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Lady Gaga's Cocaine Admission Sends Mixed Signals to Fans

Lady Gaga's Cocaine Admission Sends Mixed Signals to Fans

By Jo Piazza Posted Aug 8th 2010 05:00PM


Lady Gaga recently divulged to Vanity Fair that she is an occasional cocaine user, admitting she does the drug maybe a few times a year. Earlier this year, Gaga admitted that she did "bags and bags" of cocaine when she was an up and coming star. She also said she doesn't want her fans to emulate her bad behavior.

Uhhh too little too late Gaga.

Let's take a moment to think about what she has said. She did a lot of cocaine and it helped to make her famous. She seems to making a pretty strong correlation despite her afterthought asking fans not to be like her.
"Gaga is self righteous about sex and celibacy, that crazy church coming after her gays and her little monsters. She tries to be so pure on those levels as a role model for them which is why admitting cocaine use is actually totally irresponsible of her. She knows how much influence she has over her fans," says 'Cult of Celebrity' author Cooper Lawrence.

"She likes to shock, but this is an area that isn't about shock, its about personal responsibility. As much as I love her, it was a huge mistake to admit to coke use."

Some might argue that back in the seventies and eighties, it was cool for a rocker to admit they smoked pot because it gave them a bad boy, bad girl edginess and that cocaine use is just taking that trope to the next level. Maybe so, but when the majority of your fans are tweens, it's best not to admit to any drug use and if you think saying you're a casual drug user these days makes you seem edgy, you're wrong. It just makes you seem desperate for attention.

"Lady Caca is always trying to do whatever it takes to be controversial... but, it is all so unnatural and contrived . CaCa's latest claim that she is a casual coke user is horrible! Considering that the majority of her fans are tweens... it's just wrong. It is not the message to send to our youth," says Jay Grdina, CEO of Kikster.com, who is now so sick of Gaga's antics he has given her an affectionate nickname.

"Lady CaCa has no class, and needs to learn to stop trying so hard to look cool... she will never be Madonna. She reminds me more of Tila Tequila."

Chatting about casual cocaine use equals a value-loss for Gaga. Not only does it send her young fans mixed signals about what it right and what is wrong and what will help you be successful in the music business, but it makes her seem desperate for controversy. Put that up your nose and snort it Gaga.

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Reply #1 posted 08/08/10 11:29pm

Cinnie

I am not surprised, especially after the artists she gets compared to. None of them were clean, except Ace Of Base
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Reply #2 posted 08/08/10 11:57pm

Timmy84

And this is supposed to be bad for Gaga because ??? confused

Please, it ain't like she's telling her fans "do cocaine because I did it", she just admitted to cocaine use for her own merit, not for anyone else's.

[Edited 8/8/10 23:58pm]

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Reply #3 posted 08/09/10 12:03am

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so now she's giving out mixed messages. I remember last year when Barbara Walters asked her about this, Gaga said she used to have a cocaine problem, but that she had stopped all that. Honestly though I can't say I'm suprised about her admission, as she does seem kind of high in some of her interviews and performances. I bet she uses it more often than "a few times a year" too. It's a shame confused

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Reply #4 posted 08/09/10 12:05am

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so now she's giving out mixed messages. I remember last year when Barbara Walters asked her about this, Gaga said she used to have a cocaine problem, but that she had stopped all that. Honestly though I can't say I'm suprised about her admission, as she does seem kind of high in some of her interviews and performances. I bet she uses it more often than "a few times a year" too. It's a shame confused

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Hmm I forgot she did say that. Hmm...

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she's gross.

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Cinnie said:

I am not surprised, especially after the artists she gets compared to. None of them were clean, except Ace Of Base

One of Gaga's biggest influences, David Bowie did cocaine back in the day. Ideas for the albums Low & "Heroes" came about because of it.

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CHIC0 said:

Lady Gaga's Cocaine Admission Sends Mixed Signals to Fans

By Jo Piazza Posted Aug 8th 2010 05:00PM


Lady Gaga recently divulged to Vanity Fair that she is an occasional cocaine user, admitting she does the drug maybe a few times a year. Earlier this year, Gaga admitted that she did "bags and bags" of cocaine when she was an up and coming star. She also said she doesn't want her fans to emulate her bad behavior.

Uhhh too little too late Gaga.

Let's take a moment to think about what she has said. She did a lot of cocaine and it helped to make her famous. She seems to making a pretty strong correlation despite her afterthought asking fans not to be like her.
"Gaga is self righteous about sex and celibacy, that crazy church coming after her gays and her little monsters. She tries to be so pure on those levels as a role model for them which is why admitting cocaine use is actually totally irresponsible of her. She knows how much influence she has over her fans," says 'Cult of Celebrity' author Cooper Lawrence.

"She likes to shock, but this is an area that isn't about shock, its about personal responsibility. As much as I love her, it was a huge mistake to admit to coke use."

Some might argue that back in the seventies and eighties, it was cool for a rocker to admit they smoked pot because it gave them a bad boy, bad girl edginess and that cocaine use is just taking that trope to the next level. Maybe so, but when the majority of your fans are tweens, it's best not to admit to any drug use and if you think saying you're a casual drug user these days makes you seem edgy, you're wrong. It just makes you seem desperate for attention.

"Lady Caca is always trying to do whatever it takes to be controversial... but, it is all so unnatural and contrived . CaCa's latest claim that she is a casual coke user is horrible! Considering that the majority of her fans are tweens... it's just wrong. It is not the message to send to our youth," says Jay Grdina, CEO of Kikster.com, who is now so sick of Gaga's antics he has given her an affectionate nickname.

"Lady CaCa has no class, and needs to learn to stop trying so hard to look cool... she will never be Madonna. She reminds me more of Tila Tequila."

Chatting about casual cocaine use equals a value-loss for Gaga. Not only does it send her young fans mixed signals about what it right and what is wrong and what will help you be successful in the music business, but it makes her seem desperate for controversy. Put that up your nose and snort it Gaga.

Gaga doesn't have to be Madonna when the industry is about to give her Madonna's throne anyway. Just wait for the part when MTV gives her (almost?) all 13 awards at the VMA.

And before you or anyone else remind me about Madonna's torch passing episode with Britney & Christina, don't bother. Those girls are consider damage goods that are no longer effective as pawns.

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Reply #8 posted 08/09/10 7:06am

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You know folks are plain rotten when Madonna is considered the equivalent to "class" nowadays lol

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Reply #9 posted 08/09/10 8:17am

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Was she asked if she used drugs or did she just volunteer the information?

I saw a Paul Mccartney interview from the 60s where the reporter was badgering him because he had admitted to drug use. Paul's point was that he was asked, and he simply told the truth. The reporter was trying to turn it into an issue about Paul's lack of reponsibility to his fans etc...

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Reply #10 posted 08/09/10 8:58am

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I agree with Lily Allen's take on this: people shouldn't pretend like they're not doing it, which doesn't help substance abuse problems at all.

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Reply #11 posted 08/09/10 9:07am

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I thought she mentioned her occasional cocaine use in an earlier interview (Rolling Stone, maybe?).

She used to be an addict, but now she only uses cocaine "a few times a year?" Sounds like a recipe for relapse, especially if times get tough. Hopefully she can keep her shit together.

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Reply #12 posted 08/09/10 9:11am

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TonyVanDam said:



CHIC0 said:


Lady Gaga's Cocaine Admission Sends Mixed Signals to Fans



By Jo Piazza Posted Aug 8th 2010 05:00PM





Lady Gaga recently divulged to Vanity Fair that she is an occasional cocaine user, admitting she does the drug maybe a few times a year. Earlier this year, Gaga admitted that she did "bags and bags" of cocaine when she was an up and coming star. She also said she doesn't want her fans to emulate her bad behavior.

Uhhh too little too late Gaga.

Let's take a moment to think about what she has said. She did a lot of cocaine and it helped to make her famous. She seems to making a pretty strong correlation despite her afterthought asking fans not to be like her.
"Gaga is self righteous about sex and celibacy, that crazy church coming after her gays and her little monsters. She tries to be so pure on those levels as a role model for them which is why admitting cocaine use is actually totally irresponsible of her. She knows how much influence she has over her fans," says 'Cult of Celebrity' author Cooper Lawrence.

"She likes to shock, but this is an area that isn't about shock, its about personal responsibility. As much as I love her, it was a huge mistake to admit to coke use."

Some might argue that back in the seventies and eighties, it was cool for a rocker to admit they smoked pot because it gave them a bad boy, bad girl edginess and that cocaine use is just taking that trope to the next level. Maybe so, but when the majority of your fans are tweens, it's best not to admit to any drug use and if you think saying you're a casual drug user these days makes you seem edgy, you're wrong. It just makes you seem desperate for attention.

"Lady Caca is always trying to do whatever it takes to be controversial... but, it is all so unnatural and contrived . CaCa's latest claim that she is a casual coke user is horrible! Considering that the majority of her fans are tweens... it's just wrong. It is not the message to send to our youth," says Jay Grdina, CEO of Kikster.com, who is now so sick of Gaga's antics he has given her an affectionate nickname.

"Lady CaCa has no class, and needs to learn to stop trying so hard to look cool... she will never be Madonna. She reminds me more of Tila Tequila."

Chatting about casual cocaine use equals a value-loss for Gaga. Not only does it send her young fans mixed signals about what it right and what is wrong and what will help you be successful in the music business, but it makes her seem desperate for controversy. Put that up your nose and snort it Gaga.




Gaga doesn't have to be Madonna when the industry is about to give her Madonna's throne anyway. Just wait for the part when MTV gives her (almost?) all 13 awards at the VMA.



And before you or anyone else remind me about Madonna's torch passing episode with Britney & Christina, don't bother. Those girls are consider damage goods that are no longer effective as pawns.





Why am I not suprised? Usually in the industry as she is in and as hard working as she is..id expect it. Having had the past experience of cocaine it is like a jolt of energy. And I can understand why entertainers think they need it to focus. Not to say it is good or go do it..and plus it is very dangerous as proven..however ...who did not already predict this?

She basically is already the "new madonna" for the kids so this controversy just reminds me of Madonnas nude photos for Playboy era.
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Reply #13 posted 08/09/10 10:30am

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[img:$uid]http://www.kazan-the-man.com/hosted/funnypics/Coke-Head.jpg[/img:$uid]

Who's surprised?

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Reply #14 posted 08/09/10 10:38am

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so we can all agree this isn't surprising? neutral

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Reply #15 posted 08/09/10 11:09am

JoeTyler

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Prince & Madonna...clean dad & clean mom, you can't go wrong if you listen to them...

COCAINE ADDICTION is sooooooo 70s anyway dead

boring news

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Reply #16 posted 08/09/10 11:11am

Mong

Cinnie said:

I am not surprised, especially after the artists she gets compared to. None of them were clean, except Ace Of Base

More like Ace Of Freebase.

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Reply #17 posted 08/09/10 11:12am

Poiple

Bree8016 said:

so we can all agree this isn't surprising? neutral

I think so. At least I'm not surprised.

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Reply #18 posted 08/09/10 11:18am

Timmy84

Bree8016 said:

so we can all agree this isn't surprising? neutral

Pretty much. Plus it's a non-story.

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Reply #19 posted 08/09/10 11:25am

Cinnie

Mong said:

Cinnie said:

I am not surprised, especially after the artists she gets compared to. None of them were clean, except Ace Of Base

More like Ace Of Freebase.

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Reply #20 posted 08/09/10 11:56am

baroque

JoeTyler said:

neutral

Prince & Madonna...clean dad & clean mom, you can't go wrong if you listen to them...

COCAINE ADDICTION is sooooooo 70s anyway dead

boring news

true.

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Reply #21 posted 08/09/10 12:16pm

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Timmy84 said:

And this is supposed to be bad for Gaga because ??? confused

Please, it ain't like she's telling her fans "do cocaine because I did it", she just admitted to cocaine use for her own merit, not for anyone else's.

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I wouldn't listen to nobody If I was worried about who doing drugs or not . I don't agree with it but I still like her some of her young fans were saying they lost respect . They hang on to her every word.lol smh she did say she enjoy ectasy in the rolling stone mag.

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Reply #22 posted 08/09/10 12:38pm

Ottensen

Nowhere in any of her admissions have I ever interpreted her use as the reason for or even an aid to her climb to fame.

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Reply #23 posted 08/09/10 12:57pm

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I definitely don't endorse illegal drug use, but I don't think most of Gaga's fans are impressionable tweens. I've been to two of her concerts and I didn't see a lot of tweens or even older teenagers there. Most of her fans seemed to be in their twenties and some into their thirties, who seem capable of making their own decisions and probably aren't that influenced.

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Reply #24 posted 08/09/10 1:22pm

Timmy84

Ottensen said:

Nowhere in any of her admissions have I ever interpreted her use as the reason for or even an aid to her climb to fame.

Me either.

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Reply #25 posted 08/09/10 1:23pm

Timmy84

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I definitely don't endorse illegal drug use, but I don't think most of Gaga's fans are impressionable tweens. I've been to two of her concerts and I didn't see a lot of tweens or even older teenagers there. Most of her fans seemed to be in their twenties and some into their thirties, who seem capable of making their own decisions and probably aren't that influenced.

Yeah Gaga only has a few teen fans, I've seen some of them on Twitter lol some of them creep me a bit. But for the most part, most Gaga fans are over 18 and seem to be cool folks.

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Timmy84 said:

Glindathegood said:

I definitely don't endorse illegal drug use, but I don't think most of Gaga's fans are impressionable tweens. I've been to two of her concerts and I didn't see a lot of tweens or even older teenagers there. Most of her fans seemed to be in their twenties and some into their thirties, who seem capable of making their own decisions and probably aren't that influenced.

Yeah Gaga only has a few teen fans, I've seen some of them on Twitter lol some of them creep me a bit. But for the most part, most Gaga fans are over 18 and seem to be cool folks.

heres the deal and what people should be thinking about. Parents need to be ther role models, not A-rod or GaGa or Kanye or whomever, that is the serious issue here. Its one thing to be into someones work, be inspired etc....but if you make decisions because of an artist, you need some help, straight up, or you have the lack of guidance and strength in your own self. Now im not saying that its bad if you hear Prince say check this new cd out and you do, thats not an issue, but if you let something like his religious views or GaGa's past, or Lil Waynes jail time rule your day, time to buy yourself a life instead of a cd. These artists are a reflection of the society.


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Reply #27 posted 08/09/10 2:40pm

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lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah Gaga only has a few teen fans, I've seen some of them on Twitter lol some of them creep me a bit. But for the most part, most Gaga fans are over 18 and seem to be cool folks.

heres the deal and what people should be thinking about. Parents need to be ther role models, not A-rod or GaGa or Kanye or whomever, that is the serious issue here. Its one thing to be into someones work, be inspired etc....but if you make decisions because of an artist, you need some help, straight up, or you have the lack of guidance and strength in your own self. Now im not saying that its bad if you hear Prince say check this new cd out and you do, thats not an issue, but if you let something like his religious views or GaGa's past, or Lil Waynes jail time rule your day, time to buy yourself a life instead of a cd. These artists are a reflection of the society.

But see this is why I never let artists determine how I should live my life. At the end of the day they're human beings and parents should do more to help kids be their own individuals rather than be so impressionable that they'll imitate who they idolize.

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Timmy84 said:

lastdecember said:

heres the deal and what people should be thinking about. Parents need to be ther role models, not A-rod or GaGa or Kanye or whomever, that is the serious issue here. Its one thing to be into someones work, be inspired etc....but if you make decisions because of an artist, you need some help, straight up, or you have the lack of guidance and strength in your own self. Now im not saying that its bad if you hear Prince say check this new cd out and you do, thats not an issue, but if you let something like his religious views or GaGa's past, or Lil Waynes jail time rule your day, time to buy yourself a life instead of a cd. These artists are a reflection of the society.

But see this is why I never let artists determine how I should live my life. At the end of the day they're human beings and parents should do more to help kids be their own individuals rather than be so impressionable that they'll imitate who they idolize.

yeah i mean when Prince was doing that whole Emancipation "love" soulmate nonsense, i bought into it in my own life, then boom he was divorced under 3 years later, so much for his quote that it would be "forever" so put it this way, every artist that puts out an album says "this one is the best one they have ever done" and thats how you should take everything else they say. I mean i live for the band a-Ha but i know i dont see eye to eye with them on everything they do or believe in their daily lives and im SURE they wouldnt agree with everything i do in life either, so its a trade off.


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lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

But see this is why I never let artists determine how I should live my life. At the end of the day they're human beings and parents should do more to help kids be their own individuals rather than be so impressionable that they'll imitate who they idolize.

yeah i mean when Prince was doing that whole Emancipation "love" soulmate nonsense, i bought into it in my own life, then boom he was divorced under 3 years later, so much for his quote that it would be "forever" so put it this way, every artist that puts out an album says "this one is the best one they have ever done" and thats how you should take everything else they say. I mean i live for the band a-Ha but i know i dont see eye to eye with them on everything they do or believe in their daily lives and im SURE they wouldnt agree with everything i do in life either, so its a trade off.

I knew better @ the Prince thing. lol It's like "well this is him, I don't have to do it." But yeah no one should go with what the artist says.

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