Curtwill1975 said: ThreadBare said: That's because I don't argue with crazy or any of its related synonyms. If it's any consolation, I don't like Britney Spears' music -- I put them in the same category. Now then, I'll leave you to your storied race-sleuthing, amigo. Is it because you don't like uptempo songs, at least from the today's contemporary artists(not comparing yesteryear's uptempos, I can admit they are better than today's for the most part, so let't not go there)? Because what Britney does and what Beyoncè in regards to that are completely different in terms of genre and sound. Believe it or not. No, I'm not saying their songs are identical. I like uptempo music. That preference is secondary, however, to my preference for what I consider good music. Neither woman, as a rule, produces songs I like. | |
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ThreadBare said: Curtwill1975 said: Is it because you don't like uptempo songs, at least from the today's contemporary artists(not comparing yesteryear's uptempos, I can admit they are better than today's for the most part, so let't not go there)? Because what Britney does and what Beyoncè in regards to that are completely different in terms of genre and sound. Believe it or not. No, I'm not saying their songs are identical. I like uptempo music. That preference is secondary, however, to my preference for what I consider good music. Neither woman, as a rule, produces songs I like. Okay. Understood. I ask because I know people who put what Bey and Britney does in the same lane and your post to the poster with the Stevie Wonder avatar sparked my curiousity in that way. You like what you like. *shrugs* I am not a fan of Sadè, for example, and when I say that, people judge my musical tastes just on that alone. I made this thread, because it seems there is so much venom on this board concerning her sometimes. But disliking an entertainer's music is no big deal. I am sure there are people who think Van Gogh or Rembrandt sucks. That's the beauty of art. You either respond to it or not.... | |
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i wouldn't say she can't sing entirely
but i don't like the plagiarism when she claims to 'write her own songs and for DC' i bought one DC album a few years back and looked in the booklet she doesn't write the songs she co-write them with about 4 or 5 other people watch james L. brooks claim to write all the episodes for the simpsons and watch matt greoning and brad bird sue his ass but when singers do it alot of them seem to get away with it ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Zinzi said: i wouldn't say she can't sing entirely
but i don't like the plagiarism when she claims to 'write her own songs and for DC' i bought one DC album a few years back and looked in the booklet she doesn't write the songs she co-write them with about 4 or 5 other people watch james L. brooks claim to write all the episodes for the simpsons and watch matt greoning and brad bird sue his ass but when singers do it alot of them seem to get away with it Well, co-writing is still co-writing.And in songwriting, there are different entities to it. It's not just lyric-writing. She has said numerous times that she is a co-writer. Even in this thread...it's posted(I think the 7th page) what she does in the studio whether it is writing songs with other co-writers from scratch or getting full songs from them and then arranging them in the way she wants it to sound that fits her. And no to mention...if Beyoncè wasn't giving credit, then it would be HER name and her name alone in the linear credits. People have to keep that in mind. | |
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SoulAlive said: This will come as a shock to you,but guess what? There are many black people who do not like Beyonce or her music.
Thank you, and I'm one of them. I'm a proud black man who's NEVER bought a Beyonce CD and never will. She sucks. Supporting 'artists' because they're the same color as you(regardless of talent) is ridiculous. | |
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Curtwill1975 said: I wonder how much love Aretha or Diana would have in the 60s and 70s if the Internet was in existance. But I don't see the same venom for Alicia Keys that Isee for Beyoncè and she is just as much on top as Beyoncè if not more so(12 Grammys and millions of records sold.)
Re-hee-hee-hee-eally? http://prince.org/msg/8/335779 Honey, stop talking and just create the music. | |
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Curtwill1975 said: Zinzi said: i wouldn't say she can't sing entirely
but i don't like the plagiarism when she claims to 'write her own songs and for DC' i bought one DC album a few years back and looked in the booklet she doesn't write the songs she co-write them with about 4 or 5 other people watch james L. brooks claim to write all the episodes for the simpsons and watch matt greoning and brad bird sue his ass but when singers do it alot of them seem to get away with it Well, co-writing is still co-writing.And in songwriting, there are different entities to it. It's not just lyric-writing. She has said numerous times that she is a co-writer. Even in this thread...it's posted(I think the 7th page) what she does in the studio whether it is writing songs with other co-writers from scratch or getting full songs from them and then arranging them in the way she wants it to sound that fits her. And no to mention...if Beyoncè wasn't giving credit, then it would be HER name and her name alone in the linear credits. People have to keep that in mind. well no, the people who make the album hardware and legality is why they are included in the credits, if she was to say ''im not including you in the credits'' they'd probably not work with her again. ''co- writing is still co-writing'' what does that mean? i didn't say co- writing wasn't co-writing i said co-writing isn't SOLELY writing the song she may say she is a co-writer but she still takes credit when credit is given to her as the SOLE song writer which is plagiarism and since there is alot of downloading people don't usually get the booklets anymore ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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WAIT...did you just put 'genius' and 'beyonce' in the same paragraph? | |
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Layzie said: Curtwill1975 said: Even if you don't like her music, there are millions who do and think she is a genius at what she does.
Genius at what? Coochie popping? Stealing song credits? Shaking a lace-front? so true!! | |
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ENOUGH!!!
Beyonce is our queen! She is to be worshipped and adored! She and Hova shall consumate their hellish union and produce our Dark Lord! SO IT IS WRITTEN SHALL IT BE DONE When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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HonestMan13 said: ENOUGH!!!
Beyonce is our queen! She is to be worshipped and adored! She and Hova shall consumate their hellish union and produce our Dark Lord! SO IT IS WRITTEN SHALL IT BE DONE | |
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I do not hate her. But I do dislike her skanky ass greatly.
When she shredded At Last, that was it for me. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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The invasion of the Beysus worshippers. Its inevitable really, with a thread title like that. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: SoulAlive said: This will come as a shock to you,but guess what? There are many black people who do not like Beyonce or her music.
Thank you, and I'm one of them. I'm a proud black man who's NEVER bought a Beyonce CD and never will. She sucks. Supporting 'artists' because they're the same color as you(regardless of talent) is ridiculous. AMEN! | |
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SoulAlive said: uPtoWnNY said: Thank you, and I'm one of them. I'm a proud black man who's NEVER bought a Beyonce CD and never will. She sucks. Supporting 'artists' because they're the same color as you(regardless of talent) is ridiculous. AMEN! Its the reason why Medea and her plantation stories still get massive numbers in box office With my very own ears I heard somebody say that "We could do much worse than Beyonce and Tyler, at least they're better than some" yeah, good job losing that money on "not worse than" things. | |
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Why are the majority of Beyonce fans so insecure? | |
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midiscover said: Why are the majority of Beyonce fans so insecure?
MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: midiscover said: Why are the majority of Beyonce fans so insecure?
What? | |
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midiscover said: seeingvoices12 said: What? Oh Nothing MICHAEL JACKSON
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midiscover said: Why are the majority of Beyonce fans so insecure?
Every celebrity has their unreasonable, uber-fan base. No different than the hardcore Elvis, Michael & Mariah fans. | |
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seeingvoices12 said: midiscover said: What? Oh Nothing uPtoWnNY said: midiscover said: Why are the majority of Beyonce fans so insecure?
Every celebrity has their unreasonable, uber-fan base. No different than the hardcore Elvis, Michael & Mariah fans. Right. It was just an observation. For some reason most get REALLY (not even slightly) upset if someone speaks differently of her (This thread) and they also feel like she's a threat to every female artist (http://wigcrypt.blogspot.com/ ) | |
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midiscover said: seeingvoices12 said: Every celebrity has their unreasonable, uber-fan base. No different than the hardcore Elvis, Michael & Mariah fans. Right. It was just an observation. For some reason most get REALLY (not even slightly) upset if someone speaks differently of her (This thread) and they also feel like she's a threat to every female artist (http://wigcrypt.blogspot.com/ ) A threat to every female artist The thread is A Mess. MICHAEL JACKSON
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midiscover said: Why are the majority of Beyonce fans so insecure?
I think they take stanning to a whole different level Where's that "iSnatch, iDrag, iRead. For Beysus" person? [Edited 5/10/10 14:40pm] | |
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MyNameIsPiper said: Curtwill1975 said: I wonder how much love Aretha or Diana would have in the 60s and 70s if the Internet was in existance. But I don't see the same venom for Alicia Keys that Isee for Beyoncè and she is just as much on top as Beyoncè if not more so(12 Grammys and millions of records sold.)
Re-hee-hee-hee-eally? http://prince.org/msg/8/335779 OK, I stand somewhat corrected. | |
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Zinzi said: Curtwill1975 said: Well, co-writing is still co-writing.And in songwriting, there are different entities to it. It's not just lyric-writing. She has said numerous times that she is a co-writer. Even in this thread...it's posted(I think the 7th page) what she does in the studio whether it is writing songs with other co-writers from scratch or getting full songs from them and then arranging them in the way she wants it to sound that fits her. And no to mention...if Beyoncè wasn't giving credit, then it would be HER name and her name alone in the linear credits. People have to keep that in mind. well no, the people who make the album hardware and legality is why they are included in the credits, if she was to say ''im not including you in the credits'' they'd probably not work with her again. ''co- writing is still co-writing'' what does that mean? i didn't say co- writing wasn't co-writing i said co-writing isn't SOLELY writing the song she may say she is a co-writer but she still takes credit when credit is given to her as the SOLE song writer which is plagiarism and since there is alot of downloading people don't usually get the booklets anymore No offense, but do you see what you are saying? If the woman is saying that she is a co-writer then she is not taking full or sole credit. It's the antithesis of what you are saying. In fact, you saying this (she may say she is a co-writer but she still takes credit when credit is given to her as the SOLE song writer which is plagiarism) is the opposite of what you are talking about and whether they download or not, the linear credits are in there. I always look for them. There is never an excuse. Besides this as I said, the very that Beyoncé says that she works with a bunch of writers shows she gives credit. | |
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trueiopian said: midiscover said: Why are the majority of Beyonce fans so insecure?
I think they take stanning to a whole different level Where's that "iSnatch, iDrag, iRead. For Beysus" person? [Edited 5/10/10 14:40pm] They are passionate like every other stan base. There are stans that are worst than the most rabid Beyoncè stan. | |
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Who came up with that awful word "stan(s)"? surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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uPtoWnNY said: SoulAlive said: This will come as a shock to you,but guess what? There are many black people who do not like Beyonce or her music.
Thank you, and I'm one of them. I'm a proud black man who's NEVER bought a Beyonce CD and never will. She sucks. Supporting 'artists' because they're the same color as you(regardless of talent) is ridiculous. Naw, uPtoWnNY... we're going to need proof of blackness. You're talking some of that self-hate nonsense now... | |
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Curtwill1975 said: Zinzi said: well no, the people who make the album hardware and legality is why they are included in the credits, if she was to say ''im not including you in the credits'' they'd probably not work with her again. ''co- writing is still co-writing'' what does that mean? i didn't say co- writing wasn't co-writing i said co-writing isn't SOLELY writing the song she may say she is a co-writer but she still takes credit when credit is given to her as the SOLE song writer which is plagiarism and since there is alot of downloading people don't usually get the booklets anymore No offense, but do you see what you are saying? If the woman is saying that she is a co-writer then she is not taking full or sole credit. It's the antithesis of what you are saying. In fact, you saying this (she may say she is a co-writer but she still takes credit when credit is given to her as the SOLE song writer which is plagiarism) is the opposite of what you are talking about and whether they download or not, the linear credits are in there. I always look for them. There is never an excuse. Besides this as I said, the very that Beyoncé says that she works with a bunch of writers shows she gives credit. beyonce juxtaposes herself alot and that's why she'll say one thing in one interview and say another in another interview let me dumb it down a bit in other words if in one interview she calls her self a co-writer that wouldn't suggest she's mentioning that in another interview i mean for god's sake she yodels all those god-awful gospel songs on how much she loves jesus and then dances around in things that are barely legal to show on daytime TV ..not that i'd have a problem with another woman doing that as long as they weren't claiming to be religious and whatever but i digress,i came on this forum basically to say that one thing i don't really want to talk about a woman i couldn't give a shit about so end of [Edited 5/10/10 15:54pm] ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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