Em talked to Anderson Cooper:

http://www.huffingtonpost...58132.html

Em said that if he were black he would get away with his homophobic comments. Possibly.

I do wish he would school his white fans more. Remind them who created the original music.

Of course he would. If Eminem was black he'd be slinging burgers.

If he were black he would be somewhat broke, on his way to jail because his bodyguard bought guns or burning up the twitter with tweets to that skank Kat Stacks.

Allegedly.

Ah, did you watch the video.

You mean he would be rapping and slinging burgers.

I saw a bit of it where he was talking about how he had to switch schools and got beat up a lot cuz eh was the new kid on the block or wuteva. I think he got into the rap game to keep from getting beat up. In the hood, the most respectable people are the gangster and the rapper. Allegedly.

Dude was from Kansas and living in a trailer park outside Detroit. He probably had no choice but to "move to the hood".

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Timmy84 said:

Dude was from Kansas and living in a trailer park outside Detroit. He probably had no choice but to "move to the hood".

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right.

although I didn't know he was from Kansas.

If he was black he would be the best selling hip-hop artist of alltime.

prodigalfan said:

Timmy84 said:

Dude was from Kansas and living in a trailer park outside Detroit. He probably had no choice but to "move to the hood".

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right.

although I didn't know he was from Kansas.

I gotta look it up, I don't know if it's the state Kansas or the city Kansas State, Missouri but I think it's the latter.

Correction: he was born in Saint Joseph, Missouri lol

If he was black, he'd be:

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Without attacking pop stars for no reason or making songs about killing family members.

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Timmy84 said:

If he was black, he'd be:

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Without attacking pop stars for no reason or making songs about killing family members.

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Please don't use Tupac and Eminem in the same sentence. Tupac had way more talent.

NONSENSE said:

Timmy84 said:

If he was black, he'd be:

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Without attacking pop stars for no reason or making songs about killing family members.

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Please don't use Tupac and Eminem in the same sentence. Tupac had way more talent.

I don't think Timmy was comparing tupac to eminem talent-wise ....

Unlike Tupac though..Eminem never came under the influence of his record label or friends to change who he was and that was part of tupac's downfall...he traded in his smarts to be a "thug" and it went downhill for him, face the facts.

Last but not least at least Eminem knows that. We all knew that. However in the same time his 'homophobic' comments have been already squashed by himself in his own songs. He already talked about doing guys, or letting guys do him, and even discussed being mollested by his step dad. However, where is all the hoopla on this? Eminem at least speaks the things that so many rappers would not DARE say.

So apparently because the stupid idiot thinks that blacks can get away with homophobic remarks and whites can't, he must feel cheated that he can't get away with making them. This means he wants to make homophobic remarks which makes him bottom of the barrel absolute gutter trash. Somebody really needs to stuff his mouth with a dick so big that he can't talk his stupid shit.

vainandy said:

So apparently because the stupid idiot thinks that blacks can get away with homophobic remarks and whites can't, he must feel cheated that he can't get away with making them. This means he wants to make homophobic remarks which makes him bottom of the barrel absolute gutter trash. Somebody really needs to stuff his mouth with a dick so big that he can't talk his stupid shit.

But they do...more so than any other person that makes them. I have heard much much worse than Eminem...and in actuality find me a song where he actually hated on gays....really instead of just calling some dude a 'fag'.

paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:

So apparently because the stupid idiot thinks that blacks can get away with homophobic remarks and whites can't, he must feel cheated that he can't get away with making them. This means he wants to make homophobic remarks which makes him bottom of the barrel absolute gutter trash. Somebody really needs to stuff his mouth with a dick so big that he can't talk his stupid shit.

But they do...more so than any other person that makes them. I have heard much much worse than Eminem...and in actuality find me a song where he actually hated on gays....really instead of just calling some dude a 'fag'.

That alone is enough. Using that word as an insult as if simply being gay alone is something to be insulted about. These trashy motherfuckers need to realize that we are not beneath them. If anything, they are beneath us because we are the ones that are strong enough to live our lives as we damn well please and face the hate that comes with it. We're the ones that's strong, not them.

And as for all the gays a few years ago picketing his ass and begging and pleading with people not to buy his stuff because of his homophobia, that's the weak route. Motherfuckers laugh at shit like that...."Oh, look at the little faggots. They done got their panties in a wad. Did they get their feelings hurt?"....They think that shit is funny. Instead of begging and pleading, they should have sent a message to him like this...."Keep on talking your shit you trash, and we're going to gang up on your sorry lowlife ass and beat the hell out of you".

vainandy said:

paisleypark4 said:

But they do...more so than any other person that makes them. I have heard much much worse than Eminem...and in actuality find me a song where he actually hated on gays....really instead of just calling some dude a 'fag'.

That alone is enough. Using that word as an insult as if simply being gay alone is something to be insulted about. These trashy motherfuckers need to realize that we are not beneath them. If anything, they are beneath us because we are the ones that are strong enough to live our lives as we damn well please and face the hate that comes with it. We're the ones that's strong, not them.

And as for all the gays a few years ago picketing his ass and begging and pleading with people not to buy his stuff because of his homophobia, that's the weak route. Motherfuckers laugh at shit like that...."Oh, look at the little faggots. They done got their panties in a wad. Did they get their feelings hurt?"....They think that shit is funny. Instead of begging and pleading, they should have sent a message to him like this...."Keep on talking your shit you trash, and we're going to gang up on your sorry lowlife ass and beat the hell out of you".

So you saying somebody should have came out with a diss record that would have been a nice match! We need gay rappers in the mainstream...

Eminem wasnt really attacking gay people in the song stated..however I understand that the use of the word 'fag' which is more so also a term used to put a man's 'manly status' down..which is not used anymore that much today than it was back in 1999 when Em was just starting to rise...I believe that whole ordeal kind of made it come to light..it actually helped gay people in a way culturally. Eminem also approves gay marriage and said himself he has nothing against gay people..as well as some of his gay song lyrics.

paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:

That alone is enough. Using that word as an insult as if simply being gay alone is something to be insulted about. These trashy motherfuckers need to realize that we are not beneath them. If anything, they are beneath us because we are the ones that are strong enough to live our lives as we damn well please and face the hate that comes with it. We're the ones that's strong, not them.

And as for all the gays a few years ago picketing his ass and begging and pleading with people not to buy his stuff because of his homophobia, that's the weak route. Motherfuckers laugh at shit like that...."Oh, look at the little faggots. They done got their panties in a wad. Did they get their feelings hurt?"....They think that shit is funny. Instead of begging and pleading, they should have sent a message to him like this...."Keep on talking your shit you trash, and we're going to gang up on your sorry lowlife ass and beat the hell out of you".

So you saying somebody should have came out with a diss record that would have been a nice match! We need gay rappers in the mainstream...

Eminem wasnt really attacking gay people in the song stated..however I understand that the use of the word 'fag' which is more so also a term used to put a man's 'manly status' down..which is not used anymore that much today than it was back in 1999 when Em was just starting to rise...I believe that whole ordeal kind of made it come to light..it actually helped gay people in a way culturally. Eminem also approves gay marriage and said himself he has nothing against gay people..as well as some of his gay song lyrics.

No, not at all. I'm not talking about an answer record or any type of record whatsover. I'm saying that instead of those people using their television exposure picketing and begging and pleading with people not to buy his music and talking about how they want acceptance, they should have been using that television exposure telling him in droves that if you keep on talking your shit about us, we're going to gang up on your ass in numbers and beat the fuck out of you.

All that begging and pleading makes us look like the weak fools while he sits up and laughs. Turn the tables on his ass and put some fear in his ass. That way we're the ones sitting up laughing while his little ass goes off somewhere and cries.

seeingvoices12 said:

NONSENSE said:

Please don't use Tupac and Eminem in the same sentence. Tupac had way more talent.

I don't think Timmy was comparing tupac to eminem talent-wise ....

I sure wasn't comparing them talent-wise.

God, I can't stand Eminem at the best of times, but I do find him particularly grating when he takes up his victim stance. He's made a fortune through putting out twaddle with little substance, that's just a mulch of low-grade humour and controversy-courting, designed to appeal to the suburban teenagers and frat boys that are now the main market for hip hop, yet he still likes to maintain this notion that he's some poor, misunderstood soul, because people focus on the controversy at the expense of the true, underlying 'point'.

To me, though, there is no real point, 'message', or 'statement', to what he says; or, if there is, it's an artistic statement on the level of swearing in front of an elderly relative or sticking your bare arse out a moving car window. Like the Wizard of Oz, what's behind the screen - in his case, a veil of controversy and hype - isn't really much to write home about. He showed a lot of potential early on, but he happily squandered it to capture the mass market. Along with others, to me, he's one of the iconic figures of hip hop's descent from an artistic and cultural movement of real vibrancy and potency to the turgid, stale, utterly conventional and non-threatening genre it appears as in the mainstream today. Tosser.

To me (and maybe to a WHOLE LOT others), Eminem just screams "attention whore". Especially with his taunts against non-threatening pop stars. Sure rappers have diss non-threatening acts but they were all rappers. He's the only one that has nerve to go after someone like, say, Britney or Christina or Mariah. It seems that he was personally offended that they didn't accept his advances so he attacked them. Same with 'N Sync just because one of them called him out on, I believe, him talking about he was gonna kill his mama or ex-wife (has he retired from those subjects yet? I believe he has but I'm not sure). I do think he has some skills but it seems like he uses his pent-up anger at the wrong people. Like really?

deebee said:

God, I can't stand Eminem at the best of times, but I do find him particularly grating when he takes up his victim stance. He's made a fortune through putting out twaddle with little substance, that's just a mulch of low-grade humour and controversy-courting, designed to appeal to the suburban teenagers and frat boys that are now the main market for hip hop, yet he still likes to maintain this notion that he's some poor, misunderstood soul, because people focus on the controversy at the expense of the true, underlying 'point'.

To me, though, there is no real point, 'message', or 'statement', to what he says; or, if there is, it's an artistic statement on the level of swearing in front of an elderly relative or sticking your bare arse out a moving car window. Like the Wizard of Oz, what's behind the screen - in his case, a veil of controversy and hype - isn't really much to write home about. He showed a lot of potential early on, but he happily squandered it to capture the mass market. Along with others, to me, he's one of the iconic figures of hip hop's descent from an artistic and cultural movement of real vibrancy and potency to the turgid, stale, utterly conventional and non-threatening genre it appears as in the mainstream today. Tosser.

I liked the Slim Shady LP. I heard he was even better on his '96 debut, what was it called, Infinite. I think starting with Marshall Mathers, that's when Eminem sold out to pop. The same shit he was "beefing" with.

vainandy said:

paisleypark4 said:

So you saying somebody should have came out with a diss record that would have been a nice match! We need gay rappers in the mainstream...

Eminem wasnt really attacking gay people in the song stated..however I understand that the use of the word 'fag' which is more so also a term used to put a man's 'manly status' down..which is not used anymore that much today than it was back in 1999 when Em was just starting to rise...I believe that whole ordeal kind of made it come to light..it actually helped gay people in a way culturally. Eminem also approves gay marriage and said himself he has nothing against gay people..as well as some of his gay song lyrics.

No, not at all. I'm not talking about an answer record or any type of record whatsover. I'm saying that instead of those people using their television exposure picketing and begging and pleading with people not to buy his music and talking about how they want acceptance, they should have been using that television exposure telling him in droves that if you keep on talking your shit about us, we're going to gang up on your ass in numbers and beat the fuck out of you.

All that begging and pleading makes us look like the weak fools while he sits up and laughs. Turn the tables on his ass and put some fear in his ass. That way we're the ones sitting up laughing while his little ass goes off somewhere and cries.

So what you are SAYING is that we should have put out an Antoine Dodson out there on 'em? That would have caught alot of attention! "We gon find you!"

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paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:

No, not at all. I'm not talking about an answer record or any type of record whatsover. I'm saying that instead of those people using their television exposure picketing and begging and pleading with people not to buy his music and talking about how they want acceptance, they should have been using that television exposure telling him in droves that if you keep on talking your shit about us, we're going to gang up on your ass in numbers and beat the fuck out of you.

All that begging and pleading makes us look like the weak fools while he sits up and laughs. Turn the tables on his ass and put some fear in his ass. That way we're the ones sitting up laughing while his little ass goes off somewhere and cries.

So what you are SAYING is that we should have put out an Antoine Dodson out there on 'em? That would have caught alot of attention! "We gon find you!"

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Ugh...

I think some people who "rep" our community are bad representatives. Including that dude you just posted... Jesus Christ, I saw a picture of him last night... I'm still trying to wipe the burn out of my eyes.

If he was black all his problems would be solved!! African Americans have been telling white people that for years, now.

Timmy84 said:

To me (and maybe to a WHOLE LOT others), Eminem just screams "attention whore". Especially with his taunts against non-threatening pop stars. Sure rappers have diss non-threatening acts but they were all rappers. He's the only one that has nerve to go after someone like, say, Britney or Christina or Mariah. It seems that he was personally offended that they didn't accept his advances so he attacked them. Same with 'N Sync just because one of them called him out on, I believe, him talking about he was gonna kill his mama or ex-wife (has he retired from those subjects yet? I believe he has but I'm not sure). I do think he has some skills but it seems like he uses his pent-up anger at the wrong people. Like really?

yes, As talented as he is, it all adds up to not much. Talking loud and not saying much, but saying it very cleverly.

He seems scared to take on other rappers by name (not that I endorse that kind of stupidity either), but NSynch & Moby? They are not exactly tough guys.