would have lost fans at every new music direction, same as every other musical artist.

We got to see him as a brilliant snapshot in time that can't be recreated.

Are you so sure we even got to hear Hendrix in his prime? I mean, it's not like he has a vast discography, are you experienced axis and ladyland were his first 3 albums! Can you imagine if Prince had passed away after Dirty Mind? Not really much of a legacy. He never got the chance to develop like Prince did and with all the great music the came out in the '70s I could have definitely seen him still ahead of the pack.

chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #22 posted 11/15/10 5:12pm

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dalsh327 said:

Music has too many genres and styles to measure one person against all of it. They'd have to master every style of music possible. Not just good, but exceptional.

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Reply #23 posted 11/15/10 6:16pm

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Se7en said:

Lammastide said:

If we say specifically rock guitar artist, I may be inclined to agree here.

I can agree with that.

One thing to consider is that Hendrix left behind an entire wealth of music from his prime. Gorgeous music and seemingly endless live performance, both full of youth, energy, new ideas, superb songwriting and musicianship. Imagine if Prince had passed away leaving only Dirty Mind/Controversy/1999/Purple Rain as his legacy?

Now (and here's where I'll probably get in trouble): we never got to hear Hendrix fall out of prime.

We did not hear his Disco phase, his cheesy 80s pop/keyboard phase, his take on the Grunge era, his commissioned soundtrack work in the late 90s (perhaps for some undercover Narc movie) or his return-to-form comeback in the early 2000s. We didn't get to hear any of this, so we judge him solely on what we do have. No doubt Hendrix would have lost fans at every new music direction, same as every other musical artist.

We got to see him as a brilliant snapshot in time that can't be recreated.

How do we know that's his prime though?

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Reply #24 posted 11/15/10 6:28pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Se7en said:

I can agree with that.

One thing to consider is that Hendrix left behind an entire wealth of music from his prime. Gorgeous music and seemingly endless live performance, both full of youth, energy, new ideas, superb songwriting and musicianship. Imagine if Prince had passed away leaving only Dirty Mind/Controversy/1999/Purple Rain as his legacy?

Now (and here's where I'll probably get in trouble): we never got to hear Hendrix fall out of prime.

We did not hear his Disco phase, his cheesy 80s pop/keyboard phase, his take on the Grunge era, his commissioned soundtrack work in the late 90s (perhaps for some undercover Narc movie) or his return-to-form comeback in the early 2000s. We didn't get to hear any of this, so we judge him solely on what we do have. No doubt Hendrix would have lost fans at every new music direction, same as every other musical artist.

We got to see him as a brilliant snapshot in time that can't be recreated.

How do we know that's his prime though?

It has 2 be...............that is all u have.

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Reply #25 posted 11/15/10 6:30pm

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Se7en said:

Lammastide said:

If we say specifically rock guitar artist, I may be inclined to agree here.

I can agree with that.

One thing to consider is that Hendrix left behind an entire wealth of music from his prime. Gorgeous music and seemingly endless live performance, both full of youth, energy, new ideas, superb songwriting and musicianship. Imagine if Prince had passed away leaving only Dirty Mind/Controversy/1999/Purple Rain as his legacy?

Now (and here's where I'll probably get in trouble): we never got to hear Hendrix fall out of prime.

We did not hear his Disco phase, his cheesy 80s pop/keyboard phase, his take on the Grunge era, his commissioned soundtrack work in the late 90s (perhaps for some undercover Narc movie) or his return-to-form comeback in the early 2000s. We didn't get to hear any of this, so we judge him solely on what we do have. No doubt Hendrix would have lost fans at every new music direction, same as every other musical artist.

We got to see him as a brilliant snapshot in time that can't be recreated.

Nicely put.

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Graycap23 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

How do we know that's his prime though?

It has 2 be...............that is all u have.

You don't think he would have gotten better and advanced? Hell, he was only 27.

It might be all we have, but that doesn't make it his prime. Before he passed, he was gettin into different types of music.

It's sort of like NBA Hall of Famer Maurice Stokes, was drafted in 1955 and by 1958 was paralyzed by aterrible in-court accident. He was great in his short three years, but no dobht he would have improved greatly by the mid 60s to be included with the Russell/Wilt/Baylor/West/Robertson/Pettit's of the league.

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Reply #27 posted 11/15/10 8:29pm

Graycap23

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Graycap23 said:

It has 2 be...............that is all u have.

You don't think he would have gotten better and advanced? Hell, he was only 27.

It might be all we have, but that doesn't make it his prime. Before he passed, he was gettin into different types of music.

It's sort of like NBA Hall of Famer Maurice Stokes, was drafted in 1955 and by 1958 was paralyzed by aterrible in-court accident. He was great in his short three years, but no dobht he would have improved greatly by the mid 60s to be included with the Russell/Wilt/Baylor/West/Robertson/Pettit's of the league.

I don't know what the speculation gets u.

I hear u but the reality is all we have is what he put out.

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Reply #28 posted 11/15/10 8:36pm

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Graycap23 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

You don't think he would have gotten better and advanced? Hell, he was only 27.

It might be all we have, but that doesn't make it his prime. Before he passed, he was gettin into different types of music.

It's sort of like NBA Hall of Famer Maurice Stokes, was drafted in 1955 and by 1958 was paralyzed by aterrible in-court accident. He was great in his short three years, but no dobht he would have improved greatly by the mid 60s to be included with the Russell/Wilt/Baylor/West/Robertson/Pettit's of the league.

I don't know what the speculation gets u.

I hear u but the reality is all we have is what he put out.

I know what you mean, but I doubt Jimi reached his prime at age 27 (even if that's all we have from him.)

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Reply #29 posted 11/17/10 2:55am

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Hendrix was lucky enough to die before anyone could say, "Yeah, I liked his early stuff but..." dead

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