Reel said:

I remember Arsenio Hall commenting at that mighty buldge in MC Hammers speedos when he initially released that vdeo "Pumps in a Bump"... After Arsenion looked that the video he lieterally was amazed and said "Damn". Then he tried to back peddle from that statement.

@ newbie...

Arsenio Hall is pretty gay himself.

phunkdaddy said:

SPYZFAN1 said:

I also remember when Arsenio was going off the air and Johnny came out and sang "Wind Beneath My Wings" (very close) to Arsenio and he was practically in the dude's lap (on the chair).

Man EVERYONE was talking about that the next day.

I also remember a show where Arsenio was asking him how it was to

have the ladies all over him and Arsenio stated on national tv if i was

a girl i'd give you some. You should have seen the look on Johnny's face.

It was priceless. Johnny was looking like muthafucka, you've got to be crazy.

I don't know or care about the rumors surrounding Johnny, i just dig the music.

Poor Arsenio. Now you talk about somebody being trapped in the closet. I get the feeling he is somebody who would have liked to come out but at the time of his heyday there were too many people holding him back. Now nobody cares about him or his sexuality so essentially....he still arranging hangers.

scriptgirl said:

What the hell do you mean by "tea"? I know y'all ain't talking about Lipton's.

Down here, "tea" is short for "What's your cup of tea". It can mean two things, either what are you or what do you get into. Is the person a top, a bottom, versatile, oral only, bisexual, trade, a drag queen, a snow queen (a white gay man or a black gay man who only goes after white men), etc. It's basically just asking the person what they are or what they like to see if you want to get down to business with them.

DesireeNevermind said:

phunkdaddy said:

I also remember a show where Arsenio was asking him how it was to

have the ladies all over him and Arsenio stated on national tv if i was

a girl i'd give you some. You should have seen the look on Johnny's face.

It was priceless. Johnny was looking like muthafucka, you've got to be crazy.

I don't know or care about the rumors surrounding Johnny, i just dig the music.

Poor Arsenio. Now you talk about somebody being trapped in the closet. I get the feeling he is somebody who would have liked to come out but at the time of his heyday there were too many people holding him back. Now nobody cares about him or his sexuality so essentially....he still arranging hangers.

I think Arsenio's desire to keep his sexuality private had something to do with him essentially disappearing from the limelight. Although these days, he seems to just be letting it fly, lol.

Actually Arsenio upset the Jewish community by having Farrakhan on his show. In his monologue, he pretty much said as much without calling out the Jews by name. But eveyrone saw that coming. In addition his ratings were starting to drop, but that was the final nail in the coffin. I think Arsenio should be given another chance. I enjoyed his show for many years.

Reel said:

Actually Arsenio upset the Jewish community by having Farrakhan on his show. In his monologue, he pretty much said as much without calling out the Jews by name. But eveyrone saw that coming. In addition his ratings were starting to drop, but that was the final nail in the coffin. I think Arsenio should be given another chance. I enjoyed his show for many years.

Arsenio's show was a big deal. It was the end of an era when it went off the air.

Reel said:

Actually Arsenio upset the Jewish community by having Farrakhan on his show. In his monologue, he pretty much said as much without calling out the Jews by name. But eveyrone saw that coming. In addition his ratings were starting to drop, but that was the final nail in the coffin. I think Arsenio should be given another chance. I enjoyed his show for many years.

shorttrini said:

Reel said:

Actually Arsenio upset the Jewish community by having Farrakhan on his show. In his monologue, he pretty much said as much without calling out the Jews by name. But eveyrone saw that coming. In addition his ratings were starting to drop, but that was the final nail in the coffin. I think Arsenio should be given another chance. I enjoyed his show for many years.

It's funny that you mentioned this. I recently read that it was Arsenio, that turned in his resignation to the station "bigwigs", because he just got tired of doing the daily grind of a late night talk show.

That was the reason given that I always heard.

PDogz said:

shorttrini said:

It's funny that you mentioned this. I recently read that it was Arsenio, that turned in his resignation to the station "bigwigs", because he just got tired of doing the daily grind of a late night talk show.

That was the reason given that I always heard.

This is off-topic, but my feeling about Arsenio's show was that in the beginning, it was revolutionary. It showcased a lot of voices, stars, and musicians rarely if ever seen on mainstream television. Towards the end though, I couldn't watch it. Arsenio ceased to be funny AT ALL; he was like the dorky kid pretending to be cool in his monologues and his interviews were atrocious. He couldn't get farther up his guest's @$$ if he tried and the entire thing lost its energy.

As for not wanting to do the "daily grind of a late night talk show" --- it takes a certain amount of stamina and will to be successful in show business. With all of the competition out there, it's hard enough to get your big break and even harder to stay there.

For every Jay Leno, you have a thousand Dave Chappelle's. Jay works 366 days a year. Dave Chappelle walked away from a boatload of money because he couldn't see himself doing the show over and over again. It's not anything to do with talent. It's about stamina and longevity.

off the top of my head...

Jay Leno -- Dave Chappelle, Arsenio Hall, Freddie Prinze

Prince -- Ready for the World, Georgio, Micki Free

James Brown -- Everybody Else

Michael Caine -- Everybody Else

William Shatner -- Burt Ward

Madonna, Janet -- Everybody Else

The Jacksons -- the Osmonds, the DeFranco Family, New Edition, New Kids on the Block, O-Town

DesireeNevermind said:

I don't think Johnny Gill fucked Eddie Murphy nor do I think Eddie Murphy fucked Johnny Gill. I do believe that they both may have fucked the same tranny. It aint no fun if the homies can't have none.

Both them nuccas is on the homely side of the mirror. Just sayin'

Reel said:

I remember Arsenio Hall commenting at that mighty buldge in MC Hammers speedos when he initially released that vdeo "Pumps in a Bump"... After Arsenion looked that the video he lieterally was amazed and said "Damn". Then he tried to back peddle from that statement.

I know EXACTLY the episode you're referring to. And now I'm still trying to find it on YT. It's true, Arsenio let his guard down a little too quickly there.

Reel said:

I remember Arsenio Hall commenting at that mighty buldge in MC Hammers speedos when he initially released that vdeo "Pumps in a Bump"... After Arsenion looked that the video he lieterally was amazed and said "Damn". Then he tried to back peddle from that statement.

U mofo's don't 4 get NOTHING.

PDogz said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Poor Arsenio. Now you talk about somebody being trapped in the closet. I get the feeling he is somebody who would have liked to come out but at the time of his heyday there were too many people holding him back. Now nobody cares about him or his sexuality so essentially....he still arranging hangers.

I think Arsenio's desire to keep his sexuality private had something to do with him essentially disappearing from the limelight. Although these days, he seems to just be letting it fly, lol.

I always heard that Arsenio had a relationship with Paula Abdul and last I heard he and the actress Emma Samms (Gerneral Hospital) had a thing going on.

daingermouz2020 said:

PDogz said:

I think Arsenio's desire to keep his sexuality private had something to do with him essentially disappearing from the limelight. Although these days, he seems to just be letting it fly, lol.

I always heard that Arsenio had a relationship with Paula Abdul and last I heard he and the actress Emma Samms (Gerneral Hospital) had a thing going on.

I believe those types of rumors are intentionally planted, and serve a specific purpose. Hollywood has been promoting those types of unions since before the days of Rock Hudson & Doris Day, or Johnny Mathis & Karen Valentine.

PDogz said:

daingermouz2020 said:

I always heard that Arsenio had a relationship with Paula Abdul and last I heard he and the actress Emma Samms (Gerneral Hospital) had a thing going on.

I believe those types of rumors are intentionally planted, and serve a specific purpose. Hollywood has been promoting those types of unions since before the days of Rock Hudson & Doris Day, or Johnny Mathis & Karen Valentine.

100% correct.

I think Arsenio Hall was one of the greatest talk host show ever. He gave us a break from the old foogies like Johnny, Jay and Merv. But Gay is Gay.....and dude was flaming, I don't care how many women he pounced on, he was also swallowing N_ts. Jay Leno seems to be trying to Jump Start his Career. Maybe he could take Conan Obriens spot. I really liked him, gay or not. But he was a pillow biter for sure. I watched that show every night. I digged him.

Reel said:

I think Arsenio Hall was one of the greatest talk host show ever. He gave us a break from the old foogies like Johnny, Jay and Merv.

Agreed.

Reel said:

I think Arsenio Hall was one of the greatest talk host show ever. He gave us a break from the old foogies like Johnny, Jay and Merv. But Gay is Gay.....and dude was flaming, I don't care how many women he pounced on, he was also swallowing N_ts. Jay Leno seems to be trying to Jump Start his Career. Maybe he could take Conan Obriens spot. I really liked him, gay or not. But he was a pillow biter for sure. I watched that show every night. I digged him.

You "digged" him? I mostly feel what you're saying, but the italicized bolded parts in red really cheapened your comment.

PDogz said:

Reel said:

I think Arsenio Hall was one of the greatest talk host show ever. He gave us a break from the old foogies like Johnny, Jay and Merv. But Gay is Gay.....and dude was flaming, I don't care how many women he pounced on, he was also swallowing N_ts. Jay Leno seems to be trying to Jump Start his Career. Maybe he could take Conan Obriens spot. I really liked him, gay or not. But he was a pillow biter for sure. I watched that show every night. I digged him.

You "digged" him? I mostly feel what you're saying, but the italicized bolded parts in red really cheapened your comment.

PDogz said:

Reel said:

I think Arsenio Hall was one of the greatest talk host show ever. He gave us a break from the old foogies like Johnny, Jay and Merv. But Gay is Gay.....and dude was flaming, I don't care how many women he pounced on, he was also swallowing N_ts. Jay Leno seems to be trying to Jump Start his Career. Maybe he could take Conan Obriens spot. I really liked him, gay or not. But he was a pillow biter for sure. I watched that show every night. I digged him.

You "digged" him? I mostly feel what you're saying, but the italicized bolded parts in red really cheapened your comment.

U killing me.

PDogz said:

Reel said:

I think Arsenio Hall was one of the greatest talk host show ever. He gave us a break from the old foogies like Johnny, Jay and Merv. But Gay is Gay.....and dude was flaming, I don't care how many women he pounced on, he was also swallowing N_ts. Jay Leno seems to be trying to Jump Start his Career. Maybe he could take Conan Obriens spot. I really liked him, gay or not. But he was a pillow biter for sure. I watched that show every night. I digged him.

You "digged" him? I mostly feel what you're saying, but the italicized bolded parts in red really cheapened your comment.

Oh well sorry if I offended you....but that's just my opinion. Is it not possible for someone to have multiple opinions and they all have equal merit?

Reel said:

PDogz said:

You "digged" him? I mostly feel what you're saying, but the italicized bolded parts in red really cheapened your comment.

Oh well sorry if I offended you....but that's just my opinion. Is it not possible for someone to have multiple opinions and they all have equal merit?

While I appreciate your apology, I was not personally offended. Of course it's possible to have multiple opinions with equal merit. I completely support your right to have as many opinions as you'd like. I only meant to point out that your unfortunate choice of language cheapened the overall message you were trying to convey. My point was not in regards to your opinion, rather the words you chose to express them.

Swallowing nuts and pillow biting? damn you learn something new everyday. Adding to my list of catch phrases and pop culture terminology.

Maybe Arsenio was a top? Why do people always assume gay is being on the bottom? Now that's foul like rotten egg with cheese nips.

Reel said:

PDogz said:

You "digged" him? I mostly feel what you're saying, but the italicized bolded parts in red really cheapened your comment.

Oh well sorry if I offended you....but that's just my opinion. Is it not possible for someone to have multiple opinions and they all have equal merit?

You say he was gay for sure and now it's just opinion? Which is it? Did you see him fuck some guy?

I will never in a million years understand how Prince fans can make speculation about anyone being gay.

There is nothing wrong with being gay but when people use it like it's a slur, it's fucked up. Grow the fuck up. Think about how you would feel if there was a nasty internet rumor floating around about you.

Vendetta1 said:

Reel said:

Oh well sorry if I offended you....but that's just my opinion. Is it not possible for someone to have multiple opinions and they all have equal merit?

You say he was gay for sure and now it's just opinion? Which is it? Did you see him fuck some guy?

I will never in a million years understand how Prince fans can make speculation about anyone being gay.

There is nothing wrong with being gay but when people use it like it's a slur, it's fucked up. Grow the fuck up. Think about how you would feel if there was a nasty internet rumor floating around about you.

That's the core of what I was getting at. I thought the opinion was adequately expressed with "dude was flaming", though felt the part about swallowing nuts and biting pillows was just excessive & demeaning - and Arsenio has never seemed like the kind of guy to me that warranted that type of characterization.

We sure did stop talking about Johnny Gill.

PDogz said:

Vendetta1 said:

You say he was gay for sure and now it's just opinion? Which is it? Did you see him fuck some guy?

I will never in a million years understand how Prince fans can make speculation about anyone being gay.

There is nothing wrong with being gay but when people use it like it's a slur, it's fucked up. Grow the fuck up. Think about how you would feel if there was a nasty internet rumor floating around about you.

That's the core of what I was getting at. I thought the opinion was adequately expressed with "dude was flaming", though felt the part about swallowing nuts and biting pillows was just excessive & demeaning - and Arsenio has never seemed like the kind of guy to me that warranted that type of characterization.

It was excessive and demeaning. It is a stereotype that does not apply to the majority of gay men. If Prince's feminine acting ass is straight, so can Johnny Gill be.

Vendetta1 said:

PDogz said:

That's the core of what I was getting at. I thought the opinion was adequately expressed with "dude was flaming", though felt the part about swallowing nuts and biting pillows was just excessive & demeaning - and Arsenio has never seemed like the kind of guy to me that warranted that type of characterization.

It was excessive and demeaning. It is a stereotype that does not apply to the majority of gay men. If Prince's feminine acting ass is straight, so can Johnny Gill be.

I very strongly agree. I have always contended that the feminine acting "Queens" that you can recognize as being gay from a distance, represent the smallest percentage of men that have same-sex interests.

Vendetta1 said:

Reel said:

Oh well sorry if I offended you....but that's just my opinion. Is it not possible for someone to have multiple opinions and they all have equal merit?

You say he was gay for sure and now it's just opinion? Which is it? Did you see him fuck some guy?

I will never in a million years understand how Prince fans can make speculation about anyone being gay.

There is nothing wrong with being gay but when people use it like it's a slur, it's fucked up. Grow the fuck up. Think about how you would feel if there was a nasty internet rumor floating around about you.

Sweetie, you should grow up, because it's a fact, and anyone in the business will tell you just that. Well, I'm not sure about the pillow biting, but Arsenio is definately a brother from the other persuasion. Anyway, this is supposed to be about Johnny Gill.

The bottom line is that Arsenio Hall is gay, or bisexual, or sleeps with men and women. No need to get all offended and bent out of shape. Heck everyone with any ounce of perception can see this. Now back to the subject matter at hand. Johnny Gill. If you have a sugar tooth, look elsewhere, because I'm sugar free babies!