Lammastide said:

jeami said:

Good point!

I guess that Luther was more famous than Johnny. His non-black audience was slightly bigger. Luther was also able to keep his secret better than Johnny. Ever since Luther's death, none of his lovers have written a tell-all book, so Luther was smarth enough to choose people that would keep their mouths shut. If Johnny wants to keep his sexuality a secret, he needs to stay away from tranny lovers.

I suspect it's somewhat the opposite of what you're suggesting.

Everyone assumed Luther was gay -- and he was neither hostile to the suggestions nor resorted to "uber straight guy" tactics to prove anything otherwise. As a result, there was comparatively less titilation in rumors about him, and there would be no real bite to anyone close outing him.

Johnny, on the other hand, gets all indignant at the accusations (just as, say, any cornered diva might ) and starts suggesting a slew of (uncorroborated) female conquests while being perfectly dolled up, never quite with any of these woman... and repeatedly implicated with other equally questionable brothers. Whether he's actually gay or not, he creates the perfect target.

Totally agree.

There was speculation about Johnny's sexuality dating back to his days with New Edition. I think Johnny is one of the most under-rated male vocalists out there. Johnny can sing his tush off, and he has unbelievable tonality and vocal control. I miss his singing. I love his verse in New Edition's "I'm coming home". I fell in love with Johnny when he first stepped on the scenes with Stacy Latisaw singing "Blockparty".

After the speculation about Johnny and Eddie Murphy, he goes onto the radio and starts saying...."I'm not gay....I have plenty of women. I have more women than you can imagine blah blah". As if that is some sort of a fool proof way to absolutely tell that you are not gay. Next thing you know shortly thereafter he ends up "knocking up" some chick. I believe the man doesth protest a lil too much.

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qvgangsta18 said:

scriptgirl said:

My oldest cousin Reena said people have been saying that forever, but I only remember hearing it in conjunction with Eddie Murphy divorcing his wife.

Suge Knight started it, saying him and Sugar Ray leonard was doing something

Sugar Ray Leonard too? Oh Lawd. Suge Knight is always talking that crap. To Suge everyone is gay, he even put that out there about Dr. Dre. Mr. Knight might be projecting.

TonyVanDam said:

Damn @ that video. Johnny got me shaking in my boots now. LOL That was kinda funny. But hey, I believe that Johnny is a Preacher's Kid so I guess he is very very concerned about any rumors.

Graycap23 said:

scriptgirl said:

My oldest cousin Reena said people have been saying that forever, but I only remember hearing it in conjunction with Eddie Murphy divorcing his wife.

Johnny Gill, Arsenio Hall, Magic Johnson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Eddie Murphy and Johnny (receiver 4 the Detriot Lions) started hanging out. Let's just say it was a club.........

See this is the first that I'm hearing about Sugar Ray Leonard. The rest of those guys were always under speculation. There were quiet whispers about Magic Johnson being bisexual at the time that he announced that he was HIV positive. Heck even before the HIV announcement. I know men who used to freak out when he would kiss Isiah Thomas during some games. (I still never found out what exactly that was about). Oh well.

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Reel said:

Graycap23 said:

Johnny Gill, Arsenio Hall, Magic Johnson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Eddie Murphy and Johnny (receiver 4 the Detriot Lions) started hanging out. Let's just say it was a club.........

See this is the first that I'm hearing about Sugar Ray Leonard. The rest of those guys were always under speculation. There were quiet whispers about Magic Johnson being bisexual at the time that he announced that he was HIV positive. Heck even before the HIV announcement. I know men who used to freak out when he would kiss Isiah Thomas during some games. (I still never found out what exactly that was about). Oh well.

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I wouldn't be concerned about Isaiah or Magic in regards to their sexuality. I used to date

a girl 10 years my senior who went to school with Isaiah at IU. She said Isaiah was the

biggest whore on campus and it wasn't unusual to see him with a different girl on campus

every week.

EBT showed a play with Johnny and Robin Givens called "A Mother's Prayer" or something like that. It looked very low budget. Johnny looked to be on the heavy side and he seemed old. Of course that could have been the role he was playing (a preacher and father of a grown son). Robin is older isn't she? I think she looks younger than Johnny Gill. If Johnny were gay he probably would have come out by now.

I saw Robin on Hollywood Blvd a few years back-old girl is STUNNING in person and didn't look a day over 25.

DesireeNevermind said:

If Johnny were gay he probably would have come out by now.

Oh no he won't!

Johnny is Black AND he's a preacher's kid. The black community is homophobic. The homophobia in the Black religious community is even more intense. If JG doesn't want to be excluded from his community, he'll take his secret to the grave. The entertainment community is also homophobic as well. There aren't that many celebs that are out of the closet because it hurts their careers. Queen Latifah and Kevin Spacey are two examples of this kind of behavior.

scriptgirl said:

I saw Robin on Hollywood Blvd a few years back-old girl is STUNNING in person and didn't look a day over 25.

She is stunning and I can't stand her, but beautiful she is.

jeami said:

DesireeNevermind said:

If Johnny were gay he probably would have come out by now.

Oh no he won't!

Johnny is Black AND he's a preacher's kid. The black community is homophobic. The homophobia in the Black religious community is even more intense. If JG doesn't want to be excluded from his community, he'll take his secret to the grave. The entertainment community is also homophobic as well. There aren't that many celebs that are out of the closet because it hurts their careers. Queen Latifah and Kevin Spacey are two examples of this kind of behavior.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Neither the church, nor the black community as a whole, is not very accepting of homosexuality. (I hate that term homophobia- because phobia means fear, and just because you are not accepting of something, does not mean that you actually fear it). Johnny Gill is not coming out anytime soon. And neither is Eddie Murphy (I always felt that Eddie Murphy was bisexual, dating back to that incident where he picked up a transvestite). Since Eddie and Johnny have been conected, those rumors were fueled even further for both.

In any event, I always knew about Queen Latifah, but I really believe that she is on the cusp of coming out. Now I had absolutely no idea about Kevin Spacey until this year. I was like "you mean to tell me that Kaiser Sosay is gay"? Perhaps Kevin Spacey is not coming out because maybe he feels that it may potentially limit his acting / role opportunities. He's a very convincing actor though.

Reel said:

jeami said:

Oh no he won't!

Johnny is Black AND he's a preacher's kid. The black community is homophobic. The homophobia in the Black religious community is even more intense. If JG doesn't want to be excluded from his community, he'll take his secret to the grave. The entertainment community is also homophobic as well. There aren't that many celebs that are out of the closet because it hurts their careers. Queen Latifah and Kevin Spacey are two examples of this kind of behavior.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Neither the church, nor the black community as a whole, is not very accepting of homosexuality. (I hate that term homophobia- because phobia means fear, and just because you are not accepting of something, does not mean that you actually fear it). Johnny Gill is not coming out anytime soon. And neither is Eddie Murphy (I always felt that Eddie Murphy was bisexual, dating back to that incident where he picked up a transvestite). Since Eddie and Johnny have been conected, those rumors were fueled even further for both.

In any event, I always knew about Queen Latifah, but I really believe that she is on the cusp of coming out. Now I had absolutely no idea about Kevin Spacey until this year. I was like "you mean to tell me that Kaiser Sosay is gay"? Perhaps Kevin Spacey is not coming out because maybe he feels that it may potentially limit his acting / role opportunities. He's a very convincing actor though.

I always knew Kevin Spacey was gay. That rumor been floating around too long and he's been seen with rentaboy type dudes for a long time.

But uh....can' y'all stop painting the entire black community as being anti-gay and/or very religious? That sounds rather stupid. Black Americans are diverse in terms of culture, politics, religious idealogy and so forth. Really the only time there is a "black community" is when we collectively fight against racism/discrimination and social injustice abroad. Given that black homosexuals are still apart of this "black community" and that many are religious and affiliated with a church, it is also rather insulting to them to suggest they are not a part of their own people and community if you want to call it that. Some black people are atheist, some black people are not. Some black people are anti-gay and some are not. Some black people don't give a flying fart about any of this social stuff.

I don't know if Johnny is gay. All I've ever heard of is talk and there's been no proof, not even a random tranny trolling episode. Preacher's kid or not,,,I think if he were gay he would have come out by now because there would be too many people who would know he was gay. Lots of church people talk and gossip just like anybody else. Somebody would have at least outed him. Hell, if they can try and call Obama gay then I'm sure someone would have called out Johnny.

DesireeNevermind said:

Reel said:

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Neither the church, nor the black community as a whole, is not very accepting of homosexuality. (I hate that term homophobia- because phobia means fear, and just because you are not accepting of something, does not mean that you actually fear it). Johnny Gill is not coming out anytime soon. And neither is Eddie Murphy (I always felt that Eddie Murphy was bisexual, dating back to that incident where he picked up a transvestite). Since Eddie and Johnny have been conected, those rumors were fueled even further for both.

In any event, I always knew about Queen Latifah, but I really believe that she is on the cusp of coming out. Now I had absolutely no idea about Kevin Spacey until this year. I was like "you mean to tell me that Kaiser Sosay is gay"? Perhaps Kevin Spacey is not coming out because maybe he feels that it may potentially limit his acting / role opportunities. He's a very convincing actor though.

I always knew Kevin Spacey was gay. That rumor been floating around too long and he's been seen with rentaboy type dudes for a long time.

But uh....can' y'all stop painting the entire black community as being anti-gay and/or very religious? That sounds rather stupid. Black Americans are diverse in terms of culture, politics, religious idealogy and so forth. Really the only time there is a "black community" is when we collectively fight against racism/discrimination and social injustice abroad. Given that black homosexuals are still apart of this "black community" and that many are religious and affiliated with a church, it is also rather insulting to them to suggest they are not a part of their own people and community if you want to call it that. Some black people are atheist, some black people are not. Some black people are anti-gay and some are not. Some black people don't give a flying fart about any of this social stuff.

I don't know if Johnny is gay. All I've ever heard of is talk and there's been no proof, not even a random tranny trolling episode. Preacher's kid or not,,,I think if he were gay he would have come out by now because there would be too many people who would know he was gay. Lots of church people talk and gossip just like anybody else. Somebody would have at least outed him. Hell, if they can try and call Obama gay then I'm sure someone would have called out Johnny.

The black community is indeed a very diverse community, however....in general...the black community is not very accepting of it. We are indeed still a very intact community. We have culture, music, art, a way of worship, spirituality, food, and many other thing in common as a group. We have magazines, television shows, television networks etc. We have Jargon, lingo, cadence, slang in common and thats only to name a few things. It's not only that we come together to fight racism we are in fact a real legitamate community. Just like Asians, Latinos and Jews are a real community eventhough they may also have "outliers". That does not take away from their diversity as a community either.

Now, with that being said, there are blacks who are atheist, and who think differently than the "group". There are blacks who are open-minded about homosexuality. There are blacks who are homosexual. As far as the church is concerned, you have not only people in the church who are gay, but preachers as well, and yet they themselves continue to condem homosexualty. You have people well embedded in the church such as Donnie McKlurkin and other prominent musicians who admit to having relations with other men, but also speak very much against it. Heck, it's even worst when you consider how it is viewed in various Carribbean and African countries. In fact Africans (I believe in Uganda) are trying to literally put homosexuals to death! And they are threatening family members that if they know that their children are gay, and don't report it - then they themselves will be incarcerated.

So I no doubt believe that Johnny is likely gay, but has fear just like many other black folks about coming out. Heck...when was the last time that ANY black celebrity "Came Out"? Nobody comes to my recollection except for that 1 ex- NBA player.

Late 80's/ early 90's

phunkdaddy said:

Reel said:

See this is the first that I'm hearing about Sugar Ray Leonard. The rest of those guys were always under speculation. There were quiet whispers about Magic Johnson being bisexual at the time that he announced that he was HIV positive. Heck even before the HIV announcement. I know men who used to freak out when he would kiss Isiah Thomas during some games. (I still never found out what exactly that was about). Oh well.

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I wouldn't be concerned about Isaiah or Magic in regards to their sexuality. I used to date

a girl 10 years my senior who went to school with Isaiah at IU. She said Isaiah was the

biggest whore on campus and it wasn't unusual to see him with a different girl on campus

every week.

A man with a different girl everytime you see them is a sure fire way to spot out a bisexual. Every trade I've ever slept with has had much more women than the average straight man has had. Their sex drive is higher than the average straight man. They just can't get enough. They have to have it and on the rare occassions that they can't get a woman that night, a man will satisfy their needs. A mouth feels the same whether it comes from a woman or a man. "A nut is a nut" is the way they see it.

As for Magic, Jermaine Stewart told "Sister 2 Sister" magazine that he had slept with Magic.

I started hearing the "Johnny/underground club" stories around 93/94. Supposedly according to Mel (Scary Spice), Eddie has a bungalow-house built in his backyard that Johnny stays at.

..but remember, this is a man that "keeps a stable of women". When I see the repeats of New Edition-Behind The Music and I watch the interview clips w/ Johnny, his mannersisms are so....

..as Wendy would say; "how you doin'?"

And Kevin Spacey is one of my favorite actors but I've heard he's gay too. If he is, he's still a

great actor.

vainandy said:

phunkdaddy said:

I wouldn't be concerned about Isaiah or Magic in regards to their sexuality. I used to date

a girl 10 years my senior who went to school with Isaiah at IU. She said Isaiah was the

biggest whore on campus and it wasn't unusual to see him with a different girl on campus

every week.

A man with a different girl everytime you see them is a sure fire way to spot out a bisexual. Every trade I've ever slept with has had much more women than the average straight man has had. Their sex drive is higher than the average straight man. They just can't get enough. They have to have it and on the rare occassions that they can't get a woman that night, a man will satisfy their needs. A mouth feels the same whether it comes from a woman or a man. "A nut is a nut" is the way they see it.

As for Magic, Jermaine Stewart told "Sister 2 Sister" magazine that he had slept with Magic.

I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't want to sound sarcastic...so I left it alone. Sometimes men struggling with their sexuality will in fact sleep with more and more woman, as it somehow keeps them in denial about their sexuality. They feel that if they can sleep with women, it does not mean that they really like men.

Jermaine Stewart who passed away from Aids told Sister 2 Sister that? Hummmm...I never heard or read about it. You are talking about the Jermaine Stewart who sang "We don't have to take our clothes off".

I just recently read that Majic made a statement that he was disappointed in Isiah Thomas because he actually asked him if he had AIDs from sleeping with men.

Heck, I'll just be brave and put this out there...maybe even a little bit stereotypical too. But Gay people in general are just so very talented. Man when you look at broadway, the clothing industry, the food industry, the music industry, the damned interior decorating industry, and even the construction industry now a days- there is a very high concentration of gay people. And they produce unbelievable quality in all of the aforementioned areas. I'm not even sure what the dynamics of that is about.

Now, I hope that didn't sound too sterotypical, I don't want that to sound like "all black people can dance and sing" But I'm just saying that in general, gay people seem to be very talented. And there are more gay entertainers than we could even imagine.

Reel said:

vainandy said:

A man with a different girl everytime you see them is a sure fire way to spot out a bisexual. Every trade I've ever slept with has had much more women than the average straight man has had. Their sex drive is higher than the average straight man. They just can't get enough. They have to have it and on the rare occassions that they can't get a woman that night, a man will satisfy their needs. A mouth feels the same whether it comes from a woman or a man. "A nut is a nut" is the way they see it.

As for Magic, Jermaine Stewart told "Sister 2 Sister" magazine that he had slept with Magic.

I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't want to sound sarcastic...so I left it alone. Sometimes men struggling with their sexuality will in fact sleep with more and more woman, as it somehow keeps them in denial about their sexuality. They feel that if they can sleep with women, it does not mean that they really like men.

Jermaine Stewart who passed away from Aids told Sister 2 Sister that? Hummmm...I never heard or read about it. You are talking about the Jermaine Stewart who sang "We don't have to take our clothes off".

I just recently read that Majic made a statement that he was disappointed in Isiah Thomas because he actually asked him if he had AIDs from sleeping with men.

From what I've seen, they actually do have a sexual attraction to women but they don't care who gives them an orgasm as long as they get one. I've seen them leave straight clubs which closed at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning, not get lucky with a woman that night, and leave and drive in circles around the gay clubs which close when the crowd dies down or when the sun comes up, whichever comes first. Of course, they usually go after the damn dragon queens as their second choice if they can't get a woman that night before they will get with a normal gay man as a last resort. That lets me know they are actually attracted to women because no sane gay man I know that likes dick would go after a dick in a dress unless he was mentally sick pervert. Well hell, trade ain't nothing but perverts anyway.

As for Jermaine Stewart, yeah, he's the one that sang "We Don't Have To Take Our Clothes Off" and "The Word Is Out". I didn't read the article in the magazine myself but one of the reporters was on the "Geraldo" show back in the 1990s talking about the article.

Graycap23 said:

scriptgirl said:

My oldest cousin Reena said people have been saying that forever, but I only remember hearing it in conjunction with Eddie Murphy divorcing his wife.

Johnny Gill, Arsenio Hall, Magic Johnson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Eddie Murphy and Johnny (receiver 4 the Detriot Lions) started hanging out. Let's just say it was a club.........

I used to wonder about Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall back in the day. They were awfully close. Besides there is this black elite club called the Boule. Once a year, they would go to Atlanta and have gay orgies. You can look that up on YouTube.

I am no expert on the topic, but here are my two cents.

Homosexuality is as old as time. It's been here forever and it will always be here.

Supposedly 10% of the population is gay. If that is true, then 10% of four billion people are a hell of a lot of people. Why should we care who sleeps with whom if they are consenting adults?

In the entertainment industry, there are many people who are gay, but even more so that are closeted because of the social and more importantly, the economic stigma.

Sean Hayes, who is a brilliant actor, has to always defend his hard-won talent and ability, his craft and his art by addressing speculation about his sexuality. It's a shame, really.

Would our appreciation of Michael Jackson's work, or Prince's be any less if we found out they were gay or bisexual? Careless Whisper is a great song, no matter WHO George is singing it about.

Johnny Gill may or may not be gay, but in the end, he's a great singer. Everything else is just high-school gossip.

Reel said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I always knew Kevin Spacey was gay. That rumor been floating around too long and he's been seen with rentaboy type dudes for a long time.

But uh....can' y'all stop painting the entire black community as being anti-gay and/or very religious? That sounds rather stupid. Black Americans are diverse in terms of culture, politics, religious idealogy and so forth. Really the only time there is a "black community" is when we collectively fight against racism/discrimination and social injustice abroad. Given that black homosexuals are still apart of this "black community" and that many are religious and affiliated with a church, it is also rather insulting to them to suggest they are not a part of their own people and community if you want to call it that. Some black people are atheist, some black people are not. Some black people are anti-gay and some are not. Some black people don't give a flying fart about any of this social stuff.

I don't know if Johnny is gay. All I've ever heard of is talk and there's been no proof, not even a random tranny trolling episode. Preacher's kid or not,,,I think if he were gay he would have come out by now because there would be too many people who would know he was gay. Lots of church people talk and gossip just like anybody else. Somebody would have at least outed him. Hell, if they can try and call Obama gay then I'm sure someone would have called out Johnny.

The black community is indeed a very diverse community, however....in general...the black community is not very accepting of it. We are indeed still a very intact community. We have culture, music, art, a way of worship, spirituality, food, and many other thing in common as a group. We have magazines, television shows, television networks etc. We have Jargon, lingo, cadence, slang in common and thats only to name a few things. It's not only that we come together to fight racism we are in fact a real legitamate community. Just like Asians, Latinos and Jews are a real community eventhough they may also have "outliers". That does not take away from their diversity as a community either.

Now, with that being said, there are blacks who are atheist, and who think differently than the "group". There are blacks who are open-minded about homosexuality. There are blacks who are homosexual. As far as the church is concerned, you have not only people in the church who are gay, but preachers as well, and yet they themselves continue to condem homosexualty. You have people well embedded in the church such as Donnie McKlurkin and other prominent musicians who admit to having relations with other men, but also speak very much against it. Heck, it's even worst when you consider how it is viewed in various Carribbean and African countries. In fact Africans (I believe in Uganda) are trying to literally put homosexuals to death! And they are threatening family members that if they know that their children are gay, and don't report it - then they themselves will be incarcerated.

So I no doubt believe that Johnny is likely gay, but has fear just like many other black folks about coming out. Heck...when was the last time that ANY black celebrity "Came Out"? Nobody comes to my recollection except for that 1 ex- NBA player.

I'm objecting to the generalization that all black people are overly religious and that's the reason that ALL black folk are anti-gay. You simply cannot make a statement like that because it is false and ignorant and also no different from the white religious right who think that the black community is filled with uneducated, drug addicted welfare receipients. What's wrong with being truthful and just saying some black people feel this way or that way? That's the problem I have with the term "community" and how it's often used to paint an entire group of people with a broad brush. I think it was either Rush or GLen who once said that if you killed all the black babies there would be a significant reduction in crime in the US. Really? So now we're all responsible for the bulk of crimes committed? You see what I'm getting at? Sometimes generalizations are wholly inappropriate and this is one of those times.

If we want to be factual....there are countries all over the world with anti-gay legislation and who are disapproving of homosexuality. Check out the list here of what countries/continents are accepting and represent that acceptance through their laws. Not too many of them: http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._territory

I merely point this out because the sweeping generalization that Black Americans or Africans are the leaders if not the only ones who are disapproving of the homosexual lifestyle is getting old and tiresome. Black people are just as progressive and open minded as the next race of people be that good or bad. When it comes to certain issues...people are the same all over.

There are only two logical reasons why Johnny Gill hasn't come out of the closet:

1) He aint gay and was never in the closet

2) He's already out but doesn't feel the need to broadcast it for anyone else's benefit.

jeami said:

missfee said:

What I can't understand is why are there even rumors at all of Johnny Gill being gay when nobody would say a thing about Luther Vandross.....

Good point!

I guess that Luther was more famous than Johnny. His non-black audience was slightly bigger. Luther was also able to keep his secret better than Johnny. Ever since Luther's death, none of his lovers have written a tell-all book, so Luther was smarth enough to choose people that would keep their mouths shut. If Johnny wants to keep his sexuality a secret, he needs to stay away from tranny lovers.

Dont nobody betta say NOTHING bout no Lutha. Lutha was a FINE MAN FIIINE MAN!

But don't leave em wicha boyfriend

Mhmm...God rest his soul

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paisleypark4 said:

jeami said:

Good point!

I guess that Luther was more famous than Johnny. His non-black audience was slightly bigger. Luther was also able to keep his secret better than Johnny. Ever since Luther's death, none of his lovers have written a tell-all book, so Luther was smarth enough to choose people that would keep their mouths shut. If Johnny wants to keep his sexuality a secret, he needs to stay away from tranny lovers.

Dont nobody betta say NOTHING bout no Lutha. Lutha was a FINE MAN FIIINE MAN!

But don't leave em wicha boyfriend

Mhmm...God rest his soul

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Wait...I thought Luther had a boyfriend in his last days. Poor thing. I hope he died happy and not depressed or lonely.

vainandy said:

Reel said:

I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't want to sound sarcastic...so I left it alone. Sometimes men struggling with their sexuality will in fact sleep with more and more woman, as it somehow keeps them in denial about their sexuality. They feel that if they can sleep with women, it does not mean that they really like men.

Jermaine Stewart who passed away from Aids told Sister 2 Sister that? Hummmm...I never heard or read about it. You are talking about the Jermaine Stewart who sang "We don't have to take our clothes off".

I just recently read that Majic made a statement that he was disappointed in Isiah Thomas because he actually asked him if he had AIDs from sleeping with men.

From what I've seen, they actually do have a sexual attraction to women but they don't care who gives them an orgasm as long as they get one. I've seen them leave straight clubs which closed at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning, not get lucky with a woman that night, and leave and drive in circles around the gay clubs which close when the crowd dies down or when the sun comes up, whichever comes first. Of course, they usually go after the damn dragon queens as their second choice if they can't get a woman that night before they will get with a normal gay man as a last resort. That lets me know they are actually attracted to women because no sane gay man I know that likes dick would go after a dick in a dress unless he was mentally sick pervert. Well hell, trade ain't nothing but perverts anyway.

As for Jermaine Stewart, yeah, he's the one that sang "We Don't Have To Take Our Clothes Off" and "The Word Is Out". I didn't read the article in the magazine myself but one of the reporters was on the "Geraldo" show back in the 1990s talking about the article.

You ARE correct. I know of three men that have sex with anything that walks and the one I was closest with finally opened up to me and told me he didnt care what gender it was as long as he can fuck the hell out of them.

Women and men just need to be more open with themselves actually. Hell after three beers I like to grab some tits and have a hot girl sit on my lap too.

SPYZFAN1 said:

I started hearing the "Johnny/underground club" stories around 93/94. Supposedly according to Mel (Scary Spice), Eddie has a bungalow-house built in his backyard that Johnny stays at.

..but remember, this is a man that "keeps a stable of women". When I see the repeats of New Edition-Behind The Music and I watch the interview clips w/ Johnny, his mannersisms are so....

..as Wendy would say; "how you doin'?"

And Kevin Spacey is one of my favorite actors but I've heard he's gay too. If he is, he's still a

great actor.

Ha ha ha! That's so true though.

vainandy said:

phunkdaddy said:

I wouldn't be concerned about Isaiah or Magic in regards to their sexuality. I used to date

a girl 10 years my senior who went to school with Isaiah at IU. She said Isaiah was the

biggest whore on campus and it wasn't unusual to see him with a different girl on campus

every week.

A man with a different girl everytime you see them is a sure fire way to spot out a bisexual. Every trade I've ever slept with has had much more women than the average straight man has had. Their sex drive is higher than the average straight man. They just can't get enough. They have to have it and on the rare occassions that they can't get a woman that night, a man will satisfy their needs. A mouth feels the same whether it comes from a woman or a man. "A nut is a nut" is the way they see it.

As for Magic, Jermaine Stewart told "Sister 2 Sister" magazine that he had slept with Magic.

My apologies. But that way of thinking on the part of your ex-lovers sounds too much like.....

[Edited 6/9/10 4:29am]

angel345 said:

Graycap23 said:

Johnny Gill, Arsenio Hall, Magic Johnson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Eddie Murphy and Johnny (receiver 4 the Detriot Lions) started hanging out. Let's just say it was a club.........

I used to wonder about Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall back in the day. They were awfully close. Besides there is this black elite club called the Boule. Once a year, they would go to Atlanta and have gay orgies. You can look that up on YouTube.

The rumors about The Boule goes decades back. I've heard about it within discussions of Louisiana History. I had no idea The Boule also existed in Georgia History until I've seen that video on YouTube.

TonyVanDam said:

angel345 said:

I used to wonder about Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall back in the day. They were awfully close. Besides there is this black elite club called the Boule. Once a year, they would go to Atlanta and have gay orgies. You can look that up on YouTube.

The rumors about The Boule goes decades back. I've heard about it within discussions of Louisiana History. I had no idea The Boule also existed in Georgia History until I've seen that video on YouTube.

I went to Youtube to look up Boule, and I found no black gay orgie videos, only videos about the black elite, and the hateration that was directed at the black elite. Folks wonder why they have nothing because they hate on folks who do have something. So...if anyone has that link, please post.

Alasseon said:

I am no expert on the topic, but here are my two cents.

Homosexuality is as old as time. It's been here forever and it will always be here.

Supposedly 10% of the population is gay. If that is true, then 10% of four billion people are a hell of a lot of people. Why should we care who sleeps with whom if they are consenting adults?

In the entertainment industry, there are many people who are gay, but even more so that are closeted because of the social and more importantly, the economic stigma.

Sean Hayes, who is a brilliant actor, has to always defend his hard-won talent and ability, his craft and his art by addressing speculation about his sexuality. It's a shame, really.

Would our appreciation of Michael Jackson's work, or Prince's be any less if we found out they were gay or bisexual? Careless Whisper is a great song, no matter WHO George is singing it about.

Johnny Gill may or may not be gay, but in the end, he's a great singer. Everything else is just high-school gossip.

Freddie Mercury & Luthor Vandross were also a great singers. Freddie came out. Luthor NEVER did (assuming if he was gay at all).

And then there is Little Richard. I don't think anyone can put a label on this man anymore.